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TheDave
01-14-2010, 07:36 AM
Anyone have any insight as to who we will be looking at tho replace these two?

If rumors are true and Bowlen requested that both Turner & Dennison be retained last year, I suppose that means McD had his eye on a few other candidates.

Were there any rumors who might of coached these positions from last year?

gyldenlove
01-14-2010, 07:40 AM
I would guess a RB coach from the SEC and an O-line coach from the Big 10. I have no idea who though.

Pseudofool
01-14-2010, 07:45 AM
Lane Kiffin?

strafen
01-14-2010, 07:52 AM
Maybe some coaches from his dad's highschool team in Ohio.
That will be my guess...

TheDave
01-14-2010, 07:54 AM
This list is a little over a year old so it might be outdated but here are some names for RB...

Cale Gundy, Oklahoma, As a former Sooners quarterback, Gundy has done pretty well for himself. Entering his 10th year at OU, Gundy has coached a Heisman finalist (Adrian Peterson, 1,925 yards in 2004) and won a national championship in which undersized Quentin Griffin helped OU. Two years later, Griffin ran for 1,884 yards. The next sensations are sophomore DeMarco Murray, who ran for 764 yards and 13 touchdowns as a freshman, and junior Chris Brown (611 yards). How do they do it? Ball security is one reason. In 2001, OU backs didn't fumble after the third game. They didn't lose a fumble in 2002. In 2003, they lost only two fumbles. Gundy has helped produce a 1,000-yard rusher four years in a row. Not bad resume fodder.

Eddie Gran, Auburn: We'll see how Gran does with Auburn switching to a spread offense but somehow we sense he'll succeed. In the Tigers' old hammerin' ground game, Gran produced all-SEC backs Carnell Williams, Kenny Irons, Rudi Johnson and Ronnie Brown.

Fred Jackson, Michigan: The only Lloyd Carr assistant retained by Rich Rodriguez -- technically Jackson was rehired a day after being fired -- the 17-year veteran at Michigan has coached five all-Big Ten running backs and success should continue. Rodriguez ran a power running game out of his spread option at West Virginia.

Todd McNair, USC: In McNair's second season, Reggie Bush won the Heisman. That same year (2004) LenDale White helped form the first pair of 1,000-yard USC rushers in a season. USC began the 2007 season with one of the deepest stable of tailbacks ever.

Andre Powell, Clemson: Tommy Bowden knew what he was doing when he hired Powell in 2007. The veteran assistant had coached future NFL backs Tiki Barber, Thomas Jones and Willie Parker. When he got to Clemson, he inherited C.J. Spiller and James Davis.

John Settle, Wisconsin: Do Wisconsin running backs make the coach or do the coaches make the running backs? Along with his position coach, P.J. Hill goes into this third year in Wisconsin. With almost 2,800 yards in two seasons, Hill is the next great Badgers runner.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/10862359

meangene
01-14-2010, 07:56 AM
The Denver Post indicated this morning that Josh's brother, Ben, would get strong consideration for the running backs coach position.

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14184384

TheDave
01-14-2010, 08:00 AM
Same as Above but for OLine...

Pat Ruel, USC: Some guys just aren't meant to be head coaches.
Some guys are meant to coach at eight colleges.
And for four NFL teams.
Some guys play for Miami.
Way before it was a dynasty.
Some guys are meant to sleep in tents during training camp.
That's why not all guys can be Pat Ruel.
There's only one, and as the 57-year-old gets ready to start his fourth season at USC, we should all be jealous. His offensive lines are annually NFL Draft choices in waiting. His recruiting abilities stretch far beyond his position. The guy can't help it. Everyone he meets turns into a friend and everything he touches turns to ... well, there is a reason his given name is Golden Pat Ruel.
Or, the more informal: Golden Ruel.
It's an old family name. In college football, it's a household name. Three years ago, Pete Carroll needed an offensive line coach. Not surprisingly, he settled on Ruel. USC would seem like a no-brainer for a career assistant, but Ruel was building quite a resume in the NFL. Carroll had to lure Ruel away from the New York Giants.
Carroll worked all the angles. The two had been assistants together at Arkansas in 1977. USC's coach used picturesque Manhattan Beach to his advantage, taking his recruit to lunch there on a sun-splashed day.
"Pete's like a beautiful woman," Ruel said after taking the job. "The closer you get, you better look out. He is very charismatic. He can smile and make you feel like a million dollars."
In his first year at USC (2005) all five USC offensive linemen got at least an honorable mention on the all-conference teams. Actually, they achieved quite a bit more. Center Ryan Kalil was All-Pac-10. Left guard Deuce Lutui and left tackle Sam Baker were All-Americans. Right guard Fred Matua was drafted by Detroit in 2006. Lutui and right tackle Winston Justice eventually become second-round choices in 2006.
Baker went on to become the third Trojan to become a three-time, first-team All-American in consecutive years. Kalil was an All-American in 2007 and became a Rimington Trophy finalist.
Recently, rivals.com named Ruel one of the best 25 recruiters in the country.
He played for Fran Curci in the 1970s at Miami. That's UM four coaches before Howard Schnellenberger. His longest stay came at Kansas (1988-96). During that first summer in Lawrence, the staff slept in tents near the practice fields as a show of solidarity. The Jayhawks had to stay together. There weren't very many of them -- 50 or so on scholarship.
Kansas went from 1-10 in 1988 to 10-2 in 1995, finishing in the top 10.
The wanderlust started at an early age. Dad (Pat II) was an FBI agent. Young Pat, then 8, didn't know that until he discovered a cache of dad's weapons underneath a floorboard in the family car. The family moved and moved and moved as dad worked counter-espionage in North Carolina, interstate commerce in Texas, organized crime in Chicago.
The son would follow dad's inherent support of local moving companies. Ruel is ready to begin his 35th year as an assistant. USC is his 12th stop. You might say everything is Golden.
"What it did is cause me to have a sense of adventure," said Pat, the coach. "I was never intimidated by a new environment or new places."

Mike Markuson, Ole Miss: In all 15 seasons Houston Nutt has been a head coach, Markuson has been his offensive line coach. Markuson comes to Oxford on a roll. Arkansas led the SEC in rushing four of the past five seasons. Center Jonathan Luigs won the Rimington Trophy last season, clearing the way for some guy named Darren McFadden.

Mac McWhorter, Texas: There are two Mac(k) daddies at Texas. In 2005, McWhorter's offensive line was the foundation for the unit that produced the most points in a season (652) and a Texas-record 6,657 yards. In 2006, the line consisted of an All-American Justin Blalock and three All-Big 12 performers (Blalock, Lyle Sendlein, Kasey Studdard). Tackle Adam Ulatoski was a freshman All-American. Last season, three freshmen had to play significant minutes but Texas still finished in the top 20 in total offense, rushing and scoring.

Hugh Nall, Auburn: A revered name in the SEC and around the nation. Nall has coached 10 NFL offensive linemen. His legacy includes two-time All-American Marcus McNeill, who in 2006 became the first rookie offensive lineman to make the Pro Bowl in 16 years. Tommy Tuberville wouldn't have completely changed his offense (to the spread) in 2008 if he didn't trust Nall. The pair go back to 1995 at Ole Miss.

Todd Spencer, Georgia Tech There's a reason Navy won all those rushing titles -- and games. Spencer followed coach Paul Johnson to Georgia Tech after Navy was the nation's top rushing team in three of the past five seasons. All the other guys you see here get to coach All-American talent. Spencer's guys at Navy were undersized and not about to head to the NFL. That all changes at Tech, where Spencer is teaching ACC talent how to block for the triple option.

Rick Trickett, Florida State: The former Marine corporal in the Vietnam War at times seems like he's still in battle. Language: Salty. Mercy? None. At West Virginia, his guys were up 6 a.m. in the offseason, just because. Before 2007, 21 of his players had gone to the NFL. While at West Virginia, he helped raise the Mountaineers to national power status with quick, agile offensive linemen. The next challenge is to get the Florida State offense moving in his second year in Tallahassee.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/10874173

TheDave
01-14-2010, 08:04 AM
The Denver Post indicated this morning that Josh's brother, Ben, would get strong consideration for the running backs coach position.

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14184384

Eh...Really?

meangene
01-14-2010, 08:16 AM
Eh...Really?

Yep. He had some type of assistant title this year. Hell, Shanahan hired his son as offensive coordinator. There really are kind of slim pickings for position coaches with NFL experience unless you are willing to give them a promotion from their existing teams. I think we need to look at position coaches in places where coaches and/or coordinators have been fired.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 08:21 AM
Well if that's the case then here is his resume... FWIW.

Ben McDaniels

Coaching Assistant

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Staff%20Photos/2009/mcdaniels_ben_mug09.jpg Ben McDaniels enters his first season as a coaching assistant for the Denver Broncos in 2009. He was named to that position on Jan. 21, 2009, after spending three years coaching at the high school level in Ohio and working for two seasons as a graduate assistant at the University of Minnesota.

McDaniels spent the previous three years coaching high school football in Ohio, instructing quarterbacks for Massillon Jackson High School (Massillon, Ohio) in 2008 after a two-year stint coaching that position at Canton McKinley Senior High School (Canton, Ohio) from 2006-07. He began his coaching career in 2003 as a wide receivers coach at Warren Harding High School (Warren, Ohio) before coaching as a graduate assistant at Minnesota for two years from 2004-05.

At Massillon Jackson High School in 2008, McDaniels coached quarterbacks and assisted with play calling and opponent scouting. He spent 2006-07 as a quarterbacks coach at Canton McKinley, helping the school post a 12-2 record and advance to the state semifinals in 2006.

McDaniels worked for the University of Minnesota as a graduate assistant under Head Coach Glen Mason from 2004-05. The Golden Gophers posted a 7-5 record and earned a berth in the Music City Bowl during each of those two seasons with McDaniels working with the wide receivers in 2004 and the defensive backs in 2005.

While at Minnesota in 2005, McDaniels was part of its team that recaptured the "Little Brown Jug" with a victory over the University of Michigan. The last-second road win marked the Golden Gophers' first victory against Michigan since 1986 in one of college football's oldest rivalries.

McDaniels was a quarterback at Kent State University under Head Coach Dean Pees from 1999-2001 after playing for Canton McKinley, which he led to a 37-3 record and two state championships during his three years as a starter. He set school career and single-season records for passing yardage and touchdowns while helping it earn a No. 1 national ranking from USA Today in 1997.
His father, Thom McDaniels, coached him for two years (1996-97) in high school and established himself as one of the state's most celebrated coaches during his 16-year career (1982-97) as Canton McKinley's head coach. McDaniels also coached under his father in 2008 when he was Massillon Jackson High School's head coach and in 2003 when he was Warren Harding High School's head coach.

The younger brother of Broncos Head Coach Josh McDaniels, Ben McDaniels received a bachelor's degree in sport management from Kent State and a master's degree in sport management from Minnesota. He was born on June 6, 1980, in Barberton, Ohio.

strafen
01-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Well if that's the case then here is his resume... FWIW.

Ben McDaniels

Coaching Assistant

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Staff%20Photos/2009/mcdaniels_ben_mug09.jpg Ben McDaniels enters his first season as a coaching assistant for the Denver Broncos in 2009. He was named to that position on Jan. 21, 2009, after spending three years coaching at the high school level in Ohio and working for two seasons as a graduate assistant at the University of Minnesota.

McDaniels spent the previous three years coaching high school football in Ohio, instructing quarterbacks for Massillon Jackson High School (Massillon, Ohio) in 2008 after a two-year stint coaching that position at Canton McKinley Senior High School (Canton, Ohio) from 2006-07. He began his coaching career in 2003 as a wide receivers coach at Warren Harding High School (Warren, Ohio) before coaching as a graduate assistant at Minnesota for two years from 2004-05.

At Massillon Jackson High School in 2008, McDaniels coached quarterbacks and assisted with play calling and opponent scouting. He spent 2006-07 as a quarterbacks coach at Canton McKinley, helping the school post a 12-2 record and advance to the state semifinals in 2006.

McDaniels worked for the University of Minnesota as a graduate assistant under Head Coach Glen Mason from 2004-05. The Golden Gophers posted a 7-5 record and earned a berth in the Music City Bowl during each of those two seasons with McDaniels working with the wide receivers in 2004 and the defensive backs in 2005.

While at Minnesota in 2005, McDaniels was part of its team that recaptured the "Little Brown Jug" with a victory over the University of Michigan. The last-second road win marked the Golden Gophers' first victory against Michigan since 1986 in one of college football's oldest rivalries.

McDaniels was a quarterback at Kent State University under Head Coach Dean Pees from 1999-2001 after playing for Canton McKinley, which he led to a 37-3 record and two state championships during his three years as a starter. He set school career and single-season records for passing yardage and touchdowns while helping it earn a No. 1 national ranking from USA Today in 1997.
His father, Thom McDaniels, coached him for two years (1996-97) in high school and established himself as one of the state's most celebrated coaches during his 16-year career (1982-97) as Canton McKinley's head coach. McDaniels also coached under his father in 2008 when he was Massillon Jackson High School's head coach and in 2003 when he was Warren Harding High School's head coach.

The younger brother of Broncos Head Coach Josh McDaniels, Ben McDaniels received a bachelor's degree in sport management from Kent State and a master's degree in sport management from Minnesota. He was born on June 6, 1980, in Barberton, Ohio.

Hilarious! LOL ROFL! :strong::~ohyah!:

Yup, that's the kind of coaching the Broncos once considered one of the best franchises in all sports need right now.
Let's get rid of quality players and replace them with scrubs.
Allow our fine staff and highly regarded coaching staff to leave, and replace them with a high-school coach.

Beautiful!

Do I hear the Mcdaniels supporters call me a hater yet for not approving a high school coach to join the Broncos?
Do I hear the McD supporters already justifying why a HS coach is a great thing?
Hilarious!

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 08:30 AM
Hilarious! LOL ROFL! :strong::~ohyah!:

Yup, that's the kind of coaching the Broncos once considered one of the best franchises in all sports need right now.
Let's get rid of quality players and replace them with scrubs.
Allow our fine staff and highly regarded coaching staff to leave, and replace them with a high-school coach.

Beautiful!

Do I hear the Mcdaniels supporters call me a hater yet for not approving a high school coach to join the Broncos?
Do I hear the McD supporters already justifying why a HS coach is a great thing?
Hilarious!

You hear a Broncos fan wishing you wouldn't ruin a perfectly good thread with this anti-McD bull****.

watermock
01-14-2010, 08:31 AM
wow.

29.

Now we have a high school coaching staff plus nepotism.

Grover
01-14-2010, 08:38 AM
Until the hiring actually happens, it's just one reporters idea of what McDaniels is thinking. I'm willing to stay calm and hope McDaniels makes a wise decision on these two replacements. I'm fairly happy with his other coaching choices.

Dagmar
01-14-2010, 08:47 AM
wow.

29.

Now we have a high school coaching staff plus nepotism.

How did Kyle Shanahan do?

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 08:54 AM
The USC guys sound pretty good. I think McD should go after the Iowa line coach. That guy has been turning out linemen to the NFL for years.
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/morgan_reese00.html

bpc
01-14-2010, 09:12 AM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha! Josh's brother.

Called it. Can't wait until he brings his Ohio High School resume and knocks our HB's socks off.

This is pathetic.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 09:19 AM
The Denver Post indicated this morning that Josh's brother, Ben, would get strong consideration for the running backs coach position.

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14184384

Big mistake, nepotism. That dude does not have the seasoning.

bpc
01-14-2010, 09:40 AM
Ah, nothing undermines respect like this move right here. The players are going to think this is a joke. The kid has not had a significant impact, anywhere he has gone.

He was a average college football player, at an unknown univeristy in Ohio. He was a GA for two years at Minnesota, and while he was there "when they won the little brown jug", his coaching probably had nothing to do with it. GA's run the scout squad. They hold up play cards and the offensive or defensive units do whatever it says. There really isn't any coaching going on there.

So the primary coahing experience he's feeding off of is what he's done with little teenagers, 15-17 years of age and now that's supposed to translate to coaching some of the better athletes in the world?

This has got to be a complete joke. Wait for it to become official but this should be listed on the timeline for firejoshmcdanielsnow.com. What a joke.

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 09:44 AM
Ah, nothing undermines respect like this move right here. The players are going to think this is a joke. The kid has not had a significant impact, anywhere he has gone.

He was a average college football player, at an unknown univeristy in Ohio. He was a GA for two years at Minnesota, and while he was there "when they won the little brown jug", his coaching probably had nothing to do with it. GA's run the scout squad. They hold up play cards and the offensive or defensive units do whatever it says. There really isn't any coaching going on there.

So the primary coahing experience he's feeding off of is what he's done with little teenagers, 15-17 years of age and now that's supposed to translate to coaching some of the better athletes in the world?

This has got to be a complete joke. Wait for it to become official but this should be listed on the timeline for firejoshmcdanielsnow.com. What a joke.


Excuse me?? Have you already forgotten about a certain sensation by the name of Jack Mutha****in Williams?? I'M not telling him his alma mater's unkown.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 09:50 AM
The drop off from Bobby Turner to Ben McDaniels would be considerable. I hope this is just mindless DP speculation.

bpc
01-14-2010, 09:52 AM
Excuse me?? Have you already forgotten about a certain sensation by the name of Jack Mutha****in Williams?? I'M not telling him his alma mater's unkown.

Well McD shat on the school... until it came to his brother, and now he thinks it's great.

SoDak Bronco
01-14-2010, 10:10 AM
I suggested Tom Cable for the Oline position in another thread...if he gets canned which probably will happen.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2010, 10:11 AM
The drop off from Bobby Turner to Ben McDaniels would be considerable. I hope this is just mindless DP speculation.

How does one quantify the differences between running back coaches? My guess is the effects are quite minimal and this is much ado about nothing. And regardless of his creditentials, he has a football background andjust spent an entire year with the staff, so he's probably more qualified for a job with the broncos than a lot of these college coaches people are pining for.

Relax, its hardly a big deal.

24champ
01-14-2010, 10:12 AM
The drop off from Bobby Turner to Ben McDaniels would be considerable. I hope this is just mindless DP speculation.

It sounds like speculation to me, I don't think anyone really knows who will replace Turner and Dennison but McDaniels. I would think McDaniels already has a list of coaches he wants to see about these two open positions on the staff.

If it's his younger brother, then I would be disappointed.

jhat01
01-14-2010, 10:24 AM
All the Chihuahuas yapping at speculation. There's no way he promotes his brother after one year. A logical promotion for him somewhere down the line is QB coach..but not for awhile. And Kent State is not an unknown school.

boppool
01-14-2010, 10:25 AM
Well if that's the case then here is his resume... FWIW.

Ben McDaniels

Coaching Assistant

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Staff%20Photos/2009/mcdaniels_ben_mug09.jpg Ben McDaniels enters his first season as a coaching assistant for the Denver Broncos in 2009. He was named to that position on Jan. 21, 2009, after spending three years coaching at the high school level in Ohio and working for two seasons as a graduate assistant at the University of Minnesota.

McDaniels spent the previous three years coaching high school football in Ohio, instructing quarterbacks for Massillon Jackson High School (Massillon, Ohio) in 2008 after a two-year stint coaching that position at Canton McKinley Senior High School (Canton, Ohio) from 2006-07. He began his coaching career in 2003 as a wide receivers coach at Warren Harding High School (Warren, Ohio) before coaching as a graduate assistant at Minnesota for two years from 2004-05.

At Massillon Jackson High School in 2008, McDaniels coached quarterbacks and assisted with play calling and opponent scouting. He spent 2006-07 as a quarterbacks coach at Canton McKinley, helping the school post a 12-2 record and advance to the state semifinals in 2006.

McDaniels worked for the University of Minnesota as a graduate assistant under Head Coach Glen Mason from 2004-05. The Golden Gophers posted a 7-5 record and earned a berth in the Music City Bowl during each of those two seasons with McDaniels working with the wide receivers in 2004 and the defensive backs in 2005.

While at Minnesota in 2005, McDaniels was part of its team that recaptured the "Little Brown Jug" with a victory over the University of Michigan. The last-second road win marked the Golden Gophers' first victory against Michigan since 1986 in one of college football's oldest rivalries.

McDaniels was a quarterback at Kent State University under Head Coach Dean Pees from 1999-2001 after playing for Canton McKinley, which he led to a 37-3 record and two state championships during his three years as a starter. He set school career and single-season records for passing yardage and touchdowns while helping it earn a No. 1 national ranking from USA Today in 1997.
His father, Thom McDaniels, coached him for two years (1996-97) in high school and established himself as one of the state's most celebrated coaches during his 16-year career (1982-97) as Canton McKinley's head coach. McDaniels also coached under his father in 2008 when he was Massillon Jackson High School's head coach and in 2003 when he was Warren Harding High School's head coach.

The younger brother of Broncos Head Coach Josh McDaniels, Ben McDaniels received a bachelor's degree in sport management from Kent State and a master's degree in sport management from Minnesota. He was born on June 6, 1980, in Barberton, Ohio.

The most impressive thing about his resume? <b>"The younger brother of Broncos Head Coach Josh McDaniels"</b>

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 10:41 AM
All the Chihuahuas yapping at speculation. There's no way he promotes his brother after one year. A logical promotion for him somewhere down the line is QB coach..but not for awhile. And Kent State is not an unknown school.

I'm of this school of thought. Contrary to popular belief, he's not an idiot. No one in the ****ing world has an inflated opinion of what their younger brother is capable of. Josh was in an awesome position and gave his brother a "coaching assistant" position because he could. He probably just makes sure no one's head set cables get tangled. If I was in a position to hook up one of my siblings with an entry level job in their field of study, I'd do it in a heartbeat, and so would any one of you.

Florida_Bronco
01-14-2010, 10:50 AM
It sounds like speculation to me, I don't think anyone really knows who will replace Turner and Dennison but McDaniels. I would think McDaniels already has a list of coaches he wants to see about these two open positions on the staff.

If it's his younger brother, then I would be disappointed.

Exactly. From what I can see the article is nothing by speculation by the Denver Post, yet BPC is in here doing his teenage girl drama act. ::)

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 10:59 AM
How does one quantify the differences between running back coaches? My guess is the effects are quite minimal and this is much ado about nothing. And regardless of his creditentials, he has a football background andjust spent an entire year with the staff, so he's probably more qualified for a job with the broncos than a lot of these college coaches people are pining for.

Relax, its hardly a big deal.

Sounds like you don't much value the position. "Stick anybody in there. It'll work." I'm guessing there are a whole bunch of coaches out there with a whole lot more experience with the NFL running game than McD's little brother, who would love to make an impact in the NFL by joining a franchise with a highly storied tradition of running the ball successfully. I'd like to see that tradition continue, not wait around three years while some kid learns the position. McD's brother sounds like he'd make an excellent assistant coach somewhere. Anyway, like I said, this is probably just crap to sell papers.

Merlin
01-14-2010, 11:06 AM
How did Kyle Shanahan do?
Are you serious? You mean the OC for one of the top offences in the NFL in 09? I'm guessing he did far better than any high school coach in the nation, and better than virtually every HC at the college ranks...but that's just me giving him credit for actually accomplishing something at the NFL level without superstar talent.

Lets see the Texans are top 5 in ydg in the league and top 10 in points scored...wait...something must be wrong, his offense outplayed the offense of the genius McD. The league must have padded his stats.

Bronco LB52
01-14-2010, 11:22 AM
How did Kyle Shanahan do?

Kyle Shanahan played big time college football at Texas and was a fringe NFL prospect coming out of college. He participated at the NFL combine.

McDaniels' lil bro's resume doesn't even compare.

2KBack
01-14-2010, 11:23 AM
Are you serious? You mean the OC for one of the top offences in the NFL in 09? I'm guessing he did far better than any high school coach in the nation, and better than virtually every HC at the college ranks...but that's just me giving him credit for actually accomplishing something at the NFL level without superstar talent.

Lets see the Texans are top 5 in ydg in the league and top 10 in points scored...wait...something must be wrong, his offense outplayed the offense of the genius McD. The league must have padded his stats.

I'm pretty sure that was in reference to the fact that Kyle Shanahan had a similar resume to Brother McD when he started in the league. They were both graduate assistants in college, got jobs as "quality control consultants," then (potentially) got jobs as position coaches.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Hilarious! LOL ROFL! :strong::~ohyah!:

Yup, that's the kind of coaching the Broncos once considered one of the best franchises in all sports need right now.
Let's get rid of quality players and replace them with scrubs.
Allow our fine staff and highly regarded coaching staff to leave, and replace them with a high-school coach.

Beautiful!

Do I hear the Mcdaniels supporters call me a hater yet for not approving a high school coach to join the Broncos?
Do I hear the McD supporters already justifying why a HS coach is a great thing?
Hilarious!

What are you crying about? Has the hire been made?

christ, you're such a little bitch.

Bronco LB52
01-14-2010, 11:24 AM
If there's a position where a brother needs to be hired, it's the RBs coach.

What does some punk ass white boy know about cutting on a dime, juking a linebacker and doing his thang?

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 11:26 AM
If there's a position where a brother needs to be hired, it's the RBs coach.

What does some punk ass white boy know about cutting on a dime, juking a linebacker and doing his thang?

"Yo Hillis! Ax coach if he got any kool aid!"

worm
01-14-2010, 11:27 AM
If Ben becomes the RB coach...I would LOVE to be in the room as he addresses the RBs from last year. How could they not laugh?????

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 11:27 AM
If there's a position where a brother needs to be hired, it's the RBs coach.

What does some punk ass white boy know about cutting on a dime, juking a linebacker and doing his thang?

According to most of the morons here, Hillis would be able to coach the position, play the position, and then be buried for three days before rising again to ascend to the right hand of the Father.

Taco John
01-14-2010, 11:31 AM
According to most of the morons here, Hillis would be able to coach the position, play the position, and then be buried for three days before rising again to ascend to the right hand of the Father.

Hillis would only need two.

watermock
01-14-2010, 11:31 AM
How did Kyle Shanahan do?

Kyle actually grew up in a NFL program moron, and is MUCH older than Joshies little bro.

Sorry.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2010, 11:33 AM
Sounds like you don't much value the position. "Stick anybody in there. It'll work." I'm guessing there are a whole bunch of coaches out there with a whole lot more experience with the NFL running game than McD's little brother, who would love to make an impact in the NFL by joining a franchise with a highly storied tradition of running the ball successfully. I'd like to see that tradition continue, not wait around three years while some kid learns the position. McD's brother sounds like he'd make an excellent assistant coach somewhere. Anyway, like I said, this is probably just crap to sell papers.


I just sometimes question the actual value of a position coach, not necessarily their importance. First off, we know nothing about Ben McDaniels's grasp on the position, people are just assuming he's a jester because of nepotism. Secondly, its impossible really to quantify what his expertise really means to a running backs performance on gameday. My point is, and this is admittedly coming from an ignorant POV, is that a running back coach doesn't really effect wins and losses on sundays. And if it does, its just one incredibly tiny variable among thousands. I think it probably makes more of a difference on like a high school level, but these guys are professionals.

worm
01-14-2010, 11:36 AM
I just sometimes question the actual value of a position coach, not necessarily their importance. First off, we know nothing about Ben McDaniels's grasp on the position, people are just assuming he's a jester because of nepotism. Secondly, its impossible really to quantify what his expertise really means to a running backs performance on gameday. My point is, and this is admittedly coming from an ignorant POV, is that a running back coach doesn't really effect wins and losses on sundays. And if it does, its just one incredibly tiny variable among thousands. I think it probably makes more of a difference on like a high school level, but these guys are professionals.

So you don't give Bobby Turner any credit for his work with TD et al?

watermock
01-14-2010, 11:40 AM
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Florida_Bronco
01-14-2010, 11:42 AM
Kyle actually grew up in a NFL program moron, and is MUCH older than Joshies little bro.

Sorry.

Actually it's a 1 year difference between Kyle and Ben.

Bronco Yoda
01-14-2010, 11:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy
According to most of the morons here, Hillis would be able to coach the position, play the position, and then be buried for three days before rising again to ascend to the right hand of the Father.

TJ,
Hillis would only need two.



...and then, and only then will Hillis be standing on the sidelines to the right of Shanahan.

So it is written, so it shall be done.

watermock
01-14-2010, 11:47 AM
I just sometimes question the actual value of a position coach, not necessarily their importance. First off, we know nothing about Ben McDaniels's grasp on the position, people are just assuming he's a jester because of nepotism. Secondly, its impossible really to quantify what his expertise really means to a running backs performance on gameday. My point is, and this is admittedly coming from an ignorant POV, is that a running back coach doesn't really effect wins and losses on sundays. And if it does, its just one incredibly tiny variable among thousands. I think it probably makes more of a difference on like a high school level, but these guys are professionals.

You should write for climategate.

watermock
01-14-2010, 11:51 AM
Actually it's a 1 year difference between Kyle and Ben.


Boy, she really popped em out huh, means nothing.

It's big brother/little brother, unless lil joshie gets kicked around by his little brother...

OH MY!

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2010, 11:55 AM
So you don't give Bobby Turner any credit for his work with TD et al?

Well he certainly didnt do a poor job obviously, but to not credit Shanahan, Kubiak, Gibbs, etc for the development of TD (and the running game as a whole) is equally irresponsible. The RB coach is just one part and I just cant imagine its the hugest difference in the world.

I could be 100 percent wrong. There's really no way of knowing the answer unfortunately.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2010, 11:55 AM
You should write for climategate.

we really need the rolling eyes emoticon

jhat01
01-14-2010, 11:58 AM
Kyle actually grew up in a NFL program moron, and is MUCH older than Joshies little bro.

Sorry.

I think you missed his point. Every coach starts out somewhere and I would venture to say that most of the young coaches get their spots as QA, and other mundane positions because of an "in" with a current member of that staff.

It doesn't make sense to me to have him handling RBs when he was a QB not too far removed from college. Like I said, maybe QB coach somewhere down the line. Kyle was unproven a few years ago too, I'm just not going to **** in McD's soup because a newspaper is speculating.

Broncoman13
01-14-2010, 12:01 PM
Boy, she really popped em out huh, means nothing.

It's big brother/little brother, unless lil joshie gets kicked around by his little brother...

OH MY!

You've really turned into a dumbass. Try to follow along, Kyle is Shanahan, no relation to Ben or Josh McDaniels. The point is, you claimed Shanny Jr. was "Much" older than Ben McDaniels. Simply not true and another useless and ignorant post from Waterc0ck. NICE ONE!

Broncoman13
01-14-2010, 12:04 PM
I think McD should call the Vikings and see if Bienemy is interested in coming home!!!

TheDave
01-14-2010, 12:06 PM
I think McD should call the Vikings and see if Bienemy is interested in coming home!!!

I thought he was still at CU/UCLA?

Broncoman13
01-14-2010, 12:06 PM
I also wouldn't mind it if he offered the opportunity to Tiki Barber. Sometimes perspective and thinking outside of the box leads to success. SOMETIMES, you have to take on some risk to get a higher level of success.

Broncoman13
01-14-2010, 12:07 PM
I thought he was still at CU?

Nope, he's been at Minny for a little bit now I think four years... he's had AD since he was a rookie so how ever long that's been. Three years I guess.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:07 PM
I just sometimes question the actual value of a position coach, not necessarily their importance. First off, we know nothing about Ben McDaniels's grasp on the position, people are just assuming he's a jester because of nepotism. Secondly, its impossible really to quantify what his expertise really means to a running backs performance on gameday. My point is, and this is admittedly coming from an ignorant POV, is that a running back coach doesn't really effect wins and losses on sundays. And if it does, its just one incredibly tiny variable among thousands. I think it probably makes more of a difference on like a high school level, but these guys are professionals.

The improvement of Knowshon over his rookie year was very impressive. He went from a guy who was obviously unsure of where the hole was and how the line in front of him was working to a back who was nailing the hole with more and more authority week to week, with much more confidence. I believe that was Bobby's doing. Maybe a position coach is not that big a deal to vets like Buckhalter (though that is probably arguable), but they are crucial to rookies. The NFL is so specialized. I think good position coaches can be critical to success.

Broncoman13
01-14-2010, 12:11 PM
The improvement of Knowshon over his rookie year was very impressive. He went from a guy who was obviously unsure of where the hole was and how the line in front of him was working to a back who was nailing the hole with more and more authority week to week, with much more confidence. I believe that was Bobby's doing. Maybe a position coach is not that big a deal to vets like Buckhalter (though that is probably arguable), but they are crucial to rookies. The NFL is so specialized. I think good position coaches can be critical to success.

Considering that Knowshon was a rookie and his body wore down significantly as the season moved along, I think this is even more noteable. Rookies generally fall off during the 2nd half of the season. Their bodies aren't prepared for the beatings, especially when you consider how much focus they have on training for the combine instead of actually football. And, lets not forget that Knowshon was at less than 100% for a good portion of the season. He was healthy enough to play after the knee injury, but he wasn't at 100%. He's going to be a beast next year.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:12 PM
Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't Bobby Turner who gave the Broncos the heads up on that injured kid down in Georgia that didn't get a whole lot of playing time, but he saw something in him that was worth a sixth rounder. I really doubt a guy with Ben McDaniels' experience could pull that off.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 12:17 PM
I hear they're going to change the name from the Lombardi Trophy to the Bobby Turner Trophy.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:20 PM
I hear they're going to change the name from the Lombardi Trophy to the Bobby Turner Trophy.

Clown prince? I'd agree with the "clown" part. :~ohyah!:

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2010, 12:23 PM
Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't Bobby Turner who gave the Broncos the heads up on that injured kid down in Georgia that didn't get a whole lot of playing time, but he saw something in him that was worth a sixth rounder. I really doubt a guy with Ben McDaniels' experience could pull that off.

Maybe, maybe not..but you have to admit this is complete speculation.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 12:24 PM
Clown prince? I'd agree with the "clown" part. :~ohyah!:

Why don't you go ahead and skate down that ramp? Then we'll see who the clown is.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Maybe, maybe not..but you have to admit this is complete speculation.

Like I said, I wouldn't be at all surprised. ???

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Why don't you go ahead and skate down that ramp? Then we'll see who the clown is.

No sweat. I'd make it. :thumbsup:

DBroncos4life
01-14-2010, 12:29 PM
I think you missed his point. Every coach starts out somewhere and I would venture to say that most of the young coaches get their spots as QA, and other mundane positions because of an "in" with a current member of that staff.

It doesn't make sense to me to have him handling RBs when he was a QB not too far removed from college. Like I said, maybe QB coach somewhere down the line. Kyle was unproven a few years ago too, I'm just not going to **** in McD's soup because a newspaper is speculating.

Mike let Kyle do his own thing. Kyle started off at UCLA for a year as a Graduate assistant, then he went to Tampa Bay from 2004-2005 Offensive Quality Control. Kubes then took him to be a Wide receivers coach. then a Quarterbacks coach. Kyle was a Offensive Coordinator for two years under Kubes as well. I'm sure Kyle wouldn't have had a chance in the NFL without his dad being who he was but he did manage to get a job in the NFL without it being on his dads team.

2KBack
01-14-2010, 12:31 PM
Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't Bobby Turner who gave the Broncos the heads up on that injured kid down in Georgia that didn't get a whole lot of playing time, but he saw something in him that was worth a sixth rounder. I really doubt a guy with Ben McDaniels' experience could pull that off.

We know for a fact he gave Denver a heads up on a troubled young man up in Ohio. He was a little misunderstood, but he saw something special that was worth a 3rd rounder.

You win some, you lose some

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 12:46 PM
We know for a fact he gave Denver a heads up on a troubled young man up in Ohio. He was a little misunderstood, but he saw something special that was worth a 3rd rounder.

You win some, you lose some

Clarett had excellent physical skills, but his mind was deranged.

TonyR
01-14-2010, 12:49 PM
Clarett had excellent physical skills, but his mind was deranged.

So he was Mock with physical skills, basically.

jhat01
01-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Mike let Kyle do his own thing. Kyle started off at UCLA for a year as a Graduate assistant, then he went to Tampa Bay from 2004-2005 Offensive Quality Control. Kubes then took him to be a Wide receivers coach. then a Quarterbacks coach. Kyle was a Offensive Coordinator for two years under Kubes as well. I'm sure Kyle wouldn't have had a chance in the NFL without his dad being who he was but he did manage to get a job in the NFL without it being on his dads team.

We agree.

2KBack
01-14-2010, 12:54 PM
Clarett had excellent physical skills, but his mind was deranged.

It's still a failure credited to Turner for the most part. You can't only assess the good.

Still, claiming that this Ben kid might not hit on a once in a decade player in the 6th round isn't exactly a damning revelation.

bpc
01-14-2010, 12:56 PM
I was going to chime in on the Kyle Shanahan/BEN-Dover McDaniels debate but it seems like there are a few that have already broken it down perfectly. Ben is not cut from the same class that Kyle is yet. Not even close.

Let's just hope that Ben McDaniels remains in the position he is, for at least a few years. He doesn't have the skills yet to be coaching NFL athletes.

bpc
01-14-2010, 12:59 PM
Clarett had excellent physical skills, but his mind was deranged.

Clarett showed RARE football ability on the field. If his mind was right, he easily would have been a stud in the NFL. I don't have a doubt. His forced fumble at the end of the Miami game was one of the best football plays i've ever seen, and it was the reason Ohio State won that National Championship game.

The biggest problem with Shanahan and I guess indirectly, Turner, was they believed in giving guys too many chances. Now that the writing has been on the wall, it was a fatal flaw in at least Mike's career in Denver.

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 01:08 PM
I was going to chime in on the Kyle Shanahan/BEN-Dover McDaniels debate but it seems like there are a few that have already broken it down perfectly. Ben is not cut from the same class that Kyle is yet. Not even close.
Let's just hope that Ben McDaniels remains in the position he is, for at least a few years. He doesn't have the skills yet to be coaching NFL athletes.

It's worth pointing out every few posts, because a LOT of people seem to be missing this: There is absolutely NO INDICATION yet that coach McD thinks he can replace Bobby Turner with his brother. None whatsoever. If it does happen, I will be right there to doubt the move, as most people will, but until then, everyone needs to remember that all this hullabaloo is the result of one sentence with no source in a DP article. It has less credibility than a Josina tweet.

bpc
01-14-2010, 01:16 PM
It's worth pointing out every few posts, because a LOT of people seem to be missing this: There is absolutely NO INDICATION yet that coach McD thinks he can replace Bobby Turner with his brother. None whatsoever. If it does happen, I will be right there to doubt the move, as most people will, but until then, everyone needs to remember that all this hullabaloo is the result of one sentence with no source in a DP article. It has less credibility than a Josina tweet.

Which is why I said that it would be foolish to promote him to any substantial position YET.

I'm not saying this will happen. It's all speculation right now. I'm hoping and praying it does not happen because even though it will fly under the national radar, the truest of Bronco fans will know this is another blatant mis-step in a long line that McDaniels has initiated in just one year on the job.

watermock
01-14-2010, 02:00 PM
It's worth pointing out every few posts, because a LOT of people seem to be missing this: There is absolutely NO INDICATION yet that coach McD thinks he can replace Bobby Turner with his brother. None whatsoever. If it does happen, I will be right there to doubt the move, as most people will, but until then, everyone needs to remember that all this hullabaloo is the result of one sentence with no source in a DP article. It has less credibility than a Josina tweet.

Total bullshiat.

He's in. just watch, ass.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 02:02 PM
It's still a failure credited to Turner for the most part. You can't only assess the good.

Still, claiming that this Ben kid might not hit on a once in a decade player in the 6th round isn't exactly a damning revelation.

No, you're right. It isn't. And I threw that out there more as an aside. I'm more concerned with the experience level. Bobby Turner had a ****load of experience when Shanahan hired him. I'm sure there are guys out there, maybe former NFL backs-turned coaches, with a similar resume. You've got to admit, Ben's resume is pretty thin.

jhat01
01-14-2010, 02:07 PM
Total bullshiat.

He's in. just watch, ass.

The legend of Mock continues to grow...Nice post.

You crap on guys who take some time to think what they post? You should try it once or twice.

rastaman
01-14-2010, 02:14 PM
You hear a Broncos fan wishing you wouldn't ruin a perfectly good thread with this anti-McD bull****.

I hear a Bronco fan wishing you would stop living in denial for once. Give me a freaking break! McD hiring his brother straight out of H.S. with no coaching experience at the collegite level let alone NFL level reeks of incompetence and nepotism.

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 02:21 PM
I hear a Bronco fan wishing you would stop living in denial for once. Give me a freaking break! McD hiring his brother straight out of H.S. with no coaching experience at the collegite level let alone NFL level reeks of incompetence and nepotism.

Please don't quote me and make false assumptions about what I think. I was just wishing a legit football discussion thread could last more than 5 posts before descending into the usual OM civil war madness.

elsid13
01-14-2010, 02:21 PM
Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't Bobby Turner who gave the Broncos the heads up on that injured kid down in Georgia that didn't get a whole lot of playing time, but he saw something in him that was worth a sixth rounder. I really doubt a guy with Ben McDaniels' experience could pull that off.

TD was Kubiak's choice. He was the one that lobbied for him.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 02:22 PM
I hear a Bronco fan wishing you would stop living in denial for once. Give me a freaking break! McD hiring his brother straight out of H.S. with no coaching experience at the collegite level let alone NFL level reeks of incompetence and nepotism.

Except that he isn't doing that. At least not yet. So far, it's just speculation from the DP. You know, message board fodder.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 02:22 PM
TD was Kubiak's choice. He was the one that lobbied for him.

Couldn't find anything on that anywhere online. Where did you get it?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 02:22 PM
Has a hire been made yet?

No?

So why do we have a multiple page thread dissecting the move as if it's already happened?

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Has a hire been made yet?

No?

So why do we have a multiple page thread dissecting the move as if it's already happened?

Uhh, football message board? Speculation?

elsid13
01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Couldn't find anything on that anywhere online. Where did you get it?

It was interview on TV. I think it was the NFLN, when they were talking about TD, ZBS and running game with Kubes. It was the first time I had heard Kubes claim the credit for TD.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 02:33 PM
Uhh, football message board? Speculation?

yeah, thanks, I know where I am, but come on. It's not even speculation. This is a witch hunt based on something that hasn't happened.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 02:35 PM
Has a hire been made yet?

No?

So why do we have a multiple page thread dissecting the move as if it's already happened?

Hmmm... The title of the thread is "Who replaces Turner & Dennison?"


Do you ever contribute to threads or just bitch about them?

Pick Six
01-14-2010, 02:36 PM
Has a hire been made yet?

No?

So why do we have a multiple page thread dissecting the move as if it's already happened?

It's the Mane, man....:peace:

DBroncos4life
01-14-2010, 02:39 PM
Hmmm... The title of the thread is "Who replaces Turner & Dennison?"


Do you ever contribute to threads or just b**** about them?

I'll take sits around and bitches in threads for $1000 Alex.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 02:40 PM
I'll take sits around and b****es in threads for $1000 Alex.

:spit:

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 02:43 PM
Back on subject: I want this guy for the Oline. http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/morgan_reese00.html

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 02:44 PM
Hmmm... The title of the thread is "Who replaces Turner & Dennison?"


Do you ever contribute to threads or just b**** about them?

Since you're too stupid (evidently) to read it for yourself, the thread has devolved into a witch hunt because of a hire that hasn't been made, based on a rumor by a local newspaper. Nobody's talking about who might be hired. People are talking about why McD is stupid for hiring someone he hasn't hired.

Again, if you weren't a complete moron, you might be able to read that for yourself.

Do YOU ever contribute to threads, or just b**** about other posters?

No need to respond. EVERYONE knows the answer.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 02:45 PM
Back on subject: I want this guy for the Oline. http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/morgan_reese00.html

Looks great, but I wonder what it would take to get him away from Iowa.

DBroncos4life
01-14-2010, 02:56 PM
Since you're too stupid (evidently) to read it for yourself, the thread has devolved into a witch hunt because of a hire that hasn't been made, based on a rumor by a local newspaper. Nobody's talking about who might be hired. People are talking about why McD is stupid for hiring someone he hasn't hired.

Again, if you weren't a complete moron, you might be able to read that for yourself.

Do YOU ever contribute to threads, or just b**** about other posters?

No need to respond. EVERYONE knows the answer.

Thread starter TheDave asked this to start the thread

Anyone have any insight as to who we will be looking at tho replace these two?

If rumors are true and Bowlen requested that both Turner & Dennison be retained last year, I suppose that means McD had his eye on a few other candidates.

Were there any rumors who might of coached these positions from last year?


Notice how there is no talk about McD's brother in the post but a question about people who are rumored to replace our former coaches

Then .... post 6

The Denver Post indicated this morning that Josh's brother, Ben, would get strong consideration for the running backs coach position.

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14184384

So I think you will understand that a THREAD started by TheDave about rumors of possible coaches would have RUMORS in them about people rumored to replace our coaches that are gone.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 02:58 PM
Thread starter TheDave asked this to start the thread




Notice how there is no talk about McD's brother in the post but a question about people who are rumored to replace our former coaches

Then .... post 6



So I think you will understand that a THREAD started by TheDave about rumors of possible coaches would have RUMORS in them about people rumored to replace our coaches that are gone.

Oy. Hey, TheDave's bodyguard: try to pay attention.

It has devolved. From a post about rumors to a conspiracy theory/attack post about ONE person who MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be on the list.

not sure how you missed it. you're obviously so far up TheDave's ass, maybe you can't see for yourself.

DBroncos4life
01-14-2010, 03:07 PM
Oy. Hey, TheDave's bodyguard: try to pay attention.

It has devolved. From a post about rumors to a conspiracy theory/attack post about ONE person who MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be on the list.

not sure how you missed it. you're obviously so far up TheDave's ass, maybe you can't see for yourself.

Yes I know first hand that TheDave so sinister that he started a thread about who will replace our coaches knowing full well that it would turn into a hate thread about McD. Are you new around here? I would say about 95% of new threads end up being a hate on McD thread so I don't know what to tell you. People try to have discussions but between the two groups nothing stays on track long.

BroncoBuff
01-14-2010, 03:10 PM
Oy. Hey, TheDave's bodyguard: try to pay attention.

Me too me too ... I'm TheDave's bodyguard too. PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

elsid13
01-14-2010, 03:14 PM
Of course TheDave has bodyguards, without them he might be seriously injured by monkey welding a chain saw and HIV spitting cobra.

DBroncos4life
01-14-2010, 03:16 PM
Me too me too ... I'm TheDave's bodyguard too. PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

Damn TheDave and his whores!

24champ
01-14-2010, 04:19 PM
Since you're too stupid (evidently) to read it for yourself, the thread has devolved into a witch hunt because of a hire that hasn't been made, based on a rumor by a local newspaper. Nobody's talking about who might be hired. People are talking about why McD is stupid for hiring someone he hasn't hired.

Again, if you weren't a complete moron, you might be able to read that for yourself.

Do YOU ever contribute to threads, or just b**** about other posters?

No need to respond. EVERYONE knows the answer.

Speaking of which, I never seen you contribute squat other than the occasional comedy relief you provide by walking into threads like these and making yourself look like a complete dumbass.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-14-2010, 04:27 PM
/yawn

And the devolution continues...

2KBack
01-14-2010, 04:29 PM
No, you're right. It isn't. And I threw that out there more as an aside. I'm more concerned with the experience level. Bobby Turner had a ****load of experience when Shanahan hired him. I'm sure there are guys out there, maybe former NFL backs-turned coaches, with a similar resume. You've got to admit, Ben's resume is pretty thin.

That is very true. The experience level of this Ben fellow would concern me as well. I would imagine his football knowledge is probably pretty damn good, but it is hard to replace experience. He is certainly not the kind of person I would choose, at least not after only a year on an NFL team.

If it did happen though, I don't think I would go into a deep depression about it. He might bring some fresh perspective to the position and turn out to be a pretty good coach. Everyone has to start somewhere.

I can't shake the feeling that another wave of drama is ready to hit the Omane though. Imagine the fights that would arise if McD's brother gets the job, and the running game improves.

"it was the oline!"
"It was the coach!"
"it was Orton!"
"It was not being a rookie anymore!"
"It was Hillis!"

My head hurts already

watermock
01-14-2010, 04:30 PM
Of course TheDave has bodyguards, without them he might be seriously injured by monkey welding a chain saw and HIV spitting cobra.

Ha!

Popps
01-14-2010, 04:50 PM
That is very true. The experience level of this Ben fellow would concern me as well. I would imagine his football knowledge is probably pretty damn good, but it is hard to replace experience. He is certainly not the kind of person I would choose, at least not after only a year on an NFL team.

If it did happen though, I don't think I would go into a deep depression about it. He might bring some fresh perspective to the position and turn out to be a pretty good coach. Everyone has to start somewhere.

I can't shake the feeling that another wave of drama is ready to hit the Omane though. Imagine the fights that would arise if McD's brother gets the job, and the running game improves.

"it was the oline!"
"It was the coach!"
"it was Orton!"
"It was not being a rookie anymore!"
"It was Hillis!"

My head hurts already


McDaniels can hire his mother to coach the RBs, as far as I'm concerned. Just get some linemen in here that can open up holes for someone.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 06:11 PM
Since you're too stupid (evidently) to read it for yourself, the thread has devolved into a witch hunt because of a hire that hasn't been made, based on a rumor by a local newspaper. Nobody's talking about who might be hired. People are talking about why McD is stupid for hiring someone he hasn't hired.

Again, if you weren't a complete moron, you might be able to read that for yourself.

Do YOU ever contribute to threads, or just b**** about other posters?

No need to respond. EVERYONE knows the answer.

And we launch right into the name calling... Again.

Seriously man, everyone's just sick of your act. Either contribute or go bitch somewhere else.

K...Thanks...Bye

broncosteven
01-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Has a hire been made yet?

No?

So why do we have a multiple page thread dissecting the move as if it's already happened?

I am guessing that if we took out all of your posts this thread would be a couple pages shorter.

If you want to complain about thread lengths then don't post in the freaking thread. Let it drop off the main page and wither and fade away.

We are used to things fading away as Bronco fans over the last 3 years.

BroncoInferno
01-14-2010, 07:10 PM
Can McDaniels at least actually hire someone before we bash his choice?

BroncoBuff
01-14-2010, 07:10 PM
We are used to things fading away as Bronco fans over the last 3 years.

"Gene eating wings" ... classic :~ohyah!:

Florida_Bronco
01-14-2010, 07:11 PM
Can McDaniels at least actually hire someone before we bash his choice?

Hell no. This is the Mane. We don't wait for those pesky "facts".

broncosteven
01-14-2010, 07:14 PM
"Gene eating wings" ... classic :~ohyah!:

I was surfing for InteRnets porn and this is what came up. The IntERnets knows all.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 07:39 PM
Can McDaniels at least actually hire someone before we bash his choice?

Hell no. This is the Mane. We don't wait for those pesky "facts".

Relax... no one is bashing any "choice"

Some people are simply saying that it would be a bad idea to promote his brother as the denver post article speculated.

You guys aren't going to do so well once the draft talk gets going. There is going to be a whole lot of "I will be pissed if we draft X player"

Now in the spirit of getting this thread back on track, who would you two like to see for either position?

BroncoInferno
01-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Relax... no one is bashing any "choice"

No one? I take it you haven't read any of BPCs posts on this topic.

Some people are simply saying that it would be a bad idea to promote his brother as the denver post article speculated.

I wouldn't like the move, either, but call me crazy, I'm going to wait until it actually happens before I get hysterical about it. Also, I think Turner is slightly overrated on this board. Not that he isn't a fine coach, but I think the OL blocking has had more to do with the success of the running game over the years than the RBs. Also, his way is the ZBS way, and if are going to move more towards a man-blocking scheme then he isn't a good fit anyway.

You guys aren't going to do so well once the draft talk gets going. There is going to be a whole lot of "I will be pissed if we draft X player"

Oh, I know. Still, the mass hysteria that prevails at times gets annoying, especially when it is over a move that hasn't happened yet and may not happen.

Now in the spirit of getting this thread back on track, who would you two like to see for either position?

It's hard to say because if you can't bring a proven commodity unless you are going to give him a promotion of some kind (assistant/associate head coach or something). Also, RB coach is not really a position with many known commodities. It's rare for a guy like Turner to stick long term as a RB coach without getting promoted. My guess is it won't be anyone we've ever heard of. But just to throw a name out there, Anthony Lynn with the Jets seems to have done a good job with an aging Thomas Jones and the youngster Shonn Green. Of course, a lot of the success in the running game has to do with OL where Callahan is one of the best OL coaches in the league.

TheDave
01-14-2010, 08:09 PM
Oh, I know. Still, the mass hysteria that prevails at times gets annoying, especially when it is over a move that hasn't happened yet and may not happen.



Like I said, God help you when the draft talk gets going... JMO, but don't worry about the hysteria. It's a board of fans, for better or worse we tend to wards hysteria. Always been that way always will.


It's hard to say because if you can't bring a proven commodity unless you are going to give him a promotion of some kind (assistant/associate head coach or something). Also, RB coach is not really a position with many known commodities. It's rare for a guy like Turner to stick long term as a RB coach without getting promoted. My guess is it won't be anyone we've ever heard of. But just to throw a name out there, Anthony Lynn with the Jets seems to have done a good job with an aging Thomas Jones and the youngster Shonn Green. Of course, a lot of the success in the running game has to do with OL where Callahan is one of the best OL coaches in the league.

That's primarily why I would like to see him go into the college ranks for both the Oline and RB coaches. Someone relatively young and hungry with a decent resume and bring them up to the pro's.

Taco John
01-21-2010, 12:30 PM
TheDave has minions now!

This place is going to hell!

SoCalBronco
01-21-2010, 12:34 PM
Don't know much about this guy...hopefully its a good hire.

I was hoping we could bring Don Soldinger out of semi-retirement for this opening, he's an excellent teacher for backs, although he has a loose cannon/ doesn't take **** from anyone personality and I'm not sure he would get along with Josh.

Requiem
01-21-2010, 12:34 PM
I was thinking Lawrence Phillips or Ki-Jana Carter for our next running back coach. :weight:

KevinJames
01-21-2010, 04:36 PM
I heard the RB coach from Buffalo

elsid13
01-21-2010, 05:00 PM
TheDave has minions now!

This place is going to hell!



Actually theDave has cult followers. They get to wear snugglies and drink wine coolers as they worship at the alter of Bea Arthur.

Mr.Meanie
01-21-2010, 05:06 PM
I like how the first couple pages are idiots who take unsubstantiated rumor and melt down and freak out like their world just collapsed. Seriously, guys?

Majik
01-21-2010, 05:50 PM
John Settle, Wisconsin: Do Wisconsin running backs make the coach or do the coaches make the running backs? Along with his position coach, P.J. Hill goes into this third year in Wisconsin. With almost 2,800 yards in two seasons, Hill is the next great Badgers runner.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/10862359

Damn right. !Booya!

SoCalBronco
01-21-2010, 10:26 PM
I was surfing for InteRnets porn and this is what came up.

Hopefully your wife didn't check your browser history........again. ;D

Once again, Gene would not be surfing the internet for porn. He would be making porn.

watermock
07-20-2010, 07:45 PM
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watermock
07-20-2010, 07:49 PM
McDaniels can hire his mother to coach the RBs, as far as I'm concerned. Just get some linemen in here that can open up holes for someone.

Classic UGG.

Hillis is gone, poor Popps.