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The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 05:46 AM
Serious question - for those who stick around and positively support the Broncos.

Do you think the supposed "fans" that spin EVERYTHING the Broncos and McDaniels does in a negative light deserve to be happy or feed off the positive energy after/if we start winning? I'm not talking about fans who are critical - but fans who have a negative stance on EVERYTHING. I'm talking about the fans who'd rather have the team lose and the coach fail in order to be right... <<< --- are these even "fans"?

Be critical, it can be a good thing. It is possible be critical while being positive. It is also possible to be critical while still being a fan and showing support for the team.

However when you can't even post or discuss one positive thing about the Broncos, even if there is evidence that disputes the topics you're negatively trying to spin... it's apparent where you need to be... a fan of a different team.

The fans who can spin everything Shanny does in Washington as great/perfect/ The fans that are in love with Cutler. The fans that show NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER for the Broncos.

These "fans" are worse than trolls from other teams, because they actually have a reason/motive. When they're you're own fans... do they deserve to be here?

DBroncos4life
01-24-2010, 05:53 AM
The offseason seemed like the best time to make this thread eh? Is this a popular topic on the 49ers boards?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2010, 06:48 AM
Beginning the "Superfan" comments in 3... 2... 1...

elsid13
01-24-2010, 07:07 AM
must suck that folks make you post on the orangemane.

_Oro_
01-24-2010, 07:10 AM
Most will disappear if we start winning anyway (recall the 6-0 days). So it's pretty much a moot point.

WolfpackGuy
01-24-2010, 07:52 AM
http://thenashvilleminx.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/26407mstuart-smalley-posters.jpg

misturanderson
01-24-2010, 08:39 AM
Most will disappear if we start winning anyway (recall the 6-0 days). So it's pretty much a moot point.

All too true.

HAT
01-24-2010, 08:58 AM
Most will disappear if we start winning anyway (recall the 6-0 days). So it's pretty much a moot point.

Beat me to it.

gunns
01-24-2010, 09:15 AM
Funny thing is, those who are supposedly "positive" spend most of their time talking about those that aren't supposedly "positive" and those who are supposedly "negative" spend most of their time talking about the Broncos. I'm more tired of the "judges and juries" than anything. Thank God we aren't all the same and have some diversity.

bowtown
01-24-2010, 09:22 AM
If McDaniels flames out and gets fired, should those of us who support him have to leave? Stupid poll.

orangemonkey
01-24-2010, 09:30 AM
Since this thread was meant just to antagonize the members of the board. Here you go. Don't think this blog was posted yet:

Shmuck of the Week: Josh McDaniels's ego
By Joe Tone in Shmuck of the Week, SportsFri., Jan. 22 2010 @ 1:31PM


"Just a second. My ego's got an itch."
​I like to imagine that all of our shmucks -- every last one of them, from middle schoolers to the Mormon Madoff to the threesome from hell -- are, upon earning the honor, rounded up and herded into one confined space, to trade stories of their shmuckdom and steal each others' wallets. It doesn't really matter where -- although I always picture Epcot Center -- so long as they're together.

But if that's the case, this week's winner poses a bit of a problem, because I'm not sure there's a place -- save for some sub-Saharan African desert or Meryl Streep's awards shed -- that has room for Josh McDaniels's ego.

We've vacillated on McDaniels for months now, killing him in one breath and kissing his ring in the next. Finally, I've come to what I think will be some sort of conclusion. I like McDaniels. It's his ego I want to stab repeatedly.

I'm convinced the guy can coach, can motivate, can draw up a play and put people in position to execute that play. But -- as evidenced by his late-season personnel decisions, the exodus of his coaches, his de facto firing of Mike Nolan and so on -- his ego is just too big for his hoodie. And that will be his demise, at least in Denver. He'll probably learn to harness it one day, but by then he'll be running the offense for TCU.

So, shmucks, please make room in the buffet line, because there's a new passenger on the Shmuck of the Sea cruise ship. Josh McDaniels's ego is on board, and it needs to be fed.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/01/shmuck_of_the_week_josh_mcdani.php

orangemonkey
01-24-2010, 09:33 AM
Another gem:

Broncos' late-term abortion: How much blame does Josh McDaniels deserve?
By Michael Roberts in SportsMon., Jan. 4 2010 @ 9:28AM


Josh McDaniels scratches his head at the post-game press conference. Just like the rest of us.
​As I was signing off prior to two weeks worth of vacation, everything seemed to be going the Broncos' way. Their next opponent, the Oakland Raiders, was in hilarious turmoil, choosing to skip over their much-ballyhooed number one draft choice, JaMarcus Russell, to start third-stringer Charlie Frye at QB. No way the Broncos would lose that game -- not on this planet. And even though a matchup with the Eagles in Philadelphia looked like a loss, the final game of the season was against the laughably woeful Kansas City Chiefs, who Denver had dismantled less than a month earlier to avenge the mistreatment of the late, lamented Barrel Man by the Chiefs' mascot, K.C. Wolf. Playoffs? Destiny!

Hell to the no. Three humiliating losses later, the Broncos' future smells as sweet as a ruptured colostomy bag -- and coach Josh McDaniels had a lot to do with it.

Why? The play-calling in the Raiders game was an absolute joke, resulting in too many field goals when touchdowns were a requirement. If McDaniels had made bolder choices earlier, the Raiders wouldn't have been able to complete their unlikely (and infuriating) comeback, which was aided and abetted by a defense that's gone from bend-but-don't-break to bend, bend some more, and then break at the worst possible moment.

Philly? The Broncos willingly climbed into a hole that got deeper and deeper and deeper, and although the team showed some heart down the stretch, a moral victory meant squat, and precipitated the sort of unraveling that gave fans an early season flashback.

Suddenly, Brandon Marshall, who'd been on his best behavior for weeks, was called out and publicly benched shortly after being named to the Pro Bowl -- and Tony Scheffler quickly followed. Hard to say if McDaniels had a choice in these matters, given how much all parties have spun the sitch. But the moves suggested that McDaniels knew the Broncos wouldn't be making the playoffs, despite still having a technical chance of doing so, and therefore decided to make macho points in the hope of proving once and for all who's got the biggest swinging dick on the squad.

Problem is, this penis-length contest sent a message to the team that McDaniels was already looking toward next year -- and yesterday, they played like it.

What next? The probable departure of Marshall, and of Kyle Orton, too. Being a game manager, as Orton is, only works if the rest of the outfit is stronger than this one -- and he showed that he's all but incapable of taking the team on his shoulders when everything else is sewer-bound. As for McDaniels, he's once again looking like the immature, hair-trigger type he did during the whole Jay Cutler fiasco. A drama queen with a crew cut.

Yes, an 8-8 record is a lot better than I or anyone else expected this year, and I suppose we should be grateful for that. But that's a hard argument to make when the team started out 6-0 before going on to lose eight of the last ten. Point blank, the Broncos are an even hotter mess than they were six months ago, and the person in charge seems better at creating problems than fixing them. Happy New Year!
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/01/broncos_late-term_abortion_how.php

bowtown
01-24-2010, 09:36 AM
Which one of you guys wrote these?

orangemonkey
01-24-2010, 09:39 AM
Josh McDaniels says goodbye to Mike Nolan in thirteen words that add up to two: "Drop dead"
By Michael Roberts in Follow That Story, SportsTue., Jan. 19 2010 @ 8:55AM


"Hey, Mike! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
​Last week's Denver Blogs headline "Josh McDaniels's Coaches Getting the Hell Out of Dodge" is as timely as ever owing to the latest JD assistant to march out the door: defensive coordinator Mike Nolan.

Unlike previous ship-abandoners Rick Dennison and Bobby Turner, who signed up with former colleagues/bosses in Houston and Washington, respectively, Nolan was a McDaniels guy from the start -- yet the allegedly mutual split looks to be nasty. McDaniels issued a thirteen-word statement on the subject: "I have great respect for Mike and wish him success in the future." And the Broncos' website has already scrubbed Nolan from the staff list, as if the disastrous end of the season was all his fault.

Of course, Nolan does deserve some of the blame. But there's plenty of it to go around.

Early on, Denver's defense seemed stouter than recent editions despite McDaniels using relatively few of the team's top draft choices to address what even a post-blinding Oedipus could have seen was a major need. As the season wore on, however, the trickery Nolan used to patch over weaknesses began to thin. Down the stretch, squads as mediocre as the Washington Redskins were able to control the ball and chew up clock, which would have caused most coaches to yank out their hair. Maybe that's why McDaniels keeps his trimmed so short.

Now -- big fat surprise -- McD is reportedly set on bringing aboard another New England Patriots alum: Dean Pees, a friend of the McDaniels family from way back. And that's a good thing, because thus far, there's no sign that many other members of young Josh's coaching staff have warmed to him -- the exits of Dennison and Turner being exhibits one and two.

ESPN's Rick Kurtzman sees a pattern in the recent departures, whether forced or not, and asks, "Is McDaniels really so arrogant and egocentric that he would rather lord over the Broncos' organization than work with talented parts to create a competitive whole? Or, was the football field greener on the other side for those men?"

Good questions. Obviously, McDaniels doesn't want for confidence. But his my-way-or-the-highway shtick will become counterproductive if the Broncos go from a franchise where people want to play and work to one they can't wait to flee.
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/01/josh_mcdaniels_uses_thirteen_w.php

bendog
01-24-2010, 10:13 AM
shove it kid. Lil Josh goes 13-3 and plays this weekend he'll be as good as shanny was after the Duke retired. And, I'll say it.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 10:14 AM
shove it kid. Lil Josh goes 13-3 and plays this weekend he'll be as good as shanny was after the Duke retired. And, I'll say it.

Did I tell you that I am glad your back. Now if Slap would come back, this board would rock.

bendog
01-24-2010, 10:21 AM
thanks. I didn't think the board needed me as this season imploded as I though it would. They should have been under .500 though. I understand the sonic - champ trade, but that guy was fun to watch run.

gunns
01-24-2010, 10:32 AM
Did I tell you that I am glad your back. Now if Slap would come back, this board would rock.

Truth

TheReverend
01-24-2010, 10:59 AM
I voted ban them :)

elsid13
01-24-2010, 11:02 AM
I voted ban them :)

I will get Hotrod right on it.

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 11:24 AM
They should be forced to tailgate naked and drink really cheap warm beer and then watch the game on TV in the parking lot sitting in lawn chairs with most of the straps missing.

bendog
01-24-2010, 11:26 AM
Ah no, I took a year off on the nfl direct tix, but I get Saints for free ((-: Off to the gym to stake out a treadmill or bike for the early game. Chicken Nachos and Sam Adams seasonal brew of 5 hopped Pilsner.

DrFate
01-24-2010, 12:41 PM
Do you feel that playing the "I'm a good fan and you are bad fan" card is good for the board?

Dr. Broncenstein
01-24-2010, 12:59 PM
Eat a bowl of dick, submitter....

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 01:06 PM
http://www.razaodiada.orconhosting.net.nz/Stupid%20thread.gif

listopencil
01-24-2010, 01:28 PM
Should dumbasses who create worthless polls be here at all?

SouthStndJunkie
01-24-2010, 01:43 PM
No MVPlaya....everyone should have the same exact opinion and agree with every move and decision the Broncos make....we should all be mindless zealots.

Killericon
01-24-2010, 01:49 PM
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Vercetti101/Stupid.jpg

TheDave
01-24-2010, 01:58 PM
Another I'm a better fan than you thread... and this one has a poll!!!

YES!!!

elsid13
01-24-2010, 01:59 PM
Another I'm a better fan than you thread... and this one has a poll!!!

YES!!!

You still didn't it.

Popps
01-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Of course they should still be here if we start winning.

How else will they spin our success into Josh "just doing what they said we should do" if they're gone?

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 02:32 PM
No MVPlaya....everyone should have the same exact opinion and agree with every move and decision the Broncos make....we should all be mindless zealots.

Is it hard to read something and understand it?

Be critical, it can be a good thing. It is possible be critical while being positive. It is also possible to be critical while still being a fan and showing support for the team.

Clockwork Orange
01-24-2010, 02:37 PM
Ohhh, so people are allowed to be critical, but they have to be critical in a way deemed acceptable by those who worship at the altar of McDaniels. Gotcha.

_Oro_
01-24-2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.razaodiada.orconhosting.net.nz/Stupid%20thread.gif

The irony of posts like these gets me every time.

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 02:43 PM
Funny thing is, those who are supposedly "positive" spend most of their time talking about those that aren't supposedly "positive" and those who are supposedly "negative" spend most of their time talking about the Broncos. I'm more tired of the "judges and juries" than anything. Thank God we aren't all the same and have some diversity.

It also "seems" to be only the "positive fans" who are calling for/suggesting banning for those who aren't yet convinced that the future is going to be completely rosy...

Intolerance of others' viewpoints isn't a virtue.... and requesting that repercussions be instated for failure to conform to "peer pressure" would do nothing more than to stifle discussion (silencing all but the "approved" opinions).

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 02:50 PM
Ohhh, so people are allowed to be critical, but they have to be critical in a way deemed acceptable by those who worship at the altar of McDaniels. Gotcha.

Yup, that's exactly what I said.

The level of stupidity here is amazing. I'd feel like I'm talking to 5th graders.

:notthissh

Do you think the supposed "fans" that spin EVERYTHING the Broncos and McDaniels does in a negative light deserve to be happy or feed off the positive energy after/if we start winning? I'm not talking about fans who are critical - but fans who have a negative stance on EVERYTHING.


However when you can't even post or discuss one positive thing about the Broncos, even if there is evidence that disputes the topics you're negatively trying to spin... it's apparent where you need to be... a fan of a different team.

The fans who can spin everything Shanny does in Washington as great/perfect/ The fans that are in love with Cutler. The fans that show NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER for the Broncos.

Read it, and tell me how stupid you're sarcastic post was.

I'm beginning to learn that most people here don't read more than 3 lines before making a post.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 02:55 PM
It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, it's a good thing. It's a good thing to have people who offer different viewpoints, it's much needed for any interesting/resourceful place.

I'm talking about the people who have NOTHING but negative light. Regardless of what happens, it will be bad. It's the fans who make it apparent that'd rather just be with the Redskins/Bears.

I'm not surprised thought, there are many people in this world who can't see anything but bad even when good is sitting right in front of their eyes.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 02:56 PM
im just gonna keep copying and pasting this til you idiots get it through your thick skulls.

you can be critical of the coach, but going to a bronco fan message board and trying to convince other people who enjoy watching the team and the progress they make that teh coach has absolutely destroyed the team and the world is going to end is getting ****ing old, its been going on for almost a year now. if you hate everything that much, fine, but quit trying to ruin it for everyone else by telling us how bad it will be in the future, some of us actually enjoy following the team through the offseason without that bull**** in every post.

what you will see is very few if ANYONE on this forum have blind faith in the team and the coach, but the people who hate mcdaniels with every fiber of their being seem to put that label on us because they want people who support the coach to be homer koolaid drinking idiots, when in fact we are fairly critical of the coach and every move he makes, but also realize taht he has done a lot of good for this team whether people want to admit it or not. a coach who goes 8-8 in his first year with new systems on both sides of the ball and has improved our scored/allowed ratio as much as he has has done a GREAT job, regardless if his 6-0 start didnt turn into a playoff appearance.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 02:59 PM
I'm talking about the fans who'd rather have the team lose and the coach fail in order to be right... <<< --- are these even "fans"?

Clockwork Orange
01-24-2010, 03:03 PM
Listen dickmitten, I know you have an astoundingly high opinion of your opinion, but get this, you don't get to tell other people what to think or how to express their opinion. You and the rest like you who try to act as though you have some kind of authority to revoke other people's fan cards just because they don't happen to agree with your pollyanna view of the team can go fistpump each other. Your act is as tired as those who spew the constant negativity that seems to have given you such a nasty case of the red ass.

There has always been division, criticism (fair or unfair) and overall disagreement on this board. If you think your little hero, Josh, is the only one to have a mountain of **** heaped on him, warranted or not, you haven't been paying attention. Griese, Plummer, Cutler and especially Shanahan have been ripped and roasted without fail on this board over the years, yet I don't seem to remember you going all Sally Struthers over that.

If you have such a problem with people disagreeing with you, feel free to go hang with the delusional homers at Milehighreport, where everything is sunshine and lollipops. In the meantime, your questioning whether people who disagree with you should be here is ****ing played out already, so give it a rest.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 03:04 PM
i still dont think the morons on this board understand the difference between criticism and just blind ridiculous hatred without even pretending to care about real facts and situations.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:09 PM
Listen dickmitten, I know you have an astoundingly high opinion of your opinion, but get this, you don't get to tell other people what to think or how to express their opinion. You and the rest like you who try to act as though you have some kind of authority to revoke other people's fan cards just because they don't happen to agree with your pollyanna view of the team can go fistpump each other. Your act is as tired as those who spew the constant negativity that seems to have given you such a nasty case of the red ass.

There has always been division, criticism (fair or unfair) and overall disagreement on this board. If you think your little hero, Josh, is the only one to have a mountain of **** heaped on him, warranted or not, you haven't been paying attention. Griese, Plummer, Cutler and especially Shanahan have been ripped and roasted without fail on this board over the years, yet I don't seem to remember you going all Sally Struthers over that.

If you have such a problem with people disagreeing with you, feel free to go hang with the delusional homers at Milehighreport, where everything is sunshine and lollipops. In the meantime, your questioning whether people who disagree with you should be here is ****ing played out already, so give it a rest.

lol I have no problem with people disagreeing with me... I think I've made that pretty clear. If I was telling people how to think, what to think, what to say, what to agree on, I'd probably agree with your post.

But since I'm NOT saying that, I'm not going to take much weight into your post because of your inability to understand what I'm saying and the crowd I'm looking at.

Disagree with me, I DON'T MIND - but when it's blind hate, hate that makes you want to the team to LOSE, why the fucc should you be here?

No one is mad when people have different opinions...

Shanny has never been ripped to this level of being fired and wanting the team to lose... NEVER. Never has this place turned in with so many members wanting to the team to fail and falling in love with other teams. Shanny was said that he pretty much had immunity in Denver... people were happy.

PEOPLE WANT THIS TEAM TO LOSE IN ORDER TO BE RIGHT ABOUT MCDANIELS. And these aren't fans of rival teams I'm talking about, these are supposed Broncos fans.

Open your fuccing eyes.

Clockwork Orange
01-24-2010, 03:16 PM
lol I have no problem with people disagreeing with me... I think I've made that pretty clear. If I was telling people how to think, what to think, what to say, what to agree on, I'd probably agree with your post.

But since I'm NOT saying that, I'm not going to take much weight into your post because of your inability to understand what I'm saying and the crowd I'm looking at.

Disagree with me, I DON'T MIND - but when it's blind hate, hate that makes you want to the team to LOSE, why the fucc should you be here?

No one is mad when people have different opinions...

Shanny has never been ripped to this level of being fired and wanting the team to lose... NEVER. Never has this place turned in with so many members wanting to the team to fail and falling in love with other teams.

Open your fuccing eyes.

What's always good for a laugh is that the sunshine up your skirt crowd, like yourself, don't seem to realize that you're just as much a part of the problem as the doom and gloomers. Your actions are just as devisive, yet you ignore that because you have this belief that you're fighting the good fight.

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 03:26 PM
lol I have no problem with people disagreeing with me... I think I've made that pretty clear. If I was telling people how to think, what to think, what to say, what to agree on, I'd probably agree with your post.

But since I'm NOT saying that, I'm not going to take much weight into your post because of your inability to understand what I'm saying and the crowd I'm looking at.

Disagree with me, I DON'T MIND - but when it's blind hate, hate that makes you want to the team to LOSE, why the fucc should you be here?

No one is mad when people have different opinions...

Shanny has never been ripped to this level of being fired and wanting the team to lose... NEVER. Never has this place turned in with so many members wanting to the team to fail and falling in love with other teams. Shanny was said that he pretty much had immunity in Denver... people were happy.

PEOPLE WANT THIS TEAM TO LOSE IN ORDER TO BE RIGHT ABOUT MCDANIELS. And these aren't fans of rival teams I'm talking about, these are supposed Broncos fans.

Open your fuccing eyes.

The timing of the thread is what I'd question... it's not like we have even a scintilla of a chance of "winning" anything for at least 7 more months (when preseason starts and by then this thread will be buried so deep in the archives, it will be irrelevant anyway) so all it's going to do... at this time... is turn into yet another divisive "I'm a better fan than you" flamefest.

lostknight
01-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Isn't this the second time you have started a thread that basically says "If you don't agree with me, then you are not a Broncos fan"

This one is as pointless and stupid as the first.

bendog
01-24-2010, 03:34 PM
Amazing. No matter how much he's hammered or proven wrong he keeps chugging along. too funny.

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 03:42 PM
I'm talking about the fans who'd rather have the team lose and the coach fail in order to be right... <<< --- are these even "fans"?

"Threads created for no purpose whatsoever other than to slam/demean other fans" and create more hostility/divisions in an already-fractured fanbase... if I'm questioning whether or not something "belongs" on the Mane, that just might be a good place to start.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:47 PM
"Threads created for no purpose whatsoever other than to slam/demean other fans" and create more hostility/divisions in an already-fractured fanbase... if I'm questioning whether or not something "belongs" on the Mane, that just might be a good place to start.

2 steps back 1 step forward?

I'm questioning, are these even "FANS"? They're fans just because they talk about the team, right? So If I go to the Chargers forums make posts about the Chargers, I'm a Chargers fan?

So what do you suggest? Not doing anything or actually doing something about it? Making a statement/thread about it? It's easy to talk sh1t to those who are actually addressing issue, rather than laying back telling people what's a good/bad place to start.

Yeah - I should make this thread during the season as the Broncos are playing, that would be a great idea! SMH

This is the type of thread that SHOULD be made in the off-season as it's relevant to everything that IS happening in the off-season.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:48 PM
Isn't this the second time you have started a thread that basically says "If you don't agree with me, then you are not a Broncos fan"

This one is as pointless and stupid as the first.

Is it? Where is my first?

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:51 PM
Amazing. No matter how much he's hammered or proven wrong he keeps chugging along. too funny.

It's funny how I'm getting hammered/proven wrong when all my statements become avoided.

I respond, and then people derail their points onto another point. I've asked OVER and OVER about fans who want the team to lose rather than win, yet I haven't received any response other than "they talk about the team." <<<--- and that I've responded to.

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 03:51 PM
http://maxcdn.thedesigninspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/punch-face-l.jpg



Yea we get it you are for differences of opinion as long as everyone agrees with you cause you know all and anyone who questions should go root for the Raiders . We get it already ... Hell instead of a new thread for the same topic bump one of the other 50 ...

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:53 PM
i still dont think the morons on this board understand the difference between criticism and just blind ridiculous hatred without even pretending to care about real facts and situations.

LOL they don't, hence what you see in here.

TheDave
01-24-2010, 03:53 PM
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The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:54 PM
Yea we get it you are for differences of opinion as long as everyone agrees with you cause you know all and anyone who questions should go root for the Raiders . We get it already ... Hell instead of a new thread for the same topic bump one of the other 50 ...

LOL how ironic is it that someone would make that post with a Brett Favre jersey in the avatar.

I should go get a Manning one in mine. :giggle:

The MVPlaya
01-24-2010, 03:54 PM
I'm talking about the fans who'd rather have the team lose and the coach fail in order to be right... <<< --- are these even "fans"?

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 03:57 PM
2 steps back 1 step forward?

I'm questioning, are these even "FANS"? They're fans just because they talk about the team, right? So If I go to the Chargers forums make posts about the Chargers, I'm a Chargers fan?

So what do you suggest? Not doing anything or actually doing something about it? Making a statement/thread about it? It's easy to talk sh1t to those who are actually addressing issue, rather than laying back telling people what's a good/bad place to start.

Yeah - I should make this thread during the season as the Broncos are playing. This is the type of thread that SHOULD be made in the off-season as it's relevant to everything that IS happening in the off-season.

OK... so what gives you (or me or anyone else) the right to question... or to decide... who is and is not a fan? ??? (nothing does, IMHO)

I think the purpose of an internet forum is to be a place for all viewpoints to be freely aired, within the constraints of forum rules... and that it's not conducive to good interaction within the community when one portion (or another) appoints themselves the "arbiters" of "good or bad fanship"... or even tries in any way to judge others. IMHO, diversity of opinions is not only a good thing; it's essential to lively discussions. So what I suggest is "live and let live"... if someone's opinions annoy or offend you personally, then place that poster on ignore or do what you have to do to enjoy the forum and get along in peace with others.

And again, it will be August before this team has any opportunity to "start winning"....

wandlc
01-24-2010, 03:57 PM
i still dont think the morons on this board understand the difference between criticism and just blind ridiculous hatred without even pretending to care about real facts and situations.

Another example of pot calling kettle black. Read some of your post from the last year or so. I have seen plenty of hatred from both sides in this argument which would be amusing if I wasn't sick of seeing it all the time.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 03:58 PM
...

using the Swedish Penis Pump again?

TheDave
01-24-2010, 04:00 PM
using the Swedish Penis Pump again?

My hope is that one day I can compete with the "real" fans... ;D

elsid13
01-24-2010, 04:02 PM
My hope is that one day I can compete with the "real" fans... ;D

you are not a "real" fan unless you make a poll about it.

TheDave
01-24-2010, 04:03 PM
you are not a "real" fan unless you make a poll about it.

Good point...

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 04:03 PM
LOL how ironic is it that someone would make that post with a Brett Favre jersey in the avatar.

I should go get a Manning one in mine. :giggle:

Proving once again you are dense as gold ...

I'm mocking Brett with a misspelled jersey ... But who would expect someone with your vast intellect to get that it's misspelled....

I get it tho you are a much better fan than me...

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 04:05 PM
That's just good stuff right there .... You can't make up that kinda stupid ...


edit: where yas at The MVPlaya , I was expecting some quick witty reply ...

Hell , maybe I should start a poll on if you are borderline retarded if you should be banned and make this a better place.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 04:06 PM
Good point...

I fixed it for you buddy.

SureShot
01-24-2010, 04:07 PM
...

That is easily explained they take this.


26008

gunns
01-24-2010, 04:11 PM
Yup, that's exactly what I said.

The level of stupidity here is amazing. I'd feel like I'm talking to 5th graders.

:notthissh



Read it, and tell me how stupid you're sarcastic post was.

I'm beginning to learn that most people here don't read more than 3 lines before making a post.

No, I believe it's you who doesn't get it. I firmly believe the majority of people on this board AND those who are consistently negative want the best for the Broncos. Who has the right to not allow them to enjoy the Broncos success? My biggest question is why do the "positive" people care and read the "negative" people's posts. I see one of those I'm sure you "label" as totally negative about everything the Broncos do and there are 7 pages. People feed them. Stop responding to them and they'll have nothing to feed off or at least you won't be bothered by them and won't know if they are "illegally" enjoying the Broncos success or trying to invade the "positive" people's Superfandom. Geez.

SportinOne
01-24-2010, 04:13 PM
i like how all the "real fans" assume that the people who are critical want the team to fail.

let's be clear. we want the Broncos to win. we want to win a championship. that doesn't mean we expect a championship, but that's why you play the god damn game isn't it?

I'm wondering how true fans watch bronco games. I bet it goes a lot like this:

Loss to the Colts: "Boy that was fun, wasn't it? We really battled back there *fist pump*, see you guys next weekend *high fives all around*."

Loss to the Eagles: "Man, does that Kyle Orton know how to throw the ball away when he has to. Cutler would have forced some of those throws, probably would have cost us the game."

Loss to the Chiefs: "Oh, well, what more can you ask for? 8-8 after what happened in the offseason? .500 Season? You can't complain about that, right? *high five* right? *high five* right? *high five* Yeahhh!"

bpc
01-24-2010, 04:13 PM
<a href="http://s434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/bpc5180/?action=view&current=think.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/bpc5180/think.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Substitute fan for worker, fits to a "T".

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm talking about the fans who'd rather have the team lose and the coach fail in order to be right... <<< --- are these even "fans"?

Y'know... I've seen one person post that they'd be happy if the team loses (so that the coach would fail and be fired). Hardly an epidemic of such "fans" severe enough to require an offseason poll.

gunns
01-24-2010, 04:22 PM
i still dont think the morons on this board understand the difference between criticism and just blind ridiculous hatred without even pretending to care about real facts and situations.

So, do you go by Judge Tsi or Judge Guy? You spend more time talking about the "moron's" on this board and what they should be posting, than you do the Broncos. I guess I have to question your fandom.

Oh Judge, why don't you post the real facts and situations. It would clear up a lot I'm sure. And no, you haven't.

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 04:23 PM
LOL how ironic is it that someone would make that post with a Brett Favre jersey in the avatar.

I should go get a Manning one in mine. :giggle:



Just have to have me another shot of this ....

Yea man you are totally brilliant .

I'm sitting in a orange and blue room full of broncos $hit yet I'm a big Brett Farve fan ... Dude I'm making fun of the fact either he can't spell or doesn't know how to pronounce his name...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3126/1000457medium.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/247/1000450medium.jpg


But me a Farve fan .... that's just brilliant... I refuse to even spell his name right in any post...
That's the funniest $hit I've heard all day...


But calling me a farve fan should prove that listening to much you say is pretty worthless... But yea you are such a better fan then anyone else here ... we get it...


Edit... fixed for thedave ... no biggy man...

TheDave
01-24-2010, 04:26 PM
JMO, but I would have kept the whole Bronco's colored pipe thing to myself...

SureShot
01-24-2010, 04:29 PM
JMO, but I would have kept the whole Bronco's colored pipe thing to myself...

He didnt say he was passing it around down there.

scttgrd
01-24-2010, 04:33 PM
I love to see these "better" fans. How fast will they hide like little girls if the team tanks next year? If it wasn't for the the stupid I would have half of these jokers on ignore, but they are too funny to miss. Most of these people are the same ones who defended Shanny when Wolf457 came calling. Pathetic. Now they look just like what they blasted. Shanny needed to go, but the new guy is in over his head.

TheReverend
01-24-2010, 04:33 PM
JMO, but I would have kept the whole Bronco's colored pipe thing to myself...

For tobacco use only, obviously

TheDave
01-24-2010, 04:34 PM
He didnt say he was passing it around down there.

I'm just trying to help out here...

Back in the day, when I use to get into these dick measuring contests I would often show pictures of my orange and blue themed heroine kit or even my horse head butt plug. Though these were proof of my great fandom, later these pictures were a bit of an obstacle at a family reunion...

Just Sayin'

TheReverend
01-24-2010, 04:36 PM
I'm just trying to help out here...

Back in the day, when I use to get into these dick measuring contests I would often show pictures of my orange and blue themed heroine kit or even my horse head butt plug. Though these were proof of my great fandom, later these pictures were a bit of an obstacle at a family reunion...

Just Sayin'

No throw back striped body bags?

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 04:37 PM
no biggy ...

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 04:38 PM
I love to see these "better" fans. How fast will they hide like little girls if the team tanks next year? If it wasn't for the the stupid I would have half of these jokers on ignore, but they are too funny to miss. Most of these people are the same ones who defended Shanny when Wolf457 came calling. Pathetic. Now they look just like what they blasted. Shanny needed to go, but the new guy is in over his head.

ummm i dont think anyone will hide. just because we choose to fairly criticize him instead of taking every single shot possible and twisting and turning the facts as well as RAMPANT speculation to try and prove points means we are more logical, reasonable people. the hater group are idiots because no matter what happens, every single thing mcdaniels does will be wrong, regardless of outcome.

TheDave
01-24-2010, 04:38 PM
No throw back striped body bags?

They make those?

scttgrd
01-24-2010, 04:42 PM
ummm i dont think anyone will hide. just because we choose to fairly criticize him instead of taking every single shot possible and twisting and turning the facts as well as RAMPANT speculation to try and prove points means we are more logical, reasonable people. the hater group are idiots because no matter what happens, every single thing mcdaniels does will be wrong, regardless of outcome.

You are the poster boy of blind faith. I find your posts some of the more hilarious. If things go as well as they did last offseason, this team will be lucky to sniff .500. I look forward to the excuses and consternation.

TheReverend
01-24-2010, 04:44 PM
They make those?

Well... someone is clearly not a true fan.

elsid13
01-24-2010, 04:46 PM
Well... someone is clearly not a true fan.

That why we are decide his fate........

Blueflame
01-24-2010, 04:47 PM
With apologies to Pearl Jam....

Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better... fan...


LOL

gunns
01-24-2010, 04:49 PM
You are the poster boy of blind faith. I find your posts some of the more hilarious. If things go as well as they did last offseason, this team will be lucky to sniff .500. I look forward to the excuses and consternation.

But he never said he was perfect. I love it when he comes back with a pinch of negativity when things don't go exactly how he said they would to the "negative" people. Real facts and situations?

Killericon
01-24-2010, 04:51 PM
I hate what this place has become so much it's wrapped right back around into love. A kind of pitiful love.

You guys are the best.

TDmvp
01-24-2010, 04:52 PM
With apologies to Pearl Jam....

Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better... fan...


LOL

:spit:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2490/motivator8028312.jpg

Killericon
01-24-2010, 04:57 PM
http://img3.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/2/b/a/6/8/2ba6835dc5b532867be5b2fe5145b488_full.jpg

You guys just aren't hardcore enough. I know what Josh had for breakfast this morning.

colonelbeef
01-24-2010, 06:48 PM
MVPlaya- shut the **** up you whiny little girl

Hamrob
01-24-2010, 07:05 PM
ummm i dont think anyone will hide. just because we choose to fairly criticize him instead of taking every single shot possible and twisting and turning the facts as well as RAMPANT speculation to try and prove points means we are more logical, reasonable people. the hater group are idiots because no matter what happens, every single thing mcdaniels does will be wrong, regardless of outcome.When have you criticized him...you Mcdaniels guzzler...please!!!!

woodall
01-24-2010, 09:56 PM
One more time for the McDaniels ball-licking crowd:

McDaniels is not the Broncos. A person can criticize McDaniels and still love and support the Broncos. This isn't that hard to understand unless you are a retard.

Los Broncos
01-25-2010, 12:34 AM
The only poster who should be banned if any, is Bob.

SportinOne
01-25-2010, 01:08 AM
One more time for the McDaniels ball-licking crowd:

McDaniels is not the Broncos. A person can criticize McDaniels and still love and support the Broncos. This isn't that hard to understand unless you are a retard.

Can't be said enough.

RaiderH8r
01-25-2010, 07:22 AM
They make those?

The NFL will license anything to turn a buck, it's a business man.

RaiderH8r
01-25-2010, 07:24 AM
With apologies to Pearl Jam....

Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better fan
Can't find a better... fan...


LOL

She lies and says its in the fridge
I can't find the butter man.
I dream of toast with butter spread
I can't find the butter man.

DrFate
01-25-2010, 07:29 AM
I'm questioning, are these even "FANS"? They're fans just because they talk about the team, right?

I suppose you should start issuing 'Real Fan' cards - so we can tell the Playa-approved fans from everyone else.

Meck77
01-25-2010, 07:30 AM
Who Posted?
Total Posts: 96
User Name Posts
The MVPlaya 12
elsid13 8
TDmvp 7
TheDave 7
Blueflame 6
gunns 5
bendog 4
TheReverend 4
orangemonkey 3
Killericon 3
tsiguy96 3
Clockwork Orange 3
McChamp 2
Casson 2
bowtown 2
RaiderH8r 2
scttgrd 2
SureShot 2
DrFate 2
HAT 1
WolfpackGuy 1
Bronx33 1
woodall 1
Dr. Broncenstein 1
SouthStndJunkie 1
DBroncos4life 1
bpc 1
colonelbeef 1
ThatOneDenverMooseGuy 1
Iron Clady 1
Hamrob 1
Popps 1
misturanderson 1
listopencil 1
lostknight 1
wandlc 1
Show Thread & Clo

The MVPlaya
01-25-2010, 03:28 PM
Y'know... I've seen one person post that they'd be happy if the team loses (so that the coach would fail and be fired). Hardly an epidemic of such "fans" severe enough to require an offseason poll.

If you can't see it without someone actually admitting it... I guess I'll just go back to my 5th grader statement.

TheReverend
01-25-2010, 03:44 PM
If you can't see it without someone actually admitting it... I guess I'll just go back to my 5th grader statement.

The LVPlaya strikes again

Blueflame
01-25-2010, 05:14 PM
If you can't see it without someone actually admitting it... I guess I'll just go back to my 5th grader statement.

Seems to me that I saw "Steeledude" or somesuch username make that statement. Going further than that (projecting that opinion on others based on criticisms... valid or not... of a rookie HC and the direction a mediocre team is heading) is nothing more than appointing yourself as the judge over your fellow fans' "fan cards". Why does it seem so important to you to judge others? ???

epicSocialism4tw
01-25-2010, 05:48 PM
Just have to have me another shot of this ....

Yea man you are totally brilliant .

I'm sitting in a orange and blue room full of broncos $hit yet I'm a big Brett Farve fan ... Dude I'm making fun of the fact either he can't spell or doesn't know how to pronounce his name...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3126/1000457medium.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/247/1000450medium.jpg


But me a Farve fan .... that's just brilliant... I refuse to even spell his name right in any post...
That's the funniest $hit I've heard all day...


But calling me a farve fan should prove that listening to much you say is pretty worthless... But yea you are such a better than then anyone else here ... we get it...


Edit... fixed for thedave ... no biggy man...

You clearly are not a fan.

Paladin
01-25-2010, 05:52 PM
Seems to me that I saw "Steeledude" or somesuch username make that statement. Going further than that (projecting that opinion on others based on criticisms... valid or not... of a rookie HC and the direction a mediocre team is heading) is nothing more than appointing yourself as the judge over your fellow fans' "fan cards". Why does it seem so important to you to judge others? ???

Well, it's a message borad, you know, and "fans" have the right to express their opinions. Some may seem harshly judgmental. You saying he has to justify his opinion? H3ll, he'll crack 2K in this system......

The MVPlaya
02-04-2010, 07:52 PM
Majority rules.

Hilarious!