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broncofan7
01-09-2010, 07:35 PM
Hello fellow football gamblers,

GB(-1) @ AZ

GB throttled AZ in the 3rd pre-season game (38-10 Green Bay at the HALF) this year and then destroyed them last week as well (33-7). Domonique Rogers-Cromartie got hurt and is going to be half speed for this game. Plus Boldin is likely out......but Warner will be playing.

I realize that Charles Woodson got hurt last week too and that he may not be at full speed--but I just do not see anyway that AZ stays close to GB tomorrow.

Any betters on here taking Arizona? and if so, why are you?

rbackfactory80
01-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Arizona has not lost back to back games this entire year. They are the only team in football to do so. All I can think of.

HAT
01-09-2010, 08:13 PM
The fact that you just used a pre-season game as part of your 'handicapping' tells me everything I need to know.

3 units on AZ as a blind bf7 fade.

SoDak Bronco
01-09-2010, 08:36 PM
Green Bay +1 over Arizona
In the playoffs, it's notthe best team that wins, but the team playing the best. GB has won 7 of their last 8 (only loss was in last second at the Steelers) and their D has been dominant. They are first in the league in rushing D and 5th in passing D. A. Rogers has been playing well and will eat up the Cards pass d that is 23rd in the NFL. The Cards rush D is just as bad allowing 4.5 YPR (24tth). I don't take much stock into last weeks game becuase the Cards didn't play their starters the entire game, but I see the Pack winning this one.

extralife
01-09-2010, 09:18 PM
I don't bet, but I've been damn tempted to put cash on GB to win the super bowl at 18 to 1

azbroncfan
01-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Your asking to lose money betting with AZ or betting against them. They can look like the best team in the league one week and the worst team in the league one week. Any outcome of this game tomorrow would not surprise me. Blowout for either team to close game.

broncofan7
01-10-2010, 07:33 AM
Green Bay +1 over Arizona
In the playoffs, it's notthe best team that wins, but the team playing the best. GB has won 7 of their last 8 (only loss was in last second at the Steelers) and their D has been dominant. They are first in the league in rushing D and 5th in passing D. A. Rogers has been playing well and will eat up the Cards pass d that is 23rd in the NFL. The Cards rush D is just as bad allowing 4.5 YPR (24tth). I don't take much stock into last weeks game becuase the Cards didn't play their starters the entire game, but I see the Pack winning this one.

the line is now GB (-2.5) @ AZ........Lots of $$$ being put on GB

broncofan7
01-10-2010, 07:36 AM
Arizona has not lost back to back games this entire year. They are the only team in football to do so. All I can think of.

I looked that up--they did beat Minnesota, JAX, CHI, DET and Houston after coming off of a loss.....the Houston game they very easily could have lost if not for a goaline stand---Minny has really been slumping, JAX was not playing well early this season, DET is DET and Chicago's pass defense was HORRID this year...playing right into AZ's offensive strength.

Good take though--made me think a little deeper......

broncofan7
01-10-2010, 07:37 AM
The fact that you just used a pre-season game as part of your 'handicapping' tells me everything I need to know.

3 units on AZ as a blind bf7 fade.

Genius--the 3rd pre-season game is a DRESS REHEARSAL for the regular season and carries A LOT MORE WEIGHT than the other pre-season games. You're welcome.

broncofan7
01-10-2010, 07:38 AM
Your asking to lose money betting with AZ or betting against them. They can look like the best team in the league one week and the worst team in the league one week. Any outcome of this game tomorrow would not surprise me. Blowout for either team to close game.

way to take a stand.

HAT
01-10-2010, 08:21 AM
Genius--the 3rd pre-season game is a DRESS REHEARSAL for the regular season and carries A LOT MORE WEIGHT than the other pre-season games. You're welcome.

LMAO. Damn son. I wish I was your book. You may win today but you've now shown that you are squarer than square.

Crushaholic
01-10-2010, 09:53 AM
Arizona will not beat Green Bay...but I also predicted a Dallas exit in the first round...so, whatever...Ha!:dunk:

NYC Bronco
01-10-2010, 12:21 PM
Line is now 2.5. AZ feels disrespected. They felt that way last year when the backed into the playoffs.........

Tombstone RJ
01-10-2010, 12:24 PM
Green Bay +1 over Arizona
In the playoffs, it's notthe best team that wins, but the team playing the best. GB has won 7 of their last 8 (only loss was in last second at the Steelers) and their D has been dominant. They are first in the league in rushing D and 5th in passing D. A. Rogers has been playing well and will eat up the Cards pass d that is 23rd in the NFL. The Cards rush D is just as bad allowing 4.5 YPR (24tth). I don't take much stock into last weeks game becuase the Cards didn't play their starters the entire game, but I see the Pack winning this one.

Once again, AZ getting absoulely no respect. Reminds me a lot of last year... just saying...

theAPAOps5
01-10-2010, 12:54 PM
Its in Arizona - sort of home field advantage but Arizona has one of the worst home fields because its such a snowbird state and lots of transplants.

Woodson Hurt - All hands need to be on deck for Fitzgerald. Possibly Bolden even though he is questionable and not at all 100%

But I would stay away from Arizona. Green Bay kept all starters in the game to keep them crisp. Arizona started pulling players. Look how teams have done so far after resting players. The Jets beat Cincy after Cincy took a break last week.

Philly rested players and looked slow and flat. New England rested players against Houston and are sucking ass.

They say it really doesn't matter with the rest factor but look at how it affected teams.

Green Bay is the hot team in the NFC and kept the gas on in a game that didn't matter.

I say Green Bay spanks them.

theAPAOps5
01-10-2010, 01:57 PM
And so far I couldn't have been more wrong!

broncofan7
01-10-2010, 02:00 PM
And so far I couldn't have been more wrong!

'Tis the Nfl.......this looks to be a repeat of the ravens -pats game........

gunns
01-10-2010, 02:57 PM
Sure glad I put my money on Arizona. Hoping 2-2 gets me the pot.

Tombstone RJ
01-10-2010, 03:36 PM
good teams win in the post season. kudos to warner, kudos to AZs defense. granted, it ain't over

HAT
01-10-2010, 05:30 PM
Serious offer BF7....I want to be your book. You won't even have to post up offshore, I'll give you credit for the first couple of weeks.

PM me.

ZONA
01-10-2010, 05:33 PM
Wow, what a game. Tons and tons of offense and really, poor defense on both sides. Rackers shanks a short kick for the win, what a plug. Fitting that the Cards defense that got worked almost all game long comes up with the play to win it, specifically #27 who was getting beat like an old drum all game long, makes the huge play.

HAT
01-10-2010, 06:10 PM
BF7.....I have an offer for you.

Let's have a little handicapping challenge. We have 7 games yet to be played. Let's pick a side and a total in each of those games and the loser agrees to the ban hammer until the Monday after the draft?

We can settle on a book to use a closing line from say by Friday...All 8 picks for next weekend get PM'd to a Mod by an agreed upon deadline.

Same thing for the following week's 4 picks....same thing for the 2 SB picks.

Victor
01-10-2010, 06:31 PM
I make it Arizona by 6 in OT. This comes right from the top. Take it too the bank.

azbroncfan
01-10-2010, 06:55 PM
Anyone who thought AZ didn't have a chance in this game hasn't watched them play much. Look they destroyed a hot Minnesota team then blew a bunny and got killed by San Francisco. Warner is as good as any QB in the league and I'll say he is the most accurate QB in the league when he isn't pressured. I took AZ all the way to the bank. I went 4-0 this week including NCAA champ game and got myself back to even on the year. I went with AZ with all the cash coming in on Green Bay that is usually a bad sign for the team getting all the cash on them. It always seems to go the other way.

RhymesayersDU
01-10-2010, 07:08 PM
Yeah I don't care how many minutes the starters play in a preseason game, you do not ever handicap a game based on a pre-season game. That is jack-assery at its finest. (And believe me, I know something about jack-assery!)

Kaylore
01-11-2010, 12:00 PM
That game was so epic. It's nice to see Arizona go from bottom feeder from before I was born to Perennial contender too.

Crushaholic
01-11-2010, 12:14 PM
Anyone who thought AZ didn't have a chance in this game hasn't watched them play much. Look they destroyed a hot Minnesota team then blew a bunny and got killed by San Francisco. Warner is as good as any QB in the league and I'll say he is the most accurate QB in the league when he isn't pressured. I took AZ all the way to the bank. I went 4-0 this week including NCAA champ game and got myself back to even on the year. I went with AZ with all the cash coming in on Green Bay that is usually a bad sign for the team getting all the cash on them. It always seems to go the other way.

I'll be the first to admit my ignorance. I should have known that Warner knows how to win in the postseason. Congrats to them...:thumbsup:

Sassy
01-11-2010, 12:16 PM
I think AZ did that just fine!

sixtimeseight
01-11-2010, 12:21 PM
-but I just do not see anyway that AZ stays close to GB tomorrow.


Wow, broncofan7 was completely wrong? No ****ing way.

Sir_Robin
01-11-2010, 12:59 PM
Wow, broncofan7 was completely wrong? No ****ing way.

Now now. In fairness, AZ was NOT close to GB until the fourth quarter. They were two scores ahead. :rofl:

broncofan7
01-11-2010, 02:30 PM
Wow, broncofan7 was completely wrong? No ****ing way.

And like a cowardly twit who comes to kick a man when the fight has already been conceded--you respond in kind.....

Where was your PREDICTION BEFORE THE GAME genius?

sixtimeseight
01-11-2010, 03:26 PM
It was on the sportsbook, where I won $2k for betting on the Cards to win outright. Thanks for your concern though.

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 03:38 PM
It was on the sportsbook, where I won $2k for betting on the Cards to win outright. Thanks for your concern though.

Interesting do you have a betting ticket?

sixtimeseight
01-11-2010, 04:26 PM
Betting ticket? This isn't 1954, I bet online.

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 04:47 PM
Betting ticket? This isn't 1954, I bet online.

Exactly it is much easier for you to copy and paste your transaction ticket or do a screen picture. Let me guess your next post will be you don't know how to do that.

sixtimeseight
01-11-2010, 04:55 PM
lol, I have nothing to prove to you old man. sorry you're a losing gambler, but go be old and bitter somewhere else.

p.s.


Date placed:
Jan 10, 2010 12:09p
Wager $1800 to win $2050

Date settled:
Jan 10, 2010 8:04p
Amount Paid: $2050
Single #164724895 (Win)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Money Line
(108) Arizona Cardinals +3 (-130)
NFL PLAYOFFS - WILDCARD ROUND
Sun@4:40p


Final Scores
Green Bay Packers 45
Arizona Cardinals 51

Run along now old timer.

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 04:58 PM
lol, I have nothing to prove to you old man. sorry you're a losing gambler, but go be old and bitter somewhere else.

p.s.



Run along now old timer.

Ok fair enough even though the math of AZ at -130 and betting 1800 doesnt equal 2000 bucks.

sixtimeseight
01-11-2010, 05:00 PM
lol. you suck at understanding how gambling works.

hint: the -130 was on the point spread

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 05:05 PM
lol. you suck at understanding how gambling works.

hint: the -130 was on the point spread

No it doesn't dude right there tells me your not much of a better. If AZ was a dog you and you bet the money line you would of been getting more than you bet. What you posted there was Arizona +3 at -130. It's called the juice, You are a freaking liar just like I was thinking. Move along now with your fake betting tickets/wagering history.

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 05:10 PM
lol. you suck at understanding how gambling works.

hint: the -130 was on the point spread

Here is a good example you poser all the teams payouts are -110 except Dallas/minnesota. The juice is adjusted. Now make a fake wager sir. Your a winner. Notice how the money line is +120 for a 2.5 dog so your moneyline should of been close to +125 not -130 for a 3 pt dog. Your a loser sir faking your bets.

01/16/10 109 Cardinals(Arizona)
+245 +7 Over 57
Matchup Trend Sheet
16:35 ET 110 Saints(NewOrleans)
-290 -7 Under 57

01/16/10 111 Ravens(Baltimore)
+220 +6.5 Over 44
Matchup Trend Sheet
20:20 ET 112 Colts(Indianapolis)
-260 -6.5 Under 44

01/17/10 113 Cowboys(Dallas)
+120 +2.5 (-105) Over 46
Matchup Trend Sheet
13:05 ET 114 Vikings(Minnesota)
-140 -2.5 (-115) Under 46

01/17/10 115 Jets(NewYork)
+265 +7.5 Over 42
Matchup Trend Sheet
16:45 ET 116 Chargers(SanDiego)
-325 -7.5 Under 42

That One Guy
01-11-2010, 06:27 PM
I don't know much about betting. I'll admit that. Just two things though:

Did that fake betting ticket say that the guy wagered 1800 to win 2050 or was it to win back his money +250? I'd like to think win 2k plus his 1800 back. It said money paid was only 2050 though so I was confused.

Secondly, I admitted I don't know much but it looks like they just made Sixtimeseight look like a fool. That's gotta hurt.

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 06:42 PM
I don't know much about betting. I'll admit that. Just two things though:

Did that fake betting ticket say that the guy wagered 1800 to win 2050 or was it to win back his money +250? I'd like to think win 2k plus his 1800 back. It said money paid was only 2050 though so I was confused.

Secondly, I admitted I don't know much but it looks like they just made Sixtimeseight look like a fool. That's gotta hurt.

When you see a + or - sign in front of the 100 number it determines the payout or juice as it is called. What it means is if it is a + sign that is what it pays for every 100 you bet and if it is a - sign you have to risk that to win 100. EX +120 means you win 120 bucks for every 100 you bet and if it is -120 then you have to bet 120 bucks to win 100. Most of the time when you bet the spread the payout is -110 and the books will adjust that number instead of the line from time to time to get even money on both sides and take the 10 percent.

HAT
01-11-2010, 07:50 PM
BF7

Are we going to do this or what?

Rules are simple: We both pick a side and a total for every remaining playoff game, including the SB. Our picks can be PM'd to a mod or another neutral party by some agreed upon deadline. Loser submits to a voluntary ban until after the draft.

C'mon son....Let's gamble!

RhymesayersDU
01-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Hold on HAT, he's still figuring out if any of the remaining teams played each other in the pre-season. He has to properly handicap the games and all.

HAT
01-11-2010, 07:59 PM
His ticket says he bet the ML and not AZ +3 (-130).

Regardless, It's still a fake ticket because the math on those numbers would equate to a ML of AZ +113.89 and there's not a book out there that is going to post odds using cents. Also, the ticket would've shown the actual ML price.

If he was risking 1800 @ +113 the payoff would have been 2,034. If it was +114 it would have been 2,052

HAT
01-11-2010, 08:00 PM
Hold on HAT, he's still figuring out if any of the remaining teams played each other in the pre-season. He has to properly handicap the games and all.

:rofl:

azbroncfan
01-11-2010, 08:08 PM
His ticket says he bet the ML and not AZ +3 (-130).

Regardless, It's still a fake ticket because the math on those numbers would equate to a ML of AZ +113.89 and there's not a book out there that is going to post odds using cents. Also, the ticket would've shown the actual ML price.

If he was risking 1800 @ +113 the payoff would have been 2,034. If it was +114 it would have been 2,052

A moneyline ticket wouldn't of had the normal line on it and would of just had the money line odds on it. It is a fake ticket though. I only called him out because he didn't mention anything before the game then claims to have won 2K.

HAT
01-15-2010, 11:21 PM
BF7

Are we going to do this or what?

Rules are simple: We both pick a side and a total for every remaining playoff game, including the SB. Our picks can be PM'd to a mod or another neutral party by some agreed upon deadline. Loser submits to a voluntary ban until after the draft.

C'mon son....Let's gamble!

Bumpitty bump.....

Anyone know if any of this weekend's match-ups played each other in the pre-season?


Come get your ban kid.

broncofan7
01-16-2010, 06:57 AM
Bumpitty bump.....

Anyone know if any of this weekend's match-ups played each other in the pre-season?


Come get your ban kid.

Here you go--Chargers STRAIGHT UP Versus the Jets ---If I lose I am gone for 2 weeks, If I win you are gone for 2 weeks.

Deal?

HAT
01-16-2010, 07:26 AM
Here you go--Chargers STRAIGHT UP Versus the Jets ---If I lose I am gone for 2 weeks, If I win you are gone for 2 weeks.

Deal?

LOL. No.

What a vag you are.

broncofan7
01-16-2010, 09:07 AM
LOL. No.

What a vag you are.

Pussie.

RhymesayersDU
01-16-2010, 09:16 AM
ROFL @ "Chargers straight up" awesome bet. You really went out on a limb there.

broncofan7
01-16-2010, 09:21 AM
ROFL @ "Chargers straight up" awesome bet. You really went out on a limb there.

He proposed that I make a bet with him LOL ;)

HAT
01-16-2010, 10:19 AM
He proposed that I make a bet with him LOL ;)

I'll tell you what bf7.

Chargers are -320 on the moneyline so I'll take the Jets straight up at 3-1 odds.

Chargers win...I volunteer for a 1 month ban.

Jets win...you volunteer for a 3 month ban.

Deal? :contract:

SoDak Bronco
01-16-2010, 10:30 AM
I posted this in another thread, but if you had 18K on the line, which I do (pool started with 800 people at 25$ a piece) and you had to pick just 1 winner from this weekends games (spread doesnt matter) who would you pick?

SoDak Bronco
01-16-2010, 10:31 AM
FYI it is down to 20 people (from the 800), it will go until there is 1 standing or people decide to split it up.

HAT
01-16-2010, 10:32 AM
I posted this in another thread, but if you had 18K on the line, which I do (pool started with 800 people at 25$ a piece) and you had to pick just 1 winner from this weekends games (spread doesnt matter) who would you pick?

Survivor pool that carries into the playoffs?
How many people are left?

SoDak Bronco
01-16-2010, 10:34 AM
Yeah it carried into the playoffs...This is a little different then normal survivor pools, you can pick the same team as many times as you want. started with 800 down to 44 to start the playoffs, last week 24 got knocked out, its down to 20 left.

HAT
01-16-2010, 10:38 AM
FYI it is down to 20 people (from the 800), it will go until there is 1 standing or people decide to split it up.

In that case...I would assume that most people will be on the Chargers this week.

You have to figure that this will get chopped at least 10 ways after the Super Bowl.

All depends on your risk tolerance. If your main goal is to just advance, Chargers are probably the best bet.

I'd go against the grain though....Take your best pick of the other 3 games and hope the Chargers tank and eliminate a good chunk of those remaining 20.

HAT
01-16-2010, 10:39 AM
I would take Minny FYI.

HAT
01-16-2010, 07:22 PM
i'll tell you what bf7.

Chargers are -320 on the moneyline so i'll take the jets straight up at 3-1 odds.

Chargers win...i volunteer for a 1 month ban.

Jets win...you volunteer for a 3 month ban.

Deal? :contract:

bump

broncofan7
01-17-2010, 06:44 AM
i'll tell you what bf7.

Chargers are -320 on the moneyline so i'll take the jets straight up at 3-1 odds.

Chargers win...i volunteer for a 1 month ban.

Jets win...you volunteer for a 3 month ban.

Deal? :contract:

deal.

broncofan7
01-17-2010, 08:11 AM
Just think, you'll be back just in time to gather your thoughts on who we should go after in FA...you'll have 30 days of free time to gather your information

Requiem
01-17-2010, 08:29 AM
Safe to say 95% of the people here are Jets fans today. Hahaha.

HAT
01-17-2010, 08:35 AM
Sweet.

SoDak Bronco
01-17-2010, 09:34 AM
Go CHARGERS!!! haha i took them for my pool today...i wish I would've taken the Colts...geez..sorry but I hope they pull it out and lose next week :)

broncofan7
01-17-2010, 04:26 PM
Bye bye Mane for 3 months....you all will miss me.

RhymesayersDU
01-17-2010, 05:40 PM
We'll see if this sticks. Kudos if he really follows through on it.

Rocket 7
01-17-2010, 05:45 PM
.....and that is why HAT is my hero

theAPAOps5
01-17-2010, 06:50 PM
Just think, you'll be back just in time to gather your thoughts on who we should go after in FA...you'll have 30 days of free time to gather your information

Another douche bites the dust.

Hopefully in these 3 months you just end up disappearing, that would be great.

azbroncfan
01-18-2010, 05:28 AM
lol. you suck at understanding how gambling works.

hint: the -130 was on the point spread

Go figure you wouldn't show up after you lied and made a fake betting ticket.

sixtimeseight
01-18-2010, 09:14 AM
Huh? Sorry, I don't spend every waking hour on this board like you looking to get into dick waving contests. I actually have this thing called a "life" to attend to.

Go die of a heart attack you old piece of ****.

Tombstone RJ
01-18-2010, 09:25 AM
Huh? Sorry, I don't spend every waking hour on this board like you looking to get into dick waving contests. I actually have this thing called a "life" to attend to.

Go die of a heart attack you old piece of ****.

Wow, who peed in your Cheerios this morning? Did mommy not wipe your pants?

vancejohnson82
01-18-2010, 10:27 AM
Huh? Sorry, I don't spend every waking hour on this board like you looking to get into dick waving contests. I actually have this thing called a "life" to attend to.

Go die of a heart attack you old piece of ****.

enjoy your ban

the greatest thing to come out of this thread is that BF7 will be gone for 3 months...

azbroncfan
01-18-2010, 04:05 PM
Huh? Sorry, I don't spend every waking hour on this board like you looking to get into dick waving contests. I actually have this thing called a "life" to attend to.

Go die of a heart attack you old piece of ****.

Yep a heart attack is it. Go keep making fake betting tickets and claiming to win money and that the rest of us know nothing about betting even though we spotted your fake ticket instantly. You were posting left and right until I posted that that was a fake ticket.

gunns
01-19-2010, 06:49 PM
So did sixtimeseight get banned? He's a big mouthed wannabe with little to back it up. Not having to read his worthless posts that only attempt to put another poster down would be great. Maybe he could grow up during his time off.

azbroncfan
01-19-2010, 06:50 PM
So did sixtimeseight get banned? He's a big mouthed wannabe with little to back it up. Not having to read his worthless posts that only attempt to put another poster down would be great. Maybe he could grow up during his time off.

Or work on math so his fake wager's can add up for the BS he spits out.

broncocalijohn
01-19-2010, 10:29 PM
I don't know much about betting. I'll admit that. Just two things though:

Did that fake betting ticket say that the guy wagered 1800 to win 2050 or was it to win back his money +250? I'd like to think win 2k plus his 1800 back. It said money paid was only 2050 though so I was confused.

Secondly, I admitted I don't know much but it looks like they just made Sixtimeseight look like a fool. That's gotta hurt.

Isnt the first time and I have had him on iggy for at least a year. Glad AZ quoted him. What a freaking fool.

Lev Vyvanse
01-24-2010, 03:32 PM
Bye bye Mane for 3 months....you all will miss me.

hmmm.

azbroncfan
01-25-2010, 09:41 AM
Bye bye Mane for 3 months....you all will miss me.

Real good dude here. Guys that can't honor bets sure are pieces of work. That is what is wrong with the world these days is that no one honors their word anymore and it is accepted now to break your word and use it as a learning experience. Not that we expected any less from B7.

Meck77
01-25-2010, 02:20 PM
Real good dude here. Guys that can't honor bets sure are pieces of work. That is what is wrong with the world these days is that no one honors their word anymore and it is accepted now to break your word and use it as a learning experience. Not that we expected any less from B7.

He welched on a $25 bet to me as well. It's bad enough people like B7 exist. It's even worse that guys like him spread their seed in this world. That is the real problem.