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Archer81
01-21-2010, 12:04 PM
OK. I am watching this show between classes, and its generally about people telling their stories involving ghosts. Which made me wonder do members of this esteemed board believe in ghosts, or had a situation involving them?

Poll to follow.


:Broncos:

TheDave
01-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Nope...

OBF1
01-21-2010, 12:18 PM
Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well???

bronco militia
01-21-2010, 12:19 PM
I believe their are ghosts and only certain people see them.

WolfpackGuy
01-21-2010, 12:25 PM
Everytime the pass rush gets within 3 feet of Orton he acts like he saw a ghost.

Requiem
01-21-2010, 12:26 PM
Absolutely. This summer I was on a haunted pub crawl in Savannah, Georgia -- perhaps one of America's most "haunted cities." It was a nice night out, rather hot, although it was summer time. At the end of the crawl, we had entered an establishment where there was a long and lengthy history of abuse of slaves during the earlier years of our country. In particular, there was a room upstairs that many had stated that they had been witnesses to paranormal activity in some manner or form.

I decided to go into the room by myself, while the others on the tour just watched me. It was around 90 degrees at that time of the night, and I felt an immense cold throughout my body as I entered the room where dozens of slaves had been persecuted and murdered. I was shivering, freezing and felt like the very life I had inside was being sucked out of me. Numerous noises occurred and I decided to split as soon as they got more prominent and louder. I wasn't really scared for myself, but I knew being in there probably wasn't the right place for me.

There was something real in that room, but it (they) wasn't living. I am a spiritual person and strongly believe in the existence of things in many different forms and transcendent energies. I know many people who have had similar stories. Concepts like ghosts and spirits are universal amongst many human cultures. Some approve of their existence, while there are some of those who have a natural fear of them, such as the Navajo.

Undoubtedly, such things exist. Why they exist is a whole other question, but one worth exploring.

Beantown Bronco
01-21-2010, 01:03 PM
Mrs. Bean keeps telling me that we have ghosts that like to sneak into bed with us and continually fart. Oddly, said ghosts only seem to make an appearance on those nights when she had mexican for dinner.

broncosteven
01-21-2010, 01:04 PM
Absolutely. This summer I was on a haunted pub crawl in Savannah, Georgia -- perhaps one of America's most "haunted cities." It was a nice night out, rather hot, although it was summer time. At the end of the crawl, we had entered an establishment where there was a long and lengthy history of abuse of slaves during the earlier years of our country. In particular, there was a room upstairs that many had stated that they had been witnesses to paranormal activity in some manner or form.

I decided to go into the room by myself, while the others on the tour just watched me. It was around 90 degrees at that time of the night, and I felt an immense cold throughout my body as I entered the room where dozens of slaves had been persecuted and murdered. I was shivering, freezing and felt like the very life I had inside was being sucked out of me. Numerous noises occurred and I decided to split as soon as they got more prominent and louder. I wasn't really scared for myself, but I knew being in there probably wasn't the right place for me.

There was something real in that room, but it (they) wasn't living. I am a spiritual person and strongly believe in the existence of things in many different forms and transcendent energies. I know many people who have had similar stories. Concepts like ghosts and spirits are universal amongst many human cultures. Some approve of their existence, while there are some of those who have a natural fear of them, such as the Navajo.

Undoubtedly, such things exist. Why they exist is a whole other question, but one worth exploring.

Getting cold flash while drinking=ghosts?

For me I want to hope that my spirit lives on and takes flight across the universe after I die, why else is the Universe there if we can only experience 1 little rock.

That said I am cool with it if this is it.

Broncos4tw
01-21-2010, 01:06 PM
I think something exists. Not sure if it's the deceased but non-resolved spirit of a dead person... but I think we don't remotely understand the universe still. The more they feel that parallel dimensions exist, stuff like that becomes far less far-fetched. Whatever it is, I do feel it's fully scientific. All "paranormal" is basically science we don't yet understand, imo.

Also, Ghost Hunters is a huge stupid farce. :)

Pick Six
01-21-2010, 01:07 PM
My wife insistst that her grandmother came to her one night (while she was married to her ex). I tried to tell her it was probably a dream, but she says differently. Who knows????

Popcorn Sutton
01-21-2010, 01:09 PM
Mrs. Bean keeps telling me that we have ghosts that like to sneak into bed with us and continually fart. Oddly, said ghosts only seem to make an appearance on those nights when she had mexican for dinner.

:spit:Hilarious!

Broncos4tw
01-21-2010, 01:25 PM
We don't have farting ghosts, but our cats fart an inordinate amount of the time. And they can throw them... you know, like you can throw a voice.

2KBack
01-21-2010, 01:28 PM
I believe the human mind has the amazing ability to make itself see, hear, even taste things that really aren't there.

That said, I also don't think that our weak human senses have the ability to observe all layers of existance.

Basically, I doubt it, but who knows.

55CrushEm
01-21-2010, 01:31 PM
Mrs. Bean keeps telling me that we have ghosts that like to sneak into bed with us and continually fart. Oddly, said ghosts only seem to make an appearance on those nights when she had mexican for dinner.

Bwahahahaha!!! LOL

Beantown Bronco
01-21-2010, 01:32 PM
I believe the human mind has the amazing ability to make itself see, hear, even taste things that really aren't there.


You've been listening to Bob talk about his girlfriend again, haven't you?

MplsBronco
01-21-2010, 01:32 PM
I think there is another dimension that we don't know/understand and absolutely believe in spirits.

Pony Boy
01-21-2010, 01:34 PM
That's why young eyes shouldn't see Ghostbusters or Thriller !!!!!

bronclvr
01-21-2010, 01:36 PM
I believe there is too much evidence not to at least believe there is some type of "presence"-is it another dimension, or possibly Souls that are stuck or some other endless possibility? Who knows?

My Mother was intrigued with Life after Death and being an educated Woman, took an intellectual interest in it-she was always reading something about it, and I guess that is what interested me. I've been on the Savannah Ghost Tours (there's more than one), to Rose Hall in Jamaica, some in Kansas and, of course, the Stanley Hotel (and others). Can't say that I've experienced a lot, but there is definitely something weird going on at Rose Hall (and, it appears, the Stanley Hotel). There appears to have been some strange things go on at the Island of Poveglia too.

Anyway, it's probably my strangest idiosyncrasy, but it's fun, and you never know what you will see/find in some of these places-

TheReverend
01-21-2010, 01:39 PM
Absolutely. This summer I was on a haunted pub crawl in Savannah, Georgia -- perhaps one of America's most "haunted cities." It was a nice night out, rather hot, although it was summer time. At the end of the crawl, we had entered an establishment where there was a long and lengthy history of abuse of slaves during the earlier years of our country. In particular, there was a room upstairs that many had stated that they had been witnesses to paranormal activity in some manner or form.

I decided to go into the room by myself, while the others on the tour just watched me. It was around 90 degrees at that time of the night, and I felt an immense cold throughout my body as I entered the room where dozens of slaves had been persecuted and murdered. I was shivering, freezing and felt like the very life I had inside was being sucked out of me. Numerous noises occurred and I decided to split as soon as they got more prominent and louder. I wasn't really scared for myself, but I knew being in there probably wasn't the right place for me.

There was something real in that room, but it (they) wasn't living. I am a spiritual person and strongly believe in the existence of things in many different forms and transcendent energies. I know many people who have had similar stories. Concepts like ghosts and spirits are universal amongst many human cultures. Some approve of their existence, while there are some of those who have a natural fear of them, such as the Navajo.

Undoubtedly, such things exist. Why they exist is a whole other question, but one worth exploring.

Exactly.

jhns
01-21-2010, 01:44 PM
No, I don't believe in ghosts. If they do exist, I hope they don't hang out much when I'm alone at home.

SureShot
01-21-2010, 01:47 PM
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TheDave
01-21-2010, 01:48 PM
so let me ask the believers something....

How is it that trauma to the brain (concussions, strokes, dementia, etc.) can cause complete and total memory loss, but in death peoples "Ghost" still has all the knowlege they had in real life?

SureShot
01-21-2010, 01:49 PM
so let me ask the believers something....

How is it that trauma to the brain (concussions, strokes, dementia, etc.) can cause complete and total memory loss, but in death peoples "Ghost" still has all the knowlege they had in real life?

Magic. Duh.

TheDave
01-21-2010, 01:52 PM
Magic. Duh.

My bad... ;D

gtown
01-21-2010, 01:52 PM
I didn't believe in them until I stayed four days at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park a few years ago, which inspired the Shining. Bad dreams, flying orbs of light, and weird sounds galore. I'm never staying there again, suffice it to say.

DBroncos4life
01-21-2010, 02:01 PM
so let me ask the believers something....

How is it that trauma to the brain (concussions, strokes, dementia, etc.) can cause complete and total memory loss, but in death peoples "Ghost" still has all the knowlege they had in real life?
They figure we only use 10% of our brain in life, who is to say that is true when we are dead? Trauma to the 10% part of the brain is a very big deal when that is all you use in life. I'm not saying well when you die you get instant access to the VIP part of your brain I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.

watermock
01-21-2010, 02:17 PM
Of course.

TheDave
01-21-2010, 02:17 PM
They figure we only use 10% of our brain in life, who is to say that is true when we are dead? Trauma to the 10% part of the brain is a very big deal when that is all you use in life. I'm not saying well when you die you get instant access to the VIP part of your brain I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.


I can just about guarantee that you get 0% access to it... especially once it is cremated.

TheReverend
01-21-2010, 02:19 PM
They figure we only use 10% of our brain in life, who is to say that is true when we are dead? Trauma to the 10% part of the brain is a very big deal when that is all you use in life. I'm not saying well when you die you get instant access to the VIP part of your brain I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.

This is extremely interesting. Except for the fact that dead people have zero brain activity...

Chris
01-21-2010, 02:20 PM
I didn't believe in them until I stayed four days at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park a few years ago, which inspired the Shining. Bad dreams, flying orbs of light, and weird sounds galore. I'm never staying there again, suffice it to say.

Are you kidding me man? Tell us more.

watermock
01-21-2010, 02:22 PM
We live in the 4th dimension. Animals 3rd, plants 2nd, earth 1st.

There are 7 dimensions.

Beantown Bronco
01-21-2010, 02:22 PM
This is extremely interesting. Except for the fact that dead people have zero brain activity...

And the Mane is evidence that several living people suffer from that as well. :thanku:

watermock
01-21-2010, 02:29 PM
This is extremely interesting. Except for the fact that dead people have zero brain activity...


Isn't that redunadant?
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Doctors don't reallyknow. I was brain dead then delusional for another 2 months, then vegatable, animal, and as my brain rerouted, almost human.

2KBack
01-21-2010, 02:31 PM
I didn't believe in them until I stayed four days at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park a few years ago, which inspired the Shining. Bad dreams, flying orbs of light, and weird sounds galore. I'm never staying there again, suffice it to say.

Not to call you out, but that is a prime example of the mind creating something simply due to the fact that you are thinking about the potential that this famous place might be haunted.

gtown
01-21-2010, 02:38 PM
Are you kidding me man? Tell us more.

Spent four nights there. Did not sleep a wink. I stayed on the 4th floor which were the servants quarters. I had a dream 3 out 4 nights that I was a slave and that master wanted to "talk" to me. I woke up whimpering each time according to my fiancee.

There are weird sounds all over the place. First, the place is old, so you can hear the hotel settling at all times. Second, because it's a ghost hunters tourist attraction you have fifteen year old's running in the hallways at all hours of the night. But I swore to God I heard something calling my name in the hallway one night - and I don't have a common name.

I saw an orb of light flying around twice while walking through the fourth floor hallway on my first night there. It came up and simply darted past me twice. The first time it happened I didn't think much of it since the hallway is weirdly lit. The second time it happened, I about **** myself. It lingered in front of me before moving on.

My fiance got in on it too. We were parking our car in the parking lot in front of the hotel. We were walking to the building after an all of sudden a large pebble (or small rock) hits my fiance in the back of the head. We both turn around to look and we saw nothing. The funny part is that what was behind us was basically an empty parking lot and a field with no trees. She still has the rock.

All of this might be coincidence, but after a few strange occurrences, you begin doubting your reasoning for something happening.

DBroncos4life
01-21-2010, 02:40 PM
This is extremely interesting. Except for the fact that dead people have zero brain activity...

Well this right there would be a good example of what to say to TheDave's question as well. I suppose it goes with my thoughts about the body and soul. I believe that more is unlocked for us after death than in life. I guess you couldn't call it "brain activity" but I don't think we go on without the process of thought.

bronclvr
01-21-2010, 02:47 PM
Not to call you out, but that is a prime example of the mind creating something simply due to the fact that you are thinking about the potential that this famous place might be haunted.

TAPS has been to the Stanley Hotel twice (once Live), and they recorded (and, I beleive saw) some very strange things-they are objective about what they see. There is definetley something going on there (Scooby Do, where are you?)-

Back when I was playing my Guitar for a living (oh, about a hundred Years ago), I played there for a CSU Prom-I personally didn't see anything there, but the Drummer thought he did (he came back from the Bathroom as white as a Sheet)-

TheDave
01-21-2010, 02:54 PM
TAPS has been to the Stanley Hotel twice (once Live), and they recorded (and, I beleive saw) some very strange things-they are objective about what they see. There is definetley something going on there (Scooby Do, where are you?)-

Back when I was playing my Guitar for a living (oh, about a hundred Years ago), I played there for a CSU Prom-I personally didn't see anything there, but the Drummer thought he did (he came back from the Bathroom as white as a Sheet)-

TAPS... Hilarious!

bronclvr
01-21-2010, 02:55 PM
TAPS... Hilarious!

believe what you will, my friend-

broncocalijohn
01-21-2010, 03:10 PM
I believe the human mind has the amazing ability to make itself see, hear, even taste things that really aren't there.

That said, I also don't think that our weak human senses have the ability to observe all layers of existance.

Basically, I doubt it, but who knows.

Yes but what about matter that is shown leaving a room when someone entered it and all on camera. No one can explain it. It was in a basement/dungeon in a old house where the people knew there were ghostly activity. They enter the room with a camera and it was like white bugs exiting instantly when the light came on. Problem was they werent insects/bugs. Something is going on but I personally havent seen any.

broncocalijohn
01-21-2010, 03:13 PM
Isn't that redunadant?
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Doctors don't reallyknow. I was brain dead then delusional for another 2 months, then vegatable, animal, and as my brain rerouted, almost human.

Dont lie as the delusional part is still going on and it had nothing to do with the PB incident. As for being "almost human", we are waiting for that part to come around.

broncosteven
01-21-2010, 03:19 PM
So does this mean the movie Paranormal Activity is based on a true story?

watermock
01-21-2010, 04:07 PM
Dont lie as the delusional part is still going on and it had nothing to do with the PB incident. As for being "almost human", we are waiting for that part to come around.


Delusional would be one way to put it. I would say it was more going into the "dream world" for an extended amount of time while my brain re-routed, and healed as my body recoved.

It was almost suspeded animation in showtime 3/D. I rember thinking again and again, "no movie is this good", while my mind and body healed.

You have no idea what the visions said however. Unlike dreams they did not leave, and refected many things.

I estimate I was seconds from catastophic heart failure, as I was so pumped full of Epenepherine my BP was 240/170. That's why I have to take 20 BP pills per day.


Anyway, you comments are both ignorant and crass.

As far as food allergies go, I knew I had them in shellshish, but didn't know about peanuts.

Some doctor should of warned me but the were also stresses and other medical concens like the lisopril I was taking could also be allergic.

So siit down, shut up, and hope you die you ignornt prick!

Chris
01-21-2010, 04:19 PM
So does this mean the movie Paranormal Activity is based on a true story?

From the title I would say it's based on the mane.

2KBack
01-21-2010, 04:44 PM
Yes but what about matter that is shown leaving a room when someone entered it and all on camera. No one can explain it. It was in a basement/dungeon in a old house where the people knew there were ghostly activity. They enter the room with a camera and it was like white bugs exiting instantly when the light came on. Problem was they werent insects/bugs. Something is going on but I personally havent seen any.

I can't comment on an occurance that I'm not familiar with, but I find it interesting that people make the sudden jump to ghosts when they can't immediately explain something. I personally find it a kin to ancient man claiming that all natural phenomenon is the work of the gods.

Kid A
01-21-2010, 05:02 PM
so let me ask the believers something....

How is it that trauma to the brain (concussions, strokes, dementia, etc.) can cause complete and total memory loss, but in death peoples "Ghost" still has all the knowlege they had in real life?

Also how do they see without eyes, brains, etc. It's completely a case of people anthropomorphizing their fears.

Same deal with out of body/near-death experiences: people describe looking down at themselves and around the room with the exact same kind of vision we have with our two front facing eyes. Um, if your spirit is looking at the body why are you still seeing in the exact same way you are physically constrained to?

I'd frankly find those stories more believable if they said their out of body/near death experience was indescribable in human experiential terms. It's a dead giveaway that it's all in your head when your experiences as a "non-physical spirit" are all grounded in exactly how the human body interprets the environment (i.e. I saw a bright light in front of me).

watermock
01-21-2010, 05:32 PM
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watermock
01-21-2010, 05:37 PM
It's more than that, there are expiriences of people remembering things noone could know.

broncosteven
01-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Also how do they see without eyes, brains, etc. It's completely a case of people anthropomorphizing their fears.

Same deal with out of body/near-death experiences: people describe looking down at themselves and around the room with the exact same kind of vision we have with our two front facing eyes. Um, if your spirit is looking at the body why are you still seeing in the exact same way you are physically constrained to?

I'd frankly find those stories more believable if they said their out of body/near death experience was indescribable in human experiential terms. It's a dead giveaway that it's all in your head when your experiences as a "non-physical spirit" are all grounded in exactly how the human body interprets the environment (i.e. I saw a bright light in front of me).

Now that you mention it when I was about 6 or 7 years old (we lived in Denver at the time) I had a real bad migraine and I remember having an out of body experience.

We had a Dr that lived down the street and he told my parents the next time I had a real bad headache to call him because he did not believe that Tylenol would work on anyone as fast as my parents claimed it worked on me.

Anyway I remember being in so much pain that when he fianally made it to our house and my parents gave me the adult strength pill that shortly after I took the pill I fell asleep.

I remember wriggling around in intense pain then them giving me the pill and after a few minutes I calmed down and went to sleep but I remember this vision, and the feeling of being outside my body, of my room from the top of the ceiling and remembering their conversation. It has been a long time and I don't remember it as clearly as I used to but I kinda had the feeling of floating and moving around them from high up. Think about the Matrix where you see one angle then zoom in and change to a different angle real fast.

When I woke up and told my parents what happened they brushed it off and said it wasn't possible, stuff I would have told my kid now, but I freaked them out when I told them the conversation they were whispering to each other outside in the hall.

So that is kinda freaky but I didn't die, wasn't close to dying and as far as I know at no time did my soul leave my body.

Harvitz81
01-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Getting cold flash while drinking=ghosts?

For me I want to hope that my spirit lives on and takes flight across the universe after I die, why else is the Universe there if we can only experience 1 little rock.

That said I am cool with it if this is it.

Be happy to know that the atoms that make up your body were formed in stars billions of years ago somewhere across the universe and possibly in the big bang itself.

For me, that is all I need to know that when I die the atoms that make up my body will travel to some new adventure/life and in billions of years when our sun goes supernova and consumes the earth, then the stuff that makes up me will be spread throughout the universe and so on for all time.

That said, Do I believe in Ghosts? Well, I don't believe in Santa, the easter bunny, and other fictional characters ingrained in our society.

Harvitz81
01-21-2010, 06:00 PM
Also how do they see without eyes, brains, etc. It's completely a case of people anthropomorphizing their fears.

Same deal with out of body/near-death experiences: people describe looking down at themselves and around the room with the exact same kind of vision we have with our two front facing eyes. Um, if your spirit is looking at the body why are you still seeing in the exact same way you are physically constrained to?

I'd frankly find those stories more believable if they said their out of body/near death experience was indescribable in human experiential terms. It's a dead giveaway that it's all in your head when your experiences as a "non-physical spirit" are all grounded in exactly how the human body interprets the environment (i.e. I saw a bright light in front of me).

I've had an out of body experience before. Then again it was due to consuming waaaaaayyyyy too much Salvia Divinorum extract (legal in Denver at the time). A part of me literally came apart as I was sitting in a chair and I somehow felt myself separate. I was so glad the experience only lasted about 30 seconds. In reflection, I know it was nothing more than the drug interacting with some receptor in my brain causing new chemistry to occur. The brain is truly an amazing organ and I attribute near-death/out of body experiences to nothing more than strange chemistry occurring in it under extreme circumstances.

Broncochica
01-21-2010, 06:02 PM
TAPS has been to the Stanley Hotel twice (once Live), and they recorded (and, I beleive saw) some very strange things-they are objective about what they see. There is definetley something going on there (Scooby Do, where are you?)-

Back when I was playing my Guitar for a living (oh, about a hundred Years ago), I played there for a CSU Prom-I personally didn't see anything there, but the Drummer thought he did (he came back from the Bathroom as white as a Sheet)-

I believe! And that TAPS episode was scary, my boys & I watch TAPS every week even though CBF1 gives me grief over it! ;D

broncosteven
01-21-2010, 06:38 PM
Be happy to know that the atoms that make up your body were formed in stars billions of years ago somewhere across the universe and possibly in the big bang itself.

For me, that is all I need to know that when I die the atoms that make up my body will travel to some new adventure/life and in billions of years when our sun goes supernova and consumes the earth, then the stuff that makes up me will be spread throughout the universe and so on for all time.

....

We are stardust, we are golden, and we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

I agree with you that we are part of smaller things in this universe that we can consieve of.

TheDave
01-21-2010, 06:40 PM
believe what you will, my friend-

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but "TAPS" has been caught faking things on a few occasions.

DBroncos4life
01-21-2010, 06:43 PM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but "TAPS" has been caught faking things on a few occasions.

speaking of caught faking how is the wife......;)

TheDave
01-21-2010, 06:45 PM
speaking of caught faking how is the wife......;)

Daaaaamn... I'd have something to say if it weren't so damn true. :notworthy

Kid A
01-21-2010, 06:53 PM
I've had an out of body experience before. Then again it was due to consuming waaaaaayyyyy too much Salvia Divinorum extract (legal in Denver at the time). A part of me literally came apart as I was sitting in a chair and I somehow felt myself separate. I was so glad the experience only lasted about 30 seconds. In reflection, I know it was nothing more than the drug interacting with some receptor in my brain causing new chemistry to occur. The brain is truly an amazing organ and I attribute near-death/out of body experiences to nothing more than strange chemistry occurring in it under extreme circumstances.

Yep. Just because it's all chemical reactions doesn't make the range of experiences our brain can go through any less incredible. There might not be a ghost in the machine, but the machine itself is pretty damn cool.

watermock
01-21-2010, 07:00 PM
So as you are.

Broncochica
01-21-2010, 07:01 PM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but "TAPS" has been caught faking things on a few occasions.

Just curious like what? hmmm...

watermock
01-21-2010, 07:06 PM
TAPS is just EVP research.

It has nothing to do with defintition of life or death.

TheDave
01-21-2010, 07:06 PM
Just curious like what? hmmm...



The big one I remember best was the Halloween special a few years ago when a "Ghost" tugged on the little guys jacket.

Someone broke down the tape of it and showed everytime he put his hand in his right pocket the jacket tugged in the exact same way. Then later on after they went through the whole "Wow, did you see that " they froze the clip and you could see the string.

ant1999e
01-21-2010, 07:09 PM
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ant1999e
01-21-2010, 07:11 PM
I love Ghosthunters but this episode ruined it for me. Now you never know what's real and what they are faking.

watermock
01-21-2010, 07:12 PM
http://www.capecodghosthunter.com/Portals/0/orbs.gif.

Broncochica
01-21-2010, 07:13 PM
The big one I remember best was the Halloween special a few years ago when a "Ghost" tugged on the little guys jacket.

Someone broke down the tape of it and showed everytime he put his hand in his right pocket the jacket tugged in the exact same way. Then later on after they went through the whole "Wow, did you see that " they froze the clip and you could see the string.

OMG, that sucks! Those guys seem so believable since they try to debunk almost everything. But what about the EVP recordings? Some stuff is crazy and errie. Yikes!

DBroncos4life
01-21-2010, 07:13 PM
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watermock
01-21-2010, 07:41 PM
EVP is specuative.

Broncochica
01-21-2010, 08:02 PM
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LOL Ha! LOL

Don Flamenco
01-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Delusional would be one way to put it. I would say it was more going into the "dream world" for an extended amount of time while my brain re-routed, and healed as my body recoved.

It was almost suspeded animation in showtime 3/D. I rember thinking again and again, "no movie is this good", while my mind and body healed.

You have no idea what the visions said however. Unlike dreams they did not leave, and refected many things.

I estimate I was seconds from catastophic heart failure, as I was so pumped full of Epenepherine my BP was 240/170. That's why I have to take 20 BP pills per day.


Anyway, you comments are both ignorant and crass.

As far as food allergies go, I knew I had them in shellshish, but didn't know about peanuts.

Some doctor should of warned me but the were also stresses and other medical concens like the lisopril I was taking could also be allergic.

So siit down, shut up, and hope you die you ignornt prick!

So that was the first time you ate peanuts? What about ****atoes? Those are my favorite.

ZONA
01-21-2010, 08:41 PM
I'm spiritual and believe in heaven/hell but no way do I believe ghotsts/souls are walking around the earth with no place to go. I do believe the human mind is very capable of making things seem so real that you almost have to concivnce yourself they are real. For anybody who truly believes in ghosts, I think they really should do themselves a huge favor and look into just how powerful one's mind can be in terms of halucinations and so forth. You might just be surprised at some of the things that people have been tricked into believing is real when it was all in their minds. I mean, all you have to do is look at a sever case of schizophrenia. People actually believe they see animals, humans, etc, telling them to do wierd stuff, even hurt themselves. The brain is quite powerful and I have no doubt that people who believe in ghosts are only psyching themselves out.

watermock
01-21-2010, 08:44 PM
That's fine.

I'm glad you're not allerrgic to potatoes.

**** you.

I would of been fine...

Popps
01-21-2010, 09:07 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bb3TF0T-o60/SxC_B_cxxqI/AAAAAAAABIo/Ce_CFCT1lrw/s640/artbell.jpg

watermock
01-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Arthur W. "Art" Bell, III (born June 17, 1945) is an American broadcaster and author, known primarily as one of the founders and original host of the paranormal-themed radio program Coast to Coast AM.[1] He also created and formerly hosted its companion show, Dreamland. Semi-retired from Coast to Coast AM since 2003, he hosted the show many weekends for the following four years. He announced his retirement from weekend hosting on July 1, 2007, but occasionally "guest hosts." He attributed the reason for this latest retirement to a desire to spend time with his wife and new daughter, born May 30, 2007. He added that unlike his previous "retirements," this one will stand, while leaving open the option to return. Classic Bell-hosted episodes of Coast to Coast AM can be heard in some markets on Saturday nights under the name Somewhere in Time.

Bell founded and was the original owner of Pahrump, Nevada-based radio station, KNYE 95.1 FM. His broadcast studio and transmitter were located at his home in Pahrump while he hosted Coast to Coast AM except from June to December 2006, at which time

watermock
01-21-2010, 09:33 PM
Broadcasting career
Bell's original Las Vegas program was a political call-in talk radio show under the names West Coast AM and Coast to Coast 2000, but he tired of the format, believing there were too many such programs, especially in the wake of Rush Limbaugh's huge success.


Broadcast facilities of KNYE in Pahrump, Nevada.Bell abandoned conventional political talk in favor of topics such as gun control and conspiracy theories, leading to a significant bump in his overnight ratings; however the show's focus shifted significantly after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. Many in the media did not want to be blamed for inciting anti-government or militia actions like the bombing. Subsequently, Bell discussed off-beat topics like the paranormal, the occult, UFOs, protoscience and pseudo-science. During his tenure at KDWN Bell met and married his second wife, Ramona, who later handled production and management duties for the program.

According to The Washington Post in its February 23, 1997 paper: Art Bell was at the time America's highest-rated late-night radio talk show, broadcast on 328 stations. According to The Oregonian in its June 22, 1997 paper, Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell was on 460 stations. At its initial peak in popularity, Coast To Coast AM was syndicated on more than 500 radio stations and claimed 15 million listeners nightly. Bell's studios were located in his home in the town of Pahrump, located in Nye County, Nevada, hence the catchphrase "from the Kingdom of Nye."

A few notable incidents occurred on Bell's show. One night in 1997, Art Bell received a fax from a woman named Jill who requested he clear a line for her boyfriend, whom she claimed was determined to fly a small plane into Area 51. He cleared the "Wild Card Line," took the man's call, which he broadcast on-air. Bell warned that the U.S. government would either try to force him down or shoot him down and warned, "You'd better turn around now." The caller described military jets arriving to intercept him, then taking fire from the ground before shouting "Oh baby, I think I'm going in! Prepare for anything! Whoohoo!" and the line went dead. Bell traded follow-up faxes with the woman, but never heard again from the man. Bell allows that the call may have been a hoax, but many listeners at the time believed it was genuine.[4] Some even believe that, rather than killing the man, the personnel actually had him work for them. In another case, at about 11 p.m. PST, Thursday, September 11, 1997, he designated one phone line for Area 51 employees who wanted to discuss the secretive base. Several callers claimed to work at Area 51, but the bizarre highlight of the night came when a seemingly distraught and terrified man claimed to be a former Area 51 employee recently discharged for "medical" reasons. He cited malevolent extraterrestrials at Area 51 ("extra-dimensional beings" who are not "what they claim to be") and an impending disaster that the government knew would take out "major population centers." Midway through this call, Bell's program went off the air for about 30 minutes. After talking to network engineers, the official explanation was that the network satellite had "lost earth lock" or forgotten where the earth was. Network officials were baffled, and the cause remains a mystery.

[edit] Critical reputation
Fans regard Bell as a master showman, noting that he calls his show "absolute entertainment"[5] and expressly says he does not necessarily accept every guest or caller's claims, but only offers a forum where they will not be openly ridiculed. Bell was one of only a few talk show hosts who do not screen calls, but began screening calls in 2006. On the October 31, 2006 edition of Coast to Coast AM, (renamed for the night to Ghost to Ghost AM), Bell was asked why he was now using call screeners. The explanation given was for him to use unscreened open lines from the Philippines would require listeners to call there directly at enormous cost to them. He subsequently returned to unscreened calls upon his return to the United States.

His calm attitude, patient questions, and ability to tease substance from nebulous statements of callers and guests gave his show a relaxed yet serious atmosphere. This earned him praise from those who declare the paranormal deserves a mature outlet of discussion in the media as well as the approval of those simply amused by the nightly parade of bizarre, typically fringe topics. Ed Dames, Richard C. Hoagland, Terence McKenna, Dannion Brinkley, David John Oates, and Robert Bigelow have all been regular guests. Some of Bell’s regular guests, particularly Hoagland, continue to be regular guests on Coast to Coast AM now hosted by George Noory.

Bell's own interests, however, extend beyond the paranormal. He has interviewed singers Crystal Gayle, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard and Gordon Lightfoot, comedian George Carlin, writer Dean Koontz, hard science fiction writer Greg Bear, TV talk host Regis Philbin, Star Trek actor Leonard Nimoy, actor Dan Aykroyd, former Luftwaffe pilot Bruno Stolle, actress Jane Seymour, actress Ellen Muth, actor and TV host Robert Stack, human rights lawyer John Loftus, legendary disc jockey Casey Kasem and frequent guests physicist Michio Kaku and SETI astronomers Seth Shostak and H. Paul Shuch.

Beginning in late 1996, Bell was criticized for reporting rumors that Hale-Bopp comet was being trailed by a UFO. It was speculated that members of the Heaven's Gate group committed mass suicide based on rumors Bell aired, but others dismissed the idea, noting that the Heaven's Gate website stated: "Whether Hale-Bopp has a "companion" or not is irrelevant from our perspective."[6] Susan Wright notes, however, that Bell was also "one of the first to publicize expert opinions debunking the 'alien companion'" said to have been shadowing Hale-Bopp.[7]

[edit] Political views
Bell chooses not to discuss his political views on Coast to Coast AM, though he has expressed support for gun rights and same-sex marriage.

Bell has dismissed the 9/11 conspiracy theories, having uploaded an image stating "God Bless George W. Bush and the U.S.A." to his website following the September 11 attacks.[citation needed]

Bell is a member of the U.S. Libertarian Party. Originally, Coast to Coast AM was a conservative political talk show, but in recent years Bell has expressed both conservative and liberal views on the air. On air, Bell has shown support for immigration reform, decriminalizing marijuana, and has advocated to stop global warming. Bell has also stated that he opposes abortion, believes the U.S. should finish the job in the war in Iraq, and supports a free market economy.

[edit] Callers and guests
One of Art Bell's Coast to Coast interviews occurred in 1997 with Mel Waters, who discussed what is known as "Mel's Hole" in rural Washington, which is said to be an infinitely deep hole featuring paranormal powers. No such hole has ever been found.
On May 23, 1997 Art interviewed a man who called himself "Victor", who claimed to have been at S-4 (near Area 51), and was responsible for the release to the public of a nearly 3 minute video commonly called the "alien interview". For almost two hours, Victor described the ebe program at S-4, verifying most of Bob Lazar's claims.
J.C. Webster the Third, or "J.C." – J.C. began calling in 1996, and has since been on the air over 50 times. He features himself to be a Revival Baptist preacher, and believes Art to be "the Devil's Mouthpiece." He has continued to call George Noory and guest hosts. Although some have expressed a disbelief that someone like J.C. could exist, Art Bell and George Noory have repeated their beliefs that J.C. is real, and is neither a "put on" nor a "plant."
In the mid to late 1990s, a regular caller named "Fritz" would call in and give his view on various matters.
In the mid to late 1990s, another regular caller known only as "Charlie Liberal" used to call with his perspectives on current events.
In April 1996, Bell received a package of what would be known as "Art's Parts". These parts were allegedly pieces of debris from the 1947 Roswell UFO crash. Extensive analysis of the metals indicated they were made of an odd Bismuth material.
In 1998, Bell spoke with John Titor, a self proclaimed time traveler from 2036 who made all kinds of fantastic predictions and discussed time travel.
In February 2005, Bell received a call from a person calling himself "Oscar" proclaiming to be "the Son of Satan." Oscar had since also called George Noory, but disappeared after a June, 2007 on-air confrontation with J.C.
This incident formed the basis of the song "Faaip de Oiad" by the rock band Tool, which features said interview (with Art Bell's part cut out), over frantic drumming and buzzing static.
Another song featuring this call was "They are not what they claim to be ..." by electronic artist The serenity Vortex (previously known as The Boy Flood). It was featured on the main page of Coast to Coast AM in the listers submission section. This version is more purely musical than Tool's but still has a dark edge to it.
Yet another song featuring the call was "It's Out There and It's Gonna Get You" by experimental Texas-quartet The Paper Chase on their 2006 album Now You Are One Of Us.
Another song "Planetary Duality I : Hideous Revelation" by the Technical Death Metal band The Faceless uses snippets of the call dubbed over an eery and ominous sounding instrumental track.
In 1997 Cusco's Michael Holm, the group’s leader revealed that a song on APURIMAC III - Nature Spirit Pride - Pahrump-Big Water was titled in recognition of Art Bell and Coast to coast [8]
A caller in 2000 named "Daniel Murray" claimed he was a Majestic Agent from Downey, CA.
This call served as the inspiration for the alternate reality game Majestic.[9]
In March 2005 a man also called about disturbing events on Kwajalein and Johnston Atoll about a weapon that only targeted certain people and could leave others unhurt. He indicated he had been on both islands (that are US military only) and that these weapons had been tested in 1993. Art lost the call after another voice came on the line with a click saying "Shelton, terminate the call from A-6." Art tried to call the man back but was unsuccessful.
"Bugs" - Aging farmer who has repeatedly told of his account of shooting and burying two Bigfoot creatures back in the 1970s in the Texas Panhandle, initially thinking they were bears. Bugs has mailed a map of the location of this "burial" to Art Bell, to be released to the public upon Bugs' death. During his first appearance in 1996, Bugs said he had taken a dozen Polaroid photos of the creatures he would be willing to send to Art. None of the alleged photos have yet been made available.
In 2003, Chris Clements, a freelance writer with the Washington Post, called Art Bell to tell him he had evidence of a financial connection between the Bush family and the Bin Laden's. Clements went on further to tell of how his research showed that 9/11 may have been orchestrated by the Bush family and hinted at proof of a coming police state with secret prisons and the chipping of citizens. Clements promised to forward all of his information to Bell but it was reported that Clements died in a suspicious car crash in the weeks after his call.

watermock
01-21-2010, 09:34 PM
Amateur radio
Bell is well known in the world of amateur radio, and holds an Amateur Extra Class License issued by the Federal Communications Commission. He is also well known by his call sign, W6OBB. He and many of his ham friends could be heard nightly on the 80 meter amateur radio band at a frequency of 3840 kHz (before he moved to the Philippines). While there he could occasionally be heard on 3678 kHz via EchoLink. Art Bell has returned to the USA and can be heard on 3830 kHz. Art also runs an online amateur radio stream at Smeter.Net nightly starting from 7:00 PM Pacific time and runs until 3:00 am. You can usually catch him on there around midnight.

[edit] Honors
In 1998, Bell was named as recipient of the less-than-prestigious Snuffed Candle Award. The CSICOP Council for Media Integrity cited Bell "for encouraging credulity, presenting pseudoscience as genuine, and contributing to the public's lack of understanding of the methods of scientific inquiry."

In 2005, the City of Las Vegas renamed a portion of 11th Street in the downtown area "Art Bell Drive."

On March 10, 2007, Bell received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the trade publication Radio & Records in Los Angeles.

In July 2008, it was announced that Art Bell would be inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. The ceremony took place on November 8, 2008, in Chicago.

[edit] Marriages
Sachiko Toguchi Bell Pontius, divorced. Children: Vincent Pontius, Lisa Pontius Minei.[10]
Sukiyaki Sakamoto Kyo Bell, divorced. Children: Art "Scooter" Bell IV.
Vickie L. Baker, married March 1, 1981, divorced, July 3, 1991. Children: Arthur William Bell
Ramona Lee Hayes, August 4, 1991 – January 5, 2006 † (see below)
Airyn Ruiz, April 11, 2006 – present. Children: Asia Rayne Bell
[edit] Retirements and comebacks
Bell has retired and returned to Coast to Coast AM several times.

Retirement: His first retirement, highly unexpected, was announced on October 13, 1998. Bell: I told you that there was an event, a threatening terrible event occurred to my family, which I could not tell you about. Because of that event, and a succession of other events, what you're listening to right now is my final broadcast on the air. Coast To Coast AM is broadcast on more than 400 stations and is the country's most listened to overnight radio show, heard by some 15 million listeners. (That from "The Seattle Times" 10-13-98.) Hilly Rose filled in after Bell's departure.

Return: He returned on October 28, 1998. Bell asserted that the brief departure was brought on by threats made against his family. On May 29, 1999, Art Bell explained that this retirement was due to an allegation made by hosts of WWCR shortwave radio that Bell had paid to cover up a criminal indictment. (Announcement date from "The Washington Post" 5-29-99, where Bell's show was said to be on 460 stations.)
The actual facts of the matter became public knowledge with Art Bell's second retirement in 2000, when it was revealed that an actual criminal indictment was filed against a person who had assaulted a member of Bell's family. Due to the nature of the crime, Bell had wanted to keep the matter private. The hosts at WWCR shortwave radio had accused Bell of the crime. (Bell took legal action against the hosts and stations, which was settled in 2000.[11])
Retirement: On April 1, 2000, Bell once again announced to his audience his retirement, which would occur on April 26, 2000 (that from "The Washington Post" 4-1-00), but he offered no details other than expressing intentions to "resolve a family crisis." On April 11, 2000, Mike Siegel was introduced as the new host of Coast To Coast AM. On April 27, 2000, Siegel took over the program which at the this time had an estimated 22 million listeners. (That from "The Seattle Times" 4-12-00.) It was later explained he had left to deal with the aftermath of a sexual assault against his son. Brian Lepley, a substitute teacher, was convicted of sexual assault and attempted transmission of HIV and was sentenced to 10 to 25 years.[12]

Return: On January 24, 2001, it was announced (in Vancouver, Washington's "The Columbian" newspaper), Art Bell would return to Coast To Coast AM on February 5, 2001. Bell noted that since his departure the show had lost a number of affiliates, commercial content had risen to an unbearable level, and Siegel had taken the program in a "different direction" of which Bell disapproved. He retained some authority over the program as its creator and thus felt his return was necessary.
Retirement: On October 23, 2002, Bell announced he would be retiring because recurring back pain (the result of a fall from a telephone pole during his youth) forced yet another departure, and Bell was permanently replaced by George Noory as weekday host of Coast to Coast AM on January 1, 2003. It was also said that Barbara Simpson would host weekends and that Bell planned to be an occasional guest host for Noory. (Most information from "The Seattle Times" 10-26-02.)

Return: Bell again on September 23, 2003, announced (in Vancouver, Washington's "The Columbian" newspaper) would return as a weekend host on September 27, 2003, having missed the microphone, this time replacing Barbara Simpson and Ian Punnett as host of the Saturday and Sunday evening broadcasts. In June 2005, he scaled this schedule back a bit (a "semiretirement"), deciding to host only the last two Sundays of every month. Bell went back to hosting every weekend show as his schedule permitted after his wife Ramona’s death a few months later.
Retirement: on July 1, 2007, Bell announced his retirement again, stating that he wished to spend more time with his wife and daughter. He made it explicitly clear that, unlike the circumstances surrounding previous retirements, this one was an entirely positive and joyful decision and that he would not disappear completely—he would occasionally substitute for other hosts and host "special" shows. According to George Noory, Bell is on board to do 15 shows per year. Art Bell confirmed this fact in a post on the Fantastic Forum fan site.

[edit] Events of 2006
Bell's life took some dramatic twists in the beginning of 2006:

[edit] Death of Ramona Bell
Ramona Bell, his wife of 15 years, died unexpectedly,[13] at the age of 47, of what appeared to be an acute asthma attack on January 5, 2006 in Laughlin, Nevada, where the couple was taking a short vacation.

The events surrounding Ramona's death were described in great detail by Art Bell during the January 22 broadcast of Coast to Coast AM. For weeks thereafter, callers would express their sadness and sympathy for Art Bell to George Noory, who had taken Art Bell's place weekdays in 2002.[14]

[edit] Change in schedule
On January 21, 2006, just days after the unexpected death of his wife Ramona, Bell announced he would host Coast to Coast AM every Saturday and Sunday evening, and that former weekend host Ian Punnett would work a new live prefeed program for the four hours preceding Bell's slot on Saturday nights (9:00pm – 1:00am ET). Punnett's show was titled Coast to Coast Live with Ian Punnett. When returning to the show the following day, Bell spent the first hour recounting the death of his wife.

[edit] Remarriage
By the end of January, Bell began hinting that he was making a significant life decision, but that he would keep it a secret for at least one year, asking listeners to remind him in 2007 to let them in on it. By March, he was saying that he would soon take a "huge risk" and "do something rash." On April 15, 2006, he ended the mystery and, to the mild surprise of listeners, revealed that, after several weeks of mourning, he had recently gone to the Philippines and married Airyn Ruiz,[15] whose name is pronounced like the name "Irene," but Art likes to pronounce her name as "Arin." This is because during their Internet dating Art imprinted the spelling of her name with that pronunciation. Airyn Ruiz Bell is a recent college graduate. Ruiz — given Bell's private e-mail address by an amateur radio friend—had contacted Bell to offer condolences shortly after Ramona's death. After "dating" via Internet video conferencing for "hundreds of hours," the two married one week after Bell arrived in the Philippines to actually meet her in person . Bell also paid for his friend—who was courting Airyn's sister—to accompany him to the Philippines and marry her. The two couples wed in a double marriage ceremony on April 11, 2006.

On October 7, 2006, Bell announced on Coast to Coast that Ruiz was pregnant with the couple's first child. Art told listeners that the couple's child was indeed a girl as many listeners suspected. He noted that they had been hoping for a girl and had announced only a girl's name for their unborn child in hopes of receiving a girl.

Art and Airyn's baby girl, Asia Rayne Bell, was born on May 30, 2007.

[edit] Relocation to the Philippines
At the same time, Bell announced he would be leaving his longtime homestead in Nevada and relocating to the Philippines, near Makati, Metro Manila, intending to continue hosting Coast to Coast AM weekend editions via an ISDN connection. He departed the United States on April 29, 2006, stating an intention to remain abroad for at least a year, while maintaining ownership of his property in Nevada and of the radio station KNYE. Bell resumed hosting on June 18, 2006 but then encountered technical problems that kept him off air until July 23, 2006, when the ISDN line was finally installed.

In July 2001, the Philippine Daily Inquirer printed an email letter purportedly from Bell that made derogatory statements about Filipinos. This letter was subsequently demonstrated to be a hoax perpetrated upon Bell, who in fact had a publicly loving relationship with his Filipina wife and his previous wife Ramona, who was also Filipina, and who often spoke openly about his admiration for the Filipino people on his radio show. Subsequently, the Philippine Daily Inquirer printed a retraction and apologized for printing the statement upon their verification of the hoax. This slander against Bell's good name still periodically results in serious threats to him when this material surfaces from time to time.[16] On February 19, 2009 the Manila Times apologized and retracted when a columnist mistakenly reprinted the hoax two days before; one email the paper received attributed the original slander to a Filipino-American student at San Jose State University during the 1990s.[17]

In October 2006, Bell threatened Rogers Cadenhead with a lawsuit for some allegedly libelous comments posted on Cadenhead's blog, which Cadenhead has said he will defend himself against under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.[18]

[edit] Return to "the High Desert and the Great American Southwest"
Truly bringing his personal events of 2006 full circle, Bell opened his December 28 program by disclosing to his stunned listeners that he had just relocated back to Pahrump, Nevada, with Ruiz, who had obtained the necessary paperwork for immigrating to the United States. Bell had not disclosed on any previous show his plans to return to the High Desert. Despite feeling jet-lagged after a 15-hour flight from the Philippines via Vancouver, British Columbia, he did the full show. Bell was aloft returning to the States when an earthquake cut off undersea cables that would have prevented his broadcasts from the Philippines. Bell indicated on his December 30, 2006 show that among the reasons for his return were a recent recirculation of the infamous fake anti-Filipino email,[19] and his homesickness for his elaborate stateside Amateur Radio station.

[edit] Events of 2007
On May 30, 2007, at 12:51 pm PDT, daughter Asia Rayne Bell was Born.

On July 1, 2007 at 10:10 pm PDT, Art Bell announced his retirement from regular hosting effective that day, expressing a desire to spend more time with his family. Bell stated that he will only host occasionally on Coast to Coast.

[edit] Events of 2008
On May 23, 2008, Bell, while hosting Coast to Coast AM, stated that there would be a change in the artbell.com Web site in July 2008. Within a few weeks the Web site was no longer responding to requests and has even dropped from DNS.

On June 12, 2008, Bell sold KNYE to Station Manager Karen Jackson for $600,000.[20][21]

On September 8, 2008, Noory stated that he would be hosting the annual Ghost to Ghost AM Halloween call-in show rather than Bell, who normally returns to the Coast to Coast to host it (along with the New Year's prediction shows). On September 19, Noory explained that Bell would be unavailable due to being on a cruise during that time this year.

On November 30, 2008, Bell hosted Coast to Coast AM. Michio Kaku was the guest. This was the first time Bell had hosted the show since May 23, 2008.[22] On December 23, Bell's mother, Jane, died. George Noory informed Coast to Coast listeners of her passing during that night's show, with a number of callers offering Bell their condolences regarding the passing of Bell's mother.

On December 30 and 31, 2008, Bell once again hosted his annual New Year's predictions special of Coast to Coast. Bell remarked on his mother's passing and stated that he was very happy that she got to spend time with his daughter, Asia, before she passed on.

[edit] Events of 2009
Art Bell Returned to Coast to Coast AM on February 20, 2009, for a discussion on the global financial crisis with Wall St. insider Michael J. Panzner. Bell and Panzer agreed the United States was headed for an economic depression.

Art Bell was scheduled to return to Coast to Coast AM on April 24, 2009 to host an evening of open lines, but due to engineering problems in Manila, Art was rescheduled to a later date.[23]

On May 17, 2009, Bell returned to host Coast to Coast AM live from Manila. His guest was Professor Peter Ward. Topics of discussion were mass extinctions, earth's "self-destructive" phenomena, and life beyond planet earth. While on the air, Art answered an email question from a listener who asked why he was in the Philippines again and how long he'd be there. Art replied that he'd address it on "Friday" and hinted that his move might be permanent.

As of May 20, 2009, the Coast to Coast website listed that Art Bell would be filling in for George Noory on Friday, May 22, 2009 to interview Dr. Bob Koontz. However, Art Bell did not do that show. The Coast to Coast website, again, cited technical difficulties in Manila and that his interview would be postponed. Bell interviewed Koontz on Saturday, June 6, 2009.

Friday June 26, 2009 Art Bell hosted Coast to Coast AM from Manila with guest Dr. Dean Radin. He also commented on the death of Michael Jackson and how he had lived in Pahrump, Nevada not too far away from where Art lived.

Friday November 20, 2009 Art Bell hosted Coast to Coast AM from Manila with guest Starfire Tor, psi researcher and experiencer who discussed time shifts and time slips, and other strange occurrences of time. During the first 90 minutes, they were joined by Whitley Strieber, who shared his take on Tor's research.[24]

On Wednesday, December 30 and Thursday, December 31, 2009, Bell once again hosted his annual New Year's predictions special of Coast to Coast, noting that a number of the predictions this year were of an unusual and interesting nature and not mere repeats of many that had come before, though he also took several callers to task for seemingly veiling their obvious political agendas or wishes in the form of predictions, rather than offering up something from their "psychic center", which is what he repeatedly asks for during the prediction show. He also suggested that maybe Coast To Coast AM should institute some sort of prize or acknowledgment for listeners whose predictions are particularly accurate or astute.

[edit] Immigration Controversy
In late 2008, Bell filed an I-751 with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service in order to get his wife a green card. In early 2009 the USCIS responded that they would need additional evidence to prove that Bell's marriage to a Filipina national and subsequent green card application therefore was in good faith. Bell responded with evidence including their marriage license, their daughter's birth certificate, Bell's last will and testament, bank records, family photos, and Social Security forms. Bell sent the package to the USCIS by return receipt mail, and he subsequently received the return receipt stamped "USCIS RECEIVED JAN-15-09."

On March 10, 2009, Bell and his wife and daughter left Nevada for Manila to deal with some family business including the disposition of a condo they owned. Shortly thereafter, the USCIS denied the application on the grounds that the documentary evidence was never received, and further stipulated that Airyn Bell is not permitted to re-enter the United States, which is why Bell remains in the Philippines. Moreover, since the Bells were out of the country when the application was denied, they must start the process all over again.[25]

On his June 6 broadcast, Bell explained the situation and asked his listeners to send emails on his behalf to the White House.

George Noory has announced that he heard from Art and that the immigration controversy is over, and that Airyn has been granted permanent residency.[citation needed]

[edit] Books
Bell has written, or co-written, several books. They include The Quickening: Today's Trends, Tomorrow's World; The Art of Talk (an autobiography); The Source; The Edge: Man's Mysterious Past & Incredible Future; and The Coming Global Superstorm, which became the basis for the popular movie, The Day After Tomorrow.

[edit] Other work
In 1996 Bell appeared in an episode of the NBC

SureShot
01-21-2010, 09:35 PM
Beezer sees dead people.

Broncos4tw
01-21-2010, 09:40 PM
TAPS are lying idiots, fleecing folks who watch the show. They do the study of the paranormal a disservice. How anyone could believe the tripe they serve up baffles me. I watched maybe have a dozen shows, and after many obvious fakes, I stopped. It's laughable and pathetic.

When I was a kid, my parents purchased a home for less than 20k. Big house to, with a huge back yard, three stories, big winding wooden staircase, etc. They were flat-out told it was this cheap because it was haunted. They got a chuckle out of that and bought it happily. We moved back out within 6 months, they sold it for about what they bought it, just so we could get out, it was that freaky. I was young, but I still vividly remember a few incident there, that at least make me believe there is something to the phenomena. Like I said.. not sure if it's dead people roaming around, or something else entirely, but I don't think it's utter tripe either. Something happens in some places.

watermock
01-21-2010, 09:53 PM
C2C throws much out there.

It's never sold as an absoute truth.

nor are their commercials...

watermock
01-21-2010, 09:58 PM
TAPS is proven to be at most, false.

So what?

Crop Circles are too?

Br0nc0Buster
01-21-2010, 10:06 PM
no, ghosts arent real

just stories like the Lockness monster and bigfoot

The ghosthunter stuff cracks me up though
One guy was trying to "taunt" a ghost by making fun of it

Los Broncos
01-21-2010, 10:39 PM
EVP is very interesting, pretty freaky hearing those voices.

Archer81
01-21-2010, 11:04 PM
I voted yes in my poll, but I dont believe in ghosts like the haunting in Conneticutt. I think in places where something horrible happens, it leaves an impression energy wise. Like if you go to a concentration camp in Europe, it can be summer but feel cold when you walk the grounds. That might be purely mind-driven because we know what happened there so we project that it feels chilly. Its pure speculation, but it remains a possibility in my opinion.

:Broncos:

slyinky
01-21-2010, 11:25 PM
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Lev Vyvanse
01-22-2010, 04:55 AM
We live in the 4th dimension. Animals 3rd, plants 2nd, earth 1st.

There are 7 dimensions.

I've seen you post this twice now. So WTF? Space has three dimensions + time how are plants and aniamals not living in a 4th dimension?

Harvitz81
01-22-2010, 06:37 AM
I'm spiritual and believe in heaven/hell but no way do I believe ghotsts/souls are walking around the earth with no place to go. I do believe the human mind is very capable of making things seem so real that you almost have to concivnce yourself they are real. For anybody who truly believes in ghosts, I think they really should do themselves a huge favor and look into just how powerful one's mind can be in terms of halucinations and so forth. You might just be surprised at some of the things that people have been tricked into believing is real when it was all in their minds. I mean, all you have to do is look at a sever case of schizophrenia. People actually believe they see animals, humans, etc, telling them to do wierd stuff, even hurt themselves. The brain is quite powerful and I have no doubt that people who believe in ghosts are only psyching themselves out.

Oh the irony with your bolded and underlined statements.

Broncos_OTM
01-22-2010, 06:59 AM
Just a couple of weeks ago i was in the kitchen sink thawing out some chicken. When i looked over at my dog. She started barking and growling. and a bowl came off the table. this all happened within split seconds. My dog likes to poke things with her nose. So i didnt think much of it at the time. but recalling just a few hours later. I did not hear any chair slide accross the floor. which leads me to believe that she didn't move the bowl. The table is heavy really heavy, so i know she couldnt have moved the table.

Probably last week i was downstairs all alone. And i heard a crash so loud, Scared the **** out of me. I ran upstairs to see what was going on not seeing anything i looked out in the garage. My new ****ing dirtbike was on its side. There was NO way the bike fell over i have it up on a stand. it would have taken a very hearty push to knock it over. LOL i started yelling at the thin air F You. The garage door was down so i know wind didnt knock it over. I cant explain it. i know the lady who sold the house husband had died i dont know if he died in the house or what not.

So i dont know if i believe em or not. But if they are real and i see it i am gonna sock it straight in the nose.

TheDave
01-22-2010, 07:01 AM
So i dont know if i believe em or not. But if they are real and i see it i am gonna sock it straight in the nose.

Do ghosts have a nose?

houghtam
01-22-2010, 07:05 AM
But...if I believe in ghosts...it will completely invalidate everything I read in the Bible!

Broncos_OTM
01-22-2010, 07:06 AM
I'm spiritual and believe in heaven/hell but no way do I believe ghotsts/souls are walking around the earth with no place to go. I do believe the human mind is very capable of making things seem so real that you almost have to concivnce yourself they are real. For anybody who truly believes in ghosts, I think they really should do themselves a huge favor and look into just how powerful one's mind can be in terms of halucinations and so forth. You might just be surprised at some of the things that people have been tricked into believing is real when it was all in their minds. I mean, all you have to do is look at a sever case of schizophrenia. People actually believe they see animals, humans, etc, telling them to do wierd stuff, even hurt themselves. The brain is quite powerful and I have no doubt that people who believe in ghosts are only psyching themselves out.

I have a good buddy is skitzo. Ill go over to his house dude covers all his windows sits in dark rooms and smokes. cracks me up every time i see him doing it. I know as a young guy he ate parts of a dead human. He was telling me about a guy he did time with that was skitzo cut off his mother in laws and wifes heads threw em in a microwave to get the evil spirtis out of em. when he is on his meds hes pretty cool. When he is off them wowsers.

Broncos_OTM
01-22-2010, 07:08 AM
Do ghosts have a nose?

What i really wanna know is. Do the hottie Ghosts have big boobs :wiggle:

TheDave
01-22-2010, 07:20 AM
What i really wanna know is. Do the hottie Ghosts have big boobs :wiggle:

Good point... :thumbsup: