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ZONA
12-30-2009, 09:48 PM
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1. Mike Iupti

College: Idaho
Height/Weight: 6-5, 325

Iupti played as a true freshman in 2006. He will be the starting left guard for the third year in 2009. He is an impact player for the Vandals and is strong and athletic, with long arms and good feet. He was a second-team All-WAC player in 2008, who has a chance to be a good NFL player.


2. Jon Asamoah

College: Illinois
Height/Weight: 6-3, 305

Asamoah will be a three-year starter who played as a true freshman in 2006. He is strong at the point of attack, but is a better run blocker than pass blocker. He is smart and has good athletic ability.


3. Zane Beadles

College: Utah
Height/Weight: 6-4, 305

Beadles is a fifth-year player who has started at left guard and left tackle. He looks a lot like Jordan Gross, a former Ute who is now with Carolina. His best position in the NFL is guard. He is smart and strong, from a very athletic family. He was selected first-team All-Mountain West in 2008. He lacks the quickness to play left tackle in the NFL.


4. Mike Johnson

College: Alabama
Height/Weight: 6-5, 305

Johnson will be a three-year starter at Alabama. He has started at both tackle and guard. He is strong, smart and very competitive. He does not have great speed. He was second-team All-SEC in 2008.


5. Mitch Petrus

College: Arkansas
Height/Weight: 6-3, 310

Petrus was ineligble in 2008 after making second-team All-SEC in 2007. He was a walk-on who played tight end and fullback as a true freshman. He was a good athlete as an All-State high school basketball player and he runs well.


6. Vladimir Ducasse

College: Massachussets
Height/Weight: 6-5, 330

Ducasse moved to the United States from Haiti in 2002. He was a very good high school basketball player and track star in shot put and discus. He played at U-Mass as a true freshman, starting 24 games at left tackle in 2007 and 2008. He is very strong and is an outstanding worker. He is a first-team All-Colonial Conference player in 2008.


7. Brandon Carter

College: Texas Tech
Height/Weight: 6-5, 340

Carter is a fifth-year player who has started the past two years. He was named honorable mention All-Conference in 2008. He has a huge frame and plays with face paint during games. He has good feet for a man his size and also has very long arms. He played defensive line in high school. He has average speed for the position (5.4 in the 40).


8. Shawn Lauvao

College: Arizona State
Height/Weight: 6-2, 305

Lauvao is a fifth-year player who played on his high school team in Hawaii while in the eighth grade. He has very good strength and is a hard worker. He is a compact player, who will be a three-year starter. He was honorable mention All-Pac 10 in 2008.


9. Shelley Smith

College: Colorado State
Height/Weight: 6-3, 300

Smith is a fifth-year player who has started the past two years at guard. He was named second-team All-Mountain West in 2008. He is strong with good feet and speed and can both pull and lead.


10. Sergio Render

College: Virginia Tech
Height/Weight: 6-3, 305

Render will be a four-year starter at guard. He is a better run blocker than pass blocker. He is strong and was selected second-team All-ACC in 2007 and 2008.


11. Reggie Stephens

College: Iowa State
Height/Weight: 6-3, 330

Stephens is a fifth-year player who will start 40-plus college games. He was an honorable mention All-Big 12 performer in 2008. He is very strong and smart, but lacks good speed. He moves his feet ok, but he is a zone blocker.


12. Chet Teofilo

College: California
Height/Weight: 6-3, 325

Teofilo is a sixth-year player who played defensive line his first two years at California. He started eight games at tackle in 2008, before an ankle injury ended his season. His best NFL position is at guard. He is very strong and can pass protect.

Popps
12-30-2009, 09:53 PM
#1 is the only one I've read much about. #6 sounds interesting, though. 6'5", 330 and he played HOOPS! Jeesh.

Sounds like a great athlete. Wonder what the knock on him is?

bpc
12-30-2009, 09:59 PM
Two options:

1. Logan Mankins is a FA from NE. He's currently playing left guard for the Patriots, was drafted in the 1st round as a tackle out of Fresno State. I think that could be one area where we invest money. He's a good fit, physical, already knows the system.

2. Charles Brown, OT, from USC: I think he's a stout, strong, big, athletic player who could start day 1 at LG for us, hold the point, drive players off the LOS. He also is adept at pulling on traps and counter tre's, things I've noticed McD likes to run. He's also currently playing LT for USC. I think if McD invests in offensive linemen, they would be player who can play a bunch of positions. I could see Brown playing four spots on the OL. He's 6'6", 295 but he could easily put on weight.

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Requiem
12-30-2009, 10:00 PM
Playing for Massachussets.

bpc
12-30-2009, 10:04 PM
Playing for Massachussets.

I know who you are talking about. I haven't been able to see any film on him but i hear he is a beast. Vladimir Ducasse.

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Requiem
12-30-2009, 10:04 PM
The first two guys are my favorites. Didn't get to see much of Illinois this year, but I think Jon has been a RG for them most of his career, but he is superb as a pass blocker and run blocker.

Requiem
12-30-2009, 10:06 PM
I've heard you talking up Charles Brown a lot, but I have read some places questioning his physicality and ability to hold his own at the POA in the NFL. You're a former OL, and a better judge of talent than me by far in that regard. He sounds like a versatile player, and from the USC games I've seen (only a couple) has looked pretty polished. I think this is a pretty good year to be looking for more OL help.

Ratboy
12-30-2009, 10:11 PM
Two options:

1. Logan Mankins is a FA from NE. He's currently playing left guard for the Patriots, was drafted in the 1st round as a tackle out of Fresno State. I think that could be one area where we invest money. He's a good fit, physical, already knows the system.

I would love to get Logan Mankins. We really need to improve on our offensive line. Speaking of Patriots, I would not be surprised if we went after a few of them. Vince Wilfork is also a free agent, and we really need a NT.

bpc
12-30-2009, 10:20 PM
I think the Patriots are going to let Mankins go before Wilfork. ON a NT note, I would love him but I see Aubrayo Franklin as a more realistic option in FA. He's one of Nolan's former guys who has followed him from Baltimore to SF. I could see us bringing him to Denver to pair up with Fields.

On the OG front, i wouldn't mind taking a chance on Brown. He's young, and needs to add some size but i've seen enough of him to think that he could be a great fit on our offensive line. He has power already, even though he'll continue to get stronger. His pass blocking is ready right now for the NFL game, even at OG. Run blocking will take some time but i've seen him drive his guys off the ball, more often than not. I project him to start at OG for us, but he would be nice insurance should Harris continue to have back issues. He's a two fold player.

Of all the guys i've seen, and my film selection has been much more limited than years past, he's been the best.

Ratboy
12-30-2009, 10:25 PM
We also need a center. /sigh

bpc
12-30-2009, 10:37 PM
Center is the wildcard here.

I could easily see us going OT/OG type in round 1-3.

I imagine a center would be coming round 4-7.

strafen
12-30-2009, 10:47 PM
#1 is the only one I've read much about. #6 sounds interesting, though. 6'5", 330 and he played HOOPS! Jeesh.

Sounds like a great athlete. Wonder what the knock on him is? That's material for you to find out.
Maybe he had trouble learning the playbook back in pop warner, you know...
I'm sure you could start a conspiracy thread about that one too! ^5

strafen
12-30-2009, 10:49 PM
Lupti is probably the one everyone is raving about.
He and Brandon Carter would fit what Mcdaniels' looking for. Both got good size and weight, yet athleticism...

PRBronco
12-30-2009, 11:17 PM
Logan Mankins. And by draft I mean give infinity dollars to.

Thanks for the list though, I'm gonna get my research on. Are there any decent centers in the draft?

Popps
12-30-2009, 11:27 PM
That's material for you to find out.
Maybe he had trouble learning the playbook back in pop warner, you know...
I'm sure you could start a conspiracy thread about that one too! ^5

Still bitter about Hillis fail on 3rd down Sunday, huh?

At least Moreno was there to clean up for him.

strafen
12-30-2009, 11:32 PM
Still bitter about Hillis fail on 3rd down Sunday, huh?

At least Moreno was there to clean up for him.Me, mad?
We lost the game, did we not?
Thought so.... 9 for 18 yards? ROFL!

Broncoman13
12-31-2009, 12:15 AM
Mike Iputi is a friggin beast. He'll be a GREAT OG in this league for many years to come. Dude can really move and has great strength to solidify an interior line. If you're looking for a Guard that can do it all, look no further. I imagine he'll be picked around #20-25 come April.

bap454
12-31-2009, 01:07 AM
Mike Iputi is a friggin beast. He'll be a GREAT OG in this league for many years to come. Dude can really move and has great strength to solidify an interior line. If you're looking for a Guard that can do it all, look no further. I imagine he'll be picked around #20-25 come April.

Thats what scares me with Iputi. He is definately on the hype wagon right now. No chance hes there in the second round for us.

ZONA
12-31-2009, 01:08 AM
We also need a center. /sigh

I posted something before about JD Walton. I like his size and smarts at Center but the book on him is that he's a genuine hard nosed mauler who desperately wants to get in your head or rip it off, which ever comes first. He's also played alot of shotgun so he could be right at home in our offense. He's projected to be a 3rd rounder.

J.D. Walton

College: Baylor
Height/Weight: 6-2, 303


Pass blocking: Quick set after the snap, getting hands into the tackle's jersey. Works hard to keep contact with nose tackle, maintaining his anchor against bigger, stronger defenders. Keeps his feet moving and arms punching to assist on double-teams. Adept on shotgun (which Baylor uses often) and direct snaps. Will lean into his man, making him lose his balance and body control on occasion.

Run blocking: Short arms make it difficult to sustain against defensive tackles with above-average length. Strong on double-teams, getting leverage to maintain big hole/passing lane inside. Works hard throughout the play, and agitates his defender even when on the ground. Gets low in goal-line and short-yardage situations to take out his man.

Pulling/trapping: Best in close quarters. Adequate footwork to get the correct angles when on the move. Not overly quick or smooth as a runner, his feet get caught up in trash inside. Lacks agility to adjust to oncoming defenders, although he manages to stop them, anyway, using strength and will.

Initial Quickness: Good pop off the snap when run blocking and in pass pro, though Baylor doesn't drive block very often. Adjusts to late line shifts, uses angles to his advantage. Must improve his ability to cut block on quick throws.

Downfield: Not especially agile at the second level. Effective at taking out inside-out defenders, however, by using any available part of his body. Will usually find a second man after coming off a double but won't dominate him. Plays through the whistle, and will take out a man if he's not playing aware.

Intangibles: Typical mauler inside, giving everything he has on every play. Leader of the offensive line. Just the type of tough, intelligent, durable pivot man NFL teams like.

NFL Comparison: Jake Grove, Miami Dolphins

meangene
12-31-2009, 03:22 AM
I posted something before about JD Walton. I like his size and smarts at Center but the book on him is that he's a genuine hard nosed mauler who desperately wants to get in your head or rip it off, which ever comes first. He's also played alot of shotgun so he could be right at home in our offense. He's projected to be a 3rd rounder.

J.D. Walton

College: Baylor
Height/Weight: 6-2, 303


Pass blocking: Quick set after the snap, getting hands into the tackle's jersey. Works hard to keep contact with nose tackle, maintaining his anchor against bigger, stronger defenders. Keeps his feet moving and arms punching to assist on double-teams. Adept on shotgun (which Baylor uses often) and direct snaps. Will lean into his man, making him lose his balance and body control on occasion.

Run blocking: Short arms make it difficult to sustain against defensive tackles with above-average length. Strong on double-teams, getting leverage to maintain big hole/passing lane inside. Works hard throughout the play, and agitates his defender even when on the ground. Gets low in goal-line and short-yardage situations to take out his man.

Pulling/trapping: Best in close quarters. Adequate footwork to get the correct angles when on the move. Not overly quick or smooth as a runner, his feet get caught up in trash inside. Lacks agility to adjust to oncoming defenders, although he manages to stop them, anyway, using strength and will.

Initial Quickness: Good pop off the snap when run blocking and in pass pro, though Baylor doesn't drive block very often. Adjusts to late line shifts, uses angles to his advantage. Must improve his ability to cut block on quick throws.

Downfield: Not especially agile at the second level. Effective at taking out inside-out defenders, however, by using any available part of his body. Will usually find a second man after coming off a double but won't dominate him. Plays through the whistle, and will take out a man if he's not playing aware.

Intangibles: Typical mauler inside, giving everything he has on every play. Leader of the offensive line. Just the type of tough, intelligent, durable pivot man NFL teams like.

NFL Comparison: Jake Grove, Miami Dolphins

Eric Olsen from Notre Dame is the same kind of nasty mauler type. He has also played some guard. He could be a later round steal.

meangene
12-31-2009, 03:28 AM
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oubronco
12-31-2009, 06:24 AM
That's material for you to find out.
Maybe he had trouble learning the playbook back in pop warner, you know...
I'm sure you could start a conspiracy thread about that one too! ^5

:~ohyah!:

Beantown Bronco
12-31-2009, 06:35 AM
I'd be shocked if Mankins doesn't get the high tender, which means we'd have to give him a ridiculous contract that the Pats wouldn't match AND we'd have to give them a first and third for him.

I just don't see that happening.

meangene
12-31-2009, 06:43 AM
I'd be shocked if Mankins doesn't get the high tender, which means we'd have to give him a ridiculous contract that the Pats wouldn't match AND we'd have to give them a first and third for him.

I just don't see that happening.

I dunno. I think they may have other priorities with Wilfork and needing to do some re-tooling at a few positions. I could see them putting a high tender offer on him but then letting him go in a trade like with Cassell. I'd give up the money and a second roundr to secure him. Evans from NO is another possibility.

Ray Finkle
12-31-2009, 06:53 AM
I like Iupti because he is an a-hole....this line needs a-holes.....

elsid13
12-31-2009, 07:02 AM
I dunno. I think they may have other priorities with Wilfork and needing to do some re-tooling at a few positions. I could see them putting a high tender offer on him but then letting him go in a trade like with Cassell. I'd give up the money and a second roundr to secure him. Evans from NO is another possibility.

They aren't going to let their best young offense linemen go. This isn't like Cassell situation where they had a better player returning from injury waiting to be reinserted into the line-up. People need to give up on Mankin dream

TonyR
12-31-2009, 07:40 AM
I'd be shocked if Mankins doesn't get the high tender, which means we'd have to give him a ridiculous contract that the Pats wouldn't match AND we'd have to give them a first and third for him.

I just don't see that happening.

You beat me to it. People need to realize he's an RFA and won't be easy to get. Very doubtful he goes anywhere.

meangene
12-31-2009, 08:08 AM
They aren't going to let their best young offense linemen go. This isn't like Cassell situation where they had a better player returning from injury waiting to be reinserted into the line-up. People need to give up on Mankin dream

They did draft a couple of interior offensive linemen last year. You don't know what their thinking will be with him. They are an aging team looking to re-tool their defense and re-sign Wilfork. I would consider Mankins a possibility at this point.

_Oro_
12-31-2009, 08:23 AM
Every year during the offseason people drool over other teams young studs. And every year it's the same story, come free agency all that's left is a couple ridiculously high priced guys, some guys past their prime, and some mediocre guys.

Don't get your hopes up on Mankins.

Broncos_OTM
12-31-2009, 08:48 AM
Center is the wildcard here.

I could easily see us going OT/OG type in round 1-3.

I imagine a center would be coming round 4-7.

That is the best idea. Get a starting gaurd with the ability to man the tackle spot with out a decrease in quality. I also think it makes more sense since MCD likes his guys to be versitle and play multple positions if possible.

Broncos_OTM
12-31-2009, 08:53 AM
They aren't going to let their best young offense linemen go. This isn't like Cassell situation where they had a better player returning from injury waiting to be reinserted into the line-up. People need to give up on Mankin dream
You could argue that they re-signed Stephen Neal. They also have invested at the spot last year. It is very likely that they could let him go. I would be very happy if Mankin would sign here but i think there are some quailty G's in this draft. My real true worry is C. I dont think Casey has it anymore and i dont see any guys this year be it from the draft or FA that we could plug right in and start.

illbroncsfn
12-31-2009, 10:19 AM
Pass on Asamoa from Illinois. He was the best lineman this year for the Illini,-not saying much but he has never been a true difference maker and not worthy of the #2 spot on this list IMHO.

For those that watched Iupati yesterday you know he would look outstanding in Blue and Orange...

DenverBrit
12-31-2009, 10:43 AM
Me, mad?
We lost the game, did we not?
Thought so.... 9 for 18 yards? ROFL!

Not sure why you think that's funny, but you've identified the real problem: the interior of the O line.

Even the 'Mighty' Hillis couldn't make a yard behind that O line.

Lolad
12-31-2009, 10:51 AM
Thats what scares me with Iputi. He is definately on the hype wagon right now. No chance hes there in the second round for us.

that other 1st rd pick would be ideal for us to have right about now

Requiem
12-31-2009, 11:00 AM
I'd prefer Evans to Mankins because he's a better player, but Mankins knows what McDaniels does. Either way, I doubt we have a chance at either.

gunns
12-31-2009, 11:34 AM
I think the Patriots are going to let Mankins go before Wilfork. ON a NT note, I would love him but I see Aubrayo Franklin as a more realistic option in FA. He's one of Nolan's former guys who has followed him from Baltimore to SF. I could see us bringing him to Denver to pair up with Fields.

On the OG front, i wouldn't mind taking a chance on Brown. He's young, and needs to add some size but i've seen enough of him to think that he could be a great fit on our offensive line. He has power already, even though he'll continue to get stronger. His pass blocking is ready right now for the NFL game, even at OG. Run blocking will take some time but i've seen him drive his guys off the ball, more often than not. I project him to start at OG for us, but he would be nice insurance should Harris continue to have back issues. He's a two fold player.

Of all the guys i've seen, and my film selection has been much more limited than years past, he's been the best.

I agree Pats would probably give up Mankins first as their D needs definite work. I'd love to see us pick up Mankins. As far as Franklin I think SF may put the franchise tag on him.

As far as the draft I've got a definite case of tunnel vision and fantasies about a certain DT from Nebraska. I'm trying to think what I wouldn't give up for that.

Requiem
12-31-2009, 11:51 AM
Well, stop thinking about it. We do not have a chance at Suh.

Broncoman13
12-31-2009, 12:25 PM
Not sure why you think that's funny, but you've identified the real problem: the interior of the O line.

Even the 'Mighty' Hillis couldn't make a yard behind that O line.

OL isn't the main problem. Orton is! No threat of downfield passing or the QB running. fix the QB fix the offense!

TonyR
12-31-2009, 01:10 PM
OL isn't the main problem. Orton is! No threat of downfield passing or the QB running. fix the QB fix the offense!

Okay, let's pretend you're right.

Can you then explain why the Chicago Bears went from 104.6 rush yards per game last season to 89.5 rush yards per game this season? You'd think a better QB would improve the rushing attack, no? Or is the supposedly upgraded O-line partly to blame?

I agree that Orton is a factor. But to pretend thar our O-line isn't a major factor is disingenuous.

Cool Breeze
12-31-2009, 01:33 PM
I know who you are talking about. I haven't been able to see any film on him but i hear he is a beast. Vladimir Ducasse.

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Damn - he is a big boy!

Cool Breeze
12-31-2009, 01:36 PM
that other 1st rd pick would be ideal for us to have right about now

So would John Elway. Reality sucks huh

PRBronco
12-31-2009, 01:59 PM
They aren't going to let their best young offense linemen go. This isn't like Cassell situation where they had a better player returning from injury waiting to be reinserted into the line-up. People need to give up on Mankin dream

I think it's time to introduce you to the fine art of tampering! :thumbs:

bpc
12-31-2009, 02:01 PM
Just watched the 1st quarter of Idaho's offense in the Humanitarian Bowl, first time i'm got to see Iupati all year and I still have to go over the rest of the film... THE KID IS NOT DISAPPOINTING. The guy is thick as can be. Great size at 6'6", 330. Strong as an ox and he's like a moving wall. Great use of hands when he punches. Great ability to block on the run. Idaho runs a lot of traps, guard led bootlegs, and powers. All staples of a physical offense. Pad level is a tad high, he'll have to work on that. Great feet for a guard. I imagine he could line up at LG, RG or RT easily.

He's a great prospect. I would definately be okay adding a player of his calibur to this line.


I'm torn now. I was thinking there were better choices on the OLine out there.... might not be. He reminds me talent-wise of a Shawn Andrews type. Big, thick bodied mauler.

Bronco Warrior
12-31-2009, 02:44 PM
Beadles is a great choice fronm Utah. I've seen him play live and he is tough strong and veritile..has played center also! He was a stud on a suprisingly dominant Utah Line..see the Poinsettia bowl vs Cal! BYU has a couple of Junior Guards but I think they stay at school! They run a pro offense and dominate at both Run and Pass blocking.

Bronco Warrior
12-31-2009, 02:50 PM
As for Mankins.. He's an under-achieving Holding POS! Hochstien is better for us than that turd! As for Wilfork, Noln isn't high on fat whales that just flop around in the middle and expect the runner to come to him! Look for Nolan to try to get a mobile muscle brute like Fields with a brain and something almost resembling a waist line!

DenverBrit
12-31-2009, 04:00 PM
OL isn't the main problem. Orton is! No threat of downfield passing or the QB running. fix the QB fix the offense!

So that's why they can't run for 1 yard on 3rd down, it's the QB. Ok.

bpc
12-31-2009, 04:03 PM
So that's why they can't run for 1 yard on 3rd down, it's the QB. Ok.

I do think a big factor affecting our run game is that defenses don't have to worry about the field being stretched with our passing game. We're getting a crapload of defenders crowding the LOS, and numerous blitzes are being called to clog passing and running lanes.

A QB who could keep a defense honest would help us out tremendously. Yes, there are issues within our interior OLine but it's a two-fold issue.

Defenses flat out don't respect Orton... and he hasn't given them any reason to.

DenverBrit
12-31-2009, 04:06 PM
I do think a big factor affecting our run game is that defenses don't have to worry about the field being stretched with our passing game. We're getting a crapload of defenders crowding the LOS, and numerous blitzes are being called to clog passing and running lanes.

A QB who could keep a defense honest would help us out tremendously. Yes, there are issues within our interior OLine but it's a two-fold issue.

Defenses flat out don't respect Orton... and he hasn't given them any reason to.

I agree the lack of deep threat is an issue, but on third and one, the O line has been miserable.

Got to be able to rush for 1 yard, even when they know it's coming. :sunshine: