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Bronco Rob
01-17-2010, 06:44 PM
Paige: Broncos Expect 8-8 season


By Woody Paige
The Denver Post
Posted: 01/17/2010 01:00:00 AM MST



Josh McDaniels does not read The Denver Post, but Mark Thewes, Dr. Watson to the head coach, will, as usual, tell McD what this column proclaims today, and he won't like it. No shot, Sherlock.

The Broncos will finish 8-8 in 2010.

Same as 2009 and 2008.

And the Broncos' record over five seasons will be 40 up, 40 down.

In 2K10 the Broncos will play their first regular-season game on foreign soil.

The Broncos also will play six games against this season's playoff teams. In a reversal of 2009, they will win at home against the usual AFC West suspects and lose to the three on the road. The Broncos will end up 6-2 in Denver, beating, also, Houston (and Rick Dennison), Seattle and St. Louis. They will fall at The Big IF @Mile High to Indianapolis and the New York Jets.

The Broncos will prevail in the neutral-site game over there over the 49ers. But the road will be long and winding with defeats in Jacksonville, Tennessee and Baltimore, but a victory in Arizona.

However, the most important upcoming Grudge Match mark it on your calendar is in 2013 when the Broncos host the Redskins.

Guess who's coming back?

A beaming Mike Shanahan walked up and said hello at his new restaurant the other night. He had agreed to coach in Washington.

The Mastermind/Master Chef looked tanned, rested and ready.

(Shanny would be tan if he spent the past year in Antarctica marching with the penguins.)

He also is rested after a season away from football and ready to return somewhere else. He could have taken over the Redskins last spring, but chose to utilize his sabbatical to study player and coaching personnel, bring his offensive philosophies up to date (by visiting Bill Belichick oddly and Urban Meyer), spend time with his wife, Peggy, improve his golf game in Colorado, Mexico and Nevada and move into his new house.

Now he's putting together a staff, including Broncos running backs assistant Bobby Turner as his associate coach, son Kyle as his offensive coordinator, longtime NFL head coach Jim Haslett as his defensive coordinator and Lou Spanos (late of the Steelers) as linebackers coach. They could be joined by former Broncos assistants Steve Watson, Pat McPherson and Bob Slowik, and Shanahan will retrain three to four Washington assistants.

Shanahan will switch the Redskins' defense to a 3-4, jettison Clint Portis, sign a free-agent running back and a veteran backup quarterback (Jeff Garcia) and select with the fourth overall pick in the draft a quarterback (Jimmy Clausen or Sam Bradford) or an offensive tackle (Russell Okung or Trent Williams).

A recent question in The Post sports section asked which coach would win the Super Bowl first McDaniels or Shanahan? The responses overwhelming favored Shana- han (which probably was more of an indictment of McDaniels).

Neither coach will get to XLV. The Redskins, who beat the Broncos this season, will have a 2010 schedule more difficult than the Broncos' featuring the three NFC East teams twice each (two reached the postseason) and games against the Packers, Vikings and Colts and a road game in Chicago (hello, Jay).

Shanahan could win eight games, but he won't have to return to England. He was the offensive coordinator with the 1987 Broncos, who played their first exhibition in a foreign country in London's old


Wembley Stadium (since replaced). I have followed them to six foreign countries.

The most intriguing games were: 1992, the Broncos lost to the Dolphins in Berlin's Olympic Stadium (site of the 1936 Olympics), kid QB Tommy Maddox started his first game against Dan Marino, and I sat in Hitler's luxury box; 1995, John Elway vs. Joe Montana, briefly, Tokyo's Eggdome; 1997, Elway tore his right biceps in Mexico City, and the immediate fear was he would never play again, but he no longer was in pain, and the Broncos went on to win their first Super Bowl; 1999, the Broncos and the Chargers played in the first (and only) American football game in Sydney's newly opened Stadia Olympic.

The closest most of the Broncos have gotten to England would be fish and chips. Cornerback Andre Goodman played for the Dolphins at new Wembley in 2007, but safety Renaldo Hill, also with Miami then, was placed on injured reserve the week of the game with a knee injury.

The Broncos should visit the London Dungeon attraction the night before Halloween to see Jack The Ripper, Sweeney Todd and The Great Fire.

Let's hope that Halloween isn't as frightful for the Broncos as five of their six other Oct. 31 games including a 45-10 drubbing by the Jets in 1965 and a 55-23 defeat at Indianapolis in 1988, or as scary as another game against San Francisco 55-10 in Super Bowl XXIV.

The Bangers-and-Mash Clash will be a curious incident. And the 2010 season will be peculiar for the Broncos, McDaniels and Shanahan, my dear Thewes.



http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14208449

loborugger
01-17-2010, 06:45 PM
Thats fine - I expected a 3 and 13 season last year and was happily surprised.

The MVPlaya
01-17-2010, 06:50 PM
Woody Paige? HA.

Gob
01-17-2010, 06:54 PM
McDaniels will find a way to lower expectations during the offseason again so everyone says "8-8? He should get coach of the year!"

orinjkrush
01-17-2010, 06:55 PM
i expected 6-10. my hopes were raised at 6-0. i am disappointed we went 2-8 at the end.

i believe we will go 10-6 next year, god willing and the draft goes well.

Popps
01-17-2010, 06:57 PM
Woody said we'd go undefeated the year the wheels came off.

tsiguy96
01-17-2010, 06:57 PM
woody is a retard. he said 3 wins last year. by taht logic, add 5 wins, 13 wins this year!

NYBronco
01-17-2010, 07:03 PM
I think Woody really misses Shanahan more the anyone else. It's like Bowlen and McD flushed his life down the toilet.

broncos-rock
01-17-2010, 07:03 PM
woody needs to stay off the alcohol!!

gyldenlove
01-17-2010, 07:21 PM
Isn't it a little premature to predict next year? according to tradition we will be replacing anywhere between 30 and 50% of the roster as well as several coaching positions.

The MVPlaya
01-17-2010, 07:22 PM
mcdaniels will find a way to lower expectations during the offseason again so everyone says "8-8? He should get coach of the year!"
wtf???

orinjkrush
01-17-2010, 07:47 PM
Isn't it a little premature to predict next year? according to tradition we will be replacing anywhere between 30 and 50% of the roster as well as several coaching positions.

yep good point. am an optimist i guess

Gob
01-17-2010, 08:04 PM
wtf???

What are we "wtf"ing about? That expectations for 2009 lowered somewhere between McDaniels hiring and the beginning of the season, or that McDaniels had something to do with it, or something else?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-17-2010, 08:10 PM
What are we "wtf"ing about? That expectations for 2009 lowered somewhere between McDaniels hiring and the beginning of the season, or that McDaniels had something to do with it, or something else?

He probably wants to know wtf you think you're fooling with your "I'm a new poster!" routine.

bronco militia
01-17-2010, 08:18 PM
I expected and 8-8 season and got one in 2009

it sucked

HAT
01-17-2010, 08:22 PM
He probably wants to know wtf you think you're fooling with your "I'm a new poster!" routine.

Too funny.

I'll give BF7 credit for at least making up his ghost before he accepted our bet. (But after I offered it)

That at least shows a little creativity. Problem is, his opinions and biases show right through.

Wonder if Taco can do an IP check. They out ghosts all the time on another vbulletin board I post at using IP checks so I know it's possible with the software.

Gob
01-17-2010, 08:26 PM
He probably wants to know wtf you think you're fooling with your "I'm a new poster!" routine.

Aside from having a new account, what routine did I put up?

Taco John
01-17-2010, 08:31 PM
Wonder if Taco can do an IP check. They out ghosts all the time on another vbulletin board I post at using IP checks so I know it's possible with the software.


It's a fresh IP address, new to our database.

Gob
01-17-2010, 08:32 PM
Too funny.

I'll give BF7 credit for at least making up his ghost before he accepted our bet. (But after I offered it)

That at least shows a little creativity. Problem is, his opinions and biases show right through.

Wonder if Taco can do an IP check. They out ghosts all the time on another vbulletin board I post at using IP checks so I know it's possible with the software.

Seriously? Come on now, my opinions and biases are much more sophisticated then that.

HAT
01-17-2010, 08:36 PM
It's a fresh IP address, new to our database.

Fair enough then. :thumbs:

HAT
01-17-2010, 08:38 PM
Seriously? Come on now, my opinions and biases are much more sophisticated then that.

Well....If you are BF7, I've got one simple request:

Can you post your picks for the championship games next week? Hilarious!

Gob
01-17-2010, 08:48 PM
Well....If you are BF7, I've got one simple request:

Can you post your picks for the championship games next week? Hilarious!

Doesn't he just take the favorites every time? If so, I will go with the Colts and the Saints.

NFLBRONCO
01-17-2010, 08:50 PM
I expected and 8-8 season and got one in 2009

it sucked

FAG Expect 8-8 again until lines and qb is upgraded.

tsiguy96
01-17-2010, 08:55 PM
FAG Expect 8-8 again until lines and qb is upgraded.

not sure why you felt the need to call him a fag. 8-8 did suck but it could definitely be worse in a young HCs first year.

you got it right as far as the lines go, they need to be upgraded on both sides before anything else.

bronco militia
01-17-2010, 09:30 PM
not sure why you felt the need to call him a fag. 8-8 did suck but it could definitely be worse in a young HCs first year.

you got it right as far as the lines go, they need to be upgraded on both sides before anything else.

it's a inside joke plus he's a jealous queen Ha!

NFLBRONCO
01-17-2010, 10:04 PM
not sure why you felt the need to call him a fag. 8-8 did suck but it could definitely be worse in a young HCs first year.

you got it right as far as the lines go, they need to be upgraded on both sides before anything else.

BM is a cool dude I'm just screwing around he knows it.

I'm cool with the 8-8 thing just feel for us to take another leap we will need to bolster lines upgrade qb and add more speed on O. I think it will take a few years to get it done.

NFLBRONCO
01-17-2010, 10:06 PM
it's a inside joke plus he's a jealous queen Ha!

Hilarious!


Guess what my rep is in tact I predicted Vikes to lose and SD to win in a blowout I'm never right damn crystal ball.

OBF1
01-17-2010, 10:16 PM
If you read paige still, you deserve to be a bitter idiot.

NFLBRONCO
01-17-2010, 10:21 PM
If we truly upgrade lines only and everything else is the same how many more wins could this team win?

Atwater His Ass
01-17-2010, 11:55 PM
sad time to be a bronco fan with so many fans happy not only about going 8-8 this year, but thinking it acceptable to do so next year as well.

ZONA
01-17-2010, 11:59 PM
I think Woody really misses Shanahan more the anyone else. It's like Bowlen and McD flushed his life down the toilet.

This is the perfect chance for him to high tail it out of Denver and go write columns in DC. Oh how I wish.

BroncoBuff
01-18-2010, 01:33 AM
If we truly upgrade lines only and everything else is the same how many more wins could this team win?

"Everything else" can't be the same ... we lose a huge chunk of the offense with Marshall leaving. Those numbers will have to be replaced somehow.

But I do agree we need a good solid guard and a good solid NT ... those two plus a #1 WR are absolute must-haves. We have the money to spend, let's hope we land another FA class like this one.


Thats fine - I expected a 3 and 13 season last year and was happily surprised.

Yeah, 8-8 would've been a decent thought before the season started. It's the arc of that record that's so troubling.

Rohirrim
01-18-2010, 02:15 AM
Woody is a fool. Hopefully, after the Post folds, he can move to Washington and continue his worship of Shanahan, every year proclaiming 16 and 0, like he's been doing here for years. What an idiot. I'm glad Kiffin stuck it to the Vols with fans like Woodrow.

NFLBRONCO
01-18-2010, 09:06 AM
"Everything else" can't be the same ... we lose a huge chunk of the offense with Marshall leaving. Those numbers will have to be replaced somehow.

But I do agree we need a good solid guard and a good solid NT ... those two plus a #1 WR are absolute must-haves. We have the money to spend, let's hope we land another FA class like this one.




Yeah, 8-8 would've been a decent thought before the season started. It's the arc of that record that's so troubling.

Denvers biggest needs (Not in order)

1. NT
2. QB
3. G
4. G
5. C
6. #1 and #2 WR move Royal to slot
7. S
8. CB
9. Speed RB
10. LB
11. DE

TailgateNut
01-18-2010, 09:11 AM
Paige: Broncos Expect 8-8 season


By Woody Paige
The Denver Post
Posted: 01/17/2010 01:00:00 AM MST



Josh McDaniels does not read The Denver Post, but Mark Thewes, Dr. Watson to the head coach, will, as usual, tell McD what this column proclaims today, and he won't like it. No shot, Sherlock.

The Broncos will finish 8-8 in 2010.

Same as 2009 and 2008.

And the Broncos' record over five seasons will be 40 up, 40 down.

In 2K10 the Broncos will play their first regular-season game on foreign soil.

The Broncos also will play six games against this season's playoff teams. In a reversal of 2009, they will win at home against the usual AFC West suspects and lose to the three on the road. The Broncos will end up 6-2 in Denver, beating, also, Houston (and Rick Dennison), Seattle and St. Louis. They will fall at The Big IF @Mile High to Indianapolis and the New York Jets.

The Broncos will prevail in the neutral-site game over there over the 49ers. But the road will be long and winding with defeats in Jacksonville, Tennessee and Baltimore, but a victory in Arizona.

However, the most important upcoming Grudge Match mark it on your calendar is in 2013 when the Broncos host the Redskins.

Guess who's coming back?

A beaming Mike Shanahan walked up and said hello at his new restaurant the other night. He had agreed to coach in Washington.

The Mastermind/Master Chef looked tanned, rested and ready.

(Shanny would be tan if he spent the past year in Antarctica marching with the penguins.)

He also is rested after a season away from football and ready to return somewhere else. He could have taken over the Redskins last spring, but chose to utilize his sabbatical to study player and coaching personnel, bring his offensive philosophies up to date (by visiting Bill Belichick oddly and Urban Meyer), spend time with his wife, Peggy, improve his golf game in Colorado, Mexico and Nevada and move into his new house.

Now he's putting together a staff, including Broncos running backs assistant Bobby Turner as his associate coach, son Kyle as his offensive coordinator, longtime NFL head coach Jim Haslett as his defensive coordinator and Lou Spanos (late of the Steelers) as linebackers coach. They could be joined by former Broncos assistants Steve Watson, Pat McPherson and Bob Slowik, and Shanahan will retrain three to four Washington assistants.

Shanahan will switch the Redskins' defense to a 3-4, jettison Clint Portis, sign a free-agent running back and a veteran backup quarterback (Jeff Garcia) and select with the fourth overall pick in the draft a quarterback (Jimmy Clausen or Sam Bradford) or an offensive tackle (Russell Okung or Trent Williams).

A recent question in The Post sports section asked which coach would win the Super Bowl first McDaniels or Shanahan? The responses overwhelming favored Shana- han (which probably was more of an indictment of McDaniels).

Neither coach will get to XLV. The Redskins, who beat the Broncos this season, will have a 2010 schedule more difficult than the Broncos' featuring the three NFC East teams twice each (two reached the postseason) and games against the Packers, Vikings and Colts and a road game in Chicago (hello, Jay).

Shanahan could win eight games, but he won't have to return to England. He was the offensive coordinator with the 1987 Broncos, who played their first exhibition in a foreign country in London's old


Wembley Stadium (since replaced). I have followed them to six foreign countries.

The most intriguing games were: 1992, the Broncos lost to the Dolphins in Berlin's Olympic Stadium (site of the 1936 Olympics), kid QB Tommy Maddox started his first game against Dan Marino, and I sat in Hitler's luxury box; 1995, John Elway vs. Joe Montana, briefly, Tokyo's Eggdome; 1997, Elway tore his right biceps in Mexico City, and the immediate fear was he would never play again, but he no longer was in pain, and the Broncos went on to win their first Super Bowl; 1999, the Broncos and the Chargers played in the first (and only) American football game in Sydney's newly opened Stadia Olympic.

The closest most of the Broncos have gotten to England would be fish and chips. Cornerback Andre Goodman played for the Dolphins at new Wembley in 2007, but safety Renaldo Hill, also with Miami then, was placed on injured reserve the week of the game with a knee injury.

The Broncos should visit the London Dungeon attraction the night before Halloween to see Jack The Ripper, Sweeney Todd and The Great Fire.

Let's hope that Halloween isn't as frightful for the Broncos as five of their six other Oct. 31 games including a 45-10 drubbing by the Jets in 1965 and a 55-23 defeat at Indianapolis in 1988, or as scary as another game against San Francisco 55-10 in Super Bowl XXIV.

The Bangers-and-Mash Clash will be a curious incident. And the 2010 season will be peculiar for the Broncos, McDaniels and Shanahan, my dear Thewes.



http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14208449


Woody is such a ****ing tool. What was his prediction for the last season?? 2 wins!

He should become a palm reader. :spit:

Ziggy
01-18-2010, 09:16 AM
Woody is showing his true colors. He's hated the Broncos since Shanahan left. Now he's predicting 8-8 before the offseason even begins. He doesn't even care who we bring in in free agency and the draft. It makes no difference to him. He's going to hate regardless.

TailgateNut
01-18-2010, 09:17 AM
Woody is showing his true colors. He's hated the Broncos since Shanahan left. Now he's predicting 8-8 before the offseason even begins. He doesn't even care who we bring in in free agency and the draft. It makes no difference to him. He's going to hate regardless.


Woody is a bandwagon columnist. He'll bitch about a particular person/team one day and suck their ass the next.

Tombstone RJ
01-18-2010, 10:58 AM
At least Woody can still talk about Shanahan... he may not like the new Broncos but he now has Broncos East and Shanny to focus on for the foreseeable future.

You see, Woody didn't write this column about the Broncos, he wrote the column about the Skins and Shanny. However, he needed to masquarade his writing as a "Broncos" piece because yah know, he writes in Denver for the Denver Post.

Broncos4tw
01-18-2010, 12:14 PM
Won't win a SB imo, without a new QB. If we actually want to win the thing, we should really focus on a QB first. That is our biggest need. Can't win the big game without a franchise QB... or an awesome defense. And while I am no prophet, I think I can guess we won't be tops in defense next year either. : p

Baba Booey
01-18-2010, 12:33 PM
Woody is a professional troll.