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PRBronco
01-06-2010, 02:19 PM
He seems to be the early favourite for us in mock drafts (all but guaranteeing he won't end up here). So we should definitely over analyze him.

I've yet to read a single bad thing about him, and I'm looking forward to watching him in the National Championship game tomorrow. I got to wondering though, is there any concern that he looks better than he is because he's playing behind Cody, or is he the real deal?

bpc
01-06-2010, 05:27 PM
I'm eagerly anticipating his game tomorrow night. I've seen some film on him and I haven't been as impressed as I thought I would be. I'm more excited about his numbers vs. actual production. He's enormous at 6'4", 245. Seems like he's solid athletically.

In interviews he doesn't come off that sharp IMO. On the field of play he's a run and chase LB but you won't find a lot of explosion from his movements. His engine seems hot and colt to me. Sometimes he's on and then other times he's just loafing around. I don't see a huge difference maker when I turn on his film, rather, I see a cog in an impressive engine that is just maintaining.

I'd compare him physically to a Chris Claiborne type that came out of USC a few years back. Much the same, he was a hot and cold player who just didn't play hard enough consistently.

We'll see the game tomorrow. After the film i've watched thus far, I wouldn't consider him at 10. There are better players out there who can help us more.

Bronco Boy
01-06-2010, 08:35 PM
He looks good to me. Would be a good replacement for Davis and could probably also play outside if needed.

Elway777
01-07-2010, 12:38 AM
I'm eagerly anticipating his game tomorrow night. I've seen some film on him and I haven't been as impressed as I thought I would be. I'm more excited about his numbers vs. actual production. He's enormous at 6'4", 245. Seems like he's solid athletically.

In interviews he doesn't come off that sharp IMO. On the field of play he's a run and chase LB but you won't find a lot of explosion from his movements. His engine seems hot and colt to me. Sometimes he's on and then other times he's just loafing around. I don't see a huge difference maker when I turn on his film, rather, I see a cog in an impressive engine that is just maintaining.

I'd compare him physically to a Chris Claiborne type that came out of USC a few years back. Much the same, he was a hot and cold player who just didn't play hard enough consistently.

We'll see the game tomorrow. After the film i've watched thus far, I wouldn't consider him at 10. There are better players out there who can help us more. I agee with you of what I watched on Utube videos. McClain is a good solid player that is not real explosive. I personal like Spikes for a Ted linebacker more because he is a more physical linebacker. I rather trade down in get Spikes then draft McClain.

bpc
01-07-2010, 01:07 AM
I agee with you of what I watched on Utube videos. McClain is a good solid player that is not real explosive. I personal like Spikes for a Ted linebacker more because he is a more physical linebacker. I rather trade down in get Spikes then draft McClain.

I'd like my MLB's in a 3-4 to be downhill players. The comparison always sits with Ray Lewis. Not really fair, because he's gonna go down as one of the greatest MLB's in history but you like that guy who hits the hole with a sledge hammer. I definitely see that more with Spikes than I do with McClain.

McCLain may end up being a very good player. I just haven't seen enough of him to say that he's a stand alone defender. What I mean by that is, he'll dominate on any defense, at any time. DJ Williams is another guy who isn't a stand alone guy. He's a product of the players around him. I would love to find a true difference maker at the Mike position but I don't see that person that at #10. We'd be better served looking at the offensive line/defensive line or edge rusher.

meangene
01-07-2010, 07:52 AM
I think he is a can't miss three down LB who is asked to do everything in Alabama's scheme. He is more like 260 and flies sideline to sideline, is a great blitzer (when given the opportunity) and is terrific in coverage. Far superior instincts to D.J. I would compare him more to Patrick Willis - a tackling machine. He looked like a much better player than Spikes in the SEC Championship game. I think he is too good to pass up at #10 even though Davis is adequate at ILB. My next choice would be Brian Price of UCLA to play DE. A little shorter than ideal but an incredibly active play-making 300 lbs. His stock will soar in the post-season workouts and combine.

meangene
01-07-2010, 08:01 AM
Great article on him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=4619628

Requiem
01-07-2010, 11:19 AM
If he is there at #10/#11, it'll be hard not to take him. He is a very good prospect.

PRBronco
01-07-2010, 01:11 PM
Great article on him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=4619628

Nice. After having my heart broken by DJ's guesses all these years, the term "football smarts" gets me over excited.

bpc
01-07-2010, 01:15 PM
I think he is a can't miss three down LB who is asked to do everything in Alabama's scheme. He is more like 260 and flies sideline to sideline, is a great blitzer (when given the opportunity) and is terrific in coverage. Far superior instincts to D.J. I would compare him more to Patrick Willis - a tackling machine. He looked like a much better player than Spikes in the SEC Championship game. I think he is too good to pass up at #10 even though Davis is adequate at ILB. My next choice would be Brian Price of UCLA to play DE. A little shorter than ideal but an incredibly active play-making 300 lbs. His stock will soar in the post-season workouts and combine.

It's all a matter of opinion. I was off on the weight. Good call. I'll give him credit for his ability but i've watched Willis and i've seen some video and McClain and their style of play is different. I felt very certain Willis was going to be a stud. I'm not certain with McCLain yet.

My biggest fault with DJ is his lack of instincts. That's huge at the MLB position and where Willis truly sets himself apart.

I'm looking forward to tonight to watch him further. I'm expecting a huge game for him and that would do a lot to boost my confidence in him.

bpc
01-07-2010, 01:17 PM
Great article on him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=4619628

I read that article and I watched the special on him which was on college gameday.

Needless to say, I didn't come away with the same opinion watching that special, reading that article that I did watching him on the field.

I feel there is something missing to his game.

We'll see tonight though. Film don't lie. I hope i'm wrong. I want more quality players to be there for us at 10 or 11.

oubronco
01-07-2010, 01:59 PM
well I am interested to see what he can do against Texass tonite, this will be a good game

Mediator12
01-07-2010, 02:45 PM
McClain has been dehydrated with the flu this week and did not really practice at all. I hope he can go and play at his best. I would not be surprised to see him miss time with cramps late in the game.

As for his film, I tend to agree with bpc on that. He is not as flashy as I had hoped. Willis just jumped out all over the place on tape, McClain was not as consistent.

bpc
01-07-2010, 02:48 PM
McClain has been dehydrated with the flu this week and did not really practice at all. I hope he can go and play at his best. I would not be surprised to see him miss time with cramps late in the game.

As for his film, I tend to agree with bpc on that. He is not as flashy as I had hoped. Willis just jumped out all over the place on tape, McClain was not as consistent.

Factor in that Willis had 140 tackles his final year at Ole Miss...

along with a club forearm. :) He's a tough SOB.

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/patrick%20willis" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i19/frtyninerfn22/Willis_Patrick101505.png" border="0" alt="49ers LB Patrick Willis Pictures, Images and Photos"/></a>

meangene
01-07-2010, 03:42 PM
It's all a matter of opinion. I was off on the weight. Good call. I'll give him credit for his ability but i've watched Willis and i've seen some video and McClain and their style of play is different. I felt very certain Willis was going to be a stud. I'm not certain with McCLain yet.

My biggest fault with DJ is his lack of instincts. That's huge at the MLB position and where Willis truly sets himself apart.

I'm looking forward to tonight to watch him further. I'm expecting a huge game for him and that would do a lot to boost my confidence in him.

I'm not sure you're going to see him at his best tonight since he has been down with the flu all week. Playing big at less than 100% would say a lot, though. I'm really looking forward to the game.

bpc
01-07-2010, 08:31 PM
I think McClain's had a solid game thus far. He's blown up a couple of plays and has been in the heat of the action. It doesn't look like the flue has really slowed him down at all.

I wish Texas could have put forth better effort. They're lifeless right now and I can't think of a worse coach to break in a freshman QB against. Saban is going to be mercilous.

I've had a chance to watch while i'm cooking dinner but I have the game on DVR and i'll watch McClain, Kindle, the UT FS, Arenas and a few others more tonight.

I'll tell you what though, that #57 DL from Alabama has blown me away. That kid has stud written all over him. He's massive too. Talk about a perfect 3-4 defensive linemen. For a big guy, he has a great burst as well in the time that I saw him. That stiff arm on the INT flatbacked one of the Texas offensive linemen. His arms look like 30 inches.

I've never really cared for Mack Brown's setup. I respect him as a coach but his teams have always seemed soft. Even when they won the last national championship, it was more about Vince Young than physically destroying opponents.

Nick Saban doesn't mess around. He's a frickin machine as a coach, and the worst thing for the country is that he's recruiting all 5 star athletes and they're instantly adopting his MO. I haven't seen a team this physical in a long time.

Rohirrim
01-07-2010, 09:18 PM
I think McClain's had a solid game thus far. He's blown up a couple of plays and has been in the heat of the action. It doesn't look like the flue has really slowed him down at all.

I wish Texas could have put forth better effort. They're lifeless right now and I can't think of a worse coach to break in a freshman QB against. Saban is going to be mercilous.

I've had a chance to watch while i'm cooking dinner but I have the game on DVR and i'll watch McClain, Kindle, the UT FS, Arenas and a few others more tonight.

I'll tell you what though, that #57 DL from Alabama has blown me away. That kid has stud written all over him. He's massive too. Talk about a perfect 3-4 defensive linemen. For a big guy, he has a great burst as well in the time that I saw him. That stiff arm on the INT flatbacked one of the Texas offensive linemen. His arms look like 30 inches.

I've never really cared for Mack Brown's setup. I respect him as a coach but his teams have always seemed soft. Even when they won the last national championship, it was more about Vince Young than physically destroying opponents.

Nick Saban doesn't mess around. He's a frickin machine as a coach, and the worst thing for the country is that he's recruiting all 5 star athletes and they're instantly adopting his MO. I haven't seen a team this physical in a long time.

Which is the direction I hope the Broncos are headed.

The amazing thing about Darcell Mareous (#57) is that he's a sophomore.

oubronco
01-08-2010, 09:04 AM
I would love to get Dareus that guy is a beast DE and McClain played pretty damn good for having the flu all week

meangene
01-08-2010, 11:38 AM
I would love to get Dareus that guy is a beast DE and McClain played pretty damn good for having the flu all week

Yeah, I'm not sure McClain lasts until our pick. Dareus reminded me a lot of Brian Price last night. Price might be a good option for us. I expect him to move up the draft charts. I don't think he was being rated as highly as he should have been because he had announced preseason that he was coming back to UCLA and he was kind of overlooked.

elsid13
01-08-2010, 02:36 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure McClain lasts until our pick. Dareus reminded me a lot of Brian Price last night. Price might be a good option for us. I expect him to move up the draft charts. I don't think he was being rated as highly as he should have been because he had announced preseason that he was coming back to UCLA and he was kind of overlooked.

The question with Price is can he play DE for Denver or his UT in 4/3? I think he has the ability to play DE/DT like Field does but the combine is going to be important for him.

meangene
01-08-2010, 02:54 PM
The question with Price is can he play DE for Denver or his UT in 4/3? I think he has the ability to play DE/DT like Field does but the combine is going to be important for him.

Seems like most all of these 3-4 DE are projections since almost nobody really plays a 3-4 in college. But, I think he can make the transition since they played him all over the place at UCLA. Big dude!

elsid13
01-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Seems like most all of these 3-4 DE are projections since almost nobody really plays a 3-4 in college. But, I think he can make the transition since they played him all over the place at UCLA. Big dude!

I know I like him a lot. He carrying some "bad" weight (about 25 pounds), but that should be fixed when he gets some professional strength and conditioning and good nutritionist

27atwater
01-12-2010, 09:16 AM
Must get McClain. Noone else @ that spot will have the same value to us. Haden and Dez Bryant would be my other 2 choices, but McClain is more important to us at this point.

ColoradoBuff
01-13-2010, 03:46 PM
McClain is gonna be a stud!

snowtrx
01-14-2010, 01:35 PM
McClain would also be good bait. Who knows at this point how the draft will turn out, but NE should love McClain also and they have 3 2nds. #22 + #42 are very close to #10 or #11 in value. Cody should be there at 22 and Spikes at 42 would be amazing. Maybe a bump up with a 4th would be necessary for Spikes. 42 + 4th = 35

McClain & 4th vs. Cody & Spikes. Who you got?

And my girlfriend wonders why I love the draft /FA so much.

Rohirrim
01-14-2010, 01:54 PM
McClain strikes me as one of those guys who's going to blow away the Combine and be unreachable once draft day rolls around.

Doggcow
01-14-2010, 01:55 PM
McClain strikes me as one of those guys who's going to blow away the Combine and be unreachable once draft day rolls around.

I hope not. The more I look at him, the more I like him. I've watched a couple of his interviews too and he looks like he would be a really solid guy to have on our side.

PRBronco
01-14-2010, 02:29 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2711290&postcount=72

A video from the main forums, sparked discussion that he doesn't always go all out.

/discuss?

GoBroncos84
01-16-2010, 05:48 PM
The more I study about him, the more I like him. I don't think ILB is the biggest need, but looking at the players who could be available at that spot he seems like the best value if he is there. If we can get Ayers developed and have a starting linebacker crew of Ayers, McClain, Williams, Dumervil that will be extremely scary



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7WRye9Bm0

GoBroncos84
01-16-2010, 05:49 PM
Comprehensive breakdown of Spikes Vs McClain, with lots of video




http://www.universaldraft.com/2009/12/31/lowering-the-boom-lb-brandon-spikes-vs-lb-rolondo-mcclain-sec-championship/

anton
01-17-2010, 04:13 AM
2009 highlights/lowlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pRYm5zOe4g</EMBED></EMBED>

nickademus
01-17-2010, 10:18 AM
Comprehensive breakdown of Spikes Vs McClain, with lots of video




http://www.universaldraft.com/2009/12/31/lowering-the-boom-lb-brandon-spikes-vs-lb-rolondo-mcclain-sec-championship/

thank you for this!!!

This is a great illustration of why BPC is a little down on McClain and questions his speed and while he is good sideline to sideline he is poor at mis direction or change of direction as is pointed out pretty clearly here. I still think he would be a huge upgrade over Davis and would really be a nice fit next to DJ. Spikes on the other hand I feel like is similar to DJ in alot of ways but if we were still running a 4-3 I would like him more. The thing that stands out the most to me is how McClain aligns the D on every play he is clearly the qb of the d. If it comes down to McClain or a QB or WR I will take McClain with the no.10/11 pick. There are a few DTs in this draft I really like and hopefully we could land a solid NT with whatever we get for Marshall. The only other thing I am worried about with our D is Champ I have a gut feeling he is going to be asked to re-structure or he will be gone and we really dont have an answer for that as of yet.

GoBroncos84
01-17-2010, 10:52 AM
thank you for this!!!

This is a great illustration of why BPC is a little down on McClain and questions his speed and while he is good sideline to sideline he is poor at mis direction or change of direction as is pointed out pretty clearly here. I still think he would be a huge upgrade over Davis and would really be a nice fit next to DJ. Spikes on the other hand I feel like is similar to DJ in alot of ways but if we were still running a 4-3 I would like him more. The thing that stands out the most to me is how McClain aligns the D on every play he is clearly the qb of the d. If it comes down to McClain or a QB or WR I will take McClain with the no.10/11 pick. There are a few DTs in this draft I really like and hopefully we could land a solid NT with whatever we get for Marshall. The only other thing I am worried about with our D is Champ I have a gut feeling he is going to be asked to re-structure or he will be gone and we really dont have an answer for that as of yet.

Yeah, I am not on the side of people saying McClain is the next Patrick Willis. I think he is very solid all around, a great fit for our system, and has amazing instincts and intelligence. But he isn't as explosive as a Willis. But looking at the top of the draft, if he is there at 10/11 he is probably the best value and I would be very happy with the pick so long as we address the d-line later in the draft and via free agency.

rather than have Champ re-structure I think they should extend his contract. I don't see him leaving the team this offseason. If he isn't a bronco then Haden becomes a possibility, but I just don't see that happening. Then again this time last year I didn't see Cutler or Marshall going anywhere for the next decade so who knows

meangene
01-17-2010, 02:00 PM
I think McClain is a big, fast, intelligent LB with rare instincts and leadership skills. What I think people are seeing as weaknesses with him in terms of run and chase is simply him being disciplined enough to maintain his responsibilities, not overrun plays and not get out of position. What is the expression? Do your job! I think folks are looking to nitpick him a bit ever since he became the consensus mock draft pick for us. The guy is a first-team All-American, Butkus award winner, and the unquestioned leader of the national champion defense. He is lauded for his work ethic, film study and leadership skills. He is exactly what this defense lacked and why we gave up so many big runs - guys not maintaining their gaps and trying to do too much. I don't know how many times McD said, after viewing the film, that was the issue. DJ has rare physical skills but almost no instincts and is a hit-or-miss free-lance player. McClain would help cover for that. You hope that with more experience and reps in this defense DJ will improve some in this area. McClain is a much bigger man than Wilson and does not have that kind of sideline to sideline speed. But, he still has excellent speed and would be better at taking on blockers at the point. He is smooth in coverage and a sure tackler. Spikes reminds me of DJ in that he is more of a free-lance player and not particularly instinctive.

On the DL, I really think we have more of an issue with the DE than at NT. Everyone seems to think we need a big, fat block absorber type of NT but I look at guys like Ratliff, Franklin (who is gonna get franchised) and Gregg who are no bigger than Fields. These "smaller" NT's are a better fit IMO in Nolan's defense and Fields typically graded out well against the run. Baker is a young guy who could well develop there as well. Our DE's, on the other hand, rarely made plays, occupied blockers or got penetration. This draft is deep in guys who can play DE in the 3-4 (some bigger DE's and some DT's). Add McClain and one or two solid 3-4 DE's and we have the makings of a very solid defense.

nickademus
01-17-2010, 02:34 PM
I really think that McClain would be a perfect fit next to DJ and while you could explain some of McClains weakness by saying he is staying home or maintaining his assignment but the truth is he is not as athletic as DJ or Spikes and while he is no slouch this will be an issue for him but pair him with a player like DJ and much of both of their weaknesses will be covered. I dont like the patrick willis compairson other than they are both field generals and play really smart, willis is a freak athlete not to mention he is huge. McClain is a good athlete but not on the same level. I am not nit-picking as I hope he is our pick but we were talking strengths and weaknesses so it was a part of the conversation.

ward63
01-17-2010, 03:54 PM
McClain or trade in the first. He's the only one I really want in the first!

meangene
01-17-2010, 06:26 PM
I really think that McClain would be a perfect fit next to DJ and while you could explain some of McClains weakness by saying he is staying home or maintaining his assignment but the truth is he is not as athletic as DJ or Spikes and while he is no slouch this will be an issue for him but pair him with a player like DJ and much of both of their weaknesses will be covered. I dont like the patrick willis compairson other than they are both field generals and play really smart, willis is a freak athlete not to mention he is huge. McClain is a good athlete but not on the same level. I am not nit-picking as I hope he is our pick but we were talking strengths and weaknesses so it was a part of the conversation.

It's funny that Willis was not quite as highly rated after his senior season but really shot up the charts with his showing in the pre-draft events. I think you will find McClain's athleticism will really shine through as well in the offseason workouts. He is already a good 15 lbs. bigger than DJ or Willis as well. He has stated that he has been timed under 4.6 in the 40 at 258 lbs. His athleticism is underrated IMO. But, at least we agree he is worthy of our first pick. I hope he is still there when we pick.

Mediator12
01-18-2010, 12:24 PM
There is still an awful lot of talk about McClain @ 10. In order to be drafted in the top 10, you need to be a special can not miss player. That is why bpc and I were comparing him to Patrick Willis. He was the last MIKE who fell into that category in the draft. It was a comparative reference to what a top 10 MIKE should look like coming out, not their actual style of play.

There are a ton of quality LB's coming out this year and right now McClain is not even my favorite that I have seen on film. He is a great looking prospect and a borderline top 10 pick to me right now. However, with so many underclassmen declaring and a bunch of quality Seniors where he fits is still up in the air.

PRBronco
01-18-2010, 12:34 PM
There is still an awful lot of talk about McClain @ 10. In order to be drafted in the top 10, you need to be a special can not miss player. That is why bpc and I were comparing him to Patrick Willis. He was the last MIKE who fell into that category in the draft. It was a comparative reference to what a top 10 MIKE should look like coming out, not their actual style of play.

There are a ton of quality LB's coming out this year and right now McClain is not even my favorite that I have seen on film. He is a great looking prospect and a borderline top 10 pick to me right now. However, with so many underclassmen declaring and a bunch of quality Seniors where he fits is still up in the air.

Hey Med what's your take on Terrence Cody?

(Derailing my own thread ><)

gyldenlove
01-18-2010, 01:47 PM
I like Mcclain, he is athletic for someone with his size, he is very cerebral and he is technically sound. I think Mcclain would be an excellent fit on the inside, to me his biggest weakness is in man coverage where he isn't quite there in terms of quickness.

Spikes to me seems to be lacking a bit in terms of athleticism and certainly he is not as cerebral as Mcclain. Spikes is to my mind going to be a 2nd round pick unless he really blows the combine away with something like a 4.50 speed.

Terrence Cody is a guy I like from the point of view that you don't find many young guys his size who can play. I don't think he has a real red flag to him, I know people are saying his conditioning isn't good but that is the knock on every single 310+ DT that comes out - I am sure if you put Shaun Rogers or Casey Hampton through the same drills they would be as gassed as these kids. In a perfect world Cody doesn't have value in the top 10 or top 15 simply because he plays a very limited game and doesn't have quite the repertoire of moves. However as we have seen several teams are happy to take scheme player earlier than talent warrants as we saw with Tyson Jackson and others last year.

Mediator12
01-21-2010, 12:49 PM
Hey Med what's your take on Terrence Cody?

(Derailing my own thread ><)

Cody is good at what he does, but I am not that high on limited players. Personally, I would rather draft a more functional player like Dan Williams than Cody. And, that also means at NT in a 3-4. Cody played a ton in a very talented rotation and I ma not sure how well he would do without the same level of help laterally and behind him. That is what I see in a nutshell.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-25-2010, 08:14 AM
The more I study about him, the more I like him. I don't think ILB is the biggest need, but looking at the players who could be available at that spot he seems like the best value if he is there. If we can get Ayers developed and have a starting linebacker crew of Ayers, McClain, Williams, Dumervil that will be extremely scary



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7WRye9Bm0

'member when people talked about us having the best LB corps in the league? How they were undersized but just super-fast and just got to the ball carrier all the time?

Yeah, I want to go back there.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-25-2010, 08:20 AM
There is still an awful lot of talk about McClain @ 10. In order to be drafted in the top 10, you need to be a special can not miss player. That is why bpc and I were comparing him to Patrick Willis. He was the last MIKE who fell into that category in the draft. It was a comparative reference to what a top 10 MIKE should look like coming out, not their actual style of play.

There are a ton of quality LB's coming out this year and right now McClain is not even my favorite that I have seen on film. He is a great looking prospect and a borderline top 10 pick to me right now. However, with so many underclassmen declaring and a bunch of quality Seniors where he fits is still up in the air.

So who are the LBs coming out that you like better?

Mediator12
01-25-2010, 10:22 AM
So who are the LBs coming out that you like better?

I would tell you, but there are mock drafts coming ;D

There are certain players I keep under the vest until we draft, mostly 2-4th round selections. I will say this, this years LB class is stellar since a bunch of extremely talented players declared early. Same thing with DT. Still need to get to the secondary. I always start from the front and work to the back end.

gyldenlove
01-25-2010, 12:34 PM
Mcclain could definitely end up in Kansas City, they need a lot of defensive help and Pioli has shown he is willing to reach for a good fit for his defense. Pioli was also involved in the Jerod Meyo reach so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them call Mcclain.

Ray Finkle
01-25-2010, 08:42 PM
I would tell you, but there are mock drafts coming ;D

There are certain players I keep under the vest until we draft, mostly 2-4th round selections. I will say this, this years LB class is stellar since a bunch of extremely talented players declared early. Same thing with DT. Still need to get to the secondary. I always start from the front and work to the back end.

Med,
Mock drafts aside, if there were say 8 players you thought would be assets to Denver (no matter where they played) out of this draft, who would they be?

Mediator12
01-25-2010, 10:22 PM
Med,
Mock drafts aside, if there were say 8 players you thought would be assets to Denver (no matter where they played) out of this draft, who would they be?

I am not there yet Ray. It is still early in the process, and I am still working the Defensive front seven. What I will say is there is a tremendous amount of 3-4 DL talent in this draft. 2-3 times more than last year. Losing that draft pick for Smith better pay off, because the DL has some great prospects finally at positions of need. There are also a ton more 3-4 ILB/OLB's as well that could be huge. I just started working on the secondary, but there are #1 CB's and FS's in this draft unlike last year IMHO.

I do not get around to the offense for Awhile ;D However, I do have some notes on the players these guys played against. From what I have seen so far, the OL is fairly weak this year compared to the last few Years, especially inside. There are a couple of real solid OT's, but that is where DEN is pretty good. However, their are some real nice developmental prospects out there. I do not have a good feel at all on the Skill positions outside a few players, but I would say they are a little low compared to the defensive side of the ball.