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tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 08:55 AM
click first please:
http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14256207

A moment of silence, please, for the Broncos' zone-blocking scheme.

Can there be a more fitting farewell tribute?

New coaches have been hired to teach a new way of running the ball at Dove Valley. The zone-blocking, one-cut running scheme, a Broncos staple since 1995, will not be back.

"Our running game and some of the things we're going to do next year will definitely change," Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said Saturday night.

Freshly promoted offensive line coach Clancy Barone and newly hired assistant offensive line coach Bob Wylie and running backs coach Eric Studesville have been brought in to help transition the Broncos to more of a power running style.

"The teams that run the zone play, that's predominantly what they do," McDaniels said. "Because if you're going to be good at that, you're going to have to be good at that all the time. We're not doing that. There will be some zone in there, but we're not going to major in it."

During their Super Bowl title seasons in 1997 and 1998, the Broncos became famous for their zone/cut-blocking style and for offensive linemen who refused to speak to the media.

But a funny thing has happened since then — no zone-blocking system has carried a team to the Super Bowl, much less won it, since the 1998 Broncos.

And so Barone, Wylie and Studesville were hired to help alter the Broncos' running game that will feature second-year tailback Knowshon Moreno and possibly include one or two new offensive linemen.

"We're going to run some power, we're going to run some inside zone," McDaniels said. "There's no way to exactly characterize our type of running scheme. It's just not going to be dedicated to the outside zone play. It will be different. But it will be more what I'm used to, and Clancy's going to do a great job with it."

Additional topics addressed Saturday with McDaniels:

• Other coaching hires. The Broncos added more

Super Bowl pedigree to their coaching staff by hiring Bob Ligashesky, who served the past three seasons as special-teams coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ligashesky, 46, will be the new tight ends coach.

Denver also promoted Ben McDan-iels to quarterbacks coach, a move that allows Mike McCoy to devote fully to his offensive coordinator duties.

It's possible a few McDaniels detractors may believe Ben got the promotion for no other reason than he is Josh's younger brother.

"Just watch him coach," Josh McDaniels said. "He's intense. He's going to be tough. He will be able to relate to players. He's not intimidated by anything whatsoever. This won't be too big for him."

The Broncos are negotiating a new contract for special-teams assistant Keith Burns, but they have yet to announce their new defensive coordinator. Linebackers coach Tom Martindale is a candidate.

• The perception that McDaniels is difficult to work with. "I think it's a mistake," McDaniels said. "The same person people liked when we were 6-0 is the same person that's sitting in that chair in that office who's now 8-8. We've gone through adversity, and there's been some issues. I didn't change what I was doing. I didn't change how I was coaching. I didn't change how I was conducting meetings.

"The bottom line is once we get everything going in the right direction with all the right people, this is the philosophy that absolutely works. I've seen it.

"You're right: People want to say things, but no, I'm not hard to work with. The 99 percent of people I work with and get along with very well, they know what the heck is going on inside the Denver Broncos' building. People who have had an issue with me, or I've had an issue with, there's a reason. I'm not going to let things happen that shouldn't happen. If that's what people want, then maybe we disagree."

• Mike Nolan's departure. There had been speculation the defensive coordinator left the Broncos in large part because McDaniels was going to strip him of his trademark zone blitz on run downs.

"Anything regarding 'I wouldn't let him do that, I wouldn't let him do this' is totally false," McDaniels said. "It was mutual. I think it's best for all of us. The defensive philosophy that we use, that's ours. That's not going anywhere. It's our second year in the system, and we'll continue to do better. I have a lot of respect for Mike, and I wish him well. But I think this is going to be the best thing for the Broncos and the best thing for Mike Nolan. I think everybody wins in this."

Hamrob
01-24-2010, 09:02 AM
First off, how many teams run a zone blocking system...5 or 6? Secondly, take a look at the numbers for our running game the previous 10 seasons...amongst the top 5 in the entire NFL. Prior to McDaniels, our running game was a positive...not a problem.

azbroncfan
01-24-2010, 09:08 AM
But a funny thing has happened since then — no zone-blocking system has carried a team to the Super Bowl, much less won it, since the 1998 Broncos.


That is a BS statement. The Colts run a primarily a zone blocking scheme. Tampa did too if I remember correctly as zone blocking is a big part of WC offense.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 09:09 AM
First off, how many teams run a zone blocking system...5 or 6? Secondly, take a look at the numbers for our running game the previous 10 seasons...amongst the top 5 in the entire NFL. Prior to McDaniels, our running game was a positive...not a problem.

mcdaniels is running a new scheme with lineman that dont fit it, now maybe he shouldnt have changed the scheme, but thats waht coaches do. why is that a "problem" now? give him time to get his guys in, he will definitely upgrade oline this year.

Bronco Boy
01-24-2010, 09:10 AM
Way to give credit to the author.

Pick Six
01-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Good for McDaniels on the change. A power run blocking scheme may help in the redzone...

WolfpackGuy
01-24-2010, 09:13 AM
Good for McDaniels on the change. A power run blocking scheme may help in the redzone...

Question is...will they be able to GET to the redzone?

elsid13
01-24-2010, 09:16 AM
Why run the ball at all, when you can just run screen plays.

bendog
01-24-2010, 09:18 AM
Yet, last draft he was talking about how he looked for guys who could play center and guard, and that's not power blocking. This guy consistently says things at odds with other things he says.

I'm not against a power blocking scheme. It can be done without having to spend high picks on interior linemen. NE doesn't run a zone scheme so I've assumed Den would be changing. But Tiny drafted two undersized finesse olinemen last year.

http://www.profootballdraftnetwork.com/post-draft-analysis/afc-west-post-draft-analysis/denver-broncos.html

ps, but with stinky and nails, Den could run inside

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 09:21 AM
Way to give credit to the author.

i figured it was pretty obvious, but already changed it to include the link. im pretty sure most people here realize i didnt write it, it didnt have any capital letters

Pick Six
01-24-2010, 09:21 AM
Question is...will they be able to GET to the redzone?

I certainly hope so. That's never really a problem. Screens and other intermediate passes will get us there. The defense naturally plays closer to the ball in the redzone. That is where we've had trouble scoring...

watermock
01-24-2010, 09:23 AM
Win win and your brothers on the team!

http://southparktown.com/season5/episode1/

epicSocialism4tw
01-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Yet, last draft he was talking about how he looked for guys who could play center and guard, and that's not power blocking. This guy consistently says things at odds with other things he says.

I'm not against a power blocking scheme. It can be done without having to spend high picks on interior linemen. NE doesn't run a zone scheme so I've assumed Den would be changing. But Tiny drafted two undersized finesse olinemen last year.

http://www.profootballdraftnetwork.com/post-draft-analysis/afc-west-post-draft-analysis/denver-broncos.html

ps, but with stinky and nails, Den could run inside

Stink, Nails, Habib...those guys took whatever they wanted from the D-line.

I would put that offensive line up against any offensive line in the history of the NFL.

LT Zimmerman
LG Schlereth
C Nalen
RG Habib
RT T-Bone Tony Jones

Reserves: Matt Lepsis, Dan Niel, David Diaz-Infante

Wicked.

PaintballCLE
01-24-2010, 10:53 AM
the problem with the zone blocking scheme is it works well for running when used right, but its terrible for pass protection. I think if Orton gets more time in the pocket, it will open things up a lot.

Broncosfreak_56
01-24-2010, 11:15 AM
We are definitely going to focus on the O-line during the offseason.

SportinOne
01-24-2010, 11:23 AM
the problem with the zone blocking scheme is it works well for running when used right, but its terrible for pass protection. I think if Orton gets more time in the pocket, it will open things up a lot.

Yeah, you're right.

Wait, didn't our ZBS offensive line give up a league low 12 sacks in 2008?

My mistake, you're an idiot.

gtown
01-24-2010, 11:36 AM
Yeah, you're right.

Wait, didn't our ZBS offensive line give up a league low 12 sacks in 2008?

My mistake, you're an idiot.

They gave up a league low in 2008, but Hamilton and Weigmann were a year younger, Harris was healthy, and Cutler would get rid of the ball (sometimes to the other team) before taking sacks.

I think bigger lineman will help going down the stretch, give Orton a bit more time to pass, and improve our performance in the redzone, where you can't rely as much on trickery and rapid lateral movement. Plus, if McD is to be judged, he should at least be given the chance to run his offensive scheme in total.

PRBronco
01-24-2010, 11:39 AM
Friggin sweet, I've wanted a power running game since we lost Elway.

Popps
01-24-2010, 11:41 AM
click first please:
http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14256207



But a funny thing has happened since then no zone-blocking system has carried a team to the Super Bowl, much less won it, since the 1998 Broncos.



I brought up that question when we had this conversation and people tried to claim the Giants were a ZBS team. I don't think the Giants employed a full-time ZBS, and the writer doesn't seem to think so, either.

In fact, I'd like to see the rushing leaders since 1998. I'll bet very few of them came from ZBS teams, even on a percentage basis.

It's not a bad scheme when run correctly... but people around here seem to think it's pixie dust for success, just because it worked for us when Nirvana was still in the top 40.

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 11:42 AM
Any type of blocking would be a good thing cause we did very little of it last season in the run game.

ward63
01-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Well that's a good sign we will be getting bigger guys for the interior.

HEAV
01-24-2010, 11:53 AM
Bob Ligashesky, who served the past three seasons as special-teams coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ligashesky, 46, will be the new tight ends coach.


Well at least he won't be the SP Teams coach...the Steelers SP last year where horride!

While I understood the Zone blocking and apprieciated the Super Bowls it helped win and the talent it made @ RB, I'd rather have a O-line that punche people in the face near the goal line and lays teams to waste in the 4th quarter.

gtown
01-24-2010, 11:56 AM
ZBS had a time and a place, but it just seems antiquated now. More teams are moving to the 3-4 which means more weight on average at the LOS, it's a QB league and each team has to protect that investment, and the NFL is talking about making the season even 17-18 games. Bigger more rugged lineman are needed.

ZBS plays should be in the playbook, but I welcome the move to power running.

PRBronco
01-24-2010, 11:56 AM
Bob Ligashesky, who served the past three seasons as special-teams coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ligashesky, 46, will be the new tight ends coach.


Well at least he won't be the SP Teams coach...the Steelers SP last year where horride!

While I understood the Zone blocking and apprieciated the Super Bowls it helped win and the talent it made @ RB, I'd rather have a O-line that punche people in the face near the goal line and lays teams to waste in the 4th quarter.

Haha I f'ing lost it momentarily when I read that too.

On that note, is anyone surprised we still have our ST coach? I figured he'd be gone, based on the number of times I saw McD tearing him a new one on the sidelines.

azbroncfan
01-24-2010, 12:01 PM
I brought up that question when we had this conversation and people tried to claim the Giants were a ZBS team. I don't think the Giants employed a full-time ZBS, and the writer doesn't seem to think so, either.

In fact, I'd like to see the rushing leaders since 1998. I'll bet very few of them came from ZBS teams, even on a percentage basis.

It's not a bad scheme when run correctly... but people around here seem to think it's pixie dust for success, just because it worked for us when Nirvana was still in the top 40.

Well like I have said before the Colts won using it, but it can also be pointed out their running game this year was the worst in the league. I like a power game better. The zone game is good for creating long runs but has a lot of 2 yd or less runs.

Dedhed
01-24-2010, 01:12 PM
First off, how many teams run a zone blocking system...5 or 6? Secondly, take a look at the numbers for our running game the previous 10 seasons...amongst the top 5 in the entire NFL. Prior to McDaniels, our running game was a positive...not a problem.

That's a hugely misleading statement given the red zone woes and short yardage issues that have plagued the Broncos during the last decade. In those situations, when push comes to shove, the Broncos and their smaller ZBS linemen have been manhandled.

For a decade we've had major issues running the ball when we really need to be able to run the ball. With a lead, in the red zone, 3rd and short we've been nothing short of terrible.

Hamrob
01-24-2010, 01:37 PM
mcdaniels is running a new scheme with lineman that dont fit it, now maybe he shouldnt have changed the scheme, but thats waht coaches do. why is that a "problem" now? give him time to get his guys in, he will definitely upgrade oline this year.I understand that, and I agree we have to see what it turns out like. I think we've all wanted better interier lineman...even in the ZBS. As a Broncos fan, it's hard to turn the page on a system that was so proficient for such a long time. Even if and when we improve our interior line, we need backs who can hit the hole. I really hope that Moreno can be that guy...but, I'm skeptical. I think that's reasonable. Alot more reasonable that "Blind Faith".

Hamrob
01-24-2010, 01:41 PM
That's a hugely misleading statement given the red zone woes and short yardage issues that have plagued the Broncos during the last decade. In those situations, when push comes to shove, the Broncos and their smaller ZBS linemen have been manhandled.

For a decade we've had major issues running the ball when we really need to be able to run the ball. With a lead, in the red zone, 3rd and short we've been nothing short of terrible.I disagree...I think if you go back and break down everyone of the situation you refer to...the Broncos are ranked towards the top. Yes, we've had difficulties in short down yardage as of late (meaning the last two years) but not prior to then.

_Oro_
01-24-2010, 01:43 PM
I disagree...I think if you go back and break down everyone of the situation you refer to...the Broncos are ranked towards the top. Yes, we've had difficulties in short down yardage as of late (meaning the last two years) but not prior to then.

I remember sucking at running in the redzone ever since we drafted Cutler.

Dedhed
01-24-2010, 01:45 PM
I disagree...I think if you go back and break down everyone of the situation you refer to...the Broncos are ranked towards the top. Yes, we've had difficulties in short down yardage as of late (meaning the last two years) but not prior to then.

Simply not true. We've had huge issues in the red zone for at least 5 years. The same can be said for when we get leads and try to run the ball. Last year it was pitiful watching us try to run the ball with a lead. It was just totally fruitless.

The ZBS is dead, and trying to hold onto it would be a huge mistake. Has been a mistake for the better part of the 21st century.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 01:50 PM
I understand that, and I agree we have to see what it turns out like. I think we've all wanted better interier lineman...even in the ZBS. As a Broncos fan, it's hard to turn the page on a system that was so proficient for such a long time. Even if and when we improve our interior line, we need backs who can hit the hole. I really hope that Moreno can be that guy...but, I'm skeptical. I think that's reasonable. Alot more reasonable that "Blind Faith".

what you will see is very few if ANYONE on this forum have blind faith in the team, but the people who hate mcdaniels with every fiber of their being seem to put that label on us because they want people who support the coach to be homer koolaid drinking idiots, when in fact we are fairly critical of teh coach and every move he makes, and realize taht he has done a lot of good for this team whether people want to admit it or not.

moreno needs to step up next year for sure, he didnt show much this year, though he didnt get much help.

bendog
01-24-2010, 02:31 PM
cutler is responsible for lack of inside rushing game? lol

since nails retired and lepsis moved to the left and foster came in, they've regressed.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 02:39 PM
cutler is responsible for lack of inside rushing game? lol

since nails retired and lepsis moved to the left and foster came in, they've regressed.

Remember it always Cutler's and Shanahan's fault. If you fall from the party line we will take away your fan card.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 02:41 PM
Remember it always Cutler's and Shanahan's fault. If you fall from the party line we will take away your fan card.

again, another person like you making your little blanket statement because you are out of arguments to make that support your opinion, so you just attack the person whos on the other side.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 02:43 PM
again, another person like you making your little blanket statement because you are out of arguments to make that support your opinion, so you just attack the person whos on the other side.

Everything is not directed at you. Sometimes post are made as jokes. Unfortunately you fail to understand such things. Get over yourself, you're not that important at all.

_Oro_
01-24-2010, 02:47 PM
cutler is responsible for lack of inside rushing game? lol

since nails retired and lepsis moved to the left and foster came in, they've regressed.

I wasn't actually inferring that Cutler had anything to do with it. Just try to forget that post exists.

Dedhed
01-24-2010, 02:48 PM
since nails retired and lepsis moved to the left and foster came in, they've regressed.

You mean since the rest of the league figured out the ZBS it's regressed.

Fusionfrontman
01-24-2010, 03:21 PM
Nirvana disbanded in '94 after Cobain died, one year before we implemented the ZBS. And to my knowledge did not have a single in the top 40.

But I am excited about moving towards a power running game. I think McDaniels was trying to move toward that last year, but it just was not effective at all. Moreno behind a bunch of big OL should get better. And I think a rookie with a teerrible running OL rushing for just under 1000 yards is not terrible by far. Moreno will get better, just don't turn him out to be this draft's Ashley Lelie.

bpc
01-24-2010, 03:28 PM
the problem with the zone blocking scheme is it works well for running when used right, but its terrible for pass protection. I think if Orton gets more time in the pocket, it will open things up a lot.
11 sacks given up on offense two years ago. Good call.

SoCalBronco
01-24-2010, 03:29 PM
Unfortunate.

Play2win
01-24-2010, 03:31 PM
One great thing about moving to the Power Blocking scheme, is that it will (should) force us into bigger, stronger, more physical, and downright more MEAN OLinement. That is something I would think everybody would be celebrating.

Killericon
01-24-2010, 03:33 PM
I don't care if we run the ZBS or the Power...Just so long as it's good.

Ray Finkle
01-24-2010, 04:16 PM
I want a team that will maul the LOS.....especially at the goal line....the Broncos haven't done that in a long, long time.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 04:19 PM
One great thing about moving to the Power Blocking scheme, is that it will (should) force us into bigger, stronger, more physical, and downright more MEAN OLinement. That is something I would think everybody would be celebrating.

you think wrong sir. have you been on this forum lately?

DenverBrit
01-24-2010, 06:02 PM
So we're all agreed then.

The O line needs upgrading. :peace:

Dedhed
01-24-2010, 06:06 PM
So we're all agreed then.

The O line needs upgrading. :peace:

Unless, of course, McDaniels upgrades the OL. The Cutler and Shannyites will lament ANY move he makes.

DenverBrit
01-24-2010, 06:10 PM
Unless, of course, McDaniels upgrades the OL. The Cutler and Shannyites will lament ANY move he makes.

You're correct!

McPoopyPants won't get it right, not now, not ever.

bpc
01-24-2010, 06:29 PM
Hmmm... looks like Vikes are doing terrible with a ZBS. If they could hold on to the ball, they'd be doing a lot better.

They're running the cut back zone play like it's going out of style.

Play2win
01-24-2010, 07:58 PM
you think wrong sir. have you been on this forum lately?

From time to time. Its amazing how easy it is to "scan" over some of these posts... I keep wondering the pure chaos that would have ensued if the orange mane was round in the times of Elway vs. Reeves, the WADE years, or when we drafted Tommy Maddox...

woodall
01-24-2010, 08:34 PM
when in fact we are fairly critical of teh coach and every move he makes, and realize taht he has done a lot of good for this team whether people want to admit it or not.

McDouchebag has done a lot of good for this team? Like what? Name one thing, because it sure seems like the Broncos are getting worse instead of getting better. Soon Marshall will be gone and we'll get to enjoy another headscratcher of a draft just like last year.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 08:34 PM
From time to time. Its amazing how easy it is to "scan" over some of these posts... I keep wondering the pure chaos that would have ensued if the orange mane was round in the times of Elway vs. Reeves, the WADE years, or when we drafted Tommy Maddox...

just sayin. if mcdaniels did it, its 100% wrong, regardless of what he actually did. wait til draft time when he takes someone out of left field, half this forum will quit being bronco fans all together. i hope we take a CB with our first just to see people implode.

Archer81
01-24-2010, 10:18 PM
The final 4 teams in this year's championship games offensive line weights:

Colts
Saturday: 6'2, 295-C
Lilja: 6'2, 290-G
Ugoh: 6'5, 301-G
Diem: 6'6, 320-T
Johnson: 6'4, 305-T

Jets
Mangold: 6'4, 305-C
Faneca: 6'5, 305-G
Moore: 6'3, 305-G
Ferguson: 6'6, 310-T
Woody: 6'3, 330-T

Vikings
Sullivan: 6'4, 301-C
Herrera: 6'2, 315-G
Hutchinson: 6'5, 313-G
McKinnie: 6'8, 335-T
Loadholt: 6'8, 343-T

Saints
Nesbit: 6'4, 328-C
Evans: 6'4, 318-G
Nicks: 6'5, 343-G
Brown: 6'6, 313-T
Stinchcomb: 6'5, 315-T

Broncos
Weigmann: 6'2, 285-C
Kuper: 6'4, 303-G
Hochstein: 6'4, 305/Hamilton: 6'4, 290-G
Harris: 6'5, 300-T
Clady: 6'6, 325-T

:Broncos:

TheReverend
01-24-2010, 11:07 PM
The final 4 teams in this year's championship games offensive line weights:

Colts
Saturday: 6'2, 295-C
Lilja: 6'2, 290-G
Ugoh: 6'5, 301-G
Diem: 6'6, 320-T
Johnson: 6'4, 305-T

Jets
Mangold: 6'4, 305-C
Faneca: 6'5, 305-G
Moore: 6'3, 305-G
Ferguson: 6'6, 310-T
Woody: 6'3, 330-T

Vikings
Sullivan: 6'4, 301-C
Herrera: 6'2, 315-G
Hutchinson: 6'5, 313-G
McKinnie: 6'8, 335-T
Loadholt: 6'8, 343-T

Saints
Nesbit: 6'4, 328-C
Evans: 6'4, 318-G
Nicks: 6'5, 343-G
Brown: 6'6, 313-T
Stinchcomb: 6'5, 315-T

Broncos
Weigmann: 6'2, 285-C
Kuper: 6'4, 303-G
Hochstein: 6'4, 305/Hamilton: 6'4, 290-G
Harris: 6'5, 300-T
Clady: 6'6, 325-T

:Broncos:

In averages:

Colts
302 lbs

Jets
311 lbs

Vikings
321 lbs

Saints
323 lbs

Broncos
304 lbs

SportinOne
01-25-2010, 12:19 AM
The ZBS CAN work, and it has worked. In 2008 it worked great for us. The fact that Weigmann is only 285 means nothing. The fact that he is now old and decrepit means much. He owned in 2008.

I really have no preference as to which one we use. I would hope McDaniels would use whatever he feels best works for his planned offense (i hear we will have one next season).

However, I cannot agree with anyone who thinks that we NEED to switch to switch to a power scheme because the ZBS won't work anymore. It's complete BS. Again, he can do what he wants. At this point, he's got two decent sized tackles to build off of, so he could go either way.

Josh, just build a mother****in' line.

Elway777
01-25-2010, 12:24 AM
Don't be surprised if Kuper is traded to Houston for a 3 or 4 rounder and the Broncos sign Steve Neal as a free agent to play rignt guard.

ward63
01-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Don't be surprised if Kuper is traded to Houston for a 3 or 4 rounder and the Broncos sign Steve Neal as a free agent to play rignt guard.

I don't see the logic in this. Neal is able to play both guards and LG is our need, next to C.

DivineLegion
01-25-2010, 12:51 AM
Don't be surprised if Kuper is traded to Houston for a 3 or 4 rounder and the Broncos sign Steve Neal as a free agent to play rignt guard.

This makes absolutely no sense Kuper is the perfect size for a power line.

Hulamau
01-25-2010, 01:22 AM
The perception that McDaniels is difficult to work with. "I think it's a mistake," McDaniels said. "The same person people liked when we were 6-0 is the same person that's sitting in that chair in that office who's now 8-8. We've gone through adversity, and there's been some issues. I didn't change what I was doing. I didn't change how I was coaching. I didn't change how I was conducting meetings.

"The bottom line is once we get everything going in the right direction with all the right people, this is the philosophy that absolutely works. I've seen it.

"You're right: People want to say things, but no, I'm not hard to work with. The 99 percent of people I work with and get along with very well, they know what the heck is going on inside the Denver Broncos' building. People who have had an issue with me, or I've had an issue with, there's a reason. I'm not going to let things happen that shouldn't happen. If that's what people want, then maybe we disagree."

Mike Nolan's departure. There had been speculation the defensive coordinator left the Broncos in large part because McDaniels was going to strip him of his trademark zone blitz on run downs.

"Anything regarding 'I wouldn't let him do that, I wouldn't let him do this' is totally false," McDaniels said. "It was mutual. I think it's best for all of us. The defensive philosophy that we use, that's ours. That's not going anywhere. It's our second year in the system, and we'll continue to do better. I have a lot of respect for Mike, and I wish him well. But I think this is going to be the best thing for the Broncos and the best thing for Mike Nolan. I think everybody wins in this."

fontaine
01-25-2010, 01:41 AM
I don't care if you call the cinderella play time ballet scheme.

Just get it done, and fix the OL. We're really only two players short. The rest like Harris/Kuper/Clady can and will excel in any system. It's up the McD and the FO to fill in the missing pieces.