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PaintballCLE
01-06-2010, 07:30 PM
http://www.extremeskins.com/

clear up some OM bandwith for the real broncos fans!

:wave:

OBF1
01-06-2010, 07:38 PM
This outta go over well

extralife
01-06-2010, 07:39 PM
real fans are mindless automatons with pointless Us Vs. Them fanboy garbage cluttering up what little amounts of their brain are capable of rational thought or critical analysis

jhat01
01-06-2010, 07:41 PM
real fans are mindless automatons with pointless Us Vs. Them fanboy garbage cluttering up what little amounts of their brain are capable of rational thought or critical analysis

too many words don't understand:rofl:

Popps
01-06-2010, 07:43 PM
real fans are mindless automatons with pointless Us Vs. Them fanboy garbage cluttering up what little amounts of their brain are capable of rational thought or critical analysis

... and punctuation problems.

DBroncos4life
01-06-2010, 07:45 PM
Speaking of freeing up bandwith.......

OBF1
01-06-2010, 07:46 PM
real fans are mindless automatons with pointless Us Vs. Them fanboy garbage cluttering up what little amounts of their brain are capable of rational thought or critical analysis

This is classic Mock LOL

Archer81
01-06-2010, 07:53 PM
http://tinyurl.com/pf93nj

Mmm...flapjacks...

:Broncos:

Ratboy
01-06-2010, 07:57 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ixRLU6yZL._SL500_AA280_.jpg


Great album, I cannot praise it enough.

Popcorn Sutton
01-06-2010, 08:00 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ixRLU6yZL._SL500_AA280_.jpg


Great album, I cannot praise it enough.

Ha, it just dawned on me what your Avatar was.... I don't see that album cover much because I just listen to it on my iPod. Love me some Gasoline but I think the cover you posted is a better overall album.

Oh, sorry. Did I digress?

watermock
01-06-2010, 08:22 PM
Gasoline? cool name

watermock
01-06-2010, 08:38 PM
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Is this them? Sounds like a cheap copy of nirvana to me.

lostknight
01-06-2010, 08:51 PM
http://www.extremeskins.com/

clear up some OM bandwith for the real broncos fans!

:wave:

The whole "if you don't agree with me, then leave" thing is a bit Jr. High don't you think?

Ratboy
01-06-2010, 08:59 PM
Ha, it just dawned on me what your Avatar was.... I don't see that album cover much because I just listen to it on my iPod. Love me some Gasoline but I think the cover you posted is a better overall album.

Oh, sorry. Did I digress?

:thumbs: Devil and God is a much better album, but I love them all.

broncosteven
01-06-2010, 08:59 PM
This thread is not complete with out a post from TSIGUY

Parlett316
01-06-2010, 09:03 PM
Hey I was Extremeskins and somehow got sucked into this thread

sup

bpc
01-06-2010, 09:07 PM
Fan police out inciting riots again.

Give it a rest.

Florida_Bronco
01-06-2010, 09:18 PM
Fan police out inciting riots again.

Give it a rest.

You're right. Everyone should be free to cheer on a former coach as he allegedly sticks it to our team without any fear of repercussion at all.

::)

worm
01-06-2010, 09:22 PM
You're right. Everyone should be free to cheer on a former coach as he allegedly sticks it to our team without any fear of repercussion at all.

::)


How exactly is he sticking it to our team?

bpc
01-06-2010, 09:28 PM
You're right. Everyone should be free to cheer on a former coach as he allegedly sticks it to our team without any fear of repercussion at all.

::)

That's right. I'm a paying fan. I've put a lot of money into Bowlen's pocket so i'll call him and his underachieving offensive guru crappy when I want to.

How much Shanahan hate will there be when he's outperforming McDaniels in Denver? Will we claim that he left the cupboards empty in Denver, and Shanahan was just lucky that he inherited Jason Campbell?

I think it's going to be funny to watch people's jealousy get the best of them when they're trying to run down Shanahan in Washington like they do Jay Cutler now. Right now a majority of the Shanahan haters are putting on a smiling face for the crowd but deep down inside they just want to say "**** you, Mike" and are hoping to see him fail. You people know who you are.

It's going to be comical to watch, actually.

DBroncos4life
01-06-2010, 09:30 PM
You're right. Everyone should be free to cheer on a former coach as he allegedly sticks it to our team without any fear of repercussion at all.

::)

So should we just toss out all of the positive things Mike Shanahan has done for the Denver Broncos and it's fans? It's not like he wasn't the greatest coach we ever had or anything like that. I guess us fans that love what Mike Shanahan did for the Broncos and respect all that he did for us good and bad are really deep down just Redskins fans at heart.

bpc
01-06-2010, 09:30 PM
How exactly is he sticking it to our team?

He's mad that I was laughing at the fact that Bowlen still has to pay Mike $3.5 million dollars for each of the next two seasons, after paying him $7 million this last year.

I thought it was fair, and some are upset that Mike has his dick in Bowlen's butt still.

jhat01
01-06-2010, 09:32 PM
There are people here that hate Shanny? There is nobody that can say that he didn't do what he did for the Broncos. I'm a full on McDaniels supporter, but Shanny was a kick ass coach. I don't think people will wish the same on him as they do Cutler...No effing way

plus...I think most will be less interested in Cutler's performance now that the draft pick is done

Inkana7
01-06-2010, 09:39 PM
That's right. I'm a paying fan. I've put a lot of money into Bowlen's pocket so i'll call him and his underachieving offensive guru crappy when I want to.

How much Shanahan hate will there be when he's outperforming McDaniels in Denver? Will we claim that he left the cupboards empty in Denver, and Shanahan was just lucky that he inherited Jason Campbell?

I think it's going to be funny to watch people's jealousy get the best of them when they're trying to run down Shanahan in Washington like they do Jay Cutler now. Right now a majority of the Shanahan haters are putting on a smiling face for the crowd but deep down inside they just want to say "**** you, Mike" and are hoping to see him fail. You people know who you are.

It's going to be comical to watch, actually.

You're damn right I do. He ****ed over the franchise that I love and cheer for and pin my enjoyment all weekend on. And now I'm forced to hear people defend what he did and what he was "building". **** that. Thanks Mike, I appreciate what you did, but you've lost your touch and you refused to admit it. And because of it I've endured 3 years of watching teams run for 300 yards on my favorite team.

So yeah. I do hope he fails. And I know he will.

bpc
01-06-2010, 09:44 PM
You're damn right I do. He ****ed over the franchise that I love and cheer for and pin my enjoyment all weekend on. And now I'm forced to hear people defend what he did and what he was "building". **** that. Thanks Mike, I appreciate what you did, but you've lost your touch and you refused to admit it. And because of it I've endured 3 years of watching teams run for 300 yards on my favorite team.

So yeah. I do hope he fails. And I know he will.

Well hey, at least you have the testicular fortitude to come out and say it. Your words are complete bull****, but i'll give you slight credit for not hiding your angst like some of the other cowards on this board.

PaintballCLE
01-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Well hey, at least you have the testicular fortitude to come out and say it. Your words are complete bull****, but i'll give you slight credit for not hiding your angst like some of the other cowards on this board.

i just wish people would face the facts......he was a great coach with elway, td, a hof line, etc.......... after that he was average at best.........and a terrible GM........... thats why i think washington justed ****ed up by giving him final say on all player and coaching decisions....

bpc
01-06-2010, 09:54 PM
i just wish people would face the facts......he was a great coach with elway, td, a hof line, etc.......... after that he was average at best.........and a terrible GM........... thats why i think washington justed ****ed up by giving him final say on all player and coaching decisions....

No, you're mad that he couldn't outduel Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger for the super bowl and in the playoffs. Correct? Mike sure looked like a piece of **** losing to them. Unfortunately for the Broncos, franchise QB's don't grow on trees and if you're going to beat one of those teams, you better have one. Hard to do that when you're picking 18-30 every year.

Tombstone RJ
01-06-2010, 09:55 PM
That's right. I'm a paying fan. I've put a lot of money into Bowlen's pocket so i'll call him and his underachieving offensive guru crappy when I want to.

How much Shanahan hate will there be when he's outperforming McDaniels in Denver? Will we claim that he left the cupboards empty in Denver, and Shanahan was just lucky that he inherited Jason Campbell?

I think it's going to be funny to watch people's jealousy get the best of them when they're trying to run down Shanahan in Washington like they do Jay Cutler now. Right now a majority of the Shanahan haters are putting on a smiling face for the crowd but deep down inside they just want to say "**** you, Mike" and are hoping to see him fail. You people know who you are.

It's going to be comical to watch, actually.

When will your douchebaggery end?

PaintballCLE
01-06-2010, 09:56 PM
No, you're mad that he couldn't outduel Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger for the super bowl and in the playoffs. Correct? Mike sure looked like a piece of **** losing to them. Unfortunately for the Broncos, franchise QB's don't grow on trees and if you're going to beat one of those teams, you better have one. Hard to do that when you're picking 18-30 every year.

we had ONE playoff win in 10 years.........he was the only coach in the league that got away with that for so long.

Tombstone RJ
01-06-2010, 09:56 PM
No, you're mad that he couldn't outduel Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger for the super bowl and in the playoffs. Correct? Mike sure looked like a piece of **** losing to them. Unfortunately for the Broncos, franchise QB's don't grow on trees and if you're going to beat one of those teams, you better have one. Hard to do that when you're picking 18-30 every year.

oh really?

GreatBronco16
01-06-2010, 09:58 PM
franchise QB's don't grow on trees and if you're going to beat one of those teams, you better have one. Hard to do that when you're picking 18-30 every year.

Did we not have one in Cutler, yet he couldn't beat them? Or is there another kind of excuse?

bpc
01-06-2010, 10:10 PM
Did we not have one in Cutler, yet he couldn't beat them? Or is there another kind of excuse?

You all celebrated running Cutler off after just his 2nd full season starting. When did you actually give him a chance to do much of anything?

Forgot the mentality of some of you is to do something in two years or get the **** out.

I would hate to see how you all would treated Elway during his first few years in the league, now.

gunns
01-06-2010, 10:13 PM
Well hey, at least you have the testicular fortitude to come out and say it. Your words are complete bull****, but i'll give you slight credit for not hiding your angst like some of the other cowards on this board.

I'm a little more appreciative of what Shanahan did for the Broncos than Ikana but I don't believe a lot of his words are BS. The last few years Shanahan didn't have a clue that a defense was needed for a winning team. Look at the Browncos and the parade of defensive coordinators, ending with the worst I've ever seen and he continued to want. The talk of rebuilding and what we might have had this year had he been allowed to stay cracked me up. We kept hearing that year after year. It reminded me of people defending Griese for two years. If he was still such a kickass coach he should have picked up the proper pieces each year to stay competitive. The Broncos weren't.

gunns
01-06-2010, 10:18 PM
You all celebrated running Cutler off after just his 2nd full season starting. When did you actually give him a chance to do much of anything?

Forgot the mentality of some of you is to do something in two years or get the **** out.

I would hate to see how you all would treated Elway during his first few years in the league, now.

I didn't have a problem with Cutler leaving because I thought he was an ass. And that was before the whole fiasco that happened after McD was hired. He continually threw his teammates under the bus instead of addressing what he did wrong and how his play contributed to losses. He didn't give me the sense of being a team player, a very narcissistic person. He was not destined to be a leader or have the respect of his teammates. Elway was.

Taco John
01-06-2010, 10:20 PM
i just wish people would face the facts......he was a great coach with elway, td, a hof line, etc.......... after that he was average at best.........and a terrible GM........... thats why i think washington justed ****ed up by giving him final say on all player and coaching decisions....

He's the second winningest coach in the league. It was was our guy vs. Billicheck. And Bowlen sold us out. Any success McDaniels has is going to bring glory to Bill. Oh sure, we'll get our due - but the East Coast media will turn it into a Billicheck love fest and that part will make me sick.

THAT'S the thing that sticks in my craw, and probably always will.

bpc
01-06-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm a little more appreciative of what Shanahan did for the Broncos than Ikana but I don't believe a lot of his words are BS. The last few years Shanahan didn't have a clue that a defense was needed for a winning team. Look at the Browncos and the parade of defensive coordinators, ending with the worst I've ever seen and he continued to want. The talk of rebuilding and what we might have had this year had he been allowed to stay cracked me up. We kept hearing that year after year. It reminded me of people defending Griese for two years. If he was still such a kickass coach he should have picked up the proper pieces each year to stay competitive. The Broncos weren't.

What can you really say about the Browncos? Can you say it was a failure? Their first year here, they were part of a defense that guided us to a division championship, 13-3 record and the AFC Championship game.

I think when you are/were in Shanahan's shoes, and your team never has losing seasons, you have to take risks and try to make things happen. For instance the Clinton Portis trade to get a CB of Bailey's calibur. The Browncos are another situation.

Denver just got really old, fast after 2005 plus they also had to deal with the severe back injury to Trevor Pryce, career ending injury to Al Wilson, and the untimely death of Darrent Williams.

While it is fair to get Shanahan his criticism, his defensive inability wasn't without it's share of bad luck either.

gunns
01-06-2010, 10:24 PM
No, you're mad that he couldn't outduel Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger for the super bowl and in the playoffs. Correct? Mike sure looked like a piece of **** losing to them. Unfortunately for the Broncos, franchise QB's don't grow on trees and if you're going to beat one of those teams, you better have one. Hard to do that when you're picking 18-30 every year.

Yes I am mad at him for not beating them. A kickass coach would have figured it out. No franchise QB's don't grow on trees. In that case you have to build up the rest of the team, defense included. That did not happen.

bpc
01-06-2010, 10:26 PM
I didn't have a problem with Cutler leaving because I thought he was an ass. And that was before the whole fiasco that happened after McD was hired. He continually threw his teammates under the bus instead of addressing what he did wrong and how his play contributed to losses. He didn't give me the sense of being a team player, a very narcissistic person. He was not destined to be a leader or have the respect of his teammates. Elway was.

I think Cutler was immature. Still do to a point. Then again, how old is he? 25? 26 now? How immature were we all at that age? If you followed Elway's career, you can't tell me he didn't have his own immature moments. He struggled with the spotlight for a long time before he finally grew up. Lest us all not forget his draft incident. Many of us trashed Eli Manning for doing the same thing John did. And there were others.

I thought Jay was very team oriented. He got his ass beat in 07' and didn't point fingers at anybody else, the OLine. He was getting murdered on a game by game basis.

It's neither here or there. My contention is you can't judge a QB completing just his 2nd full season as a starter at QB, especially when he was awarded an invite to the pro bowl. If he had any semblence of a defense, he would have had a + .500 winning percentage and at least a playoff berth.

Water under the bridge now though.

bpc
01-06-2010, 10:33 PM
Yes I am mad at him for not beating them. A kickass coach would have figured it out. No franchise QB's don't grow on trees. In that case you have to build up the rest of the team, defense included. That did not happen.

Guess what, we're the Cleveland Browns to the Colts version of the Denver Broncos.

Peyton Manning owned us. Can you chalk it up to anything more than having to play the greatest QB of all time, multiple times in the playoffs? It sucks but that's where Peyton is going to go down in the history of the NFL.

I think eventually we'll look back and say "damn, we had some rough roads to the super bowl."

Baltimore was invicible in 2000. They beat us in a close game on a couple fluke plays. Who knows what we do if we made it past them.

Both Colts playoff losses were heart breaking. Patriots ended up winning those super bowls and are the team of the decade. Had they not had their incredible run, Manning probably has 3 super bowls right now.

2005 was just a run of destiny for Steelers. We had home field advantage and a great record and they just flat beat us on both sides of the ball. I think if we played that game over 10 times, they would beat us every time. It wasn't from a lack of trying on Shanahan's part though. We brought a knife to a gunfight. There's no way that Jake Plummer could go blow for blow with Big Ben or Peyton Manning for that matter either.

Some people will call me crazy but I thought Mike Shanahan did some of his best coaching during the last 10 years in Denver. The fact hat he resurrected Plummer's career from being an ultimate loser to a playoff QB tells me volumes about Mike's ability. I don't think anybody else in the league could have gotten that out of him.

Plummer hates Mike now because he couldn't handle a little QB competition but he should appreciate all the high's that Shanahan allowed him to have in his NFL career.

Florida_Bronco
01-06-2010, 10:42 PM
That's right. I'm a paying fan. I've put a lot of money into Bowlen's pocket so i'll call him and his underachieving offensive guru crappy when I want to.

Since when did calling out owner/coach have anything to do with effectively actively rooting against our team?

Unless of course it's not really about the team.

So should we just toss out all of the positive things Mike Shanahan has done for the Denver Broncos and it's fans? It's not like he wasn't the greatest coach we ever had or anything like that. I guess us fans that love what Mike Shanahan did for the Broncos and respect all that he did for us good and bad are really deep down just Redskins fans at heart.

No, there is nothing wrong with that, but if you actively cheer when you feel our former coach is sticking it to our owner that is (at the least) a pretty justifiable reason to question where someone's true allegiance lies.

bpc
01-06-2010, 10:49 PM
Since when did calling out owner/coach have anything to do with effectively actively rooting against our team?

Unless of course it's not really about the team.



No, there is nothing wrong with that, but if you actively cheer when you feel our former coach is sticking it to our owner that is (at the least) a pretty justifiable reason to question where someone's true allegiance lies.

I don't root against my team. I merely comment on how crappy the offense looked after the games. I also commented on how crappy going 2-8 is down the stretch and becoming 1 of only 3 teams post merger to go 6-0 and blow the playoffs.

Sorry I can't kiss ownership's ass and write off the massive failure with excuses like you can. Aren't you lucky though!

~Crash~
01-06-2010, 10:55 PM
http://www.extremeskins.com/

clear up some OM bandwith for the real broncos fans!

:wave:

Should Taco leave the keys going out the door ...buzzard bateHilarious!

GreatBronco16
01-06-2010, 10:56 PM
I don't root against my team. I merely comment on how crappy the offense looked after the games. I also commented on how crappy going 2-8 is down the stretch and becoming 1 of only 3 teams post merger to go 6-0 and blow the playoffs.

Sorry I can't kiss ownership's ass and write off the massive failure with excuses like you can. Aren't you lucky though!

It's not that we are just kissing the owners ass and writing things off. Some of us got pissed off, but choose to let that go and now focus on the future and hope that things get fixed. We aren't going to sit here day in and day out talking about how great Shanny was, at the same time bashing our current coach just because of his first season.

I'm willing to give this thing time. The bar has been set, and if their isn't improvement over the next 3-4 years, then yeah, it's time to move in another direction and perhaps start over again.

Florida_Bronco
01-06-2010, 11:06 PM
I don't root against my team. I merely comment on how crappy the offense looked after the games. I also commented on how crappy going 2-8 is down the stretch and becoming 1 of only 3 teams post merger to go 6-0 and blow the playoffs.

Sorry I can't kiss ownership's ass and write off the massive failure with excuses like you can. Aren't you lucky though!

Don't try to deflect and try to make your efforts look as noble as objective criticism of our (and I use "our" very loosely now) owner and head coach. You took obvious glee in the fact that you felt Shanahan (and I quote near verbatim) was sticking it to Bowlen.

That's rooting against your team. Bottom line.


Well, unless "your team" isn't the Broncos anymore.

bpc
01-07-2010, 12:34 AM
It's not that we are just kissing the owners ass and writing things off. Some of us got pissed off, but choose to let that go and now focus on the future and hope that things get fixed. We aren't going to sit here day in and day out talking about how great Shanny was, at the same time bashing our current coach just because of his first season.

I'm willing to give this thing time. The bar has been set, and if their isn't improvement over the next 3-4 years, then yeah, it's time to move in another direction and perhaps start over again.

I can't call the offense last year anything more than it was... which was full of suck. I don't see where the problem is there.

As for McDaniels, I've long been on record saying he needs to be given three years... unless he continues to royally **** up relationships with the players we need to have in Denver to win.

So far he's driven off Cutler. Marshall is the most obvious next exit. I'm willing to give those two moves a pass.

McD better start pulling QB's from his ass because Orton isn't going to cut it when it comes to getting into the playoffs and winning anything significant. The guy looked like a deer in the headlights over the last 8 games. The KC and Oakland games were particularly befuddling.

McD gets three years. So far, he's used one up and it didn't do much to sooth my conerns of giving up a top notch young QB for what we got in return... a ducktaped defensive unit which got old and fell apart at the end of the season.

bpc
01-07-2010, 12:38 AM
Don't try to deflect and try to make your efforts look as noble as objective criticism of our (and I use "our" very loosely now) owner and head coach. You took obvious glee in the fact that you felt Shanahan (and I quote near verbatim) was sticking it to Bowlen.

That's rooting against your team. Bottom line.


Well, unless "your team" isn't the Broncos anymore.

Pat Bowlen doesn't equal the Broncos, just as Redskin fans wouldn't tell you Daniel Snyder equals their team... Al Davis doesn't equal the Raiders, etc. They merely own the team we enjoy watching.

**** Pat Bowlen. For delivering two championships to Denver and the Broncos fans along with legitimizing John Elway's career, he should be paying Shanahan a pension for the rest of his life. Damn right i'm happy that Mike's getting paid 25 million over 5 years from Snyder and still managing to get some scraps off Bowlen's back as well. It's the least he could do for his "best" friend.

Blueflame
01-07-2010, 12:57 AM
we had ONE playoff win in 10 years.........he was the only coach in the league that got away with that for so long.

... and with one season in the record books, McDaniels' team didn't even make the playoffs despite the hot 6-0 start. Give me the proven Shanahan over this "in-over-his-head", arrogant rookie anyday.

Florida_Bronco
01-07-2010, 01:55 AM
Pat Bowlen doesn't equal the Broncos, just as Redskin fans wouldn't tell you Daniel Snyder equals their team... Al Davis doesn't equal the Raiders, etc. They merely own the team we enjoy watching. I disagree about that, especially when we're talking about the former coach still getting money that the owner could be putting toward this team.

Is it legal? Yes. Does Shanny deserve it? Yes, without question. Does either change the fact that you were celebrating our former coach sticking it to our owner and by proxy the team and fanbase? No, it doesn't.

**** Pat Bowlen. For delivering two championships to Denver and the Broncos fans along with legitimizing John Elway's career, he should be paying Shanahan a pension for the rest of his life. Damn right i'm happy that Mike's getting paid 25 million over 5 years from Snyder and still managing to get some scraps off Bowlen's back as well. It's the least he could do for his "best" friend. Funny. Why doesn't Bowlen get credit for hiring Shanahan, even after he was insubordinate to Dan Reeves? How about for sticking with Shanahan much longer than most owners would have?

Florida_Bronco
01-07-2010, 01:56 AM
... and with one season in the record books, McDaniels' team didn't even make the playoffs despite the hot 6-0 start. Give me the proven Shanahan over this "in-over-his-head", arrogant rookie anyday.

I find this to be a little funny seeing as how closely McDaniels' first year here so closely resembles Shanahan's first year.

Ratboy
01-07-2010, 03:44 AM
Is this them? Sounds like a cheap copy of nirvana to me.

**** no, Mock!

That band blows cock.

This is Brand New..

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Blueflame
01-07-2010, 04:03 AM
I find this to be a little funny seeing as how closely McDaniels' first year here so closely resembles Shanahan's first year.

Shanahan wasn't a rookie HC when he came (back) to Denver.... and he didn't choose to create two separate media circuses within 9 months' time over "issues" with the "talent"... (my bad... "the player").

UberBroncoMan
01-07-2010, 04:40 AM
we had ONE playoff win in 10 years.........he was the only coach in the league that got away with that for so long.

There's this guy over in Tennessee named Jeff Fisher. He's been head coaching his current franchise LONGER (since 1994-present) than even Shanahan (1995-2008).

Mr. Fisher has not won a single Super Bowl.

So he had/has Shanahan beat when it comes to "getting away" with staying employed at the same spot.

watermock
01-07-2010, 04:47 AM
No, there is nothing wrong with that, but if you actively cheer when you feel our former coach is sticking it to our owner that is (at the least) a pretty justifiable reason to question where someone's true allegiance lies.

IU dunno, it seems Bowlen kneejerked to me. I don't think we knew w wer still on the hook for 7 mill, better Shanny than Lelie, Carter or IHOP.

And it's not like he went to a rival, we wont play that division again for 4 years.Joshie will probably e gone by then anyway.

rastaman
01-07-2010, 04:56 AM
... and punctuation problems.

Popps you're a mindless "Playa" hating FO Homer no one expects you to understand; unless Bowlen and McD explains it to you.:thumbsup:

watermock
01-07-2010, 05:02 AM
BTW, who's eating crow now?

Yeah, we really left the cupboard bare on defense, but we could of drafted 2 RB's and still gotten Cushing, and 10 other D's. Don't go there.

The problem ws Sowdick, why Shanny was his but buddy I dunno. All I know is the dfnse got NFL quality and produced some turnovrs.

Christ, I know Jay struggled this year but his mentality is score eery time from his experience here. WE SUCKED on D! and has a kiosk booth RB.

UberBroncoMan
01-07-2010, 05:19 AM
BTW, who's eating crow now?

Yeah, we really left the cupboard bare on defense, but we could of drafted 2 RB's and still gotten Cushing, and 10 other D's. Don't go there.

The problem ws Sowdick, why Shanny was his but buddy I dunno. All I know is the dfnse got NFL quality and produced some turnovrs.

Christ, I know Jay struggled this year but his mentality is score eery time from his experience here. WE SUCKED on D! and has a kiosk booth RB.

They were at Florida together. That's why they're friends.

Florida (defensive assistant, 1979-82) = Slowik

Florida (offensive coordinator, 1980-1983) = Shanahan

TailgateNut
01-07-2010, 07:55 AM
There are people here that hate Shanny? There is nobody that can say that he didn't do what he did for the Broncos. I'm a full on McDaniels supporter, but Shanny was a kick ass coach. I don't think people will wish the same on him as they do Cutler...No effing way

plus...I think most will be less interested in Cutler's performance now that the draft pick is done

I have no problem with Shanahan. He made being a bronco fan fun for quite a few years and didn't cry his way out of Denver like the Little Bitch did.

I wish Shanahan well, just not as well as the Broncos.:~ohyah!:

BroncoBuff
01-07-2010, 07:59 AM
I don't get the title of this thread ... shouldn't we all be "Shanny lovers"?

55CrushEm
01-07-2010, 08:02 AM
That's right. I'm a paying fan. I've put a lot of money into Bowlen's pocket so i'll call him and his underachieving offensive guru crappy when I want to.

Again, why didn't you bitch about Shanny during his 10 years of underachieving? Just another hypocrite with a double-standard.....

HEAV
01-07-2010, 08:03 AM
Rumor has TJ is in negotiations to purchase extremskins...

TailgateNut
01-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Rumor has TJ is in negotiations to purchase extremskins...


I want a refund if he does that.:rofl: It'll be bad enough having discussions with my father in law (deadskin fan).;D

colonelbeef
01-07-2010, 08:29 AM
real fans are mindless automatons with pointless Us Vs. Them fanboy garbage cluttering up what little amounts of their brain are capable of rational thought or critical analysis

Dead on, post more

Requiem
01-07-2010, 08:30 AM
I'm glad to see that Mike Shanahan is back coaching football. The D.C. area was one I had become interested in (job market for my degrees) post graduation, so it'd be nice to root for an NFC team or someone away from the Broncos. I do that with the Packers now, but meh. Redskins got cool jersey's.

PaintballCLE
01-07-2010, 08:51 AM
There's this guy over in Tennessee named Jeff Fisher. He's been head coaching his current franchise LONGER (since 1994-present) than even Shanahan (1995-2008).

Mr. Fisher has not won a single Super Bowl.

So he had/has Shanahan beat when it comes to "getting away" with staying employed at the same spot.

so hes never won a SB, but he has made and won playoff games. He also never had the worst defense in the league. That was the real problem I had with Shanny.....he was a great offensive coach, but because of that he always went after the players on offense. He ignored the defense for way too long.

Also......... signing for 3.5 mil/year to be both the coach and VP IS STICKING IT TO BOWLEN.......he could have easily gotten the 7 mil or probably even more than that from snyder.......that kinda rubs me the wrong way.

SureShot
01-07-2010, 08:59 AM
Awesome thread bro. If you are that worried about bandwidth your time could be better spent in the Server Drive thread and drop a few bucks.

Dendave
01-07-2010, 09:03 AM
I just don't understand some people; don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I have been a Denver Broncos fan for my whole life. I support the team. I have come to the understanding, surprise, that players, coaches and even owners change. I have no control over that, however, I try to support the people who are there and are currently in the organization. Believe me, I am the first one to admit that I get pissed when the Broncos do stupid things or lose games, but people it’s not the end of the world. I want and expect the Broncos to win every game. Are they going to? No? But I go into every game rooting for them to win not lose. I used to like coming to this board and get good Bronco information, but now it’s like a two headed monster, like we need to take sides. Well the sides to take are either you’re a fan of the Broncos and support them or you’re not. People can bit*h and moan all they want about what has happened or what will happen in the future, but really your opinion doesn’t count and it won’t change a thing. The people who are in charge are going to do the things they feel are best for the team, we might not agree with it but we have no control over it. People can say stop going to games, things will change…yeah tell that to the Lions, Detroit fans have stopped going to games to send a message to the owner, you know what has happened? The opposing teams fans are buying the tickets. I was at the Chicago-Detroit and Pittsburgh-Detroit game and it felt like the Lions were the away team. Do you think the owner cares? He just wants butts in the seats.
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So my point is quit all the bickering, unless that is how you get off in life.<o:p></o:p>
SUPPORT the Denver Broncos as an organization…you win some and lose some but just enjoy it<o:p></o:p>
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Rant over…have at it<o:p></o:p>

PaintballCLE
01-07-2010, 09:13 AM
I just don't understand some people; don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I have been a Denver Broncos fan for my whole life. I support the team. I have come to the understanding, surprise, that players, coaches and even owners change. I have no control over that, however, I try to support the people who are there and are currently in the organization. Believe me, I am the first one to admit that I get pissed when the Broncos do stupid things or lose games, but people it’s not the end of the world. I want and expect the Broncos to win every game. Are they going to? No? But I go into every game rooting for them to win not lose. I used to like coming to this board and get good Bronco information, but now it’s like a two headed monster, like we need to take sides. Well the sides to take are either you’re a fan of the Broncos and support them or you’re not. People can bit*h and moan all they want about what has happened or what will happen in the future, but really your opinion doesn’t count and it won’t change a thing. The people who are in charge are going to do the things they feel are best for the team, we might not agree with it but we have no control over it. People can say stop going to games, things will change…yeah tell that to the Lions, Detroit fans have stopped going to games to send a message to the owner, you know what has happened? The opposing teams fans are buying the tickets. I was at the Chicago-Detroit and Pittsburgh-Detroit game and it felt like the Lions were the away team. Do you think the owner cares? He just wants butts in the seats.
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So my point is quit all the bickering, unless that is how you get off in life.<o:p></o:p>
SUPPORT the Denver Broncos as an organization…you win some and lose some but just enjoy it<o:p></o:p>
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Rant over…have at it<o:p></o:p>

i completely agree dave.....its just that the mane is so divided its hard not to poke a little fun at it. though it does piss me off about the contract he signed.

Dagmar
01-07-2010, 09:17 AM
Is this just an American sports fan thing or is every fanbase as horribly divided to the point the home stadium no longer has any atmosphere, or is it like this everywhere?

PaintballCLE
01-07-2010, 09:18 AM
Awesome thread bro. If you are that worried about bandwidth your time could be better spent in the Server Drive thread and drop a few bucks.

i did.....but thanks for the heads up.

now why dont you actually go to a game this year and support the team.

PaintballCLE
01-07-2010, 09:23 AM
Is this just an American sports fan thing or is every fanbase as horribly divided to the point the home stadium no longer has any atmosphere, or is it like this everywhere?

no very few are like that........Miles (hawaii guy) and I have been to every game for the last two years (home and away) and of the stadiums we both feel the broncos has the worst atmosphere......

The only other stadiums that seemed split were Cleveland and Oakland........but once the game started they all come together where that doesnt happen in denver.

Also of all the stadiums Invesco is the "quietest" of all of them.........i dunno if its the fans, the stadium design, or what but its not even close.

The other weird thing is the treatment of opposing fans.......if i aguy walks through lot C with raiders gear on........very little if anything gets said to him. Any other stadium with the exception of indy opposing fans get treated horribly...........and i think thats y so many opposing fans come to the games in denver.

bpc
01-07-2010, 12:20 PM
I disagree about that, especially when we're talking about the former coach still getting money that the owner could be putting toward this team.

Is it legal? Yes. Does Shanny deserve it? Yes, without question. Does either change the fact that you were celebrating our former coach sticking it to our owner and by proxy the team and fanbase? No, it doesn't.

Funny. Why doesn't Bowlen get credit for hiring Shanahan, even after he was insubordinate to Dan Reeves? How about for sticking with Shanahan much longer than most owners would have?

You disagree because you're a retard.

As for Bowlen hiring Shanny, Mike could have had ANY job available after his run with the 49ers in 94'. He was all the rage. You know what he did? I don't remember him even considering any other jobs, he wanted to come to Denver.

Bowlen got lucky as hell that Shanahan had a love and affinity for Denver and Colorado. He made this franchise what it is today. Not Bowlen. Pat's just some idiot who signs the checks and wears really stupid aloha shirts in Denver.

bpc
01-07-2010, 12:23 PM
Again, why didn't you b**** about Shanny during his 10 years of underachieving? Just another hypocrite with a double-standard.....

I'm lazy and don't care to re-write stuff already typed out.

Here is my opinion of Shanny's last decade in Denver:

Originally Posted by gunns
Yes I am mad at him for not beating them. A kickass coach would have figured it out. No franchise QB's don't grow on trees. In that case you have to build up the rest of the team, defense included. That did not happen.


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Originally posted by bcp:

Guess what, we're the Cleveland Browns to the Colts version of the Denver Broncos in the 2000's.

Peyton Manning owned us. Can you chalk it up to anything more than having to play the greatest QB of all time, multiple times in the playoffs? It sucks but that's where Peyton is going to go down in the history of the NFL.

I think eventually we'll look back and say "damn, we had some rough roads to the super bowl."

Baltimore was invicible in 2000. They beat us in a close game on a couple fluke plays. Who knows what we do if we made it past them.

Both Colts playoff losses were heart breaking. Patriots ended up winning those super bowls and are the team of the decade. Had they not had their incredible run, Manning probably has 3 super bowls right now.

2005 was just a run of destiny for Steelers. We had home field advantage and a great record and they just flat beat us on both sides of the ball. I think if we played that game over 10 times, they would beat us every time. It wasn't from a lack of trying on Shanahan's part though. We brought a knife to a gunfight. There's no way that Jake Plummer could go blow for blow with Big Ben or Peyton Manning for that matter either.

Some people will call me crazy but I thought Mike Shanahan did some of his best coaching during the last 10 years in Denver. The fact hat he resurrected Plummer's career from being an ultimate loser to a playoff QB tells me volumes about Mike's ability. I don't think anybody else in the league could have gotten that out of him.

Plummer hates Mike now because he couldn't handle a little QB competition but he should appreciate all the high's that Shanahan allowed him to have in his NFL career.

rastaman
01-07-2010, 12:39 PM
Again, why didn't you b**** about Shanny during his 10 years of underachieving? Just another hypocrite with a double-standard.....

Looks like Bowlen hired another type of dem types of coaches!Ha!

Florida_Bronco
01-07-2010, 01:03 PM
You disagree because you're a retard. Say what you want, but there isn't a single person on this forum who could come up with any valid reason to question me being a Broncos fan.

As for Bowlen hiring Shanny, Mike could have had ANY job available after his run with the 49ers in 94'. He was all the rage. You know what he did? I don't remember him even considering any other jobs, he wanted to come to Denver.

Bowlen got lucky as hell that Shanahan had a love and affinity for Denver and Colorado. He made this franchise what it is today. Not Bowlen. Pat's just some idiot who signs the checks and wears really stupid aloha shirts in Denver. This is funny. Bowlen is an idiot now.

LOL

missingnumber7
01-07-2010, 01:42 PM
i just wish people would face the facts......he was a terrible GM........... thats why i think washington justed ****ed up by giving him final say on all player and coaching decisions....

This statement is why he isn't in Denver anymore...this and his inability to find someone that he could trust to RUN the defense.

I liked Mike when he was here...later...I hated Phillips...still do...Reeves was an ok guy...later.

Sooner or later McD will be somewhere else...oh well.

I'm a Broncos fan, not a coach of the Broncos fan or QB of the Broncos fan.

SureShot
01-07-2010, 01:53 PM
i did.....but thanks for the heads up.

now why dont you actually go to a game this year and support the team.

I assume you have season tickets...want part with any? I had season tix in 2005,2006 and 2007, but I moved to the western slope and now I only have time to go see one ****ty team play (The Buffs).

baja
01-07-2010, 09:01 PM
Hey I was Extremeskins and somehow got sucked into this thread

sup

Congrats of getting Shanahan he will be good for your team.