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cutthemdown
12-17-2009, 09:58 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/17/gaza.gender.id/index.html

Gaza City (CNN) -- Two Palestinian teenagers stroll amid the mounds of rubble left by last year's Israeli military offensive, listening to the tinny beat of a Turkish pop song playing on a cell phone.

Nadir Mohammed Saleh and Ahmed Fayiz Abed Rabo are cousins and next-door neighbors. With their gelled hair, buttoned-down shirts and jeans, they look much like any other 16-year-old Palestinian boy. But looks, Ahmed says, can be deceiving.

"Only my appearance, my haircut and clothing, makes me look like a boy," Ahmed says, gesturing with his hands across his face. "Inside, I am like a female. I am a girl."

Until last summer, both Nadir and Ahmed were -- for all intents and purposes -- girls. They wore female headscarves, attended girls' school and even answered to the female first names Navin and Ola.

Both Nadir and Ahmed were born with a rare birth defect called male pseudohermaphrodism.

Deficiency of the hormone 17-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17-B-HSD) during pregnancy left their male reproductive organs deformed and buried deep within their abdomens.

At birth, doctors identified Nadir and Ahmed as girls, because they appeared to have female genitalia.

As a result, they spent the first 16 years of their lives dressing and acting like girls. It was a role that grew increasingly difficult to play, as they hit puberty and their bodies began generating testosterone, resulting in facial hair and increasingly masculine features.

"They used to travel by car to girls' school and back," says Nadir's father Mohammed Sadih Ahmed Saleh. "Because of their facial hair, it was difficult for them to go out into the street. Psychologically they were distressed."

Finally, on June 22, with the support of their families, both Nadir and Ahmed transformed themselves into boys.
Video: Gaza conflict of gender

"They transferred on the same day," Saleh says. "Clothing, they switched to the other [boys'] school on the same day. They cut their hair on the same day. Both of them helped each other get through this crisis."

There are an unusually high number of male pseudohermaphrodite births in the Gaza neighborhood of Jabalya, where Nadir and Ahmed live.

Dr. Jehad Abudaia, a Canadian-Palestinian pediatrician and urologist practicing in Gaza, says he has diagnosed nearly 80 cases like Nadir's and Ahmed's in the last seven years.

"It is astonishing that we have [so] many cases with this defect, which is very rare all over the world," Abudaia says. He attributes the high frequency of this birth defect to "consanguinity," or in-breeding.

"If you want to go to the root of the problem, this problem runs in families in the genes." Abudaia says. "They want to get married to cousins... they don't go to another family. This is a problem."

In Western, more developed countries, doctors typically identify and then operate to correct disorders of sex differentiation at birth. But in war-torn Gaza, which has a lower standard of medical care, the birth defect can go undetected for years.

"Some of them unfortunately will be discovered late, when they are more than 14 years [old]. When they have been living as a female and they don't have menstruation, then they will go to the gynecologist," Abudaia says.

Abudaia's first advice to patients with the disorder is to immediately adopt male clothing and hair cuts, and then to plan for a sex-change operation.

This unusual ritual has been performed several times in the extended family of Nadir and Ahmed, where sex differentiation is a recurring disorder.

Nadir's 21-year-old brother Midyam and his 32-year-old cousin Ameen Abd Hamed share the same condition of male pseudohermaphrodism. As adolescents, they too underwent the gender identity transformation process the family refers to as "the transfer."

mhgaffney
12-18-2009, 03:30 PM
No one's touching this one with a 20 foot pole.

cutthemdown
12-18-2009, 03:39 PM
It was a story broke by a major news outlet. Not like I made it up. If people don't find it interesting that's fine with me. I had no idea Palestinians liked to marry there cousins. Found it surprising and more then a little disturbing.

cutthemdown
12-18-2009, 03:41 PM
So Gaff when did you undergo your transfer. :)

Dudeskey
12-18-2009, 07:34 PM
Does that mean they listen to a lot of country music?

watermock
12-18-2009, 08:18 PM
In all fairness, it is a prison.

they should least annex it egypt temporarily.

While Obama and Gore are lathering themselves, the NWO has other priorities.

Gaff is right, it is a ghetto.

BTW Gaff, IMO, your right and wrong on alot of things.

I try to re-examine things as evidence becomes more clear.

They will try to regulate the internet soon.

All print and video is controlled now.

watermock
12-18-2009, 08:28 PM
No one's touching this one with a 20 foot pole.

But you want to, don't ya.

Your just afraid to.

I'll touch it.

Ask Mr. President!

He's got his wife in a fur coat and dealng with putin and the chiese for nothing.


What is 100 billion when we cut medicare 500 billion

mhgaffney
12-18-2009, 08:57 PM
I get emails every day from peace activists in Gaza, updates about the latest horrible things happening to the Paklestinians.

You A-holes don't have clue of what you speak.

You blame the victims because you are not men enough to face the truth.

You spew macho bull**** -- when in fact you are cowards.

Lame almost to a man.

cutthemdown
12-18-2009, 09:02 PM
It has nothing to do with Israelis or them being in a prison. This just sheds light on a weird part of Palestinian culture. They like to inbreed. I never knew that before so I found it interesting. You have to admit Gaff its weird they have bred themselves into having an abnormally high amount of men born without there junk.

Now if you could prove to me the jews were responsible for men having to be born without there man jewels, then I will go anti-jew with you.

Explain to me why they have babies with family members? Also had you ever heard of this before?

mhgaffney
12-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Cut,

All kinds of articles about all kinds of things appear in the media. Much of it is just twaddle. Journalists crank out endless stories merely to justify their existence.

Saying something is so don't make it true. You ought to know this by now.

You should be more discriminating. If someone posted an article about Americans inbreeding you would be pretty skeptical. Are you less skeptical in this case because of your bias against Arabs?

barryr
12-19-2009, 11:16 AM
The amazing thing is bozos like to go after Israel about the Palestinians, but the other ME countries don't care for or care about the Palestinians since they ran them out of their own countries. Terror organizations have no problems hiding out among the Palestinians since they couldn't care less if Israel kills them while going after the terrorists.

mhgaffney
12-19-2009, 02:53 PM
Another Barry-ism.

Meanwhile (unknown to Barry), even as we speak the Israeli Mossad eavesdrops on every US political leader -- routinely listens to conversations at the White House, at the UN, at the Pentagon, etc...

Zionist spies are EVERYWHERE.

You don't believe it? You think I'm paranoid? That I made this up?

Check out James Bamford's shocking new book THE SHADOW FACTORY --released last February.

For those who never buy/read books -- you can get the gist of it by reading my review, here:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/19579

cutthemdown
12-19-2009, 03:47 PM
Cut,

All kinds of articles about all kinds of things appear in the media. Much of it is just twaddle. Journalists crank out endless stories merely to justify their existence.

Saying something is so don't make it true. You ought to know this by now.

You should be more discriminating. If someone posted an article about Americans inbreeding you would be pretty skeptical. Are you less skeptical in this case because of your bias against Arabs?

So unless its from information clearing house we should talk it with a grain of salt.

mhgaffney
12-19-2009, 07:44 PM
So what's your problem with info clearinghouse?

The fact it is NOT corporate owned and controlled?

The fact that it posts articles critical of the US war machine?

The fact that it posts articles critical of Zionism?

The fact it opposes US imperialism?

No wonder you oppose it -- given that you are an apologist for/supporter of US imperialism.

Requiem
12-21-2009, 10:01 AM
The Palestinians being born with birth defects is probably due to things like rancid water supply and poor living environments that they have had to endure through occupation rather than through incest. We can talk about inbreedining and Darwinian Fitness if you would like though.