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Ramathorn
01-12-2010, 09:26 AM
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NEW YORK -- In his own view, Charles Woodson put together his best pro season in 2009. How appropriate, then, that he is The Associated Press 2009 NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

The versatile Woodson tied for the league lead with nine interceptions, returning three for touchdowns, and was a key to the Packers' turnaround on defense. His role in Green Bay's performance -- second in the league in overall defense, first in interceptions (30), takeaways (40) and turnover margin (plus-24) -- earned Woodson 28 votes Tuesday from a nationwide panel of 50 sportswriters and broadcasters who cover the NFL.


NOT EVEN CLOSE
Charles Woodson, in voting by a national panel of 50 sportswriters and broadcasters, is only the second Green Bay Packer to win in the 36-year history of the award.

Player Votes
Charles Woodson, CB, Packers 28
Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets 14
Elvis Dumervil, LB, Broncos 3
Darren Sharper, S, Saints 3
Jared Allen, DE, Vikings 2

"Yeah, it's the best," Woodson said of his performance this season. "There's no question about it. I was hesitant to say it early on this year; just consistent play, playing at a high level every week, turnovers, playing multiple positions and playing them well. Combine that with just going out there and having fun, and this is definitely the best."

He doubled the number of votes for New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis in becoming the first Green Bay winner since Reggie White in 1998 and just the second Packer in the 36-year history of the award.

Woodson, the 1997 Heisman Trophy recipient, is the first cornerback chosen as the top defensive player since Deion Sanders in 1994.

He got the honor in great part because of the way he anchored a defense in transition. Woodson was used in a variety of ways by new defensive coordinator Dom Capers as Green Bay made the switch to a 3-4. At times, the unit was shaky -- except for Woodson, who played the role of cover cornerback, blitzer, run-stuffer and ballhawk.

"Any time you go out there on the field, you go out there to win the game, of course," Woodson said, "but you go out there to be consistent and a reliable player. And that's what that award is. You go out there, you can make plays and can continue to make them through the season and you're mentioned as far as being Defensive Player of the Year, you know you're doing some things right."

The Packers went 11-5 during the season, including taking seven of eight games in the second half of the schedule to secure an NFC wild-card berth. In that span, Green Bay allowed 15.6 points per game. Take away a last-second 37-36 loss to Pittsburgh, and the number becomes a minuscule 11.4.

Woodson had 63 unassisted tackles and 18 assists, according to the Packers, plus 21 passes defensed, four forced fumbles and one recovery, two sacks for 18 yards and three quarterback hits.

"I've said it before, he's had two or three games that I can't imagine any defensive player in the league having better games," said Capers, who also coached Rod Woodson (1993) and Jason Taylor (2006) when they won the award. "I think it speaks volumes when he was player of the month in September and came back and got player of the month again [in November]."

In his third season, Revis established himself as the league's premier cornerback, taking away such prime threats as Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Terrell Owens, Chad Ochocinco and Marques Colston. He had six picks, returning one for a TD.

Denver linebacker Elvis Dumervil, who led the league in sacks, and New Orleans safety Darren Sharper, who tied with Woodson for the interceptions lead and also ran back three for scores, each got three votes. Minnesota end Jared Allen received the other two votes.

Rohirrim
01-12-2010, 09:29 AM
Can't disagree with that. Woodson had an amazing year. Revis shut down 85 in the playoffs. Doom will get his time in the sun.

McDman
01-12-2010, 09:37 AM
This is about right. Although Doom had the most sacks, there were key times in ames where he was nowhere to be found.

oubronco
01-12-2010, 09:38 AM
This is about right. Although Doom had the most sacks, there were key times in ames where he was nowhere to be found.

and a liability against the run

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 09:45 AM
I have no problem with them getting the D MVP over dumervil. What I have a problem with is that Jason Taylor got the D MVP over champ a few years ago. Champ had 10 picks that year while Woodson and Revis had like 8 this year. Champ had one of the best years of a CB with 10 picks and he was the least thrown at CB in the league. How he had 10 picks still I dont know, its just amazing.

I think Jason Taylor had 18 or 19 sacks that year, while Dumervil had 17.5 this year. Whats up with that?

Hercules Rockefeller
01-12-2010, 09:46 AM
Woodson completely deserved it. Congrats to him.

bpc
01-12-2010, 09:50 AM
I'll agree that Elvis had some tough stretches against the run but the 'no where to be found' comment is bull****. Elvis showed up to play every week, even you guys didn't see it in the stat categories.

Fact is, nobody could offer a consistent rush opposite of him, so offenses could key on him.

I do agree Woodson and Revis deserved the top 2 spots though.

Garcia Bronco
01-12-2010, 10:19 AM
Dummervil Won 3-4 games for us in the 4th quarter by shutting down the other teams offense. Disappeared my ace.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:20 AM
Higher than I thought Elvis would be. Hard to see him as DPOY when he's been shut down and completely disappeared in games, the same goes for Allen. I think the three DB's probably best 3 in the league this year.

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 10:22 AM
I'll agree that Elvis had some tough stretches against the run but the 'no where to be found' comment is bull****. Elvis showed up to play every week, even you guys didn't see it in the stat categories.

Fact is, nobody could offer a consistent rush opposite of him, so offenses could key on him.

I do agree Woodson and Revis deserved the top 2 spots though.


I agree, Elvis was in there almost every play he rushed. He was held all season long. It seemed to me he was held on every play.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:24 AM
Dummervil Won 3-4 games for us in the 4th quarter by shutting down the other teams offense. Disappeared my ace.

In the last 4 games he showed up against Philly, but in the other 3...4 tackles, no sacks. Against Oakland, KC, and Indy. I'll give him Indy, but Oakland and KC.

PRBronco
01-12-2010, 10:25 AM
I agree, Elvis was in there almost every play he rushed. He was held all season long. It seemed to me he was held on every play.

Not every play...he also got illegal hands to the face quite often ;)

Garcia Bronco
01-12-2010, 10:25 AM
In the last 4 games he showed up against Philly, but in the other 3...4 tackles, no sacks. Against Oakland, KC, and Indy. I'll give him Indy, but Oakland and KC.

You don't know what his role was on any given play. You would have to know the play call. You would have to know his assignment. It isn't always....rush the passer. Further more he gets facemasked and held on just about every play when he does rush the passer.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:26 AM
I agree, Elvis was in there almost every play he rushed. He was held all season long. It seemed to me he was held on every play.

The difference between a quality pass rusher and an average pass rusher is overcoming that ability and using moves to beat it.

I live in the frigid north and am forced to see the Vikes constantly. I know that Allen is a DE and Elvis is TECHNICALLY an OLB, but he has great moves and constantly gets held, infact a portion of his sacks and tackles include the OL that is still holding on to him.

Garcia Bronco
01-12-2010, 10:27 AM
The difference between a quality pass rusher and an average pass rusher is overcoming that ability and using moves to beat it.

I live in the frigid north and am forced to see the Vikes constantly. I know that Allen is a DE and Elvis is TECHNICALLY an OLB, but he has great moves and constantly gets held, infact a portion of his sacks and tackles include the OL that is still holding on to him.

Jared is good, but look inside and you'll see the secret to his success.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:30 AM
You don't know what his role was on any given play. You would have to know the play call. You would have to know his assignment. It isn't always....rush the passer. Further more he gets facemasked and held on just about every play when he does rush the passer.

So the 5 tackles and 2 sacks the first time vs Oak and 6 tackles and a sack vs KC the first time he didn't? Or the other games he didnt'? My point is if you want to be DPOY or MVP you make plays 16 games out of the year. I don't disagree with the point that he made plays during several other games that resulted in us winning.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:31 AM
Jared is good, but look inside and you'll see the secret to his success.

Agreed...you can't double team 3 players on the front 4...with the 2 williams and allen, their dline is awesome. And I think if we get a nose that occupies blocks better we not only will see better play from Elvis, but from our LBs

DivineLegion
01-12-2010, 10:36 AM
This is where getting a guy like Brian Price would really change the dinamic of this defense. If we had a guy who could really command attention next to Elvis as well as Ron Fields we could really free up our inside linebackers and start getting even more creative with our blitz's. I just stated my feelings on Fields in the Rolando McClain thread, and the effect a playmaking DE would have on our front 7. We were very successful with our inside blitz's in the first half of the season but as the season wore on and our lack of rotation along the defensive line took effect we had trouble bring our inside backers to force QBs outside.

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 10:40 AM
Not every play...he also got illegal hands to the face quite often ;)


I totally agree, I saw that a bunch too that wasnt called.

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 10:42 AM
The difference between a quality pass rusher and an average pass rusher is overcoming that ability and using moves to beat it.
I live in the frigid north and am forced to see the Vikes constantly. I know that Allen is a DE and Elvis is TECHNICALLY an OLB, but he has great moves and constantly gets held, infact a portion of his sacks and tackles include the OL that is still holding on to him.


Right, which is why Elivs overcame that ability and used moves to beat it 17.5 times and lead the NFL in it.

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 10:43 AM
Right, which is why Elivs overcame that ability and used moves to beat it 17.5 times and lead the NFL in it.

And completely disappeared against the Raiders and Chefs.

BroncoMan4ever
01-12-2010, 10:50 AM
and a liability against the run

he is actually getting better at that. i think having a couple extra yards between the LOS and him has given him the chance to see a run develop and give him the extra second or 2 to react and try to get into position. he still needs to work on that aspect of his game, but has gotten better

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 10:59 AM
And completely disappeared against the Raiders and Chefs.


Jared Allen disapeared against the Bears and Cardinals, is he average?

bpc
01-12-2010, 11:29 AM
I'm amazed by the stupidity of some fans. It pretty much goes without saying around here but you go on missingbraincells, keep telling us about how Doom sucked and how he didn't make any plays against the Raiders or chiefs to end the season...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8151d557/Bailey-picks-off-Frye

BTW, tell me who pressured C. Frye and forced a Champ Bailey INT? Go on now... rewind it... go real slow... if that's too hard to watch for you, listen to the commentators, they'll break it down as well for you since simple things escape you.

That turnover gives us a 10 pt lead in the first. Those points lead us to a victory. Unfortunately our offense crapped the pot as McDaniels called his favorite OT screen play.

You're a buffoon.

Elvis made tons of plays. Some of those plays don't get recorded as stats, some are also penalties which for the most part NEVER got called against opposing players for some reason this year.

UberBroncoMan
01-12-2010, 11:37 AM
I have no problem with them getting the D MVP over dumervil. What I have a problem with is that Jason Taylor got the D MVP over champ a few years ago. Champ had 10 picks that year while Woodson and Revis had like 8 this year. Champ had one of the best years of a CB with 10 picks and he was the least thrown at CB in the league. How he had 10 picks still I dont know, its just amazing.

I think Jason Taylor had 18 or 19 sacks that year, while Dumervil had 17.5 this year. Whats up with that?

Taylor also forced NINE FUMBLES, and had two TD's... he only had 13.5 sacks though.

I still think Champ deserved it, but there's no denying that Taylor had a ridiculous year.

SoDak Bronco
01-12-2010, 11:40 AM
Can someone explain how in 2006 Jason Taylor wins Defensive POTY with when he recorded 13.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, and two interceptions (both of which were returned for touchdowns)-Dolphins record-5-11(missed playoffs).

Same year Champ Bailey has 10 INTS to lead the league, Bailey also did not give up a touchdown during the season. He was barely targeted by the opposing QB's, I think it was like 35 times with only 4 completitions during the season. I think it is a joke how Denver players are continually overlooked for awards and accolades. (2 HOFamers is a joke).

I am not saying I think Elvis deserved the award over Woodson or Revis, but what Champ did in 2006 was much more impressive then what they did this year. Taylor's stats weren't any more impressive then Doom's, but he wins the award. Congrats to Elvis on a great year, if you played in another town you probably would've won the award.

Dagmar
01-12-2010, 11:44 AM
Can someone explain how in 2006 Jason Taylor wins Defensive POTY with when he recorded 13.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, and two interceptions (both of which were returned for touchdowns)-Dolphins record-5-11(missed playoffs).

Same year Champ Bailey has 10 INTS to lead the league, Bailey also did not give up a touchdown during the season. He was barely targeted by the opposing QB's, I think it was like 35 times with only 4 completitions during the season. I think it is a joke how Denver players are continually overlooked for awards and accolades. (2 HOFamers is a joke).

I am not saying I think Elvis deserved the award over Woodson or Revis, but what Champ did in 2006 was much more impressive then what they did this year. Taylor's stats weren't any more impressive then Doom's, but he wins the award. Congrats to Elvis on a great year, if you played in another town you probably would've won the award.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't tell him that!

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 11:45 AM
I'm amazed by the stupidity of some fans. It pretty much goes without saying around here but you go on missingbraincells, keep telling us about how Doom sucked and how he didn't make any plays against the Raiders or chiefs to end the season...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8151d557/Bailey-picks-off-Frye

BTW, tell me who pressured C. Frye and forced a Champ Bailey INT? Go on now... rewind it... go real slow... if that's too hard to watch for you, listen to the commentators, they'll break it down as well for you since simple things escape you.

That turnover gives us a 10 pt lead in the first. Those points lead us to a victory. Unfortunately our offense crapped the pot as McDaniels called his favorite OT screen play.

You're a buffoon.

Elvis made tons of plays. Some of those plays don't get recorded as stats, some are also penalties which for the most part NEVER got called against opposing players for some reason this year.

1 play. And the entire pocket was collapsing...getting pressure up the middle on a twist. Great move. Any others from that game? Thought so.

I'm not saying that Elvis isn't good...I'm not saying Elvis sucks...I am saying that Elvis got more votes for DPOY than I thought he would. And everyone here is crying about how he got held and people cheated on this and that. But the fact is that when the game was on the line at the end of the season he struggled and blended in to become an essential non factor.

And you Neglect the factor that Jamarcus sat in the pocket and chewed us up on the last drive with no pressure and all day to throw in the 4th Q of that game. But thats OK...selective amnesia comes from having ones head up said ass.

bpc
01-12-2010, 11:54 AM
Hey I watched the game. He seriously was held 7 or 8 times. There were times when he had hands to face, holding, yanked from behind, still, no calls. You're gonna believe, what you want to believe. Hate the man all you want. He's the reason WHY we were even relevant for the 1st half of the season on defense. When teams started to create ways to stop him, and our unit got tired from being out on the field so much, they succombed. There was nobody opposite of him which could generate consistent pass rush.

gyldenlove
01-12-2010, 11:57 AM
Can someone explain how in 2006 Jason Taylor wins Defensive POTY with when he recorded 13.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, and two interceptions (both of which were returned for touchdowns)-Dolphins record-5-11(missed playoffs).

Same year Champ Bailey has 10 INTS to lead the league, Bailey also did not give up a touchdown during the season. He was barely targeted by the opposing QB's, I think it was like 35 times with only 4 completitions during the season. I think it is a joke how Denver players are continually overlooked for awards and accolades. (2 HOFamers is a joke).

I am not saying I think Elvis deserved the award over Woodson or Revis, but what Champ did in 2006 was much more impressive then what they did this year. Taylor's stats weren't any more impressive then Doom's, but he wins the award. Congrats to Elvis on a great year, if you played in another town you probably would've won the award.

East coast bias?

When was the last time a player not playing in the eastern time zone won a major award?

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 12:30 PM
East coast bias?

When was the last time a player not playing in the eastern time zone won a major award?

2009 Woodson

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Can someone explain how in 2006 Jason Taylor wins Defensive POTY with when he recorded 13.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, and two interceptions (both of which were returned for touchdowns)-Dolphins record-5-11(missed playoffs).

Same year Champ Bailey has 10 INTS to lead the league, Bailey also did not give up a touchdown during the season. He was barely targeted by the opposing QB's, I think it was like 35 times with only 4 completitions during the season. I think it is a joke how Denver players are continually overlooked for awards and accolades. (2 HOFamers is a joke).

I am not saying I think Elvis deserved the award over Woodson or Revis, but what Champ did in 2006 was much more impressive then what they did this year. Taylor's stats weren't any more impressive then Doom's, but he wins the award. Congrats to Elvis on a great year, if you played in another town you probably would've won the award.


i said this in post # 5, beat ya to it,hahah just messin,

except i didnt look up the stats, taylor only had 13 sacks? thats pathetic

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 12:32 PM
and our unit got tired from being out on the field so much, they succombed. There was nobody opposite of him which could generate consistent pass rush.

That and looking back at some of the highlights from the KC game he wasn't on the field in some of the long runs. We need a solid starting group and some depth. I think that he will only get better, but look for some of our other DL to have bigger years next year as he will see more doubles and lots of backfield chips.

SouthStndJunkie
01-12-2010, 12:32 PM
Props to Charles Woodson....he deserved to win the award this year.

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 12:32 PM
1 play. And the entire pocket was collapsing...getting pressure up the middle on a twist. Great move. Any others from that game? Thought so.

I'm not saying that Elvis isn't good...I'm not saying Elvis sucks...I am saying that Elvis got more votes for DPOY than I thought he would. And everyone here is crying about how he got held and people cheated on this and that. But the fact is that when the game was on the line at the end of the season he struggled and blended in to become an essential non factor.

And you Neglect the factor that Jamarcus sat in the pocket and chewed us up on the last drive with no pressure and all day to throw in the 4th Q of that game. But thats OK...selective amnesia comes from having ones head up said ass.

im not sayin Elivs should get MVP over the CB's, but Champ should have gotten it over Taylor, see my post # 5

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 12:34 PM
Taylor also forced NINE FUMBLES, and had two TD's... he only had 13.5 sacks though.

I still think Champ deserved it, but there's no denying that Taylor had a ridiculous year.



Ya, back then when Champ should have won, i said to myself "oh they must favor the NFL sack leader" -

well now that dumervil is in the running, now all the sudden they favor INT's and CB's

DivineLegion
01-12-2010, 12:38 PM
Charles Woodson deserved to win though, he was used in every way possible and put up ungodly numbers.

oubronco
01-12-2010, 12:43 PM
2009 Woodson

owned :rofl:

Ramathorn
01-12-2010, 01:04 PM
I have no problem with them getting the D MVP over dumervil. What I have a problem with is that Jason Taylor got the D MVP over champ a few years ago. Champ had 10 picks that year while Woodson and Revis had like 8 this year. Champ had one of the best years of a CB with 10 picks and he was the least thrown at CB in the league. How he had 10 picks still I dont know, its just amazing.

I think Jason Taylor had 18 or 19 sacks that year, while Dumervil had 17.5 this year. Whats up with that?

I completely agree with this entire post. Champ should have won that year. It left me shaking my head when they announced taylor.

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 01:29 PM
Charles Woodson deserved to win though, he was used in every way possible and put up ungodly numbers.


I agree, just the way champ had it a few years ago

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I completely agree with this entire post. Champ should have won that year. It left me shaking my head when they announced taylor.


Ya now in 2009 they favor INT's and not sacks. Whats up with the Bronco hate?

gyldenlove
01-12-2010, 01:32 PM
2009 Woodson

Wisconsin is a pubic hair from being in the Eastern time zone, but fair enough.

✡✡ JOSHUA ✡✡
01-12-2010, 01:33 PM
owned :rofl:

Meanwhile, missingnumber7 got pwned by bpc and Peoples Champ

bpc, Peoples Champ > missingnumber7 > gyldenlove

missingnumber7
01-12-2010, 01:51 PM
Wisconsin is a pubic hair from being in the Eastern time zone, but fair enough.

Prior to that though 07 Peterson OROY and Patrick Willis DROY. But it isn't Eastern Time zone bias...its East Coast Bias

d bronx42
01-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Woodson is not only a beast on the field but hes pretty freaking awesome off the field too...

Idk if you guys ever read the article but he donated 2 million dollars to the Childrens Hospital in Michigan during Thanksgiving this season. Its pretty hard to not root for a guy like him.

Here's the article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?prov=ap&slug=ap-woodsonsgift&type=lgns

Peoples Champ
01-12-2010, 02:21 PM
Woodson is not only a beast on the field but hes pretty freaking awesome off the field too...

Idk if you guys ever read the article but he donated 2 million dollars to the Childrens Hospital in Michigan during Thanksgiving this season. Its pretty hard to not root for a guy like him.

Here's the article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?prov=ap&slug=ap-woodsonsgift&type=lgns


ya woodson should take it, just like champ should have a few years ago.

SportinOne
01-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Jared is good, but look inside and you'll see the secret to his success.

I disagree. I get what you are saying but the man is just a beast. He didn't have much help in KC and he still got it done. Dumervill is a heck of a player, too. If we can get him some help he might not get to 18 or 20 but he won't need to. It will make the defense that much better. Imagine being able to consistently close the pocket like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Dallas.

We need the opposite of this on offense. And a new QB.

kmartin575
01-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Jared is good, but look inside and you'll see the secret to his success.

So what's the excuse for his years in KC? His highest season sack total is still in 2007 with the Chiefs when he had 15.5. You can't say "look inside and you'll see the secret to his success" with those numbers. Also look at how our sack totals plummeted from 37 in 2007 to 10 in 2008 and I think you get an idea of how much of an impact he had on our pass rush. Jared is in no way a product of the players around him.

rbackfactory80
01-12-2010, 05:55 PM
owned :rofl:

Really. How about Manning every year? How about Freeny? Give me a break with that stupidity.