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SoCalBronco
01-20-2010, 09:54 PM
I've found that these are alot better bang for your buck than the gym. I've been working every other day on sets of pushups, pullups, chinups, squats and planks and I like what I'm seeing so far. Going to get into burpees pretty soon.

Anyone else prefer bodyweight stuff?

Jason in LA
01-21-2010, 09:37 AM
I had this routine that was all body weight exercises. It was based on the workouts that the actors in the movie 300 used. They used weights in their program, but they used a lot of body weight exercises. The routine was doing different exercises with a very limited rest period. My rest period was only 15 seconds. I would do pull ups, then one leg squats, then push ups, then lunges, then sit ups, then hanging knee raises, and then box jumps. After I did a set I'd take a minute break and then start over. I'd do three sets and it was really tough. My body would be exhausted but I'd have to keep going. I'd do that workout three times a week and I'd run three times a week.

As far as bang for your buck, I totally agree, because that program was free. I'd go to a park in the mornings and I'd use the back of the baseball bleachers for a pull up bar. For the box jumps I'd jump on the bleachers.

It also felt really rewarding. It was kind of funny, but remember in Rocky 4, when the Russia was doing his workouts in a state of the art gym while Rocky was out in the snow and in the woods toughing it out? That's kind of how I felt. Well, without the snow lol. It just felt like I was doing something tougher. It's not cold in LA, but in the winter, early in the morning it's pretty cold and I was out there with my shirt off knocking out reps. I'd see a lot of the same people who did their workouts in the morning at the park and they seemed impressed with what I was doing. Especially when I did pull ups. I had built up to sets of 20. A lot of people who were working out had trainers, and they didn't seem to be doing anything hard (a lot of them looked like soccer moms who had money to burn on a trainer, but didn't really want to do much training.) Every now and then some guys would walk up to me and ask me about my workout program.

I did that for a few months before I went back to weights. Even with weights I like to cut costs. I've been working with just a weight bench and adjustable dumbbells, which I can put up to 70 lbs on each of them. I recently bought a pull up bar that goes in the doorway. All that cost me less than $200 and I don't have to pay monthly fees. There is no excuse for me to skip a workout. I don't have to go anywhere or wait in lines. Working out at the park was similar. I'd drop my son off at school and the park was on the way home, so there was no reason to miss a workout. And I wouldn't have to wait in line. The workout took at the park took 30 minutes total (including warm up time).

tsiguy96
01-21-2010, 12:15 PM
they are ok for awhile, but eventually resistance needs to be added in some form or you will stop making gains on anything but muscular endurance. if thats your goal, good, but if your goal is getting bigger or stronger, you need additional weight added in whatever form you do it.

Requiem
01-21-2010, 12:31 PM
Does this include pounding the meat? If so, Bobo has got to be 100 pounds by now.

Jason in LA
01-21-2010, 01:14 PM
they are ok for awhile, but eventually resistance needs to be added in some form or you will stop making gains on anything but muscular endurance. if thats your goal, good, but if your goal is getting bigger or stronger, you need additional weight added in whatever form you do it.

I agree. Resistance can be added by doing slower reps, but at some point it's better to hit the free weights. I did my body weight program for about three months before switching back.

Now, if a person just wants to be in good shape, but not really trying to look like a body builder or get all big, then I'd say that body weight workouts are just fine.

tsiguy96
01-21-2010, 08:05 PM
I agree. Resistance can be added by doing slower reps, but at some point it's better to hit the free weights. I did my body weight program for about three months before switching back.

Now, if a person just wants to be in good shape, but not really trying to look like a body builder or get all big, then I'd say that body weight workouts are just fine.

slower reps isnt extra resistance its just doing slower reps, theyll burn more. but yea to get in better shape you dont need weights, they certainly help and are a lot more fun though :egbgb:

loborugger
01-22-2010, 06:18 PM
I've found that these are alot better bang for your buck than the gym. I've been working every other day on sets of pushups, pullups, chinups, squats and planks and I like what I'm seeing so far. Going to get into burpees pretty soon.

Anyone else prefer bodyweight stuff?

Uggghhh, burpees. I think the body weight stuff is definitely underrated and a good part of any work out program. If you dont have access to a gym, its a lot better than nothing.

The other day, the crossfit WOD was 100 burpee pull ups. Do the burpees under a pull up bar and transistion to a pull up as you come up. Took me a while but I got it done.

Pony Boy
01-22-2010, 09:57 PM
Does this include pounding the meat? If so, Bobo has got to be 100 pounds by now.

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tsiguy96
01-23-2010, 08:20 AM
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Ha!:spit:

elsid13
01-23-2010, 10:04 AM
Uggghhh, burpees. I think the body weight stuff is definitely underrated and a good part of any work out program. If you dont have access to a gym, its a lot better than nothing.

The other day, the crossfit WOD was 100 burpee pull ups. Do the burpees under a pull up bar and transistion to a pull up as you come up. Took me a while but I got it done.

I hated GI Jane, but not as bad as the walk on the hands 100 yards, HSPU, one.

azbroncfan
01-23-2010, 10:42 AM
Do push ups, pull ups, planks, situps, squats and get your lazy ass in the pool/running for 5 miles and you will see more results than any gym can provide.

tsiguy96
01-23-2010, 11:59 AM
Do push ups, pull ups, planks, situps, squats and get your lazy ass in the pool/running for 5 miles and you will see more results than any gym can provide.

thats true, unless you actually know what you are doing in the gym, in which case its not true.

loborugger
01-23-2010, 01:59 PM
I hated GI Jane, but not as bad as the walk on the hands 100 yards, HSPU, one.

GI Jane?

elsid13
01-23-2010, 02:08 PM
GI Jane?

That what they call the 100 Burpee pull-ups. It like the rest of the "girls" in crossfit.

azbroncfan
01-24-2010, 09:35 AM
thats true, unless you actually know what you are doing in the gym, in which case its not true.

Except your total level of fitness isn't near as good. I would love to see the big steriod filled meat heads do a triathalon or try to swin even a 1/4 in open water. Complex lifts are the way to go and they work multiple muscles and increase your strength which means adding muscle. You see most guys in the gym doing Lat pulldowns on the cable machines because they aren't strong enough to do actual pullups using their own body wieght. If you could do just three exercises squats, pullups and pushups would smoke anything you can do in the gym.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 11:31 AM
Except your total level of fitness isn't near as good. I would love to see the big steriod filled meat heads do a triathalon or try to swin even a 1/4 in open water. Complex lifts are the way to go and they work multiple muscles and increase your strength which means adding muscle. You see most guys in the gym doing Lat pulldowns on the cable machines because they aren't strong enough to do actual pullups using their own body wieght. If you could do just three exercises squats, pullups and pushups would smoke anything you can do in the gym.

i have my degree in exercise physiology (well, will in 3.5 months), thanks though :D

you need increased resistance at some point in order to continue to adapt, hence the purpose of periodization in programming. doing tons of pullups and pushups stops becoming effective, and doing bodyweight squats are pointless unless you are doing parallel single leg. steroid filled meat heads, as you put it, dont try to swim a 1/4 in open water, thats not their goal, their goal is to get big. just because its not the same goal as yours doesnt mean its wrong.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 11:36 AM
btw i think its funny that you think everyone who enters a gym instead of just doing bodyweight **** all the time is a steroid filled meathead.

400HZ
01-24-2010, 11:40 AM
Except your total level of fitness isn't near as good. I would love to see the big steriod filled meat heads do a triathalon or try to swin even a 1/4 in open water. Complex lifts are the way to go and they work multiple muscles and increase your strength which means adding muscle. You see most guys in the gym doing Lat pulldowns on the cable machines because they aren't strong enough to do actual pullups using their own body wieght. If you could do just three exercises squats, pullups and pushups would smoke anything you can do in the gym.

"Total level of fitness" is a subjective term that skinny guys bring up a lot. I've done marathons at 205 pounds and I've done them at 240 with the same body fat. Basic physiology dictates that it's going to be easier at 205. You're carrying around less weight and your heart doesn't need to supply blood to as much muscle tissue. That doesn't mean that you are at a better or worse "fitness level." A 240 pound guy is doing more work, burning more calories, storing more glycogen, etc.

Three exercises are never going to smoke anything you can do in the gym. Developing muscles requires using them in different ways.

azbroncfan
01-24-2010, 11:49 AM
i have my degree in exercise physiology (well, will in 3.5 months), thanks though :D

you need increased resistance at some point in order to continue to adapt, hence the purpose of periodization in programming. doing tons of pullups and pushups stops becoming effective, and doing bodyweight squats are pointless unless you are doing parallel single leg. steroid filled meat heads, as you put it, dont try to swim a 1/4 in open water, thats not their goal, their goal is to get big. just because its not the same goal as yours doesnt mean its wrong.

I realize you need to fill out your affliction/ed hardy shirts but it is funny when the meat heads get older and see the effects of all that muscle mass. It has to go somewhere and that is why you always see fat 40 year old exmeatheads trying to get it back. Nothing wrong with it though as we the world needs a way for people to die off quicker and when these guys start dropping like fly's in their 50's we will all know why.

As far as squats yeah I don't do body wieght squats but full classic squats on the old fashioned squat rack. I laugh when the meat heads put 10 plates on each side of the rack and do a set of 6 reps where they move it 4 inches and scream and yell at top of their lungs. I know damn well they couldn't do a third of that on a straight bar and doing a full squat which builds much more than just your legs.

400HZ
01-24-2010, 12:07 PM
I realize you need to fill out your affliction/ed hardy shirts but it is funny when the meat heads get older and see the effects of all that muscle mass. It has to go somewhere and that is why you always see fat 40 year old exmeatheads trying to get it back. Nothing wrong with it though as we the world needs a way for people to die off quicker and when these guys start dropping like fly's in their 50's we will all know why.

As far as squats yeah I don't do body wieght squats but full classic squats on the old fashioned squat rack. I laugh when the meat heads put 10 plates on each side of the rack and do a set of 6 reps where they move it 4 inches and scream and yell at top of their lungs. I know damn well they couldn't do a third of that on a straight bar and doing a full squat which builds much more than just your legs.

Ha!

Do you get bullied a lot or something?

azbroncfan
01-24-2010, 12:29 PM
Ha!

Do you get bullied a lot or something?

No not at all. Just live in steriod capital of the US in Scottsdale and get tired of these affliction wearing sheep that think they are the coolest tools around.

Harvitz81
01-24-2010, 02:17 PM
I realize you need to fill out your affliction/ed hardy shirts but it is funny when the meat heads get older and see the effects of all that muscle mass. It has to go somewhere and that is why you always see fat 40 year old exmeatheads trying to get it back. Nothing wrong with it though as we the world needs a way for people to die off quicker and when these guys start dropping like fly's in their 50's we will all know why.

As far as squats yeah I don't do body wieght squats but full classic squats on the old fashioned squat rack. I laugh when the meat heads put 10 plates on each side of the rack and do a set of 6 reps where they move it 4 inches and scream and yell at top of their lungs. I know damn well they couldn't do a third of that on a straight bar and doing a full squat which builds much more than just your legs.


Muscle cannot turn into fat just as fat cannot be transformed into muscle. Muscle and fat are two separate and distinct types of tissues. You have the same amount of muscle tissue now as you were born with. You can make your muscles bigger through resistance training or if you discontinue to work out then your muscles can atrophy and fat cells can fill in the space where the muscle size was, giving the appearance that your muscle has turned to fat.

tsiguy96
01-24-2010, 02:23 PM
I realize you need to fill out your affliction/ed hardy shirts but it is funny when the meat heads get older and see the effects of all that muscle mass. It has to go somewhere and that is why you always see fat 40 year old exmeatheads trying to get it back. Nothing wrong with it though as we the world needs a way for people to die off quicker and when these guys start dropping like fly's in their 50's we will all know why.

As far as squats yeah I don't do body wieght squats but full classic squats on the old fashioned squat rack. I laugh when the meat heads put 10 plates on each side of the rack and do a set of 6 reps where they move it 4 inches and scream and yell at top of their lungs. I know damn well they couldn't do a third of that on a straight bar and doing a full squat which builds much more than just your legs.

why do you keep referring to meatheads? is that your perception of everyone who goes to gym? you realize there are people who are actually educated on how to lift and properly execute different lifts right? or that those same meatheads who do 4 inch squats may just be powerlifters working on their lockout?

there is so much you dont know about lifting its alarming

azbroncfan
01-25-2010, 07:52 AM
why do you keep referring to meatheads is that your perception of everyone who goes to gym??
No because I there are a lot of people including myself that go to the gym but don't roid it up. you realize there are people who are actually educated on how to lift and properly execute different lifts right?Obviously yes it isn't that hard to learn what is right and what isn't and what lifts are a waste of time.
or that those same meatheads who do 4 inch squats may just be powerlifters working on their lockout?They could be but then again I would expect them to more than continual back and forth 4 inch at the most reps.
there is so much you dont know about lifting its alarming
It's not rocket science here bud, anyone can read some books and come up with their own training plan that they think is the best. I tend to think that including cardio along with wieght/circuit/bodywieght exercises is the best way. But then again I am not looking to fillout my ed hardy and affliction shirts like most of the guys are. Didn't you make a thread once asking if those shirts were cool?

tsiguy96
01-25-2010, 06:33 PM
It's not rocket science here bud, anyone can read some books and come up with their own training plan that they think is the best. I tend to think that including cardio along with wieght/circuit/bodywieght exercises is the best way. But then again I am not looking to fillout my ed hardy and affliction shirts like most of the guys are. Didn't you make a thread once asking if those shirts were cool?

so what you "tend to think" is teh right way, and what everyone else wants to do is the wrong way, regardless of what their goals are. got it :thumbsup:

Ray Finkle
01-25-2010, 07:27 PM
I've found that these are alot better bang for your buck than the gym. I've been working every other day on sets of pushups, pullups, chinups, squats and planks and I like what I'm seeing so far. Going to get into burpees pretty soon.

Anyone else prefer bodyweight stuff?

Hey Girlie Man....no wait, that's Crosby.

Look into Seal Training video's. I bought a bunch of them when Mira was born since I knew I wouldn't be able to hit the gym as much. All you need is a pull up bar and a few chairs to do dips. It is all body weight and will rip you up.

The hardest one is the actual Seal Recruit daily morning training video....

azbroncfan
01-25-2010, 11:06 PM
so what you "tend to think" is teh right way, and what everyone else wants to do is the wrong way, regardless of what their goals are. got it :thumbsup:

Yes as far as getting in shape and getting results I think my methods work better than just going to the gym. Is it the right way? Yes Is it the only way? Hell no There are more than one way to skin a cat. Tri training is some of the best around and I have done the gyms, well still do, but have found mixing running, biking, swimming with the lifting of basic complex lifts is much more productive for me. Each of their own though and like I said I would love to see the steriod filled meatheads that litter the gyms to be tested in some form of endurance competition.

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 06:19 AM
Yes as far as getting in shape and getting results I think my methods work better than just going to the gym. Is it the right way? Yes Is it the only way? Hell no There are more than one way to skin a cat. Tri training is some of the best around and I have done the gyms, well still do, but have found mixing running, biking, swimming with the lifting of basic complex lifts is much more productive for me. Each of their own though and like I said I would love to see the steriod filled meatheads that litter the gyms to be tested in some form of endurance competition.

and id love to see you enter a bodybuilding or powerlifting competition. again, you dont seem to realize taht different people have different goals and thus their training will be different, and that not everyone is a steroid filled meathead.

you cant possibly be this dumb...

azbroncfan
01-26-2010, 10:36 AM
and id love to see you enter a bodybuilding or powerlifting competition. again, you dont seem to realize taht different people have different goals and thus their training will be different, and that not everyone is a steroid filled meathead.

you cant possibly be this dumb...

Why would I? That would have no long term health benefits and the fact that I have to pass a physical every year or I am out of a job keeps my motivation high. I have no desire to be big and bulky and just want to stay in shape and want my working out to give me benefits in other activities I do such as mountaineering, hiking, hunting, skiing, golfing, etc. I used to go for the bulky look when I was younger but it doesn't fit my lifestyle anymore. Is it wrong? No but the original poster was looking for results and yes running, swimming, and basic complex lifts will give you more results in less time if you don't have the time to spend hours in the gym. Like I said before each to their own though and keep bulking up so you can fill out your sweet affliction shirts.

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 10:52 AM
Why would I? That would have no long term health benefits and the fact that I have to pass a physical every year or I am out of a job keeps my motivation high. I have no desire to be big and bulky and just want to stay in shape and want my working out to give me benefits in other activities I do such as mountaineering, hiking, hunting, skiing, golfing, etc. I used to go for the bulky look when I was younger but it doesn't fit my lifestyle anymore. Is it wrong? No but the original poster was looking for results and yes running, swimming, and basic complex lifts will give you more results in less time if you don't have the time to spend hours in the gym. Like I said before each to their own though and keep bulking up so you can fill out your sweet affliction shirts.

increased lean muscle mass and increased strength have no long term health benefits? okkkkk then.

just because you dont have the desire to do those things doesnt mean others dont either, and thus for you to say they are wrong for wanting to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter is pretty ignorant.

400HZ
01-26-2010, 11:06 AM
Why would I? That would have no long term health benefits and the fact that I have to pass a physical every year or I am out of a job keeps my motivation high. I have no desire to be big and bulky and just want to stay in shape and want my working out to give me benefits in other activities I do such as mountaineering, hiking, hunting, skiing, golfing, etc. I used to go for the bulky look when I was younger but it doesn't fit my lifestyle anymore. Is it wrong? No but the original poster was looking for results and yes running, swimming, and basic complex lifts will give you more results in less time if you don't have the time to spend hours in the gym. Like I said before each to their own though and keep bulking up so you can fill out your sweet affliction shirts.

If you really care about fitness then you should probably brush up on your basic physiology and fitness theory since you clearly don't know much about any of it. Throwing out all the inane insults doesn't disguise that fact.

Nice touch with the death wish. Sorry you got picked on.

400HZ
01-26-2010, 11:09 AM
increased lean muscle mass and increased strength have no long term health benefits? okkkkk then.

just because you dont have the desire to do those things doesnt mean others dont either, and thus for you to say they are wrong for wanting to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter is pretty ignorant.

Duh, that's why athletes never lift weights.

azbroncfan
01-26-2010, 11:12 AM
Nice touch with the death wish. Sorry you got picked on.

You will see just like we are seeing a lot of 70's football players die way to young for steriod use you will start seeing a lot of guys passing away way too young for the steriod use that has been up over the past few years. Each to their own they know the effects of using them.

azbroncfan
01-26-2010, 11:23 AM
increased lean muscle mass and increased strength have no long term health benefits? okkkkk then.

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Where did I say that? Are you going to tell me running and swimming doesn't put muscle mass on you? Are you going to tell me that it doesn't strenthen your heart? Again I go to the gym along with running, biking, stairs and swimming which I will stand behind and say is better than just going to the gym. Yes it is not good if you just want to bulk up and are going for the meathead look. Again whatever floats your boat and makes you happy. There are more than one way to skin a cat and there is absolutely nothing wrong with body wieght exercises. It is not rocket science learning how to lift, eat right and get in shape.

400HZ
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
You will see just like we are seeing a lot of 70's football players die way to young for steriod use you will start seeing a lot of guys passing away way too young for the steriod use that has been up over the past few years. Each to their own they know the effects of using them.

You are the only person here to mention steroids. And just because a guy has big muscles doesn't mean that he juices. It probably means that he does exercises beyond squats and push ups, which despite what you may be trying to tell people, are only a small piece of a well designed workout plan.

I don't use steroids. I like the way my balls look.

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 05:04 PM
You are the only person here to mention steroids. And just because a guy has big muscles doesn't mean that he juices. It probably means that he does exercises beyond squats and push ups, which despite what you may be trying to tell people, are only a small piece of a well designed workout plan.

I don't use steroids. I like the way my balls look.

i think its safe to give up now. he knows everything! what do i know?

Baba Booey
08-26-2010, 07:04 PM
I've found that these are alot better bang for your buck than the gym. I've been working every other day on sets of pushups, pullups, chinups, squats and planks and I like what I'm seeing so far. Going to get into burpees pretty soon.

Anyone else prefer bodyweight stuff?

Bumping this and the weight loss forum cause I want to get my fat ass in shape after college.

How did the body weight stuff work out for you, SoCal?