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Jekyll15Hyde
01-03-2010, 06:32 PM
Bears finish 7-9 for in a 3 way tie with Jax and Miami. These teams have the 10-12 slots.

The first tiebreaker is SOS.
http://football.about.com/od/miscinformation/a/detdraftorder.htm

Using the Sagarin ratings to determine SOS, http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl09.htm
Miami has the #1 schedule (toughest), Jax had #13 and Bears are #20 going into today and the Bears will only fall in that category after playing Detwat.

So I think this means we have the number 10 pick....

Discuss

extralife
01-03-2010, 06:33 PM
lets hope the team that signs marshall has a high pick too

SureShot
01-03-2010, 06:34 PM
http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Oklahoma+State+v+Missouri+Gbdj0D9t1-wl.jpg

http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-stories/2009/05/large_Rolando%20McClain%20-%20almond.jpg

OBF1
01-03-2010, 06:37 PM
I guess you did not watch the game today.... We need O and D line in the worse way. Signing a WR or other skill position will not stop Jamaal Charles and Company fro running for 300+ yards against us. Might want to consider a LB or 2 while we are at it.

Jekyll15Hyde
01-03-2010, 06:43 PM
And I think the Alphonso Smith pick now is #17. Not 1000% positive

BroncoSojia
01-03-2010, 06:43 PM
I hope we draft him:


http://z.about.com/d/football/1/0/A/R/SamBradford2a.jpg

SureShot
01-03-2010, 06:45 PM
I guess you did not watch the game today.... We need O and D line in the worse way. Signing a WR or other skill position will not stop Jamaal Charles and Company fro running for 300+ yards against us. Might want to consider a LB or 2 while we are at it.

We had the same problem last year but that didnt stop the Brocos from loading up on RBs TEs and DBs.

Denver724
01-03-2010, 06:46 PM
And I think the Alphonso Smith pick now is #17. Not 1000% positive

I read somewhere that it is #14, which makes me sick. I have always wanted the Broncos to be on the receiving end of these trades and we are always on the giving end.

bpc
01-03-2010, 06:48 PM
There are so many holes, it's scary. All we can do is draft BPA try to fill them one at a time. Hopefully we aren't cheap and can pick up a few starters in FA.

Dudeskey
01-03-2010, 06:51 PM
I hope we draft him:


http://z.about.com/d/football/1/0/A/R/SamBradford2a.jpg

With any luck his injury history will push him down to the 2nd round. I wouldn't mind if we traded up to get Suh...

SureShot
01-03-2010, 06:54 PM
Suh will be the first one off the board.

SoDak Bronco
01-03-2010, 06:54 PM
bradford won't go in the 2nd round...maybe middle of the first, but I doubt he goes past 12, someone will trade up for a guy of his ability. Suh and Berry are the studs of this draft, i would love to get either, but its probably not worth the price with all the holes we have.

BroncoSojia
01-03-2010, 06:57 PM
With any luck his injury history will push him down to the 2nd round. I wouldn't mind if we traded up to get Suh...

Yeah but would he be a good fit for the 3-4?

Too small to be a N-T and I think his talent would be wasted as a 3-4 DE.

Jekyll15Hyde
01-03-2010, 06:59 PM
I read somewhere that it is #14, which makes me sick. I have always wanted the Broncos to be on the receiving end of these trades and we are always on the giving end.

It all depends on how our SOS fell after playing KC. The "best" 8-8 team was Carolina who had #3 prior to today and that will hold or increase with NO. They will have #17, so we could best hope for #16 (i cant count)

Hamrob
01-03-2010, 06:59 PM
Bradford may end up going #5 to the Skins. That's if Clausen is already gone.

bpc
01-03-2010, 06:59 PM
I wouldn't be suprised to see Shanny take a chance on Bradford if he's coaching Washington.

QB, WR, interior OL, 3 starters needed at DE/NT, an MLB, a playmaking OLB, and CB's are going to be needed after 2010.

Jekyll15Hyde
01-03-2010, 07:00 PM
I hope we draft him:


http://z.about.com/d/football/1/0/A/R/SamBradford2a.jpg

Sorry, not sold on him and his injury history.

We have to make this last Quitler pick pay off

Hamrob
01-03-2010, 07:00 PM
Mount Cody seems to be the best NT coming out.

bpc
01-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Mount Cody seems to be the best NT coming out.

I would rather go the free agent route. While I think Cody has some game, I don't think he's great for the NFL game.

I would rather try to get in line for Vince Woolfork's services this offseason (fat chance) and/or A. Franklin from SF who is also a free agent.

Denver needs another high impact player for the front seven or a QB if we stay at 10.

If we can trade back, I would earmark Mike Iopati and another front 7 player. Hughes from TCU, or Gibson from Ohio State possibly.

ludo21
01-03-2010, 07:09 PM
BPA

We need talent everywhere. I would love a top notch WR if Marshall is gone, but I wouldnt mind taking a top 3 QB to get Orton on the sidelines either.

Interior OL can be had in 2nd and 3rd rounds easily.

Jerry Curl
01-03-2010, 07:20 PM
http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-stories/2009/05/large_Rolando%20McClain%20-%20almond.jpg
This.

LongDongJohnson
01-03-2010, 07:36 PM
we gave up 300 yards rushing today.

we gave up 250 yards to the raiders.

that is the number 1 reason we lost those 2 games.

i think its obvious that our defense is still a soft piece of crap and cant stop the run. mcdaniels please fix the run defense.

a defense can not be good if it cant stop the run...

oubronco
01-03-2010, 07:58 PM
I hope we draft him:


http://z.about.com/d/football/1/0/A/R/SamBradford2a.jpg

Amen Brotha

meangene
01-04-2010, 03:34 AM
Round #1 (assuming Marshall goes for a first) - McClain, Golden Tate (game-breaker who know the system, amazing hands and run-after-the-catch ability).

Round #2, Round #3 - best DL or interior OL available. It is going to be a good draft for guys who will fit as 3-4 DE so we could do well here in the second or third round. Interior OL are typically undervalued so we may get some steals here as well.

Also, seriously make a run at Mankins!

WolfpackGuy
01-04-2010, 04:28 AM
Can they please draft another slow/stumbling/dancing halfback in the first round?

I'd like to have those Smith and Quinn picks back as well.

Northman
01-04-2010, 04:34 AM
We have the 11th pick.

Wes Mantooth
01-04-2010, 05:03 AM
I hope we draft him:


http://z.about.com/d/football/1/0/A/R/SamBradford2a.jpg

two shoulder injuries in a season that keep him off the field. Sounds like a plan!

epicSocialism4tw
01-04-2010, 05:48 AM
Sam Bradford.

This team needs a QB. A QB who can run an offense.

barryr
01-04-2010, 06:03 AM
This team needs help in the interior of the OL, DL help, and really anybody on defense that can make a play other than Dawkins, especially in the front 7. Until those needs are filled, this team isn't headed anywhere.

But with the top pick, it should be BPA which I seriously doubt will be a QB.

Denver724
01-04-2010, 07:08 AM
We have the 11th pick.

And Seattle has the 14th (ours). Huge McD **** up.

Denver724
01-04-2010, 07:10 AM
And Seattle has the 14th (ours). Huge McD **** up.

Also, it looks like we have a coin flip with Jacksonville.

WolfpackGuy
01-04-2010, 07:11 AM
And Seattle has the 14th (ours). Huge McD **** up.

I disagree.

It's not everyday you can pick up a midget nickel back who can't cover or return in exchange for the 14th overall pick...

lostknight
01-04-2010, 08:58 AM
I like the position - there is usually good value around 11th.

Of course, the move last year to grab Alphonso smith looks insanely stupid at the moment. But then again, it looked insanely stupid last year as well.

I like Smith, but he did not show up once.

Garcia Bronco
01-04-2010, 09:01 AM
Still no top ten pick...technically we got the 10 pick in 2000, but traded it away. I believe Mike Croel was the last top ten pick.

cousinal11
01-04-2010, 09:14 AM
What do we get in compensation if someone else signs Marshall?

missingnumber7
01-04-2010, 09:15 AM
Sorry, not sold on him and his injury history.

We have to make this last Quitler pick pay off

Adrian Peterson had a similar injury history while at BoomerSooner U

epicSocialism4tw
01-04-2010, 09:16 AM
Adrian Peterson had a similar injury history while at BoomerSooner U

Adrian Peterson was actually injured more frequently.

missingnumber7
01-04-2010, 09:17 AM
Adrian Peterson was actually injured more frequently.

And he takes more abuse in the NFL and has hardly had any issues.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-04-2010, 09:21 AM
And Seattle has the 14th (ours). Huge McD **** up.

Let me spell it out for you using that fake, retard sign language reserved for people who dont understand ****.


Bowlen.Didnt.Want.To.Pay.Four.First.Round.Picks.

epicSocialism4tw
01-04-2010, 09:28 AM
And he takes more abuse in the NFL and has hardly had any issues.

Yeah...thats because players like AD and Bradford try to preserve their bodies while in college so that they can risk them in the pros.

Players play injured all year in the pros. Its rare that a player not have injuries over the course of a season.

epicSocialism4tw
01-04-2010, 09:29 AM
Let me spell it out for you using that fake, retard sign language reserved for people who dont understand ****.


Bowlen.Didnt.Want.To.Pay.Four.First.Round.Picks.

And.Thats.Why.It.Sucks.Even.Worse.

Cheap.Owners.Lose.Fans.Fast.

Denver724
01-04-2010, 09:32 AM
And.Thats.Why.It.Sucks.Even.Worse.

Cheap.Owners.Lose.Fans.Fast.

And over 4,000 fans didn't show up to our "playoff" game yesterday.

We need more talented players and Smith, so far, does not qualify.

bpc
01-04-2010, 09:46 AM
There are a lot of guys we will be interested in.

Wildcard is what happens to Marshall, and what type of compensation do we get back?

I'm a fan of Derrick Morgan around #10 or 11. If he's not there it would be great to trade back and attempt to land several targets, such as Golden Tate, Mike Iupatie, and Cameron Heyward. All would be great fits in Denver and would fill huge needs for us.

yerner
01-04-2010, 09:52 AM
That Alphonso Smith pick is making me sick today. First day I've really hated it.

cousinal11
01-04-2010, 09:57 AM
There are a lot of guys we will be interested in.

Wildcard is what happens to Marshall, and what type of compensation do we get back?

I'm a fan of Derrick Morgan around #10 or 11. If he's not there it would be great to trade back and attempt to land several targets, such as Golden Tate, Mike Iupatie, and Cameron Heyward. All would be great fits in Denver and would fill huge needs for us.

Derrick Morgan would be sweet. Kind of doubt he'll be there though.

Jekyll15Hyde
01-04-2010, 12:33 PM
Let hope we win the coin flip. I thought the W16 SOS would hold up to keep us solid #10 but I was wrong.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=346961

It could be the difference in getting McClain or not.

Pony Boy
01-04-2010, 02:15 PM
I'l take Dez from OSU and stop and pick up TE Jermain Gresham from OU on the way. Who needs BMarsh and Shef?

bloodsunday
01-04-2010, 02:21 PM
it won't be QB. I can just about guarantee that.

It will most likely be on defense unless their is a bad ass OL available. Some of this depends on factors that we don't know yet (underclassmen that come out, FA, etc..).

PRBronco
01-04-2010, 02:23 PM
So when is the coin flip anyways?

OrangeShadow
01-04-2010, 03:14 PM
i dont know when it is but your avatar is ****ing hysterical!

underrated29
01-04-2010, 03:49 PM
clausen, bradford and mallett will all be top 10 picks.


With shanny going to washington, he will likely stay with campbell. That leaves:


STL
SEA
BUF

of teams who will look at QB.

STL, imo will go with berry or suh and not QB.
SEA- will take clausen
BUF- if they pick after us will get mallett, or go bradford if they move ahead of us.

We will be taking Sam bradford if Buf doesnt move infront of us. With our second 1st from marshall- i look for either dez bryant-iuputi-or cody---the last two are reaches, but we know thats what josh does. In the 2nd rd look for a wr if we dont go byrant.

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2010, 06:02 PM
clausen, bradford and mallett will all be top 10 picks.


With shanny going to washington, he will likely stay with campbell. That leaves:


STL
SEA
BUF

of teams who will look at QB.

STL, imo will go with berry or suh and not QB.
SEA- will take clausen
BUF- if they pick after us will get mallett, or go bradford if they move ahead of us.

We will be taking Sam bradford if Buf doesnt move infront of us. With our second 1st from marshall- i look for either dez bryant-iuputi-or cody---the last two are reaches, but we know thats what josh does. In the 2nd rd look for a wr if we dont go byrant.

I think that you'll see the QB's slide up the board as the draft gets closer. It always happens.

I could easily see STL taking a QB. They have gone DL twice over the past three years. They need a QB in the worst, and they need some momentum to get their fans interested in their team. I'm pretty confident that STL takes the best QB on the board. Suh is getting all the hype now, but when the draft rolls around the QB hype will be voluminous.

gtown
01-05-2010, 06:25 PM
We have so many holes that we need elite talent. If we get a first and a third for Marshall, I want to see some combo or Eric Berry, Joe Haden, and Rolando McClain with the first round picks. Use the second rounder and our two thirds on the best interior OL or DL left.

DaFace
01-06-2010, 08:29 AM
For what it's worth, this site details the picks for all teams. Pretty handy resource.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2010.php

Drek
01-06-2010, 08:45 AM
Let me spell it out for you using that fake, retard sign language reserved for people who dont understand ****.


Bowlen.Didnt.Want.To.Pay.Four.First.Round.Picks.

I really doubt that was it. They traded to get Smith because they considered him a 1st round value and the 2010 CB class is pretty weak. If Alphonso Smith was coming out in this draft class there is a good chance he's a first rounder. Joe Haden wasn't guaranteed to leave early (though he now is) and he's the only CB in this year's class who looks better than Smith did last year.

They made sure to secure ample secondary depth behind the veterans last year. Part of that was going after the best CB they could get in Smith. Assuming it frees them up to focus on the lines this year it was a good move.

People also are jumping on the bust bandwagon for Smith far too soon. He had one season in the NFL where he was low man on the experience totem pole from day one. He started to get good opportunities early in the year, then got hurt and by the time he got fully healthy Ty Law had full ownership of the nickel job and McBath had flashed enough to be a guy they wanted on the field when the scheme would allow.

He should get at least another season or two before being judged a bad choice. Its entirely possible in two or three years he'll be more successful than any of the CBs in his draft class or this year's class.

cousinal11
01-06-2010, 08:48 AM
clausen, bradford and mallett will all be top 10 picks.


With shanny going to washington, he will likely stay with campbell. That leaves:


STL
SEA
BUF

of teams who will look at QB.

STL, imo will go with berry or suh and not QB.
SEA- will take clausen
BUF- if they pick after us will get mallett, or go bradford if they move ahead of us.

We will be taking Sam bradford if Buf doesnt move infront of us. With our second 1st from marshall- i look for either dez bryant-iuputi-or cody---the last two are reaches, but we know thats what josh does. In the 2nd rd look for a wr if we dont go byrant.


I don't think Shanny will stick with Campbell. I think they take Bradford.

gtown
01-06-2010, 08:51 AM
I think both the Rams and Skins take QBs - Clausen then Bradford. Shanny won't stick with Campbell. No regimes mean new QBs.

I don't think Mallett will go top ten as some think. The guy is good, but nowhere near ready to start in the NFL. He will be an early round pick to a team in need of a QB that already has a good signal caller under center.

HorseHead
01-06-2010, 08:55 AM
How 'bout the kid from Central Michigan as a potential QB pick (LeFavour?)..he might be available...

underrated29
01-06-2010, 10:42 AM
stl has bulger---who really is a pretty good QB when he is not being knocked into concussions left and right. They need some OL help and defense help.

I think STL goes with berry. I agree Suh probably wont go #1, still top 5 though.




As for shanny, why wouldnt he stick with campbell. He is not going to get anything for him on the trade market. Washington needs OL help, they need a RB and campbell has everything shanny loves.

campbell is strong, can run, can run the bootleg, big arm (which we know shanny loves) and has been under a different coordinater every year. I think shanny wants to see what he can do with him before he goes QB. I dont think WAS takes a QB in rd 1...............Spiller-maybe? for now i think they go RB. they have portis, betts and cartwrite (is he a FB?)- mike loves RB and never can have enough of them.





If this is the case, then we might see one of the top 10s fall to us. I think we have to snag one if they do. If not then its probably going to be skelton in the 4th.



jmo.....

Carmelo15
01-06-2010, 11:28 AM
I expect Mike to draft the best OT available n give Campbell a chance in his offense

SureShot
01-06-2010, 12:04 PM
How 'bout the kid from Central Michigan as a potential QB pick (LeFavour?)..he might be available...

Yes big kid and record breaker from the MAC. Sign me up.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 01:15 PM
On another site, I have heard that the most highly rated and scouted QB for Josh McDaniels and the Broncos in this draft is John Skelton from Fordham University. This information came from a family member of John Skelton's that posted over at Footballsfuture. He sounds like a very interesting prospect. Big, Strong, mobile in the pocket, good footwork, and intelligent. Some of his weaknesses seem to be his delivery; 3/4 release that can be to low in the pros. And though he seems to be a pretty good prospect scouts are questioning why he didn't completely dominant at his level of competition. Maybe consistency issues???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3_onk6QlM

PRBronco
01-06-2010, 01:24 PM
On another site, I have heard that the most highly rated and scouted QB for Josh McDaniels and the Broncos in this draft is John Skelton from Fordham University. This information came from a family member of John Skelton's that posted over at Footballsfuture. He sounds like a very interesting prospect. Big, Strong, mobile in the pocket, good footwork, and intelligent. Some of his weaknesses seem to be his delivery; 3/4 release that can be to low in the pros. And though he seems to be a pretty good prospect scouts are questioning why he didn't completely dominant at his level of competition. Maybe consistency issues???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3_onk6QlM

Wow never heard of him, or Fordham for that matter. If we can call him "Red", I'm in.

bendog
01-06-2010, 01:30 PM
A good year of pass rushers in the first ... of course there was the J Moss year when they said that too.

It's a little hard to say what McDaniel's strategy is, beyond an arrogance and absurdly small draft board, and the 2009 draft was abysmal in terms of moreno and smith, and ayers ... maybe he'll pan out, but prolly not.

Still pressue of the other edge to go along with Doom would make the defense instantly better ... of course Ayers was supposed to do that. If Harris is ok, then they have offensive tackles. Interior linemen can be had in latter rounds, and most likely there will be short term solutions in free agency that don't cost much.

Bigdawg26
01-06-2010, 01:30 PM
Either Dez Bryant, Big Cody, McClain, Bradford, or Clausen! If not then I swear to God!

Polster60
01-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Yeah checkout some of his other highlights. He seems exactly like a McD type of QB. He reminds me a little of Big Ben. Mobile enough to evade the rush, but also a threat to extend the play or rush for yards. Only problem I have seen is that his play progression seems to be lacking. I have seen few plays were he goes through all his progressions and not just his first or second read.

LongDongJohnson
01-06-2010, 01:33 PM
For what it's worth, this site details the picks for all teams. Pretty handy resource.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2010.php

according to that we have a pick in each round?

and we also get the top pick out of all of the 8-8 teams in the 2nd? thats nice.

Slade
01-06-2010, 01:33 PM
Also, seriously make a run at Mankins!

this!

Polster60
01-06-2010, 01:40 PM
Ayers and Moreno I think provided enough plays this year to show they're capable of playing at this level. Though I question where they will be lining up Ayers next year. I would love for him to stay at LB, but his natural position of DE may be better for him. Smith I think is the player that will develop the most this offseason; A season learning the nuances of the game combined with an offseason to learn from the best in the league in Champ and Andre. I hope he improves.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 01:42 PM
I believe that Mankins will be a RFA this offseason if no CBA agreement happens. I could be wrong though.

PRBronco
01-06-2010, 01:43 PM
A good year of pass rushers in the first ... of course there was the J Moss year when they said that too.

It's a little hard to say what McDaniel's strategy is, beyond an arrogance and absurdly small draft board, and the 2009 draft was abysmal in terms of moreno and smith, and ayers ... maybe he'll pan out, but prolly not.

Still pressue of the other edge to go along with Doom would make the defense instantly better ... of course Ayers was supposed to do that. If Harris is ok, then they have offensive tackles. Interior linemen can be had in latter rounds, and most likely there will be short term solutions in free agency that don't cost much.

I still haven't forgiven him for having the audicity to compile a list of prospects that have the skillsets and characteristics he looks for in prospects, and weeding out the ones who don't. That ****ing monster. I'm just glad the intrepid journalists at the DP were able to unearth that bombshell.

But I digress. How long until draft magazines are published? I love this stuff.

meangene
01-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Ayers and Moreno I think provided enough plays this year to show they're capable of playing at this level. Though I question where they will be lining up Ayers next year. I would love for him to stay at LB, but his natural position of DE may be better for him. Smith I think is the player that will develop the most this offseason; A season learning the nuances of the game combined with an offseason to learn from the best in the league in Champ and Andre. I hope he improves.

I think Ayers is going to stay at OLB but I think they are going to have him drop some weight to improve his quickness. Doom dropped 10-12 lbs. and I think it helped him with the move to LB. I think Ayers will play at about 260 and make huge strides in his second year. I don't think Smith was ever healthy after getting hurt early in the year and I expect him to improve significantly as well. People are way to quick to judge the '09 draft IMO.

Paladin
01-06-2010, 01:54 PM
I still haven't forgiven him for having the audicity to compile a list of prospects that have the skillsets and characteristics he looks for in prospects, and weeding out the ones who don't. That ****ing monster. I'm just glad the intrepid journalists at the DP were able to unearth that bombshell.

But I digress. How long until draft magazines are published? I love this stuff.

This +1

bendog
01-06-2010, 01:59 PM
I still haven't forgiven him for having the audicity to compile a list of prospects that have the skillsets and characteristics he looks for in prospects, and weeding out the ones who don't. That ****ing monster. I'm just glad the intrepid journalists at the DP were able to unearth that bombshell.

But I digress. How long until draft magazines are published? I love this stuff.

Well, we'll see how his first draft worked out ... with three no 1 picks. (sound of pain)

There's not much till the combine and workouts.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 02:53 PM
I think Ayers is going to stay at OLB but I think they are going to have him drop some weight to improve his quickness. Doom dropped 10-12 lbs. and I think it helped him with the move to LB. I think Ayers will play at about 260 and make huge strides in his second year. I don't think Smith was ever healthy after getting hurt early in the year and I expect him to improve significantly as well. People are way to quick to judge the '09 draft IMO."

This is something that I think McDaniels and Nolan will have to evaluate alot this offseason. Do they think if Ayers were to drop that 10-15 lbs. that he would gain enough explosion to be an impact - to star OLB?? or do they think if he were to gain 10 -15 lbs. that he would be a quality staring 5 tech DE that can stop the run and provide pass rushing from the DL? It will be interesting to see what they do. I think there is more evidence to support him to drop the weight; as they often had him rushing the passer from a blitzing, standing position. But what if we were to draft Hughes from TCU and place him oppposite of Doom and move Ayers to DE. That could be very fast, large, dangerous front 7.

Eldorado
01-06-2010, 03:14 PM
As for shanny, why wouldnt he stick with campbell. He is not going to get anything for him on the trade market. Washington needs OL help, they need a RB and campbell has everything shanny loves.

campbell is strong, can run, can run the bootleg, big arm (which we know shanny loves) and has been under a different coordinater every year. I think shanny wants to see what he can do with him before he goes QB. I dont think WAS takes a QB in rd 1...............Spiller-maybe? for now i think they go RB. they have portis, betts and cartwrite (is he a FB?)- mike loves RB and never can have enough of them.





If this is the case, then we might see one of the top 10s fall to us. I think we have to snag one if they do. If not then its probably going to be skelton in the 4th.



jmo.....

Oh yeah definitely. Shanny was always going first round with the RB's.

:rollseyes:

worm
01-06-2010, 03:14 PM
How 'bout the kid from Central Michigan as a potential QB pick (LeFavour?)..he might be available...

He is playing tonight. He will light it up. He has had an awesome year.

BUT...he has worked out of a spread offense at Central Michigan.

I like him...but he isn't a 1st round pick.

meangene
01-06-2010, 04:02 PM
This is something that I think McDaniels and Nolan will have to evaluate alot this offseason. Do they think if Ayers were to drop that 10-15 lbs. that he would gain enough explosion to be an impact - to star OLB?? or do they think if he were to gain 10 -15 lbs. that he would be a quality staring 5 tech DE that can stop the run and provide pass rushing from the DL? It will be interesting to see what they do. I think there is more evidence to support him to drop the weight; as they often had him rushing the passer from a blitzing, standing position. But what if we were to draft Hughes from TCU and place him oppposite of Doom and move Ayers to DE. That could be very fast, large, dangerous front 7.

I agree that Ayers could probably play either OLB or DE. I think he stays at OLB though. I think moving him to the 5 technique starts the learning curve over again. And, this is a great draft for guys who could play DE in the 3-4. Beyond Suh and McCoy you have Price from UCLA, Jones from Syracuse, Odrick from Penn State, Oghobaase from Duke... Still waiting on Dunlap from Florida, Austin from UNC, Heyward from OSU, and Clayborn from Iowa. Williams and Cody are good NT prospects. I think we will have a good chance to get impact players for our DL in the first couple rounds.

underrated29
01-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Oh yeah definitely. Shanny was always going first round with the RB's.

:rollseyes:


Well he said if Clady wasnt there two years ago that he would have taken stewie.


And if its sooooo far fetched what positions do you think besides QB they need to improve with their top 8 or so pick?

Defense is pretty dam good.
OL- sucks pretty bad
RB-old and beat up with no depth
QB-average, with potential, kinda an unkown
TE-set
WR-set

Polster60
01-06-2010, 04:24 PM
There is alot of talent in this draft for DL and OL. I'm hoping we focus on both early and often, unless of course someone that is just to good to pass up is there for us to select. give me Mclain, Haden, Berry, or Dez Bryant if they are available with our first choice. Berry is a dream, but he could easily slide to our selection if things fall the right way.

broncsyanks
01-06-2010, 04:37 PM
now that marshall and scheffler will go to the redskins we will need to replace them. but we also need a qb cause orton is horrible

Polster60
01-06-2010, 05:00 PM
I highly doubt that Marshall leaves the team. Sure the way the season ended has left the dirtiest of dirty tastes in this particular fans mouth. Many of the players can't be happy about missing the playoffs 3 straight seasons where they could have reached the playoffs if they just find a way to win a few games at the end of the season. Right now i believe the plan for this offseason will to upgrade both the running game and the rush defense. Both phases could be blamed for the late season collapse. The team couldn't stop the run and couldn't run the ball. Which leads to failure almost every time. Give me the defense that in the first half of the season kept teams to 3rd. and long for most the game instead of the second half defense that allowed teams to convert 3rd. and 5 or shorter.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 05:08 PM
Also Scheffler dug his own hole with the broncos, according to team sources. I don't think we will spend alot of resources on that position. In this offense the TE seems to be more of a chain mover than a play maker. Though Scheffler sure could proved those type of plays every once and a while. I still don't understand the obsession with Scheffler. He had almost the same production this season as last and this season he had some major drops. Hell, even Daniel Graham was a dissappointment because of the drops.

Carmelo15
01-06-2010, 05:23 PM
There is alot of talent in this draft for DL and OL. I'm hoping we focus on both early and often, unless of course someone that is just to good to pass up is there for us to select. give me Mclain, Haden, Berry, or Dez Bryant if they are available with our first choice. Berry is a dream, but he could easily slide to our selection if things fall the right way.

I just don't see any scenario where Berry falls past the Raiders. If you do, please let me know and I will pray for that outcome.

cutthemdown
01-06-2010, 05:42 PM
lets hope the team that signs marshall has a high pick too

You assume to much. I doubt any team willing to give up a 1st and 3rd for Marshal. IMO we won't get much for him.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 05:58 PM
1. St. Louis- Bigger needs than S. Also it would be hard to justify spending that kinda of money on S.
2. Detroit- OL and DL are much higher needs.
3.Tampa Bay- Could draft Berry, though I imagine they will be looking to upgrade on offense. OL or WR.
4. Wash.- Shanny really is unpredictable here. Could go offense or defense. But I don't think shanahan will spend a top 5 signing bonus and contract on a safety. Shanahan never has drafted a safety in the first round.
5. Kansas- Their oline was worse than ours. OL looks to be the most likely position, that or WR.
6.Seattle- Offense has to be one of the worst. OL, WR, QB of the future??
7.Cleveland- Rushing defense was one of the worst. DL could use help. Questions on Offense as well. QB? WR? RB? though they seem to have found a nice RB late in the season.
8.Oakland-Defense is the one phase of this team that is pretty damned good. Their backend is good. and thier front seven is fairly strong as well. I would imagine offense would be the selection. Though this is the one team that could to take Berry. Though with Al Davis I wouldn't be surprised to see Mays selected well before Berry.
9.Buffalo- So many issues with this team. Though safety and CB seem to strong points. They had a very good Safety this season that could have won DROY. Oline would be my first guess with this team. Though it is hard to know exactly who they will draft because there is no coach and no system yet.
10. Jax- They could still use a pass rush even though they have tried pretty hard over the last few drafts to get a pass rushing DE. They have a young up and coming WR, a good RB, a decent QB, and a decent TE. OL is possible though that seems to be the area of greatest need for quite a few teams in front of them. Their selection will depend on who is still available. They did draft a pretty deccent Safety last year if I remember correctly. If they did, would they want to invest that much money into the Safety position.
11. Denver- Would we take a safety??? Both our safeties are getting to be on the wrong side of the hill. But we have promising young players in McBath, Bruton, and Barrett.

Polster60
01-06-2010, 06:10 PM
I'm guessing that the Tampa is the first obstacle to us drafting Berry.

underrated29
01-06-2010, 06:30 PM
I agree I dont see how they would let him past. Although they need help everywhere on defense. He is too good to passup

snowspot66
01-06-2010, 07:00 PM
Considering what guys like Palamaulu and Dawkins bring to their teams if they thought the kid was of their calibre I can't imagine they would even think twice about taking him. They'd just do it and thank God they had the opportunity.

Jerry Curl
01-06-2010, 07:35 PM
stl has bulger---who really is a pretty good QB when he is not being knocked into concussions left and right. They need some OL help and defense help.

I think STL goes with berry. I agree Suh probably wont go #1, still top 5 though.




As for shanny, why wouldnt he stick with campbell. He is not going to get anything for him on the trade market. Washington needs OL help, they need a RB and campbell has everything shanny loves.

campbell is strong, can run, can run the bootleg, big arm (which we know shanny loves) and has been under a different coordinater every year. I think shanny wants to see what he can do with him before he goes QB. I dont think WAS takes a QB in rd 1...............Spiller-maybe? for now i think they go RB. they have portis, betts and cartwrite (is he a FB?)- mike loves RB and never can have enough of them.





If this is the case, then we might see one of the top 10s fall to us. I think we have to snag one if they do. If not then its probably going to be skelton in the 4th.



jmo.....
Campbell is an UFA this year...

DBroncos4life
01-06-2010, 08:04 PM
Rolando McClain makes the most sense if he is there. It's a position where I think you get the most instant impact. It depends on Marshall. If we don't resign him I would like to see us walk out of the first round with Bryant or Brandon LaFell. If we can keep Marshall and don't go McClain in the first round I hope Brandon Spikes falls to us in the second round. I didn't like the eye thing he pulled but he has talent and upside.