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Rulon Velvet Jones
01-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Longtime Denver running backs coach Bobby Turner is on the verge of heading to Washington to join Mike Shanahan’s staff.

According to an NFL source, Shanahan has offered Turner the title of associate head coach, which would be a promotion from the job he has held in Denver for the past 15 years.

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels initially denied Shanahan’s request to interview Turner, but relented with Shanahan came back with a promotion for Turner.

Turner was among the only holdovers from Shanahan’s staff when McDaniels was hired a year ago. Another, offensive line coach Rick Dennison, also appears headed out of town. Dennison is a leading candidate to be the offensive coordinator on Gary Kubiak’s staff in Houston. If Dennison is offered and accepts that role, he would replace Kyle Shanahan, who has already been hired on his father’s staff in Washington.

Turner is widely considered one of the premiere running backs coaches in the league. He has coached Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Clinton Portis, Rueben Droughns, Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell all to 1,000-yard seasons in his tenure in Denver.

The Broncos have not had a 1,000-yard rusher since Bell, in 2006. Rookie Knowshon Moreno finished 53 yards shy of 1,000 this year.

RhymesayersDU
01-11-2010, 07:54 PM
Well why not.

SoDak Bronco
01-11-2010, 08:09 PM
Best of Luck to Bobby..kinda sucks Shanny is giving him a bogus title of "assistant head coach", but hey, he is working for a man with really deep pockets.

tsiguy96
01-11-2010, 08:11 PM
Best of Luck to Bobby..kinda sucks Shanny is giving him a bogus title of "assistant head coach", but hey, he is working for a man with really deep pockets.

again, just because its a promotion does not mean we HAVE to let him interview for job. only for head coaching opportunities can broncos not stop him from interviewing.

DivineLegion
01-11-2010, 08:14 PM
This sucks, if Bobby goes I think im going to be spending the next 6 years living life like a scorned lover. This whole mess is like watching your ex-wife **** another guy while you jack off to porn.

Hogan11
01-11-2010, 08:15 PM
We got over Alex Gibbs leaving, we'll get over Turner leaving as well....eventually.

Ray Finkle
01-11-2010, 08:15 PM
again, just because its a promotion does not mean we HAVE to let him interview for job. only for head coaching opportunities can broncos not stop him from interviewing.

typically if a coach is offered a promotion, the team will let him out of his contract.....it's an under the table agreement.

tsiguy96
01-11-2010, 08:27 PM
typically if a coach is offered a promotion, the team will let him out of his contract.....it's an under the table agreement.

most of teh time yes as its basically an unwritten rule, but not all the time and it most definitely is not required to allow them to interview, a few times this year coaches have not been granted permission. this move is essentially a lateral move regardless of what shanahan labels it, thats probably why it was initially denied, who knows.

OBF1
01-11-2010, 08:39 PM
I hear that Washington is going to give us their 3rd round pick for Turner.

bronco militia
01-11-2010, 08:52 PM
the magic has been gone for years and the grand wizard was fired a year ago.

It's probably time to move on

bronco militia
01-11-2010, 08:57 PM
I hear that Washington is going to give us their 3rd round pick for Turner.

they don't have a 3rd

atomicbloke
01-11-2010, 09:01 PM
We got over Alex Gibbs leaving, we'll get over Turner leaving as well....eventually.

Actually we never did.....

delany
01-11-2010, 09:15 PM
again, just because its a promotion does not mean we HAVE to let him interview for job. only for head coaching opportunities can broncos not stop him from interviewing.

Maybe we can just lock him inside Dove Valley.

Screw what he might want. He is a pawn meant to be moved around for the collective good of the Broncos.

I say bread, water and no interviews for Bobby until he makes Moreno faster and a one cut disciple.

MaloCS
01-11-2010, 09:20 PM
You don't build loyalty by ruling with an iron fist. It's in the Broncos best interests to allow Turner to interview. Then, if you want to keep him you make a counter offer he can't refuse. After all, it's business, not a totalitarian regime. Or is it?

Popps
01-11-2010, 09:20 PM
Thanks for the memories, Bobby. Good luck.

Time marches on...

Ratboy
01-11-2010, 09:26 PM
I hope we keep him.

Cito Pelon
01-11-2010, 09:30 PM
If Bob Turner wants to accept that 'Associate Head Coach' position and the let's say $1 million salary that a title like that commands, go get it.

Taco John
01-11-2010, 09:35 PM
I hear that Washington is going to give us their 3rd round pick for Turner.

It's against league rules to trade draft picks for coaches anymore.

bpc
01-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Congrats Bobby. We'll be appreciating your talent from afar.

DivineLegion
01-11-2010, 09:53 PM
I know that Portis is on his last legs but it will be fun to see him reunited with Mike, Bobby, and the ZBS.

bpc
01-11-2010, 09:59 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens with Portis. They got talent behind him, and there's going to be talent in this draft. We'll see who is annoited the chosen one in DC!

tsiguy96
01-11-2010, 10:02 PM
Congrats Bobby. We'll be appreciating your talent from afar.

you are absolutely ridiculous. first mcd is a dick for not letting him interview, now hes a dick for letting him interview. do you not understand taht every single thing you say is not just unbiased criticism, its pure ridiculous hatred? youve never once said anything positive and absolutely refuse to accept that a lot of good thigns are happening to this team, you are like the fox news of bronco fans. but you know better than mcd, you have a TON of talent in coaching, player evaluations, play calling etc.

Bronco Yoda
01-11-2010, 10:06 PM
We got over Alex Gibbs leaving, we'll get over Turner leaving as well....eventually.

I didn't. :giggle:

FU Shanahan. I hope you FAIL! I said i'd wish him well unless he came back to strip us clean.

Bronco Yoda
01-11-2010, 10:07 PM
Congrats Bobby. We'll be appreciating your talent from afar.

FAIL :oyvey:

TheDave
01-11-2010, 10:12 PM
Well that sucks...

strafen
01-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Another One Bites the Dust!

bpc
01-11-2010, 10:56 PM
FAIL :oyvey:

I know. Just another Shanahan speedbump for you to run over this offseason. Go ahead, take your pot shots at him, call him crappy and whatever. It's just what you guys do. No respect, disingenuous and the nine. Just another day of dealing with spoiled fans.

DivineLegion
01-11-2010, 11:01 PM
Dude don't put other people in the boat with Yodas comment. I'm happy this team is changing but I dont think there is a single person on here besides Yoda who acctually cared to see Bobby Turner go. Bobby Turner is as much a Bronco as John Elway, Rod Smith, and Karl Mecklenberg. I see your frustration though, I dont get celibrating Bronco legends leaving this team. Bobby Turner for the ROF!

24champ
01-11-2010, 11:04 PM
Saw this coming last year.

I believe Turner bolts for Washington and Dennison is gone to Houston.

I think this would be good news, the Broncos need to be completely bought into McDaniels system and he needs the coaches that can help bring along the players better in his system.

tsiguy96
01-11-2010, 11:06 PM
I know. Just another Shanahan speedbump for you to run over this offseason. Go ahead, take your pot shots at him, call him crappy and whatever. It's just what you guys do. No respect, disingenuous and the nine. Just another day of dealing with spoiled fans.

how many people need to tell you that no one here HATES shanahan, we just recognize that it was time for him to leave the organization?

bpc
01-11-2010, 11:18 PM
how many people need to tell you that no one here HATES shanahan, we just recognize that it was time for him to leave the organization?

There's a bunch of you guys that hate Shanahan and you run around like pippy little frauds acting like you don't. I think Yoda's a turd but at least he's man enough to say what he's thinking. The rest of you agenda hopper's are pathetic. Smile in the front, stab in the back.

In the meantime you hype up this wayward roller coaster ride we're on and defend the head coach when he doesn't have a ****ing clue how to run a NFL team in this league. And where's the butt****ing GM? We haven't heard from him since last year when he contradicted McDaniels story about Cutler. Punk got muted cause he sucks and doesn't belong in his position. He's still popping zits on his chin and playing Madden prolly. He's a tool anyways but the fact remains that we're running this team in the most ****ed up ways and you would have to be a complete idiot to fully believe everything that the people in dove valley are blowing out their ass. Every other story is getting mixed up. We can't even get a straight suspension on Brandon Marshall without having conflicting views, players finding out about it on Channel 4 news at 10 because the coach is too much of a coward to talk face to face with some of these players.

extralife
01-11-2010, 11:58 PM
We got over Alex Gibbs leaving.

speak for yourself

Killericon
01-12-2010, 12:06 AM
****ty. Well, I just hope we can find a good replacement.

I tell you guys this much...The Redskins are my NFC team for the next little while.

Popps
01-12-2010, 12:27 AM
I'm not sure how effective Dennison really is, honestly. Turner, I hate to see go... but I also don't know the true impact of a RB coach, as opposed to a guy like Gibbs who oversaw the whole line.

I mean, I'd prefer he stayed... but I'm not worried about it. I trust our guys to identify someone who can do the gig well. Thus far, McDaniels and Co. have done a great job at hiring position coaches and coordinators. Outstanding, actually.

worm
01-12-2010, 12:33 AM
Redskins projected staff. Interesting.

HEAD COACH Mike Shanahan Confirmed
OFFENSIVE COORD Kyle Shanahan Confirmed
OFFENSIVE LINE Alex Gibbs Reported
RUNNING BACKS Bobby Turner, Sherman Smith Reported
WIDE RECEIVER
TIGHT ENDS
OTHER OFFENSE ASSTS Blake Williams Reported
DEFENSIVE COORD Jerry Gray, Mike Zimmer, Jim Haslett Reported
SECONDARY Bobby Slowick Reported
SAFETIES
LINEBACKERS
DEFENSIVE LINE Tim Kumrie, Mike Waufle Reported
SPECIAL TEAMS Bobby April Reported

watermock
01-12-2010, 12:35 AM
I know that Portis is on his last legs but it will be fun to see him reunited with Mike, Bobby, and the ZBS.

Portis most likely will be gone, he had bad concussion and his legs are tired.

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 12:40 AM
In the meantime you hype up this wayward roller coaster ride we're on and defend the head coach when he doesn't have a ****ing clue how to run a NFL team in this league. And where's the butt****ing GM? We haven't heard from him since last year when he contradicted McDaniels story about Cutler. Punk got muted cause he sucks and doesn't belong in his position. He's still popping zits on his chin and playing Madden prolly. He's a tool anyways but the fact remains that we're running this team in the most ****ed up ways and you would have to be a complete idiot to fully believe everything that the people in dove valley are blowing out their ass. Every other story is getting mixed up. We can't even get a straight suspension on Brandon Marshall without having conflicting views, players finding out about it on Channel 4 news at 10 because the coach is too much of a coward to talk face to face with some of these players.

What

the

****?

24champ
01-12-2010, 12:43 AM
DEFENSIVE COORD Jerry Gray, Mike Zimmer, Jim Haslett Reported
SECONDARY Bobby Slowick Reported


Can't be right, FLBronco was saying repeatedly all year that Slowik was the DC for Shanny!:giggle:

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 12:47 AM
Can't be right, FLBronco was saying repeatedly all year that Slowik was the DC for Shanny!:giggle:

We'll see what happens when it's all confirmed. ;)

Regardless, give it a few years. It took Shanny two and a half years to get Slowik into the DC position here in Denver.

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 12:55 AM
On a side note, Jerry Gray would be a GREAT hire for DC. I like him alot.

yavoon
01-12-2010, 01:03 AM
lol shannahan is up to his old job inflation game.

Killericon
01-12-2010, 01:03 AM
On a side note, Jerry Gray would be a GREAT hire for DC. I like him alot.

If they could get Zimmer(I'm sure Snyder will back a Brinks truck on him, and Mike will ignore it), that'd be an unreal staff.

24champ
01-12-2010, 01:05 AM
We'll see what happens when it's all confirmed. ;)

Regardless, give it a few years. It took Shanny two and a half years to get Slowik into the DC position here in Denver.

Slowik is a fine Secondary coach, and everyone knows that. DC not so much given his history, and I am sure Slowik knows that. I am sure they are great friends, nothing wrong with that...but Shanny has the same goal as the Broncos do. Winning a Super Bowl and he isn't going to compromise that by making the same mistakes he did here in Denver.

As far as Turner goes, I have a hunch that Shanny isn't going to let him leave Washington until he says yes.

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 01:11 AM
Slowik is a fine Secondary coach and everyone knows that. Agreed.

DC not so much given his history, and I am sure Slowik knows that. That didn't stop him from pushing his way into the job and then producing epic suckage.

I am sure they are great friends They are, believe me. It's the only way Slowik will EVER get another DC gig in this league.

nothing wrong with that Except that it prevents Shanny from objectively building a staff.

...but Shanny has the same goal as the Broncos do. Winning a Super Bowl and he isn't going to compromise that by making the same mistakes he did here in Denver. See I disagree.

- He saw Slowik suck in Chicago

- He saw Slowik suck in Cleveland

- He saw Slowik suck in Green Bay

- He saw Slowik suck for the 2nd half of 2007

- He saw Slowik suck for all of 2008

Yet he was STILL going to bring him back for 2009. I have a real tough time imagining that Shanahan all the sudden realizes that Slowik is an epic failure as a DC. Also if I'm Dan Synder or Bruce Allen there is a clause in Shanny's contract that says "BOB SLOWIK SHALL NEVER BE PROMOTED PAST DEFENSIVE BACKS COACH" and it's written in red, bolded, circled and high lighted.

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 01:11 AM
If they could get Zimmer(I'm sure Snyder will back a Brinks truck on him, and Mike will ignore it), that'd be an unreal staff.

Honestly I'd probably take Gray as my DC if it was my call.

24champ
01-12-2010, 01:20 AM
See I disagree.

- He saw Slowik suck in Chicago

- He saw Slowik suck in Cleveland

- He saw Slowik suck in Green Bay

- He saw Slowik suck for the 2nd half of 2007

- He saw Slowik suck for all of 2008

I don't think Slowik is up for DC job, if ever. So this is a moot point, clearly Slowik is going to be the Secondary coach and Shanny will explore better options at DC.

You were wrong, I was right...lets move on.:wave:

watermock
01-12-2010, 01:24 AM
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Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 01:28 AM
I don't think Slowik is up for DC job, if ever.

So this is a moot point, clearly Slowik is going to be the Secondary coach and Shanny will explore better options at DC. Alot of us said the same thing when he was hired in 2005. We saw how that turned out.

Ultimately though, it don't matter a whole lot to me. Shanahan is not a Bronco anymore and while I wish him well in Washington I am not going to cheer for them so ultimately whatever success or failures he has is of no consequence to me.

watermock
01-12-2010, 01:34 AM
Redskins projected staff. Interesting.

HEAD COACH Mike Shanahan Confirmed
OFFENSIVE COORD Kyle Shanahan Confirmed
OFFENSIVE LINE Alex Gibbs Reported
RUNNING BACKS Bobby Turner, Sherman Smith Reported
WIDE RECEIVER
TIGHT ENDS
OTHER OFFENSE ASSTS Blake Williams Reported
DEFENSIVE COORD Jerry Gray, Mike Zimmer, Jim Haslett Reported
SECONDARY Bobby Slowick Reported
SAFETIES
LINEBACKERS
DEFENSIVE LINE Tim Kumrie, Mike Waufle Reported
SPECIAL TEAMS Bobby April Reported

On paper, that looks pretty good.

Florida_Bronco
01-12-2010, 01:40 AM
On paper, that looks pretty good.

Indeed it does.

Bronco Yoda
01-12-2010, 02:15 AM
Dude don't put other people in the boat with Yodas comment. I'm happy this team is changing but I dont think there is a single person on here besides Yoda who acctually cared to see Bobby Turner go. Bobby Turner is as much a Bronco as John Elway, Rod Smith, and Karl Mecklenberg. I see your frustration though, I dont get celibrating Bronco legends leaving this team. Bobby Turner for the ROF!

What? I'm pro Turner. Are you confused? I think you are...

Bronco Yoda
01-12-2010, 02:25 AM
I know. Just another Shanahan speedbump for you to run over this offseason. Go ahead, take your pot shots at him, call him crappy and whatever. It's just what you guys do. No respect, disingenuous and the nine. Just another day of dealing with spoiled fans.

I'm a Bronco fan not a coach fan. I don't know what you are.

I never said Shanahan was crappy. So you're a liar if you say this.

I don't believe in supporting other teams. I don't even understand it. It's not in my vocabulary. Neither do I support ex-players that trash us...or ex coaches that raid our roster and staff. Pretty clear cut.

I liked Shanahan. Appreciative of what he did for us. But I'm not going sit by and watch him raid our staff (Bronco coaches I like) and not get pissed about it.

I'm not going to say he's bad coach. But I will now enjoy his failure.

FU shanahan for raiding my team. Again, I hope you fail now. All skins fans can suck it if they don't like it.

GO BRONCOS!

eddie mac
01-12-2010, 02:34 AM
There's a bunch of you guys that hate Shanahan and you run around like pippy little frauds acting like you don't. I think Yoda's a turd but at least he's man enough to say what he's thinking. The rest of you agenda hopper's are pathetic. Smile in the front, stab in the back.

In the meantime you hype up this wayward roller coaster ride we're on and defend the head coach when he doesn't have a ****ing clue how to run a NFL team in this league. And where's the butt****ing GM? We haven't heard from him since last year when he contradicted McDaniels story about Cutler. Punk got muted cause he sucks and doesn't belong in his position. He's still popping zits on his chin and playing Madden prolly. He's a tool anyways but the fact remains that we're running this team in the most ****ed up ways and you would have to be a complete idiot to fully believe everything that the people in dove valley are blowing out their ass. Every other story is getting mixed up. We can't even get a straight suspension on Brandon Marshall without having conflicting views, players finding out about it on Channel 4 news at 10 because the coach is too much of a coward to talk face to face with some of these players.

So you didn't fall on your head afterall. You're like a ****ing yo-yo this weather bpc.

eddie mac
01-12-2010, 02:39 AM
Sorry to see Bobby go but anyone with half a braincell knew this was going to happen once Shanny found work again. It's just a year late, that is all. In all honesty though I think it's best for both parties.

Bronco Yoda
01-12-2010, 02:48 AM
Sorry to see Bobby go but anyone with half a braincell knew this was going to happen once Shanny found work again. It's just a year late, that is all. In all honesty though I think it's best for both parties.

Yes, we all knew it was coming. But I for one was holding my breath it w
ouldn't just the same.

I'm pissed at Shanahan on principle for this. I can't really blame Rick or Bobby for leaving considering everything.

Hopefully now everyone will be on the same page going forward.

fontaine
01-12-2010, 02:53 AM
I'm disapointed to see Bobby Turner go. He's been a true Bronco.

I look forward to seeing his replacement. Good Head Coaches are able to spot and bring in the right type of assistants and hopefully McDaniels can continue doing this after last year's hires.

Good Luck McD!!

Drek
01-12-2010, 04:39 AM
There's a bunch of you guys that hate Shanahan and you run around like pippy little frauds acting like you don't. I think Yoda's a turd but at least he's man enough to say what he's thinking. The rest of you agenda hopper's are pathetic. Smile in the front, stab in the back.

In the meantime you hype up this wayward roller coaster ride we're on and defend the head coach when he doesn't have a ****ing clue how to run a NFL team in this league. And where's the butt****ing GM? We haven't heard from him since last year when he contradicted McDaniels story about Cutler. Punk got muted cause he sucks and doesn't belong in his position. He's still popping zits on his chin and playing Madden prolly. He's a tool anyways but the fact remains that we're running this team in the most ****ed up ways and you would have to be a complete idiot to fully believe everything that the people in dove valley are blowing out their ass. Every other story is getting mixed up. We can't even get a straight suspension on Brandon Marshall without having conflicting views, players finding out about it on Channel 4 news at 10 because the coach is too much of a coward to talk face to face with some of these players.
Wow. Talk about having a persecution complex floating around in a big ol' pool of bitter tears.

You should see someone about that man. That **** is not healthy.

As for Turner, best of luck to him. Nice to see he's getting a promotion with (I'm sure) a massive salary bump. A lot of extra perks come with being an asst. head coach as opposed to a positional coach, especially if Turner wants to pursue the next step up the ladder (HC) at some point.

Good time for both him and Dennison to move on really though, this team is transitioning to a man blocking, power run scheme and that is not the strength of either of those men. One of those rare moves where both sides will likely benefit from the separation.

watermock
01-12-2010, 04:43 AM
You're in denial.

barryr
01-12-2010, 05:28 AM
I wish him well and the Broncos should let him go if that's what he wants to do. Some people want to keep holding on to whatever pieces remain from the Super Bowl years, but life goes on.

Rohirrim
01-12-2010, 06:00 AM
Damn! Now I have to find a new adopt a Bronco. Bobby had a great run here. I have a lot of gratitude to him for what he brought to the team. Like Bob Dylan sang, "I have nothing but affection for all those who've sailed with me." May he have continued success in life.

RaiderH8r
01-12-2010, 06:02 AM
F him if he doesn't want to stay in Denver. We have McKid, he's an offensive genius. Screw Bobby Turner if he wants to crap on Denver.

blah blah blah./end sarcasm.

This was predictable, as was Dennison. Damn shame that you would draft RB with your first big pick as a HC and then sit idly by as one of the best RB coaches in the game walks out the door.

Mr.Meanie
01-12-2010, 07:47 AM
What

the

****?

Just go with it. I'm sure it sounded right in his head.

Ray Finkle
01-12-2010, 07:58 AM
McDaniel's knew this would happen since last year.....you don't think he has already lined up a RB and OL coach already?

ZONA
01-12-2010, 08:29 AM
typically if a coach is offered a promotion, the team will let him out of his contract.....it's an under the table agreement.

I wouldn't let somebody go for just a name upgrade. If they were offering my coach a substatial pay upgrade then of course but if it was just a new title but relatively the same pay, F them wads. They are just trying to steal my talent.

Kaylore
01-13-2010, 07:38 AM
I'm happy for Turner and Dennison if they do go. McDaniels was able to get the raises and promotions which only helps them. I don't see how that makes him a bad coach.

BPC, you're turning into a drama queen. It's like every post about McDaniels or Shanahan brings you to tears. We finished 8-8. Are we really that bad? Even if McDaniels isn't "the answer" it's not like we suck. So far it looks like it's been a lateral move with defense going way up and the offense going down a little. I want to see what McDaniels does in year two. If it's the same thing and we're fuddling around 8-8 again then I guarantee he'll be gone next year and we can move.

I still think firing Shanahan will end up being the best thing for both parties. Shanahan had clearly lost touch with reality. Perhaps a year away with a fresh staff and actual defensive line he doesn't have to build will be a good set up for him. I wish him and whatever coaches that get promoted well.

As for Dennison leaving, I think we need a guy in here who knows how to scout and develop large players in a man blocking scheme. The zone scheme needs to go. So I think in the long run this could be good. I'd like to see McDaniels cede his play-calling duties to a full time offensive coordinator too. I'd like to see more prudence in the draft, too.

McDaniels is a rookie too and I think he'll get better in year two, especially with more of his guys installed. Will it be enough? I don't know but if not he probably won't be here in '11. I will still root for him since he's my team head coach and hope for the best.

TonyR
01-13-2010, 08:08 AM
I will still root for him since he's my team head coach and hope for the best.

It's really shame that this sentiment actually has to be expressed around here. But really not surprising in a place where the forum owner rips me for calling out someone who proclaims he's no longer a fan of the team and then calls me clueless. Hopefully when we start winning next season some of these people will gain some perspective and at least some semblance of sanity.

As for Turner, good luck and congrats to him on the promotion and raise. I'm sure the organization will somehow survive the loss.

Requiem
01-13-2010, 08:16 AM
The BPC we are reading now isn't like the BPC pre-Cutler getting the boot. What happened? Oh. . .

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2010, 08:30 PM
I'd like to see McDaniels cede his play-calling duties to a full time offensive coordinator too. I'd like to see more prudence in the draft, too.

I gotta disagree with you there Kaylore. McD is a damn good play caller and by all accounts he's smart enough to handle all the tasks that come with being a HC as well as the actual play calling.

DBroncos4life
01-13-2010, 08:37 PM
It's really shame that this sentiment actually has to be expressed around here. But really not surprising in a place where the forum owner rips me for calling out someone who proclaims he's no longer a fan of the team and then calls me clueless. Hopefully when we start winning next season some of these people will gain some perspective and at least some semblance of sanity.

As for Turner, good luck and congrats to him on the promotion and raise. I'm sure the organization will somehow survive the loss.

Just like this year? I think people are tired of epic let downs.

24champ
01-13-2010, 08:50 PM
I gotta disagree with you there Kaylore. McD is a damn good play caller and by all accounts he's smart enough to handle all the tasks that come with being a HC as well as the actual play calling.

I actually agree with Kahn on that point, which is why I wanted Weis to step in and take a load off McDaniels.

Also Xanders and the rest of the scouts need to do a better job of scouting, last years draft seemed rushed or lacked a plan with the limited amount of players on their board. Hopefully everyone in the organization learned from their mistakes in year one.

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2010, 09:09 PM
I actually agree with Kahn on that point, which is why I wanted Weis to step in and take a load off McDaniels.

Going by their time in New England I'd say McD is an infinitely better play caller, and Weis is pretty damn good himself.

24champ
01-13-2010, 09:30 PM
Going by their time in New England I'd say McD is an infinitely better play caller, and Weis is pretty damn good himself.

That's great and I wasn't comparing their play calling abilities, my point was that McDaniels isn't an offensive coordinator anymore. He has way more responsibilities now as the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos.

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2010, 09:39 PM
That's great and I wasn't comparing their play calling abilities, my point was that McDaniels isn't an offensive coordinator anymore. He has way more responsibilities now as the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos.

And lots of head coaches call their own plays.

epicSocialism4tw
01-13-2010, 09:43 PM
Bobby Turners' leaving is a sad day for Broncos fans. That dude was a running back vending machine.

24champ
01-13-2010, 09:46 PM
And lots of head coaches call their own plays.

Lots of Head Coaches delegate their responsibilities as well...what's your point?

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2010, 05:43 AM
I used to have to drive up there all the time for work day trips from Richmond. In after nine, skip lunch, and out no later than 1:59 pm. But it is not just the interstates. Ever road is ****ing packed all day.

Meck77
01-14-2010, 06:04 AM
BPCTheNextAtlas

tsiguy96
01-14-2010, 06:10 AM
Lots of Head Coaches delegate their responsibilities as well...what's your point?

that for you to say mcdaniels shouldnt be calling his own plays because other head coaches dont is extremely faulty logic because other head coaches DO call their own plays as well. he was in his first year, would you people relax and at least give him some time to learn?

rmsanger
01-14-2010, 08:16 AM
That sucking sound is the remainders of the denver coaching talent pool being sucked dry.

24champ
01-14-2010, 09:57 AM
that for you to say mcdaniels shouldnt be calling his own plays because other head coaches dont is extremely faulty logic because other head coaches DO call their own plays as well. he was in his first year, would you people relax and at least give him some time to learn?

I think that McDaniels would have final say on the play calls if he did relinquish his duties, so like in certain situations where he feels a play would work, he would call it in.

Some of the playcalling at the end of the year was questionable, and just think it might be best for the team to have McDaniels focus on other areas of the offense, defense, and special teams.