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rastaman
01-23-2010, 11:04 PM
Republicans Hate Unions More Than They Hate Terrorists


Even after the failed terrorist attack on Christmas day, Republicans are still blocking the appointment to the head of the Transportation Security Administration because they’re afraid the nominee might unionize the TSA.

An attempt to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day would be all-consuming for the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) — if there were one.

The post remains vacant because Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., has held up President Obama’s nominee in opposition to the prospect of TSA workers joining a labor union.

Source
It makes you wonder why Republicans hate the middle class so much. With unions, employees can demand a living wage. Currently, most airport security workers make about $12 an hour, which is not enough to live on in most cities so many of these workers need to work more than one job to get by. Republicans would rather see another terrorist attack than have workers earn a decent wage.

Republicans have shown they are weak on terrorism and disaster response. Republicans allowed us to be attacked in 2001 after the some 50 warnings. Republicans showed they’re incompetent when it comes to disaster response as demonstrated by their response to Hurricane Katrina. Republicans have shown that they love their party more than they love their country as demonstrated by their reaction to the failed terrorist attack on Christmas. They’d rather use it to try to make Obama look bad than to try to work with Democrats to improve security.

Republicans would like to see our country attacked again because they have convinced a lot of people that they’re the party that can protect us better, even though they’re the party that allowed our country to be attacked in 2001 — the ONLY major attack on the United States civilians in our history.

DBruleU
01-23-2010, 11:34 PM
Where's the link to this?

SPfloppy
01-23-2010, 11:49 PM
Can the TSA unionize? Aren't they a part of a gov agency? I'm in the military and we can't have unions.

JJJ
01-24-2010, 01:47 AM
At least the terrorists admit they are trying to destroy America.

Look at all the unionized industries, these are the ones in trouble in America: auto, steel, tires, educaton, police. Just how many industries need to be brought to their knees before you understand that non-merit based pay systems are the root of the decline of them all?

Then look at the ones that are not: high tech, software, finance, all prospering and globally competitive with the best benefits and pay in the country.

The legislation that founded the TSA specifically forbide unions.

Southers appeared to use lack of judgement to make it an issue before his confirmation and not after when he would have a little leverage. We want people with good judgement in these positions.

cutthemdown
01-24-2010, 02:08 AM
Rasta doesn't get it. If everything was union, everything would be too expensive. We already have to pay way to much for cars so joe union worker with no college can make 70 grand a yr. How about we unionize everything and just make even getting your dry cleaning cost 100 bucks. We will all be rich and make tons of money no matter how menial and unskilled our labor happens to be.

Just like communism sounds good in theory, in practice it doesn't work out.

peacepipe
01-24-2010, 05:07 AM
Rasta doesn't get it. If everything was union, everything would be too expensive. We already have to pay way to much for cars so joe union worker with no college can make 70 grand a yr. How about we unionize everything and just make even getting your dry cleaning cost 100 bucks. We will all be rich and make tons of money no matter how menial and unskilled our labor happens to be.

Just like communism sounds good in theory, in practice it doesn't work out.It would work itself out cause people would make more money as well. where does it say that you have to have a college degree to make 70 grand a year? All trade unions will have a 2-4 yr school program which is accredited through the school system in there given area. For example, all I have to do is go get some of the credits be it english and/or math to have my bacholers(sp) degree in Const. management. Unions provide the same education you will get at a technical school. The only differance being we also give on the job training. Union members start out as apprentices for there first 2-4 yrs learning the job before becomming a journymen. like someone in college working as a intern.

People excersizing there right to unionize isn't communism it's simply american.

peacepipe
01-24-2010, 05:09 AM
Can the TSA unionize? Aren't they a part of a gov agency? I'm in the military and we can't have unions.Yes,It is actually surprising that TSA wasn't already unionized.

mhgaffney
01-24-2010, 05:35 AM
When you start with the assumption that there is not enough to go around -- you end up with a class society -- increasing numbers of have nots and a tiny minority with vastly more than they need for a decent life.

The assumption is basically wrong. But it gets reinforced because of our "fossil" fuel economy.

Once we learn how to tap the ether - and/or download endless amounts of electricity from the ionosphere -- things will change at an amazing speed here on planet earth.

Given an abundance of clean cheap electricity -- we could transform this planet into a garden of abundance -- for almost everyone.

Of course the banksters will fight this vision of peace and prosperity to the bitter end.

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 10:40 AM
Democrats love unions and allow them to diminish regular workers life styles and can't find a terrorist with both hands and with all the intelligence pointing at said terrorist.

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Where's the link to this?



http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/general-political-discussion/41199-republicans-hate-middle-class-labor.html

epicSocialism4tw
01-24-2010, 11:01 AM
The local lefty libfanatic freak platoon is like a parade of old world monkeys.

Rastaman, peacepipe, LA Broncos Fan, Gaffney, w*gs, etc...

Rohirrim, are these the people you want representing your party?

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 11:14 AM
( reading that link) Good god! you are one delusional dude rasta your ideas of how the world should work will hopefully never see the light of day.

DBruleU
01-24-2010, 12:07 PM
( reading that link) Good god! you are one delusional dude rasta your ideas of how the world should work will hopefully never see the light of day.

No-freaking-kidding! My gosh...this guy is nuts. He is absolutely just like LABF. These clowns live their lives on political forums. Sad.

rastaman
01-24-2010, 01:04 PM
( reading that link) Good god! you are one delusional dude rasta your ideas of how the world should work will hopefully never see the light of day.

Bronx, I can't help it if you are a "Fence-Straddling" conservaive-independent-moderate who is in complete denial! You obviously wear many hats.....you fair weather political shill and operative.

Bronx33
01-24-2010, 01:07 PM
yawn

rastaman
01-24-2010, 01:12 PM
No-freaking-kidding! My gosh...this guy is nuts. He is absolutely just like LABF. These clowns live their lives on political forums. Sad.

My Gosh! Surely you don't expect everyone to have your political views! Do you? You are in for a rude awakening Dumb Billy. The mere fact that you are astonished that people are supposed to behave like Dumbed Down conservative-independent Republican't Drones like you and your ilk, definitely leaves allot to be desired. Expand your mind while you still have one our just allow your mind to rot away in your conservative-independent Republican-Esq stupor.

rastaman
01-24-2010, 01:13 PM
yawn

Night-Night....Get your rest Moron.:thumbsup:

rastaman
01-24-2010, 01:23 PM
Democrats love unions and allow them to diminish regular workers life styles and can't find a terrorist with both hands and with all the intelligence pointing at said terrorist.

Republicans favor our foreign competitors, whose auto companies pay them less, far less than American Auto companies pay their employees. I say turn that around by mandating that all American Employees regardless of job description, needs be represented by a Northern based union.

Republicans claim to love “America,’ but appear to hate most Americans. (?????) -I am still trying to figure out what they mean when they say they love America, because they certainly give evidence that they hate the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the environment, so much so that they destroyed 9 of the 10 articles of the Bill of Rights by passing and hailing The Military Commissions Act of 2006, and with the initiation of the Patriot Act most of the Constitution.

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2010, 04:50 PM
Republicans Hate Unions More Than They Hate Terrorists


Even after the failed terrorist attack on Christmas day, Republicans are still blocking the appointment to the head of the Transportation Security Administration because they’re afraid the nominee might unionize the TSA.

An attempt to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day would be all-consuming for the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) — if there were one.

The post remains vacant because Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., has held up President Obama’s nominee in opposition to the prospect of TSA workers joining a labor union.

Source
It makes you wonder why Republicans hate the middle class so much. With unions, employees can demand a living wage. Currently, most airport security workers make about $12 an hour, which is not enough to live on in most cities so many of these workers need to work more than one job to get by. Republicans would rather see another terrorist attack than have workers earn a decent wage.

Republicans have shown they are weak on terrorism and disaster response. Republicans allowed us to be attacked in 2001 after the some 50 warnings. Republicans showed they’re incompetent when it comes to disaster response as demonstrated by their response to Hurricane Katrina. Republicans have shown that they love their party more than they love their country as demonstrated by their reaction to the failed terrorist attack on Christmas. They’d rather use it to try to make Obama look bad than to try to work with Democrats to improve security.

Republicans would like to see our country attacked again because they have convinced a lot of people that they’re the party that can protect us better, even though they’re the party that allowed our country to be attacked in 2001 — the ONLY major attack on the United States civilians in our history.

Rasta, unions are needed, but not in the USA. Where the unions are needed is in countries that exploit labor. Countries like China and India (although I like that India is a proDemocracy country, they do have labor issues) and Indonesia.

That's where the Unions are needed my friend! We don't need unions in the USA where the US already has labor laws and workers rights.

:thumbs:

peacepipe
01-24-2010, 05:22 PM
Rasta, unions are needed, but not in the USA. Where the unions are needed is in countries that exploit labor. Countries like China and India (although I like that India is a proDemocracy country, they do have labor issues) and Indonesia.

That's where the Unions are needed my friend! We don't need unions in the USA where the US already has labor laws and workers rights.

:thumbs:

BS, Unions still set the pay scale for almost every other job out there, look at non union auto plants(toyota,nissan) that pay 27+ an hr. their hourly rate would be 10-12 dollars an hr if it wasn't for unions. Unions not only help union workers but help non union workers by setting a prevailing wage. Statutes & laws are worthless without enforcement.

DBruleU
01-24-2010, 07:07 PM
My Gosh! Surely you don't expect everyone to have your political views! Do you? You are in for a rude awakening Dumb Billy. The mere fact that you are astonished that people are supposed to behave like Dumbed Down conservative-independent Republican't Drones like you and your ilk, definitely leaves allot to be desired. Expand your mind while you still have one our just allow your mind to rot away in your conservative-independent Republican-Esq stupor.

Of course I don't believe everyone should hold my same world view. Not everyone is perfect afterall.

Your replies are weird. I have no idea where you get that I think you should act or think like I do. I think you've just smoked yourself stupid honestly. My point was you and LABF could quite possibly be the same person. Both of you spend an insane amount of time on political forums, and I'm starting to wonder if the two of you met on another board and recruited the other to share in the fun here on the Mane.

Dukes
01-24-2010, 08:18 PM
BS, Unions still set the pay scale for almost every other job out there, look at non union auto plants(toyota,nissan) that pay 27+ an hr. their hourly rate would be 10-12 dollars an hr if it wasn't for unions. Unions not only help union workers but help non union workers by setting a prevailing wage. Statutes & laws are worthless without enforcement.

And they didn't need a bailout. Weird.

Bronco_Beerslug
01-24-2010, 08:38 PM
Democrats love unions and allow them to diminish regular workers life styles and can't find a terrorist with both hands and with all the intelligence pointing at said terrorist.Nominated for stupidest statement of the year. The ignorance that permeates this board is nauseating.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-24-2010, 11:01 PM
The local lefty libfanatic freak platoon is like a parade of old world monkeys.

Rastaman, peacepipe, LA Broncos Fan, Gaffney, w*gs, etc...

Rohirrim, are these the people you want representing your party?


This from a pinhead who spent eight years blowing Bush and who still has the nerve to show his face around here?

Classic! :rofl:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Republicans Hate Unions More Than They Hate Terrorists

True.

Republicans are little more than mindless attack dogs who are trained to go after anyone Big Business defines as the enemy (read: anyone who proposes any sort of accountability or checks/balances for corporate power.)

According to these idiots, corporations should be free to skin or fleece you anyway they can - no matter how inequitable or unethical the means.

http://www.bartcop.com/gop-more-rubble.jpg

Spider
01-25-2010, 07:08 AM
Rasta, unions are needed, but not in the USA. Where the unions are needed is in countries that exploit labor. Countries like China and India (although I like that India is a proDemocracy country, they do have labor issues) and Indonesia.

That's where the Unions are needed my friend! We don't need unions in the USA where the US already has labor laws and workers rights.

:thumbs:
best anti union argument ,while I am pro union , I will concede that unions are not as needed as they was in the 40-50 's .......
Democrats love unions and allow them to diminish regular workers life styles and can't find a terrorist with both hands and with all the intelligence pointing at said terrorist.

Tombstone RJ
01-25-2010, 09:37 AM
If unions could actually function in other countries like China, then the US might have a chance to compete in the manufacturing sector. If the Chinese actually had to pay their workers like $5.00 an hour plus give them health care, plus limit the number of hours they could work... yah, no more cheap stuff from China.

If the US Unions had any kind of balls, they'd start taking their cause to places where labor is actually exploited.

But US Unions will never do that because they don't really care about "workers." What the US unions care about his $ and how much $ the unions can make.

Rohirrim
01-25-2010, 10:21 AM
Yeah, they should go start a union in China. Hilarious!

Tombstone RJ
01-25-2010, 03:34 PM
Yeah, they should go start a union in China. Hilarious!

How about Mexico? My point is still valid: Unions in the US are at best bastions of mediocrity at at worst, criminal.

The unions in the US just want to protect their money and their power base. If they really wanted to help the exploited workers, they'd go where they could do the most good: Latin America, India, Indonesia, etc...

However, just like the defunct Women's movement, they refuse to fight the good fight and go where they are most needed. Instead, they want to bitch and moan about how unjust the US is while at the same time, they buy products made from slave labor overseas... oh, the irony! :rofl:

broncocalijohn
01-25-2010, 03:45 PM
Funny, Democrats love terrorist more than they actually love unions. Hard to believe that but so true. Bashing unions are very easy when they help bankrupt states like California. Prison union guards, over payed teachers (with so no deductible medical insurance-who gets that kind of deal?) in LAUSD and such have helped give unions a bad name. Unions have run most of thier course in many professions.