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mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 11:35 AM
It's too soon to say who was responsible. We may never know.

But this act of terrorism recalls a series of murdered Egyptian scientists in the 1960s -- done by the Israeli Mossad. At that time Egypt was pursuing a nuclear weapons program -- but later have it up.

MHG

An Iranian nuclear physicist is murdered

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2010/01/12/iran_scientist/index.html

Tombstone RJ
01-12-2010, 11:41 AM
Cool! I'm glad if the Mossad killed the guy. And no, I didn't read the article...

Tombstone RJ
01-12-2010, 11:44 AM
Today, an Iranian nuclear scientist and professor at Tehran University, Massoud Ali Mohammadi, was killed when "when a bomb strapped to a motorcycle was triggered by remote control outside his home in the northern Tehran neighbourhood of Qeytariyeh." Mohammadi taught neutron physics and "was the author of several articles on quantum and theoretical physics in scientific journals," though the extent of his involvement in Iran's nuclear program is unclear.

Bwaaaaaaahahahaha! Oh, too bad! You mean when a jihadist kills people with a bomb, it's ok, but turn the tables and now there's a problem?

For all we know, he was killed my radical islamics! LMAO!

Garcia Bronco
01-12-2010, 11:47 AM
HE doesn't even sound like he was involved in their Nuclear weapons program.

Requiem
01-12-2010, 11:55 AM
Today, an Iranian nuclear scientist and professor at Tehran University, Massoud Ali Mohammadi, was killed when "when a bomb strapped to a motorcycle was triggered by remote control outside his home in the northern Tehran neighbourhood of Qeytariyeh." Mohammadi taught neutron physics and "was the author of several articles on quantum and theoretical physics in scientific journals," though the extent of his involvement in Iran's nuclear program is unclear.

Bwaaaaaaahahahaha! Oh, too bad! You mean when a jihadist kills people with a bomb, it's ok, but turn the tables and now there's a problem?

For all we know, he was killed my radical islamics! LMAO!

Do you believe in karma?

Rohirrim
01-12-2010, 12:32 PM
What a political hack Greenwald is. He writes an entire article filled with inuendo and indictment, condemning the U.S. and then, in the last update, discovers that the guy wasn't a nuclear scientist for Iran at all, and all he can say is, "Nevermind." Ha!

And look at Gaff. It's Mossad! Run for your life! This attack probably had nothing to do with the U.S. or Israel in the least. Probably much more to do with the political divisions going on in Iran. Just shows how quick Gaffer is to pull the old "The Jews did it!" trigger.

Here's the final Greenwald update:

A new article from The Washington Post -- under the headline: "Iranian nuclear physicist killed in bombing" -- provides many more details on Mohammadi's work. Despite that provocative headline and the Post's calling him "an Iranian nuclear scientist" in the first sentence, the article provides additional facts for doubting any direct involvement in Iran's nuclear program. The preponderance of evidence seems to suggest that he was a theoretical physicist, or particle physicist, unlikely to have been involved in any nuclear research for the government. The Post article, however, also includes facts refuting the claim from many of the Iranian regime's most vocal critics that Mohammadi was an opponent of the regime and supporter of Mousavi (thus implying that it was the Iranian government itself which killed him):


Colleagues who worked closely with Ali-Mohammadi described him as a serious scientist who had no interest in politics. "He completely immersed in his research and teaching," one colleague said. "If he had any political ideas, they were so well kept secret that none of his colleagues or students were aware of it."

Ali Maghari, the head of Tehran University's science department, also told the semiofficial Mehr news agency that Ali-Mohammadi "was not political and had no political activities."


The Post article also includes some innuendo that because Mohammadi belonged to a federation of scientists that included some Israelis, he may have been killed by the Iranian government as retaliation.

Any comments, Gaff?

bpc
01-12-2010, 12:45 PM
What a political hack Greenwald is. He writes an entire article filled with inuendo and indictment, condemning the U.S. and then, in the last update, discovers that the guy wasn't a nuclear scientist for Iran at all, and all he can say is, "Nevermind." Ha!

And look at Gaff. It's Mossad! Run for your life! This attack probably had nothing to do with the U.S. or Israel in the least. Probably much more to do with the political divisions going on in Iran. Just shows how quick Gaffer is to pull the old "The Jews did it!" trigger.

Here's the final Greenwald update:

A new article from The Washington Post -- under the headline: "Iranian nuclear physicist killed in bombing" -- provides many more details on Mohammadi's work. Despite that provocative headline and the Post's calling him "an Iranian nuclear scientist" in the first sentence, the article provides additional facts for doubting any direct involvement in Iran's nuclear program. The preponderance of evidence seems to suggest that he was a theoretical physicist, or particle physicist, unlikely to have been involved in any nuclear research for the government. The Post article, however, also includes facts refuting the claim from many of the Iranian regime's most vocal critics that Mohammadi was an opponent of the regime and supporter of Mousavi (thus implying that it was the Iranian government itself which killed him):


Colleagues who worked closely with Ali-Mohammadi described him as a serious scientist who had no interest in politics. "He completely immersed in his research and teaching," one colleague said. "If he had any political ideas, they were so well kept secret that none of his colleagues or students were aware of it."

Ali Maghari, the head of Tehran University's science department, also told the semiofficial Mehr news agency that Ali-Mohammadi "was not political and had no political activities."


The Post article also includes some innuendo that because Mohammadi belonged to a federation of scientists that included some Israelis, he may have been killed by the Iranian government as retaliation.

Any comments, Gaff?

It's sad to laugh at this but I did get a chuckle out of it.

CONSPIRACYS!!! THEY'RE EVERY WHERE!

broncocalijohn
01-12-2010, 12:46 PM
was it a suicide bomber? Said something about a motorcycler triggering the explosives. If that was the case, no way Israelis did it. Seems a possible in country problem there McGoof.

ant1999e
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
It's sad to laugh at this but I did get a chuckle out of it.

CONSPIRACYS!!! THEY'RE EVERY WHERE!

Oh the irony.LOL

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 01:49 PM
As I stated -- too early to know the details.

You are the goofs -- jumping to conclusions.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 01:53 PM
You guys are sooo sad.

Here we are on the verge of Armageddon -- it can literally happen any day. Yet, each one of you continues to cultivate -- oh so carefully -- your own little garden of denial.

As if everything were hunky dory. Pitiful.

TheDave
01-12-2010, 01:57 PM
I smell a new book...

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 02:04 PM
Check out this piece from the London Times.

An Israeli general just went on record -- in a new book -- affirming what I have been saying for many months. That Iran is a long long way from building the bomb.

This Israeli general is no doubt a dissenter, today, in Israel. He is speaking an inconvenient truth.

His testimony flatly contracts all the hype we see in the US media -- and on this board -- much of which comes from Zionists and from the Israeli government.

This general was once in charge of Israel's nuke program. To his credit -- the general argued against attacking the Iraqi Osirak reactor in 1981 - -even tho he was over ruled. HIndsight proved him correct in that case. In 1981 Saddam Hussein did NOT have a bomb program. At least, there is no evidence of one.

But Israel's 1981 terror raid -- actually motivated Saddam to get serious about a bomb.
MHG

The Sunday Times
January 10, 2010
Israeli general Brigadier-General Uzi Eilam denies Iran is nuclear threat

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6982447.ece

SPfloppy
01-12-2010, 02:07 PM
IF Israel had this guy wacked than it shows yet again how they have the will and the stomach to do what needs to be done and the US dosn't. If he had an involvement with thier nuclear program and was in anyway a lynchpin to it's success than I say job well done and heynanniceshot...what a good shot man

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 02:09 PM
So what do the scare mongers have to say in response???

This man flatly contradicts Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu -- and the entire Israeli defense establishment.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 02:11 PM
hey Flop -- it really gets crazy when the wack jobs start to believe their own propaganda.

Here is an honest man who rips away the veil -- and shows that the emperor has no clothes/

Is any one out there listening?

Rohirrim
01-12-2010, 02:11 PM
So what do the scare mongers have to say in response???

This man flatly contradicts Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu -- and the entire Israeli defense establishment.

I say you got caught out with your pants down so now you're trying to change the subject.

weak

broncocalijohn
01-12-2010, 02:12 PM
So what do the scare mongers have to say in response???

This man flatly contradicts Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu -- and the entire Israeli defense establishment.

How is he getting the Iran info? The only ties I see would be that the guy was murdered based on info that Tehran isnt close to having the nuclear bomb and wanted him not to leak that info out. That could be plausible.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 02:16 PM
Ro,

You are a loon. It's the same subject.

We know for a fact that the CIA is promoting terror strikes inside IRan.

We know for a fact that the US violates Iranian airspace - almost every day.

We know for a fact that the US Congress wants to impose an even stiffer economic embargo against Iran -- an act of war.

We know for a fact that the US engaged in the wholesale slaughter of Iraqis -- just next door to Iran.

I guess you been sleep walking through the last eight years.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 02:17 PM
It's time to step back from the brink.

This is the message of this thread.

Bronx33
01-12-2010, 02:26 PM
Do you believe in karma?


Radical islam obviously don't :clown:

elsid13
01-12-2010, 02:52 PM
was it a suicide bomber? Said something about a motorcycler triggering the explosives. If that was the case, no way Israelis did it. Seems a possible in country problem there McGoof.

It appears it was remotely operated bomb placed in motorcycle.

DBruleU
01-12-2010, 03:19 PM
IF Israel had this guy wacked than it shows yet again how they have the will and the stomach to do what needs to be done and the US dosn't. If he had an involvement with thier nuclear program and was in anyway a lynchpin to it's success than I say job well done and heynanniceshot...what a good shot man

Exactly. The Mossad does what we should be doing. Eliminating who needs to be eliminated.

Bronx33
01-12-2010, 03:47 PM
IF Israel had this guy wacked than it shows yet again how they have the will and the stomach to do what needs to be done and the obama doesn't. If he had an involvement with thier nuclear program and was in anyway a lynchpin to it's success than I say job well done and heynanniceshot...what a good shot man


fixed

Tombstone RJ
01-12-2010, 03:55 PM
Check out this piece from the London Times.

An Israeli general just went on record -- in a new book -- affirming what I have been saying for many months. That Iran is a long long way from building the bomb.

This Israeli general is no doubt a dissenter, today, in Israel. He is speaking an inconvenient truth.

His testimony flatly contracts all the hype we see in the US media -- and on this board -- much of which comes from Zionists and from the Israeli government.

This general was once in charge of Israel's nuke program. To his credit -- the general argued against attacking the Iraqi Osirak reactor in 1981 - -even tho he was over ruled. HIndsight proved him correct in that case. In 1981 Saddam Hussein did NOT have a bomb program. At least, there is no evidence of one.

But Israel's 1981 terror raid -- actually motivated Saddam to get serious about a bomb.
MHG

The Sunday Times
January 10, 2010
Israeli general Brigadier-General Uzi Eilam denies Iran is nuclear threat

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6982447.ece

Gaf, here is my official position on this general:

Good for this general to have an opinion. He lives in a Democracy in the Middle East where his opinion will not get him killed by his own government.

You see gaf, in a "Democracy" people have the right to have "a different opinion" and still yah know, LIVE.

If this general believes there's no nukes in iran, good for him. However, there may be many, many, many other opinions within the Israeli government that does not agree with this general's opinion.

Strange how that works, eh? A democracy where all voices are heard. One guy has a different opinion, he expresses that opinion, and he voices that opinion...

Gaf, your just an anti-Israel hate monger, and little more. Oh, and that is MHO.

Tombstone RJ
01-12-2010, 04:01 PM
So what do the scare mongers have to say in response???

This man flatly contradicts Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu -- and the entire Israeli defense establishment.

Your the scare monger. Point that finger right back at yourself there buddy.

As for this general and his opinion, good for him! He lives in a Democracy that allows his opinion to be heard.

I know you don't understand that concept because your gonna defend the jihadists who want to kill all of us, and you too, but that's ok.

You just keep living in that dream world you call reality. :yayaya:

Bronx33
01-12-2010, 04:17 PM
It's obvious gaff simply hates jews.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 05:32 PM
Who are the folks screaming for war? Not me.

Those are the hate mongers. Not me.

What about this don't you clowns understand?

If you believe that peace activists are the scare mongers -- it only shows how uninformed and ignorant YOU are.

I suppose this this is normal in our world of Orwell - where war = peace.

epicSocialism4tw
01-12-2010, 05:33 PM
Its the Jews! International Jew conspiracy!

Rohirrim
01-12-2010, 05:59 PM
Ro,

You are a loon. It's the same subject.

We know for a fact that the CIA is promoting terror strikes inside IRan.

We know for a fact that the US violates Iranian airspace - almost every day.

We know for a fact that the US Congress wants to impose an even stiffer economic embargo against Iran -- an act of war.

We know for a fact that the US engaged in the wholesale slaughter of Iraqis -- just next door to Iran.

I guess you been sleep walking through the last eight years.

We also know that if Iran created atomic weapons they would give one to Hamas and/or Hezbollah who would then set it off in Tel Aviv (if not New York) starting WWIII.

So yeah, we probably shouldn't do anything about it.

mhgaffney
01-12-2010, 09:28 PM
Ro,

The issue is moot -- since Iran does not have nukes. The ONLY state in the region with nukes is Israel.

You should be concerned about Israel using them --especially since they are aimed at the whole world. Sy Hersh covered it in the title of his book about Israel's nuke program -- the Samson Option.

Yet you have never shown any concern about this.

What is the matter with you?

gyldenlove
01-13-2010, 08:20 AM
This guy can't have been a real nuclear physicist. A real nuclear physicist would not die so easily, they are like superman wrapped in the batman suit who just ate a solid helping of kick ass with a side of beans. Superheros eat beans, as do physicists.

SPfloppy
01-13-2010, 08:25 AM
fixed

Hey man funny fix but not completely accurate. I was downrange when the Bush kept his hand on the collar of the US Marine corp and combat hardened army troopers and wouldn't let them storm the mosque at An Najaf depite it being a legal target according to the law of armed conflic and the laws of land warefare also the geneva conventions if you want the original source for the last two. I can give both Obama and Bush credit for unleashing the beast at least one time each. For Bush Operation Phantom fury was a great move(too bad it had to happen at all) the ramp up for this was huge and I watched load after load of blood, med supplies and GI caskets get shipped north because they thought we were gonna take alot of losses. They censored media coverage, limited enbedded reporters and just let loose. 5 days over 1200 killed or captured.

Obama's came when he loosed Navy Seals with deadly force authorized onto Somali pirates. Good for him. But if he'd like to avoid the more lasting rep of inept war fighting that Bush had, he may like to consider a better stance on Afganistan.

mhgaffney
01-13-2010, 05:28 PM
Flop,

IMO the bigger problem is Pakistan. If Pakistani patriots believe the US wants to seize their nukes and overthrow their government --

this thing can blow up -- out of bounds-- into something very very ugly --

Bush was bad enough. Obama escalating the war is like opening Pandora's Box.

The US is flirting with a nuclear disaster.

Bronx33
01-13-2010, 05:42 PM
Hey man funny fix but not completely accurate. I was downrange when the Bush kept his hand on the collar of the US Marine corp and combat hardened army troopers and wouldn't let them storm the mosque at An Najaf depite it being a legal target according to the law of armed conflic and the laws of land warefare also the geneva conventions if you want the original source for the last two. I can give both Obama and Bush credit for unleashing the beast at least one time each. For Bush Operation Phantom fury was a great move(too bad it had to happen at all) the ramp up for this was huge and I watched load after load of blood, med supplies and GI caskets get shipped north because they thought we were gonna take alot of losses. They censored media coverage, limited enbedded reporters and just let loose. 5 days over 1200 killed or captured.

Obama's came when he loosed Navy Seals with deadly force authorized onto Somali pirates. Good for him. But if he'd like to avoid the more lasting rep of inept war fighting that Bush had, he may like to consider a better stance on Afganistan.

I hear ya but loosening the ROE restrictions would speed things up vastly in afganistan and save numerous US lives.

mhgaffney
01-13-2010, 05:45 PM
Bronx is the typical arrogant ignorant American male. NO doubt, he's a big fan of John shoot em up Wayne.

Bronx33
01-13-2010, 05:58 PM
Bronx is the typical arrogant ignorant American male. NO doubt, he's a big fan of John shoot em up Wayne.


Iam interested in kicking the living f*** out of Al-Qaeda/taliban so they never recover and then getting the f*** out of afganistan and iam positive our boys over there agree. I also think our goverment/politics is slowing down the process with ROE.

ps: JOHN WAYNE RULES!!