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Denver724
12-13-2009, 01:54 PM
An early missed FG helped make that decision.

Still not a good decision.. You go for the extra point and play to tie IF they make a FG.

oubronco
12-13-2009, 01:54 PM
Pick 6 Oskieee

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 01:54 PM
D wearing down?

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
man now we cant stop the 32nd rushing attack from running

OBF1
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
stream went down for me

Natedog24
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Figures

OrangeShadow
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
**** now the link goes down!

Harvitz81
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
God Damnit!!! **** that is the game right there

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
these missed tackles are killin us!!

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Unbelievable.

oubronco
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
well thats it boys

Denver724
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Un****ing real. We had him.

frerottenextelway
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Well, we had our chances. Just missed way too many of them.

Goobzilla
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
D wearing down?

They're done, Mike Hart just tore them up for 1st & Goal.

phillybroncosnut
12-13-2009, 01:56 PM
The 2 pt. decision was piss poor. I don't understand why.

are you serious?

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 01:56 PM
Man if we lose this and Dallas wins I'm gonna be piiiiissed.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 01:56 PM
Moreno is 23 carries for 63 yards and 0-4 in short yardage/goal line/first down conversions. And yet Hillis was not allowed to contribute with scripted plays called his way. What an injustice and epic fail on McDaniel's today.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 01:56 PM
MCD's missing piece is an above average QB unfortunately. We should have won this game with 3 TO's against Manning. Our below average QB can't drive this offense to top-10 production.

cabronco
12-13-2009, 01:57 PM
Hart runs better than Moreno

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 01:57 PM
Holy crap, Fox just switched to the bears game, am i tripping out, or is Cutler sporting a neckbeard!! LMMFAO!

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 01:57 PM
man this is a dissapointing game.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 01:57 PM
I'm ****ing proud of this team either way.

Give Marshall the record!!

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Another piss poor game for MCD in the play calling dept.

TonyR
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
And yet Hillis was not allowed to contribute with scripted plays called his way.

Do you know what a scripted play is?

MplsBronco
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
MCD's missing piece is an above average QB unfortunately. We should have won this game with 3 TO's against Manning. Our below average QB can't drive this offense to top-10 production.

BS, what I saw was some terribly conservative playcalling. I don't get it.

Denver724
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Well, we had our chances. Just missed way too many of them.

Horrible play calling in my opinion, but we really missed Buck. Moreno is not ready to be our Workhorse.

Don Flamenco
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Still not a good decision.. You go for the extra point and play to tie IF they make a FG.

Yep, only go for two when you need to

Harvitz81
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Come on D!! Stop them here!! Maybe, just maybe give us a chance

NYBronco
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Still not a good decision.. You go for the extra point and play to tie IF they make a FG.

Tough call, I didn't have a problem with it. I expected our D to stop them.

Goobzilla
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
I hope everyone on the team has a hard time sleeping tonight thinking about missed opportunities and the one that got away.

OrangeShadow
12-13-2009, 01:58 PM
well the streams back

oubronco
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Another piss poor game for MCD in the play calling dept.

I agree

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
shut her down

Harvitz81
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Well that sucks...

RHANDZ
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Stick a fork in it

Conklin
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
**** clark!

oubronco
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Ballgame

Denver724
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
McD really had a part in losing this game today. I thought there were many questionable decisions.

spdirty
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
just get 15 the record now.

Goobzilla
12-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Oh well, let's get Marshall that record at least.

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
damn it.

we better blow the freaking raiders out

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Do you know what a scripted play is?


The one that goes 1 ****ing yard..

cabronco
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Moreno is 23 carries for 63 yards and 0-4 in short yardage/goal line/first down conversions. And yet Hillis was not allowed to contribute with scripted plays called his way. What an injustice and epic fail on McDaniel's today.

I believe it was a big fail, not to give Hillis carries when Moreno's getting stuffed, or tripping over himself and injured, but still no carries for a player like Hillis with fresh legs.

Conklin
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
lets at least get marshal the record, he deserves it!

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
well thats it boys

Well at least we didn't get blown out! If thats any consolation. Great job Defense.

Harvitz81
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Woodyard has let Clark own him all day. WTF didn't we cover the only receiver in the game on the play???

Denver724
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Tough call, I didn't have a problem with it. I expected our D to stop them.

Really a mute point now. Our D played well. The run game sucked, which is why we lost the game.

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
i agree.

throw it to brandon please just once more

go_broncos
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
we had this game..we are losing due to Playcalling

DHallblows
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
I don't know if a single person didn't see that play-action coming. Jesus Christ

RHANDZ
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Moreno with a run up the middle for no yards....

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
well, we could have quit after 14-0 but we didn't I'm proud of them

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Disappointing... but hell, we were in it till the end and could have definitely won. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world and ****ing proud of them.

TonyR
12-13-2009, 02:00 PM
That 3rd and 10 they converted on this drive killed us. A Smith got beat and then missed the tackle.

frerottenextelway
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Lots of Good, Bad, and Ugly in this game. Hope we meet them again this season.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
You don't let opportunities get away against a great team like the Colts and expect to win...

HEAV
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
We still have a good team. Last year this game would be in the 50's.

Still need to play better to win. But with some talent additions the Broncos are going to be a franchise to fear next year.

Kid A
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
well, let's at least get Marshall the outright record here.

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
throw marshall a few more to nail that record down..

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
I think we were the better team which is nice to know going into the playoffs if we see them again.

DHallblows
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Let's get Brandon a record now...

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:01 PM
BS, what I saw was some terribly conservative playcalling. I don't get it.

so at what point do you see that our play calling is adjusted to Orton's limitations? Seriously, our offense is so formulaic its sad. A better QB wins this game. 3 TO's from Peyton Manning? Are you kidding me? Our Defense should win the Nobel Prize.

OrangeShadow
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
yeah get some good out of this

Drunk Monkey
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Well, at least the Bears lost

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
atleast our trusty bears lost again.

thanks cuddles

MABroncoFan
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Well, I feel a lot better about this game now than a few minutes into the 2nd quarter anyway. We definitely had our chances to get over the hump.

Goobzilla
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Orton INT in endzone
Missed FG

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda. This is the kind of game that tears your guts out.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
a little too late McD

Natedog24
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Nice throw Orton

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
WTF orton?

DHallblows
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
GOD Orton. just make 4 yard pass

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
throw it for 1 freaking yard to marshall. i dont care.

get him the record!!

cabronco
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Dam you throw an ugly ball sometimes Orton

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:02 PM
and the bears lose

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Come on, Bmarsh!

RHANDZ
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
trying to get it to marshall

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
we need to go for it just to get him this record

MplsBronco
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Well at least we didn't get blown out! If thats any consolation. Great job Defense.

We should have had this game. I guess it's good to know we hung in there and competed. Shanny's teams would have given up after 21-0. We pissed the game away. I don't know if that is better or worse than getting blown out.

frerottenextelway
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
just throw Marshall a screen here....

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
quintessential Orton right there. Good thing he didn't fumble.

broncobum6162
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
****

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Man I hope they give Marshall the record! This game is lost. Get something good out of it.

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
great a sack.

marshall screen for 2 yards on 4th and 18 please

OrangeShadow
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
stupid stream

oubronco
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Orton even ****ed up Marshalls record

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
so at what point do you see that our play calling is adjusted to Orton's limitations? Seriously, our offense is so formulaic its sad. A better QB wins this game. 3 TO's from Peyton Manning? Are you kidding me? Our Defense should win the Nobel Prize.

Let me make it simple for you. When you can't run for one ****ing yard on third down it doesn't matter who your QB is. You'll have a hard time scoring points.

extralife
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
can't even get brandon his record :(

epicSocialism4tw
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
and the bears lose

Well...at least we have that going for us.

Denver724
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
That 3rd and 10 they converted on this drive killed us. A Smith got beat and then missed the tackle.

Every time I see that bastard on the field I get pissed. Trading that pick was a horrible decision. He flat sucks right now. I just hope he gets better.

HEAV
12-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Jacksonville lost so Denver still has the lead in the wildcard.

Bears lost so better draft pick

Cutler throws picks 21 & 22

UberBroncoMan
12-13-2009, 02:05 PM
can't even get brandon his record :(

Technically he has it... it's just that he's tied for 1st.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:05 PM
We should have had this game. I guess it's good to know we hung in there and competed. Shanny's teams would have given up after 21-0. We pissed the game away. I don't know if that is better or worse than getting blown out.

Are you kidding? We HAD them. Last year's team loses this by 40. I'm as happy as you can be after a loss.

ElwayMD
12-13-2009, 02:05 PM
so at what point do you see that our play calling is adjusted to Orton's limitations? Seriously, our offense is so formulaic its sad. A better QB wins this game. 3 TO's from Peyton Manning? Are you kidding me? Our Defense should win the Nobel Prize.

It's idiotic to say that it was Orton that kept us from winning this game. It was the pansy ass playcalling on 3rd and short. It was the penalties that quickly killed our drives. The only horrible play Orton made was the pick where he under threw BMarsh. Orton has proven that he understands the offense and can produce in it.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Let me make it simple for you. When you can't run for one ****ing yard on third down it doesn't matter who your QB is. You'll have a hard time scoring points.

thank you for keeping it simple. haha

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
got it!!!

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
LOL, awesome. CONGRATS MARSHALL!!!

Natedog24
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
LOL at least he got the record

frerottenextelway
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Yay, he got the record.

Fun game to watch, albeit frustrating.

Bring on the Raiders.

NYBronco
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
quintessential Orton right there. Good thing he didn't fumble.

Oline gave Orton plenty of protection...

cabronco
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Kuper with a better run than Moreno all day long . lol

HEAV
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Congrats to B-Marsh! You just made 2-3 million dollars added to your contract.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
nice lateral Marshall you big pimp

gyldenlove
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Is it me or is Orton looking a lot more like Cutler now than he did in the first games of the year? he has been throwing some red zone picks, he is forcing the ball to Marshall, throwing into tight windows, taking sacks when he could throw the ball away.

Goobzilla
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Congrats Brandon, you've really shown me a lot this season! Hope you get paid by us!

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:07 PM
marshall with the record!!!

f yes!!! thats all that matters

epicSocialism4tw
12-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Jacksonville lost so Denver still has the lead in the wildcard.

Bears lost so better draft pick

Cutler throws picks 21 & 22

I guess if our team doesnt win, trade, or draft well, we can always hope for the bad fortunes of others to make it better. :rofl:

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:07 PM
well, we hung with the colts. Stupid mistakes, horrible run blocking, and a ****ty first quarter.

Congrats to bmarsh for the record!

I'm proud of the boys for today, extremely frustrating, but our D stepped it up and we hung with the best team in the league for three quarters.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Congrats to Indy too. Definitely a franchise you can look up to.

frerottenextelway
12-13-2009, 02:08 PM
Redskins vs. Raiders on now, my eyes, my eyes!

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:08 PM
It's idiotic to say that it was Orton that kept us from winning this game. It was the pansy ass playcalling on 3rd and short. It was the penalties that quickly killed our drives. The only horrible play Orton made was the pick where he under threw BMarsh. Orton has proven that he understands the offense and can produce in it.
I'm at the point where I think McD is a genius. Only way play calling was "pansy" was because of Orton. Deal with it.

Broncoman13
12-13-2009, 02:08 PM
We won't lose again this year. The way our defense didn't give up and the way we fought to the end... This team ain't going away folks. They're going to make noise in the playoffs too. Very impressed with how we fought.

Oh and leave Popps' boy Wesley Woodyard in INDY. HE SUCKS.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Horrible play calling in my opinion, but we really missed Buck. Moreno is not ready to be our Workhorse.

I'll be saying that all along.

McDaniels stuborness to not get Hillis involved in our running game is beyond disgusting.
To not have a guy who can impact the game and insist on giving the ball to Moreno who we have already seen everything we need to see from the guy is irresponsible and stupid.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Redskins vs. Raiders on now, my eyes, my eyes!

You know what, go Raiders, get the 5th win and tie with Chicago.

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Is it me or is Orton looking a lot more like Cutler now than he did in the first games of the year? he has been throwing some red zone picks, he is forcing the ball to Marshall, throwing into tight windows, taking sacks when he could throw the ball away.

Guy can't win can he. People bitch he throws it away too much. Starts making a few extra throws now he's turning into Cutler.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Go Cowboys!!! Tonight I'm a Cowboys fan. This rarely happens!!!

Natedog24
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Frustrating loss because Denver had a real opportunity to win this game but definably not a bad loss. Oakland however will be a must win game next week.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Horrible play calling in my opinion, but we really missed Buck. Moreno is not ready to be our Workhorse.

I've been saying that all along.

McDaniels stuborness to not get Hillis involved in our running game is beyond disgusting.
To not have a guy who can impact the game and insist on giving the ball to Moreno who we have already seen everything we need to see from the guy is irresponsible and stupid.

eddie mac
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
I have to admit that I was really impressed with the way we played against Manning for the majority of this game. Better execution on offense and the scoreboard may have been different.

MplsBronco
12-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Are you kidding? We HAD them. Last year's team loses this by 40. I'm as happy as you can be after a loss.

I agree on the losing by 40 part and should we play them again that remains a real possiblity. Giving games away to a 12-0 team in the midst of a playoff race and divisional race do not make me happy.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Ok I'm going to be pissed if we don't pay Marshall. Imagine this game without him!

Orange4Life
12-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Suck. Not our best effort today but we kept fighting and stayed in the game. I'm happy with the effort. Best effort we have had in indy since the Q miracle game. If we play them in the playoffs I think we have have a chance.

Nice game by Kyle and BM was a total monster. Unbelievable game!

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:10 PM
http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/brandon_marshall.jpg

:contract::contract::contract:

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Moreno 23 for 63.1.5 yards below his average. That's pathetic!

NYBronco
12-13-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm at the point where I think McD is a genius. Only way play calling was "pansy" was because of Orton. Deal with it.

I can deal with it if Orton gets protection on obvious passing plays and is supported by a rushing game and RB/FB pass protection. He also needs two more Marshal's a receivers.

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
I'll be saying that all along.

McDaniels stuborness to not get Hillis involved in our running game is beyond disgusting.
To not have a guy who can impact the game and insist on giving the ball to Moreno who we have already seen everything we need to see from the guy is irresponsible and stupid.

****ING SHUT UP Dude.

Hillis got a carry and the result was the same as every other carry in the game. A short gain.

We need more beef in the middle to block for us. Third and short has killed us all year.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
Moreno 23 for 63.
1.5 yards below his average.
That's pathetic!

Natedog24
12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
omfg Baltimore 48 Detroit 3 :rofl:

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
we lost but i liked the way we fought and didnt give up.

21-0 with shanahan and cutler = 35-3 final score.

with mcdaniels atleast we had a chance down 21-16. but manning did what he does best and thats finish the game.

im not happy with the running game today. no excuse to suck that bad.

i expect a better game against the raiders next week.

SJ Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
I like that Marshall didn't celebrate the record while his team was losing. In fact, he looked indifferent. That's a good sign in a weird way

flair
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Never happy with a loss, didnt like some of the play calling but hopefully MCD will learn from his mistakes, with that said i saw a sign for hope today which is more than I can say most of the times that we play the Colts.

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
I can deal with it if Orton gets protection on obvious passing plays and is supported by a rushing game and RB/FB pass protection. He also needs two more Marshal's a receivers.

Throw in an ARM and some LEGS and I totally agree with you.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
I agree on the losing by 40 part and should we play them again that remains a real possiblity. Giving games away to a 12-0 team in the midst of a playoff race and divisional race do not make me happy.

Well I'm not happy. I'm proud of them. There's just no comparison, I felt devastated and felt like we were the worst team in the league after we played Indy the last few times. This time? I feel like we can beat any team and are a few players away from making some SERIOUS noise.

ElwayMD
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
I'm at the point where I think McD is a genius. Only way play calling was "pansy" was because of Orton. Deal with it.

Deal with what? The fact that you have no clue what you are talking about? Why was everyone on this board complaining when we ran the ball on 3rd and short? Because we have more confidence in Orton passing the ball on 3rd and short than trying the Moreno run into his Oline play. Take your Orton hating sunglasses off and realize that he can and is succeeding in our Offense and it's forced running plays and penalties that have killed the broncos offense.

MplsBronco
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
I'm at the point where I think McD is a genius. Only way play calling was "pansy" was because of Orton. Deal with it.

If serious, this is the most retarded post I have read. Fuggen moron. Orton is good enough to lead this team but the playcalling today was atrocious.

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
well that picture took ten minutes to load.

cabronco
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
marshall with the record!!!

f yes!!! thats all that matters

That's all that matters huh ? The Broncos lose and are slipping down in the playoffs , but Marshall getting todays record is all that matters ? Some Bronco fan you are. Congrats to BM, but the team/ coach should of done better.

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Moreno 23 for 63.1.5 yards below his average. That's pathetic!

seriously dude, shut the **** up. We get it, you were hoping he'd have a ****ty game to prove a point. Well, he had a ****ty game, no thanks to our horrific run blocking.

Just ****ign go away.

Hilis wouldn't have done any better

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 02:14 PM
one good thing that comes from this loss. we now know that if we meet the Colts in the playoffs, we can hang with a beat them if we can get our offense working a little better

also, if we don't begin talks with Marshall right now, we may be the dumbest franchise in the league.

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:14 PM
omfg Baltimore 48 Detroit 3 :rofl:


what you suprised detroit scored 3? :clown:

orangemonkey
12-13-2009, 02:15 PM
Deal with what? The fact that you have no clue what you are talking about? Why was everyone on this board complaining when we ran the ball on 3rd and short? Because we have more confidence in Orton passing the ball on 3rd and short than trying the Moreno run into his Oline play. Take your Orton hating sunglasses off and realize that he can and is succeeding in our Offense and it's forced running plays and penalties that have killed the broncos offense.


Ok brother. We're a bottom 3rd producing offense in the league. Seriously put it to rest. You have no clue what production means. You have to be a top half scoring team to beat good teams with consistently. Orton has brought mediocrity to this city from day one. I back him on game day but I'm smart enough to know that he is our top 3 weakest link by miles.

Mecklomaniac
12-13-2009, 02:16 PM
Is it me or is Orton looking a lot more like Cutler now than he did in the first games of the year? he has been throwing some red zone picks, he is forcing the ball to Marshall, throwing into tight windows, taking sacks when he could throw the ball away.

Yeah but without the arm and talent

Orange4Life
12-13-2009, 02:16 PM
Moreno 23 for 63.1.5 yards below his average. That's pathetic!

Moreno didn't have his best game but in fairness to him our run blocking today was total **** for most part. There isn't a running back alive that could get yards they way we were blocking.

The sad part is Indy's defense shouldn't be able to shut down our run game like that. Especially without sanders. It all starts up front. Run blocking was my biggest disappointment today.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:16 PM
We won't lose again this year. The way our defense didn't give up and the way we fought to the end... This team ain't going away folks. They're going to make noise in the playoffs too. Very impressed with how we fought.

Oh and leave Popps' boy Wesley Woodyard in INDY. HE SUCKS.

Dekcuf with the way the offense is performing right now, beating the Raiders won't be easy. They're new QB is playing so much better than Jamarcus Russell and is moving the offense!

cabronco
12-13-2009, 02:17 PM
Moreno 23 for 63.
1.5 yards below his average.
That's pathetic!

Thats horrific and pathetic, especially for a Bronco team. I place some blame on the coach to continue running Moreno when it was obvious he was hurting and not running 100 %,

Garcia Bronco
12-13-2009, 02:17 PM
We could have won this game. ****ing offense just did not execute at all consistently.

BlaK-Argentina
12-13-2009, 02:17 PM
That's all that matters huh ? The Broncos lose and are slipping down in the playoffs , but Marshall getting todays record is all that matters ? Some Bronco fan you are. Congrats to BM, but the team/ coach should of done better.

Seriously. How dumb is that? I'm sure Marshall would trade his record for a win today.

That said, don't be so negative. We're still in pretty good shape. SD loses this game and we're right back we're we started. Jax lost.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:18 PM
seriously dude, shut the **** up. We get it, you were hoping he'd have a ****ty game to prove a point. Well, he had a ****ty game, no thanks to our horrific run blocking.

Just ****ign go away.

Hilis wouldn't have done any better

Truth hurts?
I thought so.
I was hoping for a win.
The fact that our running game killed any chances we've had goes with what I've been saying and against what you've been saying.
Yes, I'm right. I've been right. I'd wish I had to eat crow in exchange for a win.
But if you don't have a legitimate threat at RB, our offense can not rely on Kyle freakin' Orton to lead us to victory against the elite teams in the NFL.
If we hope to be contenders, we need to run the ball down the throats of opponents.
Right now, Moreno is not it.

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 02:19 PM
i feel bad for the defense today. they took over for almost the entire 2nd half, repeatedly gave the offense short field and we could not capitalize. 3 INTs and a record day by Marshall should have resulted in a win.

we need to figure out what is wrong with our run blocking. we are far too inept running in the red zone and in short yardage situations.

dsmoot
12-13-2009, 02:20 PM
Moreno didn't have his best game but in fairness to him our run blocking today was total **** for most part. There isn't a running back alive that could get yards they way we were blocking.

The sad part is Indy's defense shouldn't be able to shut down our run game like that. Especially without sanders. It all starts up front. Run blocking was my biggest disappointment today.

We have been lacking in short yardage running success the last 2 -3 years. We do not match up physically in the trenches. None of today's problems were really surprising.

ElwayMD
12-13-2009, 02:21 PM
Ok brother. We're a bottom 3rd producing offense in the league. Seriously put it to rest. You have no clue what production means. You have to be a top half scoring team to beat good teams with consistently. Orton has brought mediocrity to this city from day one. I back him on game day but I'm smart enough to know that he is our top 3 weakest link by miles.

If the prospect of a 10 win season is mediocrity then sign me up. Btw we had a ****load of production last year. How far did that get us in the playoffs? Guess you are one of the r-tards that still thinks that we should be last years offense and sling it up and down the field until we hit the red zone and settle for FG's or the famous Cutler red zone TO. This team is better w/ Orton whether you like it or not. He's proven to be a winner and a better QB than anyone gave him credit for.

Orange4Life
12-13-2009, 02:22 PM
We have been lacking in short yardage running success the last 2 -3 years. We do not match up physically in the trenches. None of today's problems were really surprising.

I agree. We need more beef up front or more heart. Either one will do

Broncos_OTM
12-13-2009, 02:24 PM
Truth hurts?
I thought so.
I was hoping for a win.
The fact that our running game killed any chances we've had goes with what I've been saying and against what you've been saying.
Yes, I'm right. I've been right. I'd wish I had to eat crow in exchange for a win.
But if you don't have a legitimate threat at RB, our offense can not rely on Kyle freakin' Orton to lead us to victory against the elite teams in the NFL.
If we hope to be contenders, we need to run the ball down the throats of opponents.
Right now, Moreno is not it.

Dude, Go back to trying to pass of pics of other people on your profile as yourself. you are a ****ing jackass.

Harvitz81
12-13-2009, 02:24 PM
Truth hurts?
I thought so.
I was hoping for a win.
The fact that our running game killed any chances we've had goes with what I've been saying and against what you've been saying.
Yes, I'm right. I've been right. I'd wish I had to eat crow in exchange for a win.
But if you don't have a legitimate threat at RB, our offense can not rely on Kyle freakin' Orton to lead us to victory against the elite teams in the NFL.
If we hope to be contenders, we need to run the ball down the throats of opponents.
Right now, Moreno is not it.

Did you even watch the game today??? No RB in the league would have had a chance today on our team the way the offensive line was blocking. Indy was in our backfield all day long. Oh, and the one carry your boy hillis got was for 2 yards. The line sucked ass today in the run game.

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:24 PM
Truth hurts?
I thought so.
I was hoping for a win.
The fact that our running game killed any chances we've had goes with what I've been saying and against what you've been saying.
Yes, I'm right. I've been right. I'd wish I had to eat crow in exchange for a win.
But if you don't have a legitimate threat at RB, our offense can not rely on Kyle freakin' Orton to lead us to victory against the elite teams in the NFL.
If we hope to be contenders, we need to run the ball down the throats of opponents.
Right now, Moreno is not it.

No. I haven't been saying anything, really. I just don't see the point in gloating when you didn't prove anything. From all of the garbage you've spewed, i don't remember you EVER talking about how crappy our o-line blocked. If you really think hillis could've done any better then you're just delusional.

I just wish you'd go away, because you're a ****ing homo.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:24 PM
seriously dude, shut the **** up. We get it, you were hoping he'd have a ****ty game to prove a point. Well, he had a ****ty game, no thanks to our horrific run blocking.

Just ****ign go away.

Hilis wouldn't have done any better

Failed logic on your behalf buddy. Drag wasn't wishing for Moreno to have a bad day. Drag was hopping that if Moreno didn't have it going on today and Buckhalter couldn't finish the game due to injury.....at least Hillis would have had plays scripted his way. You have absolutely no clue how Hillis would have performed today b/c McDaniel's was playing Defense and tackling Hillis on the sidelines all day today. McD is a young egotistical punk who allow the Broncos to lose and the offense to fail just to show he's the smartest moron in the room. McD knew Moreno didn't have it TODAY and he knows he can't depend on C-Buck to stay healthy....so what does McD do, he keeps giving the ball to Moreno and even gave Moreno C-Bucks carries and leaves a versatile weapon in Hillis on the Bench!

McDaniel's deserve a "Blanket Party"....plain and simple.

LongDongJohnson
12-13-2009, 02:25 PM
That's all that matters huh ? The Broncos lose and are slipping down in the playoffs , but Marshall getting todays record is all that matters ? Some Bronco fan you are. Congrats to BM, but the team/ coach should of done better.
shut up.....

dont be stupid. obviously the loss is more important.

were slipping down the playoffs yeah, but remember we have to home games against weak teams. we win those like we should and we will be fine.

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 02:27 PM
Truth hurts?
I thought so.
I was hoping for a win.
The fact that our running game killed any chances we've had goes with what I've been saying and against what you've been saying.
Yes, I'm right. I've been right. I'd wish I had to eat crow in exchange for a win.
But if you don't have a legitimate threat at RB, our offense can not rely on Kyle freakin' Orton to lead us to victory against the elite teams in the NFL.
If we hope to be contenders, we need to run the ball down the throats of opponents.
Right now, Moreno is not it.

you truly are a moron. i don't care if we had Moreno, Buck, Chris Johnson or AD, the way our line played today would have made anyone look bad running the ball today.

it seemed in just about every run today, Indy had defenders in the backfield almost immediately. you can't expect a great output if there is no room to run the ball. That doesn't fall on the shoulders of the RBs that falls squarely on the line.

truthfully, McDaniels needs to allow Dennison to go back to running the ZBS exclusively and as new players who fit the straight ahead power running scheme McDaniels wants are brought in, then begin the transition to a different style of running.

that is my lone critique of McDaniels right now. that he is trying to make the line into something it isn't.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:28 PM
No. I haven't been saying anything, really. I just don't see the point in gloating when you didn't prove anything. From all of the garbage you've spewed, i don't remember you EVER talking about how crappy our o-line blocked. If you really think hillis could've done any better then you're just delusional.

I just wish you'd go away, because you're a ****ing homo.Accept the truth and be a man.
You're the one looking like a homo, moron!

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Failed logic on your behalf buddy. Drag wasn't wishing for Moreno to have a bad day. Drag was hopping that if Moreno didn't have it going on today and Buckhalter couldn't finish the game due to injury.....at least Hillis would have had plays scripted his way. You have absolutely no clue how Hillis would have performed today b/c McDaniel's was playing Defense and tackling Hillis on the sidelines all day today. McD is a young egotistical punk who allow the Broncos to lose and the offense to fail just to show he's the smartest moron in the room. McD knew Moreno didn't have it TODAY and he knows he can't depend on C-Buck to stay healthy....so what does McD do, he keeps giving the ball to Moreno and even gave Moreno C-Bucks carries and leaves a versatile weapon in Hillis on the Bench!

McDaniel's deserve a "Blanket Party"....plain and simple.

:rofl:

okay, you just keep running with that.

I really don't have anything else to say to you, either, if you think our head coach would purposefully allow us to lose to prove a point.
Do I disagree that he should've changed up the playcalling when it came to our run game? YES.

Holy **** on a stick you are just retarded sometimes man.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:30 PM
you truly are a moron. i don't care if we had Moreno, Buck, Chris Johnson or AD, the way our line played today would have made anyone look bad running the ball today.

it seemed in just about every run today, Indy had defenders in the backfield almost immediately. you can't expect a great output if there is no room to run the ball. That doesn't fall on the shoulders of the RBs that falls squarely on the line.

truthfully, McDaniels needs to allow Dennison to go back to running the ZBS exclusively and as new players who fit the straight ahead power running scheme McDaniels wants are brought in, then begin the transition to a different style of running.

that is my lone critique of McDaniels right now. that he is trying to make the line into something it isn't.Only truly morons like you fail to see that Moreno stumbled all game long before having a chance to cross the LOS, you ****ing retard.
How many times did he get stopped for a loss, ****ing idiot?
Why are you blaming the OL for his inabilities to run the ****ing ball, freakin' idiot?

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Accept the truth and be a man.
You're the one looking like a homo, moron!

the truth? That our oline played like **** and McD made some poor playcalling (in my opion) decisions to keep going back to the run?

I DID except it.

You're just trying to take credit for something you didn't say, broncofan7.

Continue being an ass, but do it somewhere else, you fcuking artard.

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 02:32 PM
:rofl:

okay, you just keep running with that.

I really don't have anything else to say to you, either, if you think our head coach would purposefully allow us to lose to prove a point.
Do I disagree that he should've changed up the playcalling when it came to our run game? YES.

Holy **** on a stick you are just retarded sometimes man.
Sometimes? I've never seen a take from pastagirl that wasn't retarded.

Him and dragqueen69 make downs babies look bright.

Ben

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:32 PM
Did you even watch the game today??? No RB in the league would have had a chance today on our team the way the offensive line was blocking. Indy was in our backfield all day long. Oh, and the one carry your boy hillis got was for 2 yards. The line sucked ass today in the run game.Oh, we're blaming the OL now?

I for some reason knew there had to be a reason Moreno sucked today.
Yup, that's it. The OL. Dumb me! ROFL!

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:33 PM
Did you even watch the game today??? No RB in the league would have had a chance today on our team the way the offensive line was blocking. Indy was in our backfield all day long. Oh, and the one carry your boy hillis got was for 2 yards. The line sucked ass today in the run game.

The one carry by Hillis for two yards doesn't prove you right by a long shot! Had Hillis gotten 10 carries and had 20 yards then yes you have a point.

But you can't say Hillis would have had 63 yards on 23 carries today b/c McD did not give Hillis the opportunity to even take over Buckhalters carries! McD's stubbornness and favoritism came shinning thru today and he put this above the interest of the team.

McD knew Moreno for various of reasons wasn't going to get it done today......yet he stubbornly stayed with Moreno while not scripting plays rushing and passing plays for Hills. Pure incompetence and epic fail on behalf of McD today.

The Defense played well enough to get a win today. Its unfortunately the Defense didn't have the luxury of finding out whether Hillis could have helped them out for a possible victory. The offense needed a spark in the running game and Hillis could have been the spark! had McD hadn't been stubborn and playing favoritism to the detriment of the entire team.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:34 PM
Sometimes? I've never seen a take from pastagirl that wasn't retarded.

Him and dragqueen69 make downs babies look bright.

Bendragqueen, huh?
Did I strike a nerve?
Was I wrong?
No, I wasn't wrong, you ****ing moron.
That hurts you, I know it hurts you, but you know, be a man and come up with a better retort, retard!

dsmoot
12-13-2009, 02:36 PM
I agree. We need more beef up front or more heart. Either one will do

I think the lack of short yardage ability has been a significant limitation of our ability to be successful and get into the playoffs. This becomes very important in the red zone where an offense doesn't have much room to get separation. Too many times this team has had to settle for field goals or are unable to sustain drives.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Only truly morons like you fail to see that Moreno stumbled all game long before having a chance to cross the LOS, you ****ing retard.
How many times did he get stopped for a loss, ****ing idiot?
Why are you blaming the OL for his inabilities to run the ****ing ball, freakin' idiot?

Rep! and QFTT. Moreno was begging for McD to script some plays to Hillis b/c deep down Moreno knew he wasn't going to get it done and Moreno has hit the rookie wall in terms of wearing down!!!

Everyone knows after C-Buck went down with a spranged ankle that McD should have given C-Bucks production/carries to Hillis!!!

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Did you even watch the game today??? No RB in the league would have had a chance today on our team the way the offensive line was blocking. Indy was in our backfield all day long. Oh, and the one carry your boy hillis got was for 2 yards. The line sucked ass today in the run game.

Yup. He got a meaningless carry for 2 yards.
Hardly any evidence for the people with brains to make anything out of it, except you.
We do know that no matter how many carries Moreno gets, we can always count with 65 yards and no touchdowns. That's not going to cut it, bud!

dsmoot
12-13-2009, 02:39 PM
Only truly morons like you fail to see that Moreno stumbled all game long before having a chance to cross the LOS, you ****ing retard.
How many times did he get stopped for a loss, ****ing idiot?
Why are you blaming the OL for his inabilities to run the ****ing ball, freakin' idiot?

I think the evidence of penetration into the backfield on a frequent occurrence might be enough.

Bronx33
12-13-2009, 02:40 PM
606 conflict posts nice WORK there dragster.Hilarious!

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 02:40 PM
buzz-buzz-buzz

Did somebody say something?

Kid, you're dumber than a bag of hammers. Strike a nerve? Hardly. I just laugh at stupid asses like you.

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 02:42 PM
Only truly morons like you fail to see that Moreno stumbled all game long before having a chance to cross the LOS, you ****ing retard.
How many times did he get stopped for a loss, ****ing idiot?
Why are you blaming the OL for his inabilities to run the ****ing ball, freakin' idiot?

Because you ****ing moron. You can't run if you don't get a ****ing block. Did you see any good blocking out there today? Especially in short yardage situations?

****ing a how can you all be so dense? How the **** is a McDaniels won't play Hillis conspiracy more logical than we have a ****ty run blocking group on the interior of our offensive line?

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:42 PM
Oh, we're blaming the OL now?

I for some reason knew there had to be a reason Moreno sucked today.
Yup, that's it. The OL. Dumb me! ROFL!

No wait, the excuses use to be that Hillis was just a dummy for the hills of Arkansas and is way too mentally challenged to understand and execute McD's Harvard laced offense. Then the excuse was Hillis was a BAD practice player! Then the excuse was Hillis didn't bring McD his McDonalds breakfast on time during training camp and landed into McD's dog house!

The excuses are endless with these yokle homers. Utterly amazing.

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 02:44 PM
Only truly morons like you fail to see that Moreno stumbled all game long before having a chance to cross the LOS, you ****ing retard.
How many times did he get stopped for a loss, ****ing idiot?
Why are you blaming the OL for his inabilities to run the ****ing ball, freakin' idiot?

yeah he stumbled in the backfield over and around all the ****ing defenders that were getting through the line. watch the ****ing game and just look at just about every run where defenders got into the backfield almost the moment Moreno got the ball in his hands.

getting stopped for loss falls on the shoulders of the ****ing line you retarded jackass. behind the line means defenders got behind our ****ing line meaning our OL was not playing particularly well.

and i blame the line for his inability to run the ball effectively today because if there are no lanes for him to rush through he is not going to look good.

i don't give a **** if is was AD behind our line today, the way our line played there is no chance in hell that any RB is going to look good.

grow a ****ing brain and think before you spam this board with your dumbass attempts to try and sound intelligent about football.

Denver724
12-13-2009, 02:45 PM
Thats horrific and pathetic, especially for a Bronco team. I place some blame on the coach to continue running Moreno when it was obvious he was hurting and not running 100 %,

Should have taken Orakpo. He just got his 8th sack.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:47 PM
the truth? That our oline played like **** and McD made some poor playcalling (in my opion) decisions to keep going back to the run?

I DID except it.

You're just trying to take credit for something you didn't say, broncofan7.

Continue being an ass, but do it somewhere else, you ****ing artard.

Who is broncofan7 you ****in' retard?
Did you see how long I've been registered?
Of course being a retard you cannot make that connection, can you?

How can you blame the OL?

If you're going to make a point with stupidity, at least back it up with real facts.
"Denver is 26th (and dropping) in the NFL (scoring TDs in the Red Zone). We go 2-6 today."
Is that the OL's fault or a trend that shows our inability to punch the ball inside the red zone, our inability to convert in the red zone.

Your love for Moreno is blinding your common sense.
Get your head out of his ass so you can see what's going on.
I'll be you will be able to see more clearly

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:49 PM
Because you ****ing moron. You can't run if you don't get a ****ing block. Did you see any good blocking out there today? Especially in short yardage situations?

****ing a how can you all be so dense? How the **** is a McDaniels won't play Hillis conspiracy more logical than we have a ****ty run blocking group on the interior of our offensive line?

Hey dude you spew Pro-McD propaganda all you want to. However, if you want to put the Hillis argument to rest/to bed; the only way to do so is to allow Hillis at least 10 rushing attempts and 5 or 6 passes out of the back field thrown his way in each of the last 3 games to put YOU and McD's theories to the test on whether Hillis is just a garbage player!

Talk is cheap buddy lets settle it on the field. Moreno ain't getting it done! C-Buck can't stay healthy! Jordan is injured! So that leaves Hillis to prove whether slick ass McD is right! or whether McD has been lying all along!!

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 02:49 PM
yeah he stumbled in the backfield over and around all the ****ing defenders that were getting through the line. watch the ****ing game and just look at just about every run where defenders got into the backfield almost the moment Moreno got the ball in his hands.

getting stopped for loss falls on the shoulders of the ****ing line you retarded jackass. behind the line means defenders got behind our ****ing line meaning our OL was not playing particularly well.

and i blame the line for his inability to run the ball effectively today because if there are no lanes for him to rush through he is not going to look good.

i don't give a **** if is was AD behind our line today, the way our line played there is no chance in hell that any RB is going to look good.

grow a ****ing brain and think before you spam this board with your dumbass attempts to try and sound intelligent about football.

Don't argue with morons. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ;D

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:56 PM
yeah he stumbled in the backfield over and around all the ****ing defenders that were getting through the line. watch the ****ing game and just look at just about every run where defenders got into the backfield almost the moment Moreno got the ball in his hands.

getting stopped for loss falls on the shoulders of the ****ing line you retarded jackass. behind the line means defenders got behind our ****ing line meaning our OL was not playing particularly well.

and i blame the line for his inability to run the ball effectively today because if there are no lanes for him to rush through he is not going to look good.

i don't give a **** if is was AD behind our line today, the way our line played there is no chance in hell that any RB is going to look good.

grow a ****ing brain and think before you spam this board with your dumbass attempts to try and sound intelligent about football.65 yards is what he's been averaging.
He is not an impact runner.
He's utterly overrated and overhyped.
He sucks.
He can't get it done.
That''s why he's got no 100-yard game the whole freakin' season. That's 13 games and counting, moron!
How can you blame anybody else with the unsurmounting amount of evidence that points to this guy being a bust in the NFL?

Believe what you want to believe, call me a jackass, what you know what, I believe what I see, not what I want to see.
Moreno has sucked all season long.
Yes he's going to have a good game here and there, but overall he's not a running threat against anybody.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:56 PM
shut up.....

dont be stupid. obviously the loss is more important.

were slipping down the playoffs yeah, but remember we have to home games against weak teams. we win those like we should and we will be fine.

Hmmmmm.....boy are you setting yourself up for disappointment and epic let down buddy.

I'm watching the Oak-Wash game and the Raiders sure look allot different now that Jamarcus has been benched. Gabrowski(sp) is moving the offense and Oak is gaining confidence. If our offense doens't show or our defense gets worn due to the inefficiency of the offense, the Raiders can beat us!!

Just keep that in mind.

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 02:56 PM
Don't argue with morons. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ;D

good point. arguing with incompetence gets nowhere and just pisses me off, and makes me want to pucnh a retard in the face

Boobs McGee
12-13-2009, 02:56 PM
Who is broncofan7 you ****in' retard?
Did you see how long I've been registered?
Of course being a retard you cannot make that connection, can you?

How can you blame the OL?

If you're going to make a point with stupidity, at least back it up with real facts.
"Denver is 26th (and dropping) in the NFL (scoring TDs in the Red Zone). We go 2-6 today."
Is that the OL's fault or a trend that shows our inability to punch the ball inside the red zone, our inability to convert in the red zone.

Your love for Moreno is blinding your common sense.
Get your head out of his ass so you can see what's going on.
I'll be you will be able to see more clearly

well, yes, you ****ing dip****. It's partially related. ESPECIALLY when you're trying to run the ball. If you're getting hit two yards behind the line of scrimmage, I could see how it would affect your ability to "punch it in".

Is that so hard to understand?

Yes, I think moreno is going to be good. I haven't been championing ANYONE on here in the running back discussion. I'm all for putting in whoEVER can produce, be it bucky, knowshon or hillis.

BUT, when you're offensive line can't keep the defense out of your backfield when the ball is snapped, NO ONE IS GOING TO RUN THE BALL WELL.

For ****s sake, go suck some more dick for coke and leave us all alone.

I'm done. Have fun replying with more of your b.s.

strafen
12-13-2009, 02:57 PM
Don't argue with morons. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ;DMake your point then.
Can't accept you're wrong?
Can't accept the fact we have a first round bust in the making?
Prove me otherwise.
Talk to me!

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Don't argue with morons. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ;D

Yeah right! The only time you see a "Moron" is when you're looking in the mirror!:sunshine:

Dagmar
12-13-2009, 02:59 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/6iuujq.jpg

rastaman
12-13-2009, 02:59 PM
well, yes, you ****ing dip****. It's partially related. ESPECIALLY when you're trying to run the ball. If you're getting hit two yards behind the line of scrimmage, I could see how it would affect your ability to "punch it in".

Is that so hard to understand?

Yes, I think moreno is going to be good. I haven't been championing ANYONE on here in the running back discussion. I'm all for putting in whoEVER can produce, be it bucky, knowshon or hillis.

BUT, when you're offensive line can't keep the defense out of your backfield when the ball is snapped, NO ONE IS GOING TO RUN THE BALL WELL.

For ****s sake, go suck some more dick for coke and leave us all alone.

I'm done. Have fun replying with more of your b.s.

Run a long you won't be missed. Nite-Nite!:~ohyah!:

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 03:00 PM
Hey dude you spew Pro-McD propaganda all you want to. However, if you want to put the Hillis argument to rest/to bed; the only way to do so is to allow Hillis at least 10 rushing attempts and 5 or 6 passes out of the back field thrown his way in each of the last 3 games to put YOU and McD's theories to the test on whether Hillis is just a garbage player!

Talk is cheap buddy lets settle it on the field. Moreno ain't getting it done! C-Buck can't stay healthy! Jordan is injured! So that leaves Hillis to prove whether slick ass McD is right! or whether McD has been lying all along!!

Why don't you join ghaff in the politics forum? That's the forum for conspiracies. Hillis isn't playing for a reason. It's not that McDaniels hates him or doesn't think he can run. It's that he misses assignments.

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:00 PM
For ****s sake, go suck some more dick for coke How that worked out for ya'?
You liked it so much you're now inviting people to do the same?
No thanks, bud.
I'm going to have to take your word for it.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:01 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/6iuujq.jpg

Is that all you got Shackle-Queer. Its getting old Knuckle Head.:wiggle:

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:02 PM
How that worked out for ya'?
You liked it so much you're now inviting people to do the same?
No thanks, bud.
I'm going to have to take your word for it.

Dragster....excuse Bronconia he has a lot of growing up to do.

BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2009, 03:03 PM
65 yards is what he's been averaging.
He is not an impact runner.
He's utterly overrated and overhyped.
He sucks.
He can't get it done.
That''s why he's got no 100-yard game the whole freakin' season. That's 13 games and counting, moron!
How can you blame anybody else with the unsurmounting amount of evidence that points to this guy being a bust in the NFL?

Believe what you want to believe, call me a jackass, what you know what, I believe what I see, not what I want to see.
Moreno has sucked all season long.
Yes he's going to have a good game here and there, but overall he's not a running threat against anybody.

well lets see here. he is in a situation where he is splitting carries with Buckhalter and in the 2 headed rushing attack 100 yard games are rare by either back.

and RB play goes back to the offensive line. if they are not getting adequate push run blocking, the RBs are not going to look very good.

overrated? he is by far the best RB in his draft class, and with a stronger interior line he would look even better than he has this season. 800+ yards in a splitting carries situation is a good accomplishment.

and it is pure incompetence to say he has sucked all season. 4 time winner of the Rookie of the week award, he is currently ranked something like 13th in total rushing yards in the entire league, and number 1 out of all rookies.

watermock
12-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Hillis ignored with Buck out and moreno sruggling, plus we went away from ZBS again when i was working last week, it's AWAYS WORKED FOR US.

Whatever, we wasted a 3 pick game.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:06 PM
Why don't you join ghaff in the politics forum? That's the forum for conspiracies. Hillis isn't playing for a reason. It's not that McDaniels hates him or doesn't think he can run. It's that he misses assignments.

Jesus McD has been missing assignments as well when it comes to unleashing Hillis. McD at this point is afraid of Hillis being successful especially if he McD was man enough to script 10 running plays and 5 passing plays with Hillis's name on it with last three remaining games.

Oh by the way, Moreno is stinking up the joint so bad McD might put him on special teams at the start of training camp next year. ;D

Deke23
12-13-2009, 03:07 PM
MCD's missing piece is an above average QB unfortunately. We should have won this game with 3 TO's against Manning. Our below average QB can't drive this offense to top-10 production.

Orton was pretty productive with the plays that were called for him..besides one bad throw our biggest problem today was no running attack. Way to many times today where we couldn't get any short yardage runs. Blaming our quarterback is just a easy way out.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:08 PM
well lets see here. he is in a situation where he is splitting carries with Buckhalter and in the 2 headed rushing attack 100 yard games are rare by either back.

and RB play goes back to the offensive line. if they are not getting adequate push run blocking, the RBs are not going to look very good.

overrated? he is by far the best RB in his draft class, and with a stronger interior line he would look even better than he has this season. 800+ yards in a splitting carries situation is a good accomplishment.

and it is pure incompetence to say he has sucked all season. 4 time winner of the Rookie of the week award, he is currently ranked something like 13th in total rushing yards in the entire league, and number 1 out of all rookies.

Meh! Moreno hasn't even experienced his sophmore slump yet! Stay tunned.;)

Hamrob
12-13-2009, 03:09 PM
There's no way to run the ball when the defense stacks the line of scrimmage and dares your QB to beat them. Good teams will continue to do that. And they'll give you all the 5-10yd plays you want. They'll make you drive the length of the field multiple times to beat them. If your QB can't strike fear into them with deep completions...you get what we're getting right now.

It's not so much our line. Its not so much our running backs. It's our dink and dunk boy blunder of a QB.

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Make your point then.
Can't accept you're wrong?
Can't accept the fact we have a first round bust in the making?
Prove me otherwise.
Talk to me!

You're not the type to come here for discussion. You just want to fling your **** at the wall, see what sticks and scream how "right" you are.

Sorry, but I don't debate that type of stupidity.

Ben

Hamrob
12-13-2009, 03:11 PM
Orton was pretty productive with the plays that were called for him..besides one bad throw our biggest problem today was no running attack. Way to many times today where we couldn't get any short yardage runs. Blaming our quarterback is just a easy way out.Wake up...all Orton does is throw 7yd slants and 10yd hook passes. He is average on a good day. He'll try real hard not to lose the game for you...but he won't help you all that much either. Against good teams....we will not win, unless our defense is perfect and our running game is on.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:11 PM
Orton was pretty productive with the plays that were called for him..besides one bad throw our biggest problem today was no running attack. Way to many times today where we couldn't get any short yardage runs. Blaming our quarterback is just a easy way out.

I wonder if Orton could have benefited from Hillis's contributions today! I guess we will never know. After all Orton sure benefited from Marshalls YAC today b/c it sured helped Orton's stats today.

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:12 PM
Yeah right! The only time you see a "Moron" is when you're looking in the mirror!:sunshine:

Yep. But, it's a trick mirror. It only show your reflection.

Ben

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:15 PM
You're not the type to come here for discussion. You just want to fling your **** at the wall, see what sticks and scream how "right" you are.

Sorry, but I don't debate that type of stupidity.

BenDefine in intelligible terms what is it that I've said it's stupid?
Talk to me!
You won't because you have no ammunitions to make a case.
You can't debate because you have no hard facts to prove me wrong, do you?

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:16 PM
Yep. But, it's a trick mirror. It only show your reflection.

Ben

Yeah right.......how's life in your Echo Chamber of Denial???:sunshine:

Broncoman13
12-13-2009, 03:18 PM
Peeps like Dragster are why many good posters have left. Too bad Taco is so catering to the trolls. Pu$$y

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Jesus McD has been missing assignments as well when it comes to unleashing Hillis. McD at this point is afraid of Hillis being successful especially if he McD was man enough to script 10 running plays and 5 passing plays with Hillis's name on it with last three remaining games.

Oh by the way, Moreno is stinking up the joint so bad McD might put him on special teams at the start of training camp next year. ;D

There you go with your conspiracies again. Was Shanahan in on it too?

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Peeps like Dragster are why many good posters have left. Too bad Taco is so catering to the trolls. Pu$$y

Dragster post reallity and suddenly he's a troll and Taco isn't running the OM correctly.

Okay....Dekcuk, we are all listening to ya!:clown:

rastaman
12-13-2009, 03:22 PM
There you go with your conspiracies again. Was Shanahan in on it too?

There you go with your conspiracies.....how much is Bowlen and McD paying you?:giggle:

You aren't working for free are you? I thought pimping was illegal.:rofl:

Are you a plant from the CIA?:rofl:

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:22 PM
Define in intelligible terms what is it that I've said it's stupid?
Everything that falls out of your mouth.
Talk to me!
You're incapable of a actual conversation so I'll pass
You won't because you have no ammunitions to make a case.
You give us all plenty of ammunition.
You can't debate because you have no hard facts to prove me wrong, do you?
The facts are all there and have been pointed out repeatedly by others. You simply refuse to see the obvious, therefore a debate with you is like arguing with a wall.

Ben

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:23 PM
Yeah right.......how's life in your Echo Chamber of Denial???:sunshine:

Oh, what a zinger. I'm mortally wounded by your rapier wit.

Or not. You shouldn't come to a battle of the wits unarmed. :flower:

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Peeps like Dragster are why many good posters have left. Too bad Taco is so catering to the trolls. Pu$$y
The place has certainly gone downhill. Folks like dragqueen and pastagirl are allowed to run rampant and the management doesn't give a ****. It's too bad 'cause this used to be the place to discuss all things Broncos. Now it resembles an unruly kindergarten class on crack.

Ben

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:27 PM
Peeps like Dragster are why many good posters have left. Too bad Taco is so catering to the trolls. Pu$$yWhy is that?
You see this from your own advantage point. One side only. Your side
Just because I tell it like it is which is what you don't want to hear doesn't make me a troll.
I've had good discussions over here, but when people start including calling names and insults, hey, don't b**** when you get some of the same back.
That's the way it is.

Taco John has been more than generous to actually allow this kind of language, insults and harassment to take place here.
He's doing this perhaps with the understanding that people are going to be mature enough, and respectful enough to behave with class and dignity.

And yes, before you accuse me of not having class and all of that,I have also been guilty of that, but let me tell you that it's not my way to initiate insults against anybody here, unless that person insutled me first, then it's all fair game. Making a point by insulting people is not how I roll

And you and Popps have some balls to insult Taco John by calling him pu$$y and for Popps calling him dip****.
That's not acceptable!
Being able to post here is a privilege we all have, not a right.

If you're going to insult people and call them names, then be ready to take what's coming to you...

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:28 PM
The place has certainly gone downhill. Folks like dragqueen and pastagirl are allowed to run rampant and the management doesn't give a ****. It's too bad 'cause this used to be the place to discuss all things Broncos. Now it resembles an unruly kindergarten class on crack.

BenHave you taken the time to go back and see who started the insults first?
I can guarantee you it wasn't me.
Go ahead and check, just don't take my word for it

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:29 PM
Everything that falls out of your mouth.

You're incapable of a actual conversation so I'll pass

You give us all plenty of ammunition.

The facts are all there and have been pointed out repeatedly by others. You simply refuse to see the obvious, therefore a debate with you is like arguing with a wall.

BenStill not enough to prove me wrong.
Try again...

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:32 PM
Have you taken the time to go back and see who started the insults first?
I can guarantee you it wasn't me.
Go ahead and check, just don't take my word for it
I've watched almost every thread you and pastagirl are involved in become flame fests. The only common theme...

Besides, I wasn't singling you and past out, it's you two and all the others like you.

Ben

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:34 PM
Still not enough to prove me wrong.
Try again...

I've already told you I'm not debating. It's a waste of time with your ilk.

Troll baiting is fun though. :thumbsup:

snowspot66
12-13-2009, 03:37 PM
There you go with your conspiracies.....how much is Bowlen and McD paying you?:giggle:

You aren't working for free are you? I thought pimping was illegal.:rofl:

Are you a plant from the CIA?:rofl:

The I'm rubber your glue argument?

Seriously. Tell me how you believing McDaniels isn't playing Hillis because he's afraid of looking like an idiot is not a conspiracy? The logical and simplest explanation is that Hillis is not getting his reads and assignments right. Yet you continue to believe McDaniels is afraid of looking like an idiot.

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:40 PM
The I'm rubber your glue argument?

Seriously. Tell me how you believing McDaniels isn't playing Hillis because he's afraid of looking like an idiot is not a conspiracy? The logical and simplest explanation is that Hillis is not getting his reads and assignments right. Yet you continue to believe McDaniels is afraid of looking like an idiot.

Snowspot, we all know that coaches play the players and do the things they think will be best for the team. Let the delusional keep their delusions. Arguing with them is pointless.

Troll baiting however...

Ben

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:40 PM
I've watched almost every thread you and pastagirl are involved in become flame fests. The only common theme...

Besides, I wasn't singling you and past out, it's you two and all the others like you.

Ben

So, if I say Moreno played hard, really tried, and that he should be considered the MVP of the Broncos this season, would that make me more acceptable than if I say otherwise?
The flame fest has been initiated by others.
Because nobody wants to respect our opinions as valid ones, and being able to discuss rahter than force your point with a insult-laden replies, then all of the sudden we're not real fans, we're haters, we're retards, we're dip****, we're morons, we're stupid, etc...
Isn't that what you're referring to?
I don't expect you to admit that, but that's how things have gone here, no?

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:43 PM
So, if I say Moreno played hard, really tried, and that he should be considered the MVP of the Broncos this season, would that make me more acceptable than if I say otherwise?
The flame fest has been initiated by others.
Because nobody wants to respect our opinions as valid ones, and being able to discuss rahter than force your point with a insult-laden replies, then all of the sudden we're not real fans, we're haters, we're retards, we're dip****, we're morons, we're stupid, etc...
Isn't that what you're referring to?
I don't expect you to admit that, but that's how things have gone here, no?
No. I'm referring to the fact that trolls act like trolls and sooner or later people adjust to them. Your troll behavior in every thread I've seen is why people treat you like a troll.

It's all good though. I enjoy troll baiting sometimes.

Ben

strafen
12-13-2009, 03:51 PM
No. I'm referring to the fact that trolls act like trolls and sooner or later people adjust to them. Your troll behavior in every thread I've seen is why people treat you like a troll.

It's all good though. I enjoy troll baiting sometimes.

BenSo, you are part of the elite here then?
So you are in a position to read other people's post to determine who is a troll and who is not based on you comrades that share your view?
Now, I've been treated like a troll?
By whose account?
Do you want me to accept people's insults and name calling?
It's not going to happen.
I'm not here to participate in a popularity contest where people's credibility is only measured by the amount of posts they have, and not by the content of what they say.
You certainly behave as an elitist of this forum.
I can tell you I won't be losing any sleep longing for your acceptance.

No1BroncoFan
12-13-2009, 03:58 PM
So, you are part of the elite here then?
So you are in a position to read other people's post to determine who is a troll and who is not based on you comrades that share your view?
Now, I've been treated like a troll?
By whose account?
Do you want me to accept people's insults and name calling?
It's not going to happen.
I'm not here to participate in a popularity contest where people's credibility is only measured by the amount of posts they have, and not by the content of what they say.
You certainly behave as an elitist of this forum.
I can tell you I won't be losing any sleep longing for your acceptance.

Me elite? No, I hardly post here any more. It's gotten too full of ****-for-brain trolls like yourself who can't see when they're wrong even when teir nose is rubbed in it. Mostly I just lurk, read a few threads, get sick of the infighting started by the trolls and go elsewhere, like now. Troll baiting is only good for limited fun and you have reached your limit. Aim high though. I'm sure you can be one of the all time great tolls if you just aim high.

strafen
12-13-2009, 04:26 PM
Me elite? No, I hardly post here any more. It's gotten too full of ****-for-brain trolls like yourself who can't see when they're wrong even when teir nose is rubbed in it. Mostly I just lurk, read a few threads, get sick of the infighting started by the trolls and go elsewhere, like now. Troll baiting is only good for limited fun and you have reached your limit. Aim high though. I'm sure you can be one of the all time great tolls if you just aim high.

Again, your post fail to add anything constructive. Your condenscendant comments just says a lot about you.
You still can't go back and show me where I've started a fight, can you?

If I post something that you agree with or not, or anybody else for that matter, I'm not expecting somebody to tell me to suck dick for coke, to grow a brain, to be called retard, to alter my handle name. That shows to me we're dealing with a bunch of 18 year-olds punks.
I'm not going to put up with that.
People use this board to say and get away with things that they otherwise wouldn't have the balls to tell somebody in their faces
This board before I came here, had this reputation of being hostile, so this is nothing new I wasn't expecting.
I knew coming to this board that there would be this kind of nasty debates, name calling, insults, vulgar language, etc...
And you know what, this thread supports that. If you look at who laid those insults first, you can find that there were old-timers of this board, the same people who have cultivated and fostered this ongoing culture for some time, that is now viewed as an acceptable tool to discuss topics here.
Have a good day.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 05:12 PM
Oh, what a zinger. I'm mortally wounded by your rapier wit.

Or not. You shouldn't come to a battle of the wits unarmed. :flower:

Yes you're right and point well taken. I apologize for the cynicism. Wits aside or lack thereof, I'm just frustrated.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 05:20 PM
The I'm rubber your glue argument?

Seriously. Tell me how you believing McDaniels isn't playing Hillis because he's afraid of looking like an idiot is not a conspiracy? The logical and simplest explanation is that Hillis is not getting his reads and assignments right. Yet you continue to believe McDaniels is afraid of looking like an idiot.

Okay Snow, I hear ya! How long did it take for Orton to get his reads right and executing his assignments? The same goes for Moreno as well.

Why not call some plays for Hillis to contribute? Moreno has been allowed to lose 4 fumbles, miss blocking linebackers to protect Orton, he's failed to run the ball consistenly and to pick up first downs! So why does everyone think the Players McD has starting are perfect. The reality is McD's starting RB's have made more errors and missed more assignment than Hillis has. As for Buckhalter, he has missed more games due to injuries than any of the Broncos RB.