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watermock
12-12-2009, 03:29 AM
Choose.

tsiguy96
12-12-2009, 05:26 AM
i cant believe tiger would do **** like that, did he honestly think he could keep it hidden that long given the scrutiny his life is under? im glad he got caught, i like tiger but dont be a ****ing retard and cheat on your wife with 9 other women

Killericon
12-12-2009, 06:06 AM
$20 says Cutler's getting some action on the side.

Pseudofool
12-12-2009, 07:15 AM
Tiger. Womanizing is so not cool.

Sim Pilot 4.0
12-12-2009, 07:15 AM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal

Pony Boy
12-12-2009, 07:23 AM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal

He's married with two kids.... A-wipe. Some of us still hold vows of marriage to be sacred.....

OABB
12-12-2009, 07:27 AM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal

Wow. Society HAS regressed aparrantly.

Kaylore
12-12-2009, 07:29 AM
Tiger hurt his family and his kids, all of whom will have to hear about this the rest of their lives. It's easily Tiger. Saying "he just got some ass on the side" does indeed so far how society has regressed.

loborugger
12-12-2009, 07:38 AM
I am not a golf fan, I am not a celebrity wonk, and I am not a relative of Tiger's wife's family, so it has no relevance in my life. At best, his activity has brought me a little amusement; otherwise, its a none starter as far as I am concerned.

On the other hand, Baby Jay attempted to leave our team in the lurch, whined about dishonesty when he himself was being dishonest, and has generally comported himself in an infantile manner.

So, for me, its Baby Jay by a mile.

Pony Boy
12-12-2009, 07:50 AM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal

Who is the bigger Douchebag: Cutler, Tiger or Sim Pilot 4.0 ?

Los Broncos
12-12-2009, 08:01 AM
Cutler by a hair.

TheDave
12-12-2009, 08:08 AM
Oddly neither of their situations surprise me...

On one side you have a professional athlete who bitched, moaned and demended a trade... sure doesn't make me like the guy, but it's not uncommon.

On the other hand you have a pro athlete who cheated on his wife... not quite as common as water being wet but close.

FWIW tigers transgressions are more douchebaggery-ish... but it is funny to watch some people get their panties in a bunch over it.

Rock Chalk
12-12-2009, 08:12 AM
Tiger is only a douche to his wife and kids, Cutler is a douche to everyone.

I dont care if Tiger cheated. Im not married to him. I didnt take vows with him. His sins are between him, his family, and God and are none of my business.

Cutler however, is douchey to everyone and he is epic fail of a person.

Lev Vyvanse
12-12-2009, 08:12 AM
$20 says Cutler's getting some action on the side.

On the side of what? Olsen?

bowtown
12-12-2009, 08:30 AM
Racists.

DenverBrit
12-12-2009, 08:45 AM
Tiger is only a douche to his wife and kids, Cutler is a douche to everyone.

I dont care if Tiger cheated. Im not married to him. I didnt take vows with him. His sins are between him, his family, and God and are none of my business.

Cutler however, is douchey to everyone and he is epic fail of a person.

Exactly.

People get obsessed with dumping their 'morality' on others, I guess it makes them feel better to point and snicker.

Tiger's indiscretions are none of our business, unlike the hypocrites we elect.

Wes Mantooth
12-12-2009, 08:52 AM
Cutler never said he was sorry.

CHANGSTER
12-12-2009, 08:55 AM
9 you say? Eh, if your gonna cheat might as well shoot for the sky.

I'd venture a guess that not many guys would be able to resist the temptation if they had his life. 10% maybe? That's actually probably a little high.

Killericon
12-12-2009, 08:57 AM
On the side of what? Olsen?

...On the side of the other things he's got going on the side? I dunno.

Anyways, I'm with these guys. Cheating =/= cool. Complaining about your team and demanding a trade may throw your integrity into doubt, but when you cheat on your wife with like, 10 other chicks...There's very little doubt about your integrity.

CHANGSTER
12-12-2009, 08:58 AM
By the way your poll could of pitted Cutler against the Swine Flu and probably had it neck to neck.

orangeatheist
12-12-2009, 09:19 AM
Cutler.

Tiger dissed his wife.

Cutler dissed the Broncos!

I'm pretty sure the latter is one of the deadly sins.

DenverBrit
12-12-2009, 09:34 AM
...On the side of the other things he's got going on the side? I dunno.

Anyways, I'm with these guys. Cheating =/= cool. Complaining about your team and demanding a trade may throw your integrity into doubt, but when you cheat on your wife with like, 10 other chicks...There's very little doubt about your integrity.

Would she have married Tiger if he were a poor janitor?

Or do you think that some women/men gravitate to wealthy, famous personalities?

Ask McCartney.

rbackfactory80
12-12-2009, 10:06 AM
Sorry sleeping with pornstars and escorts shows how selfish Tiger was. He showed no respect to the people that should mean the most to him. That makes him worst. Cutler screwed over a fanbase. They weren't his family.

Ambiguous
12-12-2009, 10:31 AM
If tiger wants to bang some sluts on the side, fine. Cutler's douchebagerry affected something I actually care about, so I guess he wins.

Circle Orange
12-12-2009, 10:34 AM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal

Notice how easy it is to say crazy stuff like that when it isn't your life being screwed up and destroyed? The world isn't a sex magazine or golf tour. And with all the diseases bein' passed around, who wants somebody else's used stuff? He's like the little boy who couldn't get any, so now he's going backwards and paying for it to feed his ego. Cripes, is it in some guideline book that says you gotta do this just because your're a celeb?

I don't give a rats ass about Tiger. Or Cutler, either. http://scosoft.com/s/g/2067cbb.gif

yavoon
12-12-2009, 10:34 AM
i cant believe tiger would do **** like that, did he honestly think he could keep it hidden that long given the scrutiny his life is under? im glad he got caught, i like tiger but dont be a ****ing retard and cheat on your wife with 9 other women

lol 9? it's up to 14. and if it's at 14 who came forward I wouldn't be surprised if the real number is more like 50.

strafen
12-12-2009, 10:44 AM
Who gives a rat's ass?!
Nobody here knows what kind of life Tiger has led all these years.
For starters, the guy probably didn't have a normal childhood or normal teenage years while growing up like we did.

This is the first time he's probably felt independence from his dad, from the pressure of the environment that wanted to mold him into a golf phenom, and what not...
The guy missed out on a lot of the things we took for granted growing up.Of course none of this stuff makes what he did right.But we need to deep a little deeper into his past to understand.

People need to move on and mind their own businessThe media has jumped on this like shark on blood.They can't get enough. The want dude pictures, sex tapes who he slpet with and all that **** to be made public.
This is ****ing wrong, famous or not you or nobody on the face of this planet would like the media, the press, including magazines, TV shows, radio sows to dig into your life to find whatever they can find to make it public, to destroy you, to embarrassed.

Who here would really be ok with that?
Oh, and please don't tell me that if somebody digs into your past, that they may not find stuff on you that you may not want people to know, or at least you have done things that though may not be recorded anywhere, that it may not be in your bwest interest if it was ever made public..

Paladin
12-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Well, in golf, every Course has some holes in it......

TheDave
12-12-2009, 11:06 AM
lol 9? it's up to 14. and if it's at 14 who came forward I wouldn't be surprised if the real number is more like 50.

Rule of 3... in reverse ;D

Archer81
12-12-2009, 11:08 AM
Who gives a rat's ass?!
Nobody here knows what kind of life Tiger has led all this years.
For starters, the guy probably didn't have a normal childhood or normal teenage years while growing up like we did.

This is the first time he's probably felt independent from his dad, from the pressure of the environment that wanted to mold him into a golf phenom, and what not...
The guy missed out on a lot of the things we took for granted growing up.Of course none of this stuff makes what he did right.But we need to deep a little deeper into his past to understand.

People need to move on and mind their own businessThe media has jumped on this like shark on blood.They can't get enough. The want dude pictures, sex tapes who he slpet with and all that **** to be made public.
This is ****ing wrong, famous or not you or nobody on the face of this planet would like the media, the press, including magazines, TV shows, radio sows to dig into your life to find whatever they can find to make it public, to destroy you, to embarrassed.

Who here would really be ok with that?
Oh, and please don't tell me that if somebody digs into your past, that they may not find stuff on you that you may not want people to know, or at least you have done things that though may not be recorded anywhere, that it may not be in your bwest interest if it was ever made public..


Woods is a douche. You dont get married, have two kids and then proceed to have multiple flings around the world simply because "you didnt have a childhood/teen age years". No teen I know ever asked a manager to arrange a specific female archtype to be flown to their hotel while playing a golf tournament in Dubai. This is seriously the Michael Jackson defense. He didnt have a childhood, thats why he is so wierd...Oh, tiger didnt have a childhood, thats why he ****s statuesque blondes with perfect proportions, its not his fault, we simply dont understand...you know if he had a single affair, fine. He needed to blow off steam. He had 11 affairs, some concurrently. So cry me a ****ing river about Tiger acting like a teenager. The mother****er is an adult, what did he expect would happen? No one would ever find out?

Tiger did this to himself. If he doesnt **** around, there is no story and life goes on like normal. Excusing his actions justifies this bull**** behavior.

This what makes Tiger the bigger douche. Cutler is single. He can pork who he likes. Tiger is not. If he wanted to keep running around, the jerkass should never have gotten married.

:Broncos:

yavoon
12-12-2009, 11:10 AM
Rule of 3... in reverse ;D

lawl

TheDave
12-12-2009, 11:18 AM
I'm not excusing his behavior... but I do wonder how faithful some of us normal folk would be if we had the pro athlete groupies hanging around us all the time.

Pick Six
12-12-2009, 11:21 AM
OK...This is a strange comparison. Tiger apparently had multiple women on the side while being married AND setting himself up as a role model for kids. Cutler wanted to pursue other opportunities in the BUSINESS of professional football. There is no comparison. I enjoy watching Cutler fail, but I will NEVER say he's a bigger douche than Tiger...

Orange4Life
12-12-2009, 11:33 AM
Its obvious its tiger. But honestly I don't care care about tiger at one way or another. jay on the other hand has personally done me and my team wrong. Therefore jay gets my vote just because its more personal to me.

strafen
12-12-2009, 11:40 AM
Woods is a douche. You dont get married, have two kids and then proceed to have multiple flings around the world simply because "you didnt have a childhood/teen age years". No teen I know ever asked a manager to arrange a specific female archtype to be flown to their hotel while playing a golf tournament in Dubai. This is seriously the Michael Jackson defense. He didnt have a childhood, thats why he is so wierd...Oh, tiger didnt have a childhood, thats why he ****s statuesque blondes with perfect proportions, its not his fault, we simply dont understand...you know if he had a single affair, fine. He needed to blow off steam. He had 11 affairs, some concurrently. So cry me a ****ing river about Tiger acting like a teenager. The mother****er is an adult, what did he expect would happen? No one would ever find out?

Tiger did this to himself. If he doesnt **** around, there is no story and life goes on like normal. Excusing his actions justifies this bull**** behavior.

This what makes Tiger the bigger douche. Cutler is single. He can pork who he likes. Tiger is not. If he wanted to keep running around, the jerkass should never have gotten married.

:Broncos:

Why would we care?
Why do we need to be so engulfed into this story the way the media has made us to be?

The damage is done. The guy is rich, and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the **** he wants
I'm not going to judge him because he cheated.
Big freakin' deal, oh my God, Tiger cheated on his wife. It would've been ok if it was only with one woman, but oh my God it was with 15 women, oh my God, oh no, this is wrong!!!!
Who gives a ****!
People need to get a life. People cheat all the time, no it's not right, but what are you going to do about it?
Are you going to make this now a crime?

The chances of a man being unfaithful, and wanting to cheat are as good as his options.

strafen
12-12-2009, 11:43 AM
I'm not excusing his behavior... but I do wonder how faithful some of us normal folk would be if we had the pro athlete groupies hanging around us all the time.

Yup, and I bet you that a lot of people talking crap here would be singing a different tune if they were in Tiger's shoes.
Young, good looking, famous, and incredible rich.
What woman would say no to that?
People need to get a life and get real!

yavoon
12-12-2009, 11:48 AM
Why would we care?
Why do we need to be so engulfed into this story the way the media has made us to be?

The damage is done. The guy is rich, and as far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever the **** he wants
I'm not going to judge him because he cheated.
Big freakin' deal, oh my God, Tiger cheated on his wife. It would've been ok if it was only with one woman, but oh my God it was with 15 women, oh my God, oh no, this is wrong!!!!
Who gives a ****!
People need to get a life. People cheat all the time, no it's not right, but what are you going to do about it?
Are you going to make this now a crime?

The chances of a man being unfaithful, and wanting to cheat are as good as his options.

if you care so aggressively little, then why are you in this thread?

enjolras
12-12-2009, 11:50 AM
Tigers issues are between him and his family.

I've never been terribly big on monogamy, however.

strafen
12-12-2009, 11:50 AM
if you care so aggressively little, then why are you in this thread?What kind of stupid statement is that?
WTF?!
By me posting means I'm not caring about what?
I can care one way of the other.
Did you read what I said?
People need to get a life and move on...

yavoon
12-12-2009, 11:52 AM
What kind of stupid statement is that?
WTF?!
By me posting means I'm not caring about what?
I can care one way of the other.
Did you read what I said?
People need to get a life and move on...

you sure are accusing a lot of people of not having a life...does that include yourself?

yavoon
12-12-2009, 11:53 AM
I'm not excusing his behavior... but I do wonder how faithful some of us normal folk would be if we had the pro athlete groupies hanging around us all the time.

certainly more would cheat. but when you cheat you're essentially spitting on your wife, your marriage and the life you've built. the penis is strong, but some men actually love their wives.

rastaman
12-12-2009, 12:24 PM
Cutler.

Tiger dissed his wife.

Cutler dissed the Broncos!

I'm pretty sure the latter is one of the deadly sins.

Meh! Cutler never dissed the Broncos. McD and Bowlen were trying to back the deal to trade Cutler for Cassel long before Cutler demanded to be traded. Trade blew up in Bowlen and McDaniel's face. At first McD lied about it and Bowlen acted as if he never heard about the trade.

Moral of the story is McD and Bowlen learned they couldn't have their "Cake and Eat it Too! If you're going to try and trade your starting QB for another QB you had better make sure you can seal the deal before your starting QB finds out. Because your starting QB just might demand a trade!!!

Los Broncos
12-12-2009, 12:58 PM
He has porn stars on call when he wife was away? $30,000 sex parties in Vegas? wow

OBF1
12-12-2009, 01:10 PM
The poll is titled, "Who is the bigger failure" Put that way it is not even close.

Tiger is the best gold has ever seen, Cutler is a train wreck.

Jay signs a 20 million $$$ contract, Tiger is first athelete to earn 1 billion $$$

Tiger gets chicks, Cutler gets ???

Cutler is a "bigger failure" hands down.

This starter of the thread NEVER EVER mentioned your take on adultery, just a simple who is failure.....

bowtown
12-12-2009, 01:15 PM
The poll is titled, "Who is the bigger failure" Put that way it is not even close.

Tiger is the best gold has ever seen, Cutler is a train wreck.

Jay signs a 20 million $$$ contract, Tiger is first athelete to earn 1 billion $$$

Tiger gets chicks, Cutler gets ???

Cutler is a "bigger failure" hands down.

This starter of the thread NEVER EVER mentioned your take on adultery, just a simple who is failure.....


Actually the poll is "Who is is the bigger fairure." I can only assume that "fairure" is the Asian equivalent of "failure." Tiger is part Asian, therfore he gets the nod on this poll. But to your point Cutler would win for "failure."

OBF1
12-12-2009, 01:19 PM
[quote=bowtown;2672485]actually the poll is "who is is the bigger fairure." i can only assume that "fairure" is the asian equivalent of "failure." tiger is part asian, therfore he gets the nod on this poll. But to your point cutler would win for "failure."[/quote

point taken

Hulamau
12-12-2009, 01:21 PM
$20 says Cutler's getting some action on the side.

Every thing Cutler get is 'on the side' ... he isn't married

bowtown
12-12-2009, 01:24 PM
Every thing Cutler get is 'on the side' ... he isn't married

Plus I heard he has a vagina on his left hip.

broncocalijohn
12-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Personally, it is Cutler. For society, by far Tiger gets the award. I dont watch golf and even though I have a little interest in seeing a native Orange County guy do good in golf, Cutler is more personal given he played for my favorite team and he is the original known douche of the two. Cutler can womanize if he chooses as he is not married. Tiger has a family responsibility and has not honored it. Dude gets douche points for not wearing a rubber and possibly getting one of these whores pregnant costing him millions and embarrassing his family and himself. He does score a few pos points for giving these girls nothing in return (except those call girls that he paid big bucks for). Tiger should get the douchey award between the two. The Mane Douchey Award still goes to either Broncofan7, Lex or Rastaman. I guess we will have that vote after the season is over.

broncocalijohn
12-12-2009, 01:50 PM
Who gives a rat's ass?!
Nobody here knows what kind of life Tiger has led all these years.
For starters, the guy probably didn't have a normal childhood or normal teenage years while growing up like we did.

This is the first time he's probably felt independence from his dad, from the pressure of the environment that wanted to mold him into a golf phenom, and what not...
The guy missed out on a lot of the things we took for granted growing up.Of course none of this stuff makes what he did right.But we need to deep a little deeper into his past to understand.

People need to move on and mind their own businessThe media has jumped on this like shark on blood.They can't get enough. The want dude pictures, sex tapes who he slpet with and all that **** to be made public.
This is ****ing wrong, famous or not you or nobody on the face of this planet would like the media, the press, including magazines, TV shows, radio sows to dig into your life to find whatever they can find to make it public, to destroy you, to embarrassed.

Who here would really be ok with that?
Oh, and please don't tell me that if somebody digs into your past, that they may not find stuff on you that you may not want people to know, or at least you have done things that though may not be recorded anywhere, that it may not be in your bwest interest if it was ever made public..

dragster sucks in so many different threads it is really reveling. Dont make excuses for the guy. Tiger should never have committed to marriage. I think his Dad was dead before he got married. Even if not, he is a big boy and could have been the coolest bachelor around. Instead, he ruined his marriage. He never had to go that far. It seems he would rather golf and have sex....with many women.

SportinOne
12-12-2009, 01:52 PM
The higher the socioeconomic status, the more you are going to see extra-marital sex. Why? i would guess because:

A. The person who is financially flexible has much less to lose from separation in the event that his or her spouse finds out. Someone with less money might not risk that because divorce and the subsequent cost of living single would cost more than they can afford, or at least more than they are willing to spend.

and

B. A person who has a higher social status meets a lot more people than someone of a lower status. There is more temptation. The chances of finding the right person (or in tiger's case, 10+ right people) to engage in an affair with are much higher.

A + B = Why the rich can be so darn naughty.

But then you have this:

Tiger's celebrity status = power = C


Why did Tiger have so many mistresses? It's simple math.

((A+B)C) to the power of Just Do It!

Mile High Mojoe
12-12-2009, 02:22 PM
You're kidding Mock? This is a no brainer. Woods has disgraced himself, his family, his race and the game of golf.

It's to bad that we can't have one sporting hero who can be a stand up guy not just in his choosen game but in his personal life as well.

Cutler is a meaningless midget by comparision.

Mile High Mojoe
12-12-2009, 02:40 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/gomilehigh/sk1209j20091209040308.jpg

SportinOne
12-12-2009, 03:03 PM
at the same time... there are tons of well-respected people out there who just haven't gotten caught yet, and they might never. Before Tiger got caught, 9 out of 10 people would have said that he was a great person, inspirational, and a role model for young people. Not everyone is cheating, but no one is perfect.

Hogan11
12-12-2009, 03:09 PM
The Tiger Woods circus has the potential to set the sport of golf back years (he's directly responsible for golf's rise in popularity since coming on the scene and he's allegedly already quit).....but I never liked golf anyways and watching it on TV is like watching paint dry, so I'll go with Cutler

Mile High Mojoe
12-12-2009, 03:30 PM
at the same time... there are tons of well-respected people out there who just haven't gotten caught yet, and they might never. Before Tiger got caught, 9 out of 10 people would have said that he was a great person, inspirational, and a role model for young people. Not everyone is cheating, but no one is perfect.No one is perfect I agree but this goes beyond that, he's a serial adulterer, not 1 but 12 at last count. He's an extremely confused and mixed up person, you can't have much sympathy for a guy this wreckless. Getting caught is no excuse or saying others do it too make his kids feel any better.

Bronco Yoda
12-12-2009, 03:55 PM
I never could understand how people could watch golf. Sorta like watching someone Bowl. Both are fun to do with your friends and some drinks. But to watch someone else do it?

strafen
12-12-2009, 04:02 PM
dragster sucks in so many different threads it is really reveling. Dont make excuses for the guy. Tiger should never have committed to marriage. I think his Dad was dead before he got married. Even if not, he is a big boy and could have been the coolest bachelor around. Instead, he ruined his marriage. He never had to go that far. It seems he would rather golf and have sex....with many women.Why do I suck?
Because I don't agree with what you agree makes me wrong?
What makes you right that makes me be wrong?
The fact of the matter is this is a marital issue.
What Tiger did is wrong, but this is not for us to worry about it, he needs to make amends with his wife and kids, not with the media or anybody else outside his family circle.
As far as the public opinion, he has already admitted his transgressions, he said he's been unfaithful to his wife. End of story there.
What else do you want happen to the guy?

colonelbeef
12-12-2009, 04:21 PM
He's married with two kids.... A-wipe. Some of us still hold vows of marriage to be sacred.....

roughly 40%

marriage as an institution did it's job, but it will never regain the popular sentiment that it once had

yavoon
12-12-2009, 04:45 PM
The higher the socioeconomic status, the more you are going to see extra-marital sex. Why? i would guess because:

A. The person who is financially flexible has much less to lose from separation in the event that his or her spouse finds out. Someone with less money might not risk that because divorce and the subsequent cost of living single would cost more than they can afford, or at least more than they are willing to spend.

and

B. A person who has a higher social status meets a lot more people than someone of a lower status. There is more temptation. The chances of finding the right person (or in tiger's case, 10+ right people) to engage in an affair with are much higher.

A + B = Why the rich can be so darn naughty.

But then you have this:

Tiger's celebrity status = power = C


Why did Tiger have so many mistresses? It's simple math.

((A+B)C) to the power of Just Do It!

I think there's another very important factor you're leaving out. Narcissism. The inability to emotionally identify with your wife. the elevation of your own feelings above those of others.

maybe we can blame nike for its tiger advertising campaigns. but you need more than just "opportunity" to become a serial adulterer, you need a healthy supply of narcissism.

DenverBrit
12-12-2009, 04:48 PM
A lot of angst over another's personal life.

A lot of people acting as if it's their business. It's not.

Tiger didn't do anything illegal, his transgressions are between him and his family.

There's nothing for a bunch of nosy neighbors or celebrity junkies to see here.

When you look in the mirror and see perfection, expect it elsewhere. :peace:

Sodak
12-12-2009, 04:50 PM
Who cares about either of them? This thread is pointless.

DarkHorse30
12-12-2009, 05:16 PM
Cutler is just a talented idiot.....no harm no foul

Tiger, otoh, is an icon. Big difference.

Liars (and anybody who takes a vow and cheats qualifies) deserve what they get.

I think it's good that he's ashamed of himself. At least he's not like some that blame it on the culture or on everybody else.

Great golfer, poor sport, and a cheat. Like Belicheat, he will likely be remember for all of it. Too bad for him.

DarkHorse30
12-12-2009, 05:20 PM
A lot of angst over another's personal life.

A lot of people acting as if it's their business. It's not.

Tiger didn't do anything illegal, his transgressions are between him and his family.

There's nothing for a bunch of nosy neighbors or celebrity junkies to see here.

When you look in the mirror and see perfection, expect it elsewhere. :peace:

There is a different set of rules for famous people. I could care less what YOU do, DenverBrit, because you're not on sportscenter with your problems every day. If you were, I'd judge you too, because it IS my business when ESPN updates me every hour on the hour.

I think the "holier than thou" arguement is crap. With that kind of an attitude, we wouldn't have jails, and NOTHING would be illegal.

DenverBrit
12-12-2009, 06:25 PM
There is a different set of rules for famous people. I could care less what YOU do, DenverBrit, because you're not on sportscenter with your problems every day. If you were, I'd judge you too, because it IS my business when ESPN updates me every hour on the hour.

I think the "holier than thou" arguement is crap. With that kind of an attitude, we wouldn't have jails, and NOTHING would be illegal.

So the details of people's personal lives are your business because they're on sportscenter?? Hilarious!

Time to understand that the celebrity obsession is nothing more than that....an obsession.

And "nothing would be illegal" if we didn't get into others people's personal business and make morality judgments?? You must be joking!

No crime was committed, except in the eyes of the morality police

Again, check the mirror...do you see perfection??

TheDave
12-12-2009, 06:29 PM
Again, check the mirror...do you see perfection??

As a matter of fact... Yes I do. :thumbs:

DenverBrit
12-12-2009, 06:30 PM
As a matter of fact... Yes I do. :thumbs:

Then you can expect it elsewhere. Ha!

rastaman
12-12-2009, 07:23 PM
There is a different set of rules for famous people. I could care less what YOU do, DenverBrit, because you're not on sportscenter with your problems every day. If you were, I'd judge you too, because it IS my business when ESPN updates me every hour on the hour.

I think the "holier than thou" arguement is crap. With that kind of an attitude, we wouldn't have jails, and NOTHING would be illegal.[/QUOTE]

Spoken like true narrow minded CONSERVATARD! Tell me something....what makes you think normal people want to behave like closed minded-narrow thinking Conservative?

Why do Conservatives assume everyone should have a Conservative Ideological marriage with all the Bible Freak Trimmings to go along with it???

We have Jails today b/c Conservative Ideologues figured out a way to Corporatized America prison system to gain pure profitt! Nothing more and nothing less.

Tiger hasn't broken any laws and he should have the necessary privacy to deal with his transgressions and marriage on his own terms. The Holier-Than-Thou-Conservative Public needs to mind their GOD DAMNED business.

Golf Needs Tiger---More Than Tiger Needs Golf.

Lastly, Tiger sticks the middle finger up every-time a knuckle head conservative open their mouth with their 19th Century opinions

broncocalijohn
12-12-2009, 07:31 PM
There is a different set of rules for famous people. I could care less what YOU do, DenverBrit, because you're not on sportscenter with your problems every day. If you were, I'd judge you too, because it IS my business when ESPN updates me every hour on the hour.

I think the "holier than thou" arguement is crap. With that kind of an attitude, we wouldn't have jails, and NOTHING would be illegal.

Spoken like true narrow minded CONSERVATARD! Tell me something....what makes you think normal people want to behave like closed minded-narrow thinking Conservative?

Why do Conservatives assume everyone should have a Conservative Ideological marriage with all the Bible Freak Trimmings to go along with it???

We have Jails today b/c Conservative Ideologues figured out a way to Corporatized America prison system to gain pure profitt! Nothing more and nothing less.
Tiger hasn't broken any laws and he should have the necessary privacy to deal with his transgressions and marriage on his own terms. The Holier-Than-Thou-Conservative Public needs to mind their GOD DAMNED business.

Golf Needs Tiger---More Than Tiger Needs Golf.

Lastly, Tiger sticks the middle finger up every-time a knuckle head conservative open their mouth with their 19th Century opinions

I was giving up on this thread until i saw Rasta as the last poster. Could he make sense? Does he have an actual intelligent comment to make? Nope. I highlighted this gem of his about jails. That is it. Conservatives made jails. Liberals waaaaay back in the day loved criminals and wanted them to run around the streets and terrorize towns. There was big time profit in those jails long time ago. In fact my great grandpa made a fortune on the Salem Jail Corporation. Would have made more but those Ultra Conservatives decided to burn those witches instead of keeping in life imprisonment and be able to charge for years of serving the prisoners. One of the first private prisons! It caught on everywhere. I feel sorry for those prison guards making a crap load through their Unions thanks to elected official paybacks. BTW, Rasta, no one has said he should be arrested. THe question was, who is a bigger douche, Tiger or Cutler? If you could be thrown in jail for being a douche, you would be there a long time ago. I am still waiting for a topic that you actually can make either a correct prediction or know something about the topic at hand. Nice try on the politcal points on a subject just based on doucheness.

Archer81
12-12-2009, 09:57 PM
Spoken like true narrow minded CONSERVATARD! Tell me something....what makes you think normal people want to behave like closed minded-narrow thinking Conservative?

Why do Conservatives assume everyone should have a Conservative Ideological marriage with all the Bible Freak Trimmings to go along with it???

We have Jails today b/c Conservative Ideologues figured out a way to Corporatized America prison system to gain pure profitt! Nothing more and nothing less.

Tiger hasn't broken any laws and he should have the necessary privacy to deal with his transgressions and marriage on his own terms. The Holier-Than-Thou-Conservative Public needs to mind their GOD DAMNED business.

Golf Needs Tiger---More Than Tiger Needs Golf.

Lastly, Tiger sticks the middle finger up every-time a knuckle head conservative open their mouth with their 19th Century opinions

1. Historically, marriage has been between one man and one woman. This idea is older than the 19th century, and far older then American conservatism.

2. We have jails because we need some place to house criminals. For such an "open minded" dude, you sure seem to favor the biblical eye for an eye concepts.

3. Tiger is a public figure. That comes with him playing a game that garners him alot of money. Anything he does is magnified and eviscerated. Having others arrange meets with hookers and pornstars is a moral failure of those involved. And before you launch into a typical Rasta response, Apparently his wife was not cool with Woods ****ing every Barbie-esque golf groupie, which means that she obviously took her marriage vows seriously enough to be offended when she found out her husband is a manslut.

4. Golf existed before Tiger Woods, and will exist after he is gone. Maybe golf would be better off if Woods just retires now.

5. Do you assign no blame to Woods at all? Or is blame another 19th century concept?

You are possibly the dumbest man/bear/pig alive. We are now all dumber for having read your posts in this thread, and every other thread you have posted in.

:Broncos:

DarkHorse30
12-12-2009, 09:58 PM
Lastly, Tiger sticks the middle finger up every-time a knuckle head conservative open their mouth with their 19th Century opinions

What makes you think Tiger isn't a conservative?

If you insist on making this personnel, then you are on your own. Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing for everybody.

uplink
12-12-2009, 10:04 PM
This is how far society has regressed. Tiger woods got some ass on the side big deal
agree, its his own business

baja
12-12-2009, 10:43 PM
They are both good examples of what happens when the ego is running the show.

huh??
12-12-2009, 11:54 PM
Cutler never said he was sorry.

Trooooo Dat!!! :yayaya:

UberBroncoMan
12-13-2009, 12:37 AM
Tiger... not even the tiniest bit close.

Cutler may whine and **** but he's not a ****ing man whore ****ing other whores.

Smiling Assassin27
12-13-2009, 05:04 AM
He's married with two kids.... A-wipe. Some of us still hold vows of marriage to be sacred.....

Hell, forget 'sacred'. Even if there's NO religious element involved, it's still an agreement with a person that is unlike any other. Tiger's got a skank in every town, and THAT is not only a breach of the agreement that marriage is, but on an exponential scale.

Cutler's a jerk, but there's a huge difference between throwing your teammates under the bus in the press and throwing your spouse under the bus in a way that EVERYONE knows but her. Tiger's officially made Elin look like a fool on the biggest stage in the world. Douchebag of the highest magnitude.

Ramathorn
12-13-2009, 06:20 AM
gotta be tiger, cause there is a kid involved and hes gonna rip that family apart. 100% douchebucket

Hogan11
12-13-2009, 07:21 AM
4. Golf existed before Tiger Woods, and will exist after he is gone. Maybe golf would be better off if Woods just retires now.

:Broncos:

Actually, RastaBoras is right when he says Golf needs Tiger Woods. While it is true that the sport existed before his arrival, it didn't exist on such a grand media scale pre-Woods. Whether or not one cares about his marital transgressions (I don't) I don't think you can gloss over the notion that the whole affair and his disappearance from the sport could set it back a good 20 years coverage-wise....Woods was that big and important to Pro Golf.

baja
12-13-2009, 07:48 AM
I haven't read this all this thread but it looks like in the few posts I did read Tiger is getting the Bill Clinton treatment where as he is being judged by people that have no business doing so. As with Clinton this is a matter for Tiger and his family

More death and destruction is caused by self righteousness that any other cause.

People it's none of your business.

ScottXray
12-13-2009, 08:34 AM
He's married with two kids.... A-wipe. Some of us still hold vows of marriage to be sacred.....

Have to agree. Cutler is bigger at fail. Tiger is the GOAT at his profession.

Vows are something that too many people don't take seriously enough.

When you take a vow, then break it you are hurting others , but more than anything you are be-littling yourself, and YOU are the one that knows you are a lier and fake. That eventually gets to the surface.

rastaman
12-13-2009, 09:25 AM
I was giving up on this thread until i saw Rasta as the last poster. Could he make sense? Does he have an actual intelligent comment to make? Nope.

Oh get over yourself! Does your opinionated conservative perspective make anymore sense? After all we are talking about an out dated ideology thats only supported by a ever dwindling segment of society. There is nothing intelligent about conservatism in general b/c you guys are trying to conserve an out dated way of thinking and lifestyle. And actually get pissed off b/c when your ideology is made irrelevant and joked about.


I highlighted this gem of his about jails. That is it. Conservatives made jails. Liberals waaaaay back in the day loved criminals and wanted them to run around the streets and terrorize towns. There was big time profit in those jails long time ago. In fact my great grandpa made a fortune on the Salem Jail Corporation. Would have made more but those Ultra Conservatives decided to burn those witches instead of keeping in life imprisonment and be able to charge for years of serving the prisoners. One of the first private prisons! It caught on everywhere. I feel sorry for those prison guards making a crap load through their Unions thanks to elected official paybacks.

Your cynicism sucks and is w/o creativity, but I'm not surprised b/c you can't help it that your are cursed with the conservative Gene devoid of originality. Republican-Corporate Conservative supported prison system we see in America TODAY, got its birth in the 1980's when the Reagan Revolution began. This began the era of Republican Corporatization America's prison system for profit and to reflect conservative gulag ideology. As a result, America has over 2 million people in prison today. More than any industrialized nation in the world. Can one say welcome "Conservative America" at its best! The facts are American society has been polluted and over run by closed minded-narrow thinking Conservatives who descended upon America with their fake religion, deep seated generational hate and with the attitude that "Man" in general are evil; especially liberals or liberalism. Conservatism isn't natural and its not an ideology suited for the 21st Century.

BTW, Rasta, no one has said he should be arrested. THe question was, who is a bigger douche, Tiger or Cutler? If you could be thrown in jail for being a douche, you would be there a long time ago. I am still waiting for a topic that you actually can make either a correct prediction or know something about the topic at hand. Nice try on the politcal points on a subject just based on doucheness.

BTW, Broncoliljohn, you do realize the opinions about Tiger are comments/beliefs from a Conservative perspective about how someone should behave! Infidelity-Marriage-affairs etc are all comments thus far about how Tiger should behave is mainly from a conservative perspective! And of course it couldn't be more hilarious or hypocritical. Its Tigers life and he needs to deal with whatever problems he's facing w/o the judgment of "CONSERVATIVE GROUP THINK AND BELIEFS"!

rastaman
12-13-2009, 09:27 AM
Actually, RastaBoras is right when he says Golf needs Tiger Woods. While it is true that the sport existed before his arrival, it didn't exist on such a grand media scale pre-Woods. Whether or not one cares about his marital transgressions (I don't) I don't think you can gloss over the notion that the whole affair and his disappearance from the sport could set it back a good 20 years coverage-wise....Woods was that big and important to Pro Golf.

Well HOGHEAD-HOGAN.....couldn't agree with you more!!!:thumbs:

gunns
12-13-2009, 12:40 PM
I haven't read this all this thread but it looks like in the few posts I did read Tiger is getting the Bill Clinton treatment where as he is being judged by people that have no business doing so. As with Clinton this is a matter for Tiger and his family

More death and destruction is caused by self righteousness that any other cause.

People it's none of your business.

While the actions of Jay and Tiger didn't have any affect on me I do know the pain and anger Tiger's wife is feeling. And it's a much grander scale than, say, Lex's pain and anger over Jay. His wife will have to struggle with trust issues, if she decides to stay with him, possibly forever and it has put a permanent crimp in their marriage. Plus she will look at herself and wonder why. While I agree that it's none of our business and they need to work it out with each other, I can comment on the affect Tigers actions had and they do not compare to what Jay did.

baja
12-13-2009, 01:31 PM
While the actions of Jay and Tiger didn't have any affect on me I do know the pain and anger Tiger's wife is feeling. And it's a much grander scale than, say, Lex's pain and anger over Jay. His wife will have to struggle with trust issues, if she decides to stay with him, possibly forever and it has put a permanent crimp in their marriage. Plus she will look at herself and wonder why. While I agree that it's none of our business and they need to work it out with each other, I can comment on the affect Tigers actions had and they do not compare to what Jay did.

If the circumstances proved to be as clear cut as you say than yes. My point is only Tiger and his wife know the whole story and we all should refrain from assuming we can make an accurate judgment.

We don't know what the true story is with Tiger, hell we don't even know what exactly went down with Jay for that matter.

SoCalBronco
12-13-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm not sure how Jay is a douchebag at all.....so I would go with Tiger.

BroncoDoug
12-17-2009, 01:11 AM
Didn't feel like making a new thread for this but Billick not too fond of Cutler at the moment

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/7471/have-at-it-will-cutler-make-it

Most notably, Billick said Cutler is “beginning to feel Jeff Georgish.” Yikes. The reference, of course, is to former NFL quarterback Jeff George -- the No. 1 overall pick in 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GeorJe00.htm) who was known more for his strong arm than he was for winning games. His career record as a starter was 46-78.

yavoon
12-17-2009, 01:36 AM
now tiger is linked to hgh doctor under investigation. it just went from bad to nuclear.

Traveler
12-17-2009, 03:05 AM
I'm not excusing his behavior... but I do wonder how faithful some of us normal folk would be if we had the pro athlete groupies hanging around us all the time.

This!

I've had the opportunity to "witness" first hand the temptation and affect that groupies have on professional athletes. Not excusing what Tiger did, just understand how he probably got caught up.

Captain 'Dre
12-17-2009, 08:25 AM
I am not a golf fan, I am not a celebrity wonk, and I am not a relative of Tiger's wife's family, so it has no relevance in my life. At best, his activity has brought me a little amusement; otherwise, its a none starter as far as I am concerned.

On the other hand, Baby Jay attempted to leave our team in the lurch, whined about dishonesty when he himself was being dishonest, and has generally comported himself in an infantile manner.

So, for me, its Baby Jay by a mile.

Concur.

Tiger shows a character problem, getting into serial affairs. But at least he can comport himself appropriately with dealing with the media.

Jay, on the other hand... shows character problems by blaming teammates and throwing others under the bus, and then acts like a total putz in front of the media.

TonyR
12-17-2009, 08:44 AM
While the actions of Jay and Tiger didn't have any affect on me I do know the pain and anger Tiger's wife is feeling.

Plus the fact that her personal problems are a huge, public spectacle. So not only is her busband whoring around behind her back while she's home with young children but it's a topic of conversation at everyone's holiday party and plastered all over every news media. Can't be fun.

Tiger's first, and perhaps biggest, mistake was getting married and having children. As I said in a previous thread, everyone should think long and hard before committing themselves to one persion. When you're young, wealthy and powerful you should think that much longer and harder. And the sad thing is that his kids are the biggest losers in this whole thing.

DenverBrit
12-17-2009, 08:56 AM
A report yesterday had his wife seeking a divorce and between $50-$75 million.

That should help the pain. ;D

Mountain Bronco
12-17-2009, 09:33 AM
Moral police are the house!!!!

DenverBrit
12-17-2009, 10:07 AM
While the actions of Jay and Tiger didn't have any affect on me I do know the pain and anger Tiger's wife is feeling. And it's a much grander scale than, say, Lex's pain and anger over Jay. His wife will have to struggle with trust issues, if she decides to stay with him, possibly forever and it has put a permanent crimp in their marriage. Plus she will look at herself and wonder why. While I agree that it's none of our business and they need to work it out with each other, I can comment on the affect Tigers actions had and they do not compare to what Jay did.

Do you think there's the possibility that she knew what she was getting into?

Billionaire marriages are not like those of us mortals.

The pre-nup alone is usually a contract of epic proportions and lawyers on both sides will counsel on the pitfalls of marrying a wealthy celebrity.

Tiger's celebrity status may have been a major attraction for her.

Bottom line.....we don't know and even if we do, it's really none of our business. :peace:

Irish Stout
12-17-2009, 10:38 AM
Regardless of your position on this, ultimately Jay's douchebaggery got the Broncos a few perks and whats looking like a decent pick next April. So his douchebaggery really hasn't hurt anyone in the long run, except maybe Jay himself.

Tiger's douchebaggery is hurting a pretty blonde woman and little children... they'll likely be scarred forever. The argument could be made that his douchebaggery will also have reprecussions (small ones) on the sport he is in. Also, a weak argument could be made that his actions might cause a possible ( VERY VERY VERy VEry Very very minor) setback for racial equality.

Any dead-beat Dad or cheating father is a bigger Dbag than Cutler, even if Cutler butt-hurt more of us than those dirtbag fathers.

Rohirrim
12-17-2009, 11:06 AM
I don't agree with the idea that this is nobody else's business. It's everybody else's business. If you take the actions necessary to become famous, you become an actor on the world stage. Your actions become a commentary on your society, whether you like it or not. If there is one thing humans have always loved, it's a story. If we went back to the dawn of time we would probably find some hunter who was revered by the tribe and he held the standard of his society before the gods. He represented his people. If he failed, it meant something. What is the Odyssey but a story about a great warrior and his struggle to get back home to his wife? Tiger has broken a taboo. So did Cutler. So did Leiberman. Three different stories. Three different violations of taboo. Three betrayals. We are fascinated by these stories because, on one level, they support some of our most sacred beliefs about loyalty and respect and the laws that hold us together. We watch because we know the end of the story will be punishment and retribution and the melodrama of remorse and repatriation of the offender, or his destruction. And we will feel strengthened because the punishment will uphold our sense of community - you can't violate the taboos with impunity.




Or not. ;D

DenverBrit
12-17-2009, 11:15 AM
I don't agree with the idea that this is nobody else's business. It's everybody else's business. If you take the actions necessary to become famous, you become an actor on the world stage. Your actions become a commentary on your society, whether you like it or not. If there is one thing humans have always loved, it's a story. If we went back to the dawn of time we would probably find some hunter who was revered by the tribe and he held the standard of his society before the gods. He represented his people. If he failed, it meant something. What is the Odyssey but a story about a great warrior and his struggle to get back home to his wife? Tiger has broken a taboo. So did Cutler. So did Leiberman. Three different stories. Three different violations of taboo. Three betrayals. We are fascinated by these stories because, on one level, they support some of our most sacred beliefs about loyalty and respect and the laws that hold us together. We watch because we know the end of the story will be punishment and retribution and the melodrama of remorse and repatriation of the offender, or his destruction. And we will feel strengthened because the punishment will uphold our sense of community - you can't violate the taboos with impunity.




Or not. ;D

Nah, we're just being nosy! ;D

There was a time when Gandhi, MLK, Pres. Kennedy etc. were revered and people didn't go out of their way to trash them relentlessly or poke around their lives like dumpster divers.

Our obsession with other people's lives says more about us than we care to admit.

yavoon
12-17-2009, 11:24 AM
why do so many people who are so convinced its none of their business constantly post in this thread. wouldn't the logical action to take under that conviction be....oh I don't know....not post?

Rohirrim
12-17-2009, 11:34 AM
Nah, we're just being nosy! ;D

There was a time when Gandhi, MLK, Pres. Kennedy etc. were revered and people didn't go out of their way to trash them relentlessly or poke around their lives like dumpster divers.

Our obsession with other people's lives says more about us than we care to admit.

It's the 24/7 news cycle. This is Ted Turner's fault. ;D

baja
12-17-2009, 01:52 PM
Damn I go to my ranch for a few days and come back and this bull shiit is still on the front page, where the hell are the Cutler threads. Oh I guess this is a 1/2 Cutler thread so never mind carry on.

DeusExManning
12-17-2009, 02:03 PM
As stated in this weeks Rolling Stone Jay Cutler - The NFL Superdouche

Rigs11
12-17-2009, 03:34 PM
Tiger is. His wife is hot.

Los Broncos
12-17-2009, 03:47 PM
Tiger is. His wife is hot.

Soon to be ex-wife.

Circle Orange
12-17-2009, 05:35 PM
A report yesterday had his wife seeking a divorce and between $50-$75 million.

That should help the pain. ;D

But not the humiliation and sense of failure.

Circle Orange
12-17-2009, 05:36 PM
Tiger is. His wife is hot.

Apparently, that wasn't enough. It never is.

baja
12-17-2009, 05:41 PM
But not the humiliation and sense of failure.

I think you and gunns are imposing your personal experiences or that of a friend or family member onto the Tiger Woods story because the truth is you have no idea how she feels. Maybe she hated him or married him for his money and there was no love between them. Point is you don't know and you are judging him on what you think you would feel had it be you that was "betrayed". Get the facts!

Circle Orange
12-17-2009, 07:39 PM
I think you and gunns are imposing your personal experiences or that of a friend or family member onto the Tiger Woods story because the truth is you have no idea how she feels. Maybe she hated him or married him for his money and there was no love between them. Point is you don't know and you are judging him on what you think you would feel had it be you that was "betrayed". Get the facts!

I'm not really judging anyone, but I wonder at all the glib comments just because people have a lot of money. Whatever her motivations are were irrelevent. If Tiger wanted to do this, he should never have gotten married! No one forced him. It's clear he has mental issues sleeping around like this. He reminds me of those repressed people growing up that go crazy later on.

DenverBrit
12-17-2009, 08:55 PM
But not the humiliation and sense of failure.


Nah, $50-$75 mill will more than compensate for any 'failure' she might be feeling.

It's in the pre-nup, so the 'price of failure' was settled years ago.

baja
12-17-2009, 09:11 PM
I'm not really judging anyone, but I wonder at all the glib comments just because people have a lot of money. Whatever her motivations are were irrelevent. If Tiger wanted to do this, he should never have gotten married! No one forced him. It's clear he has mental issues sleeping around like this. He reminds me of those repressed people growing up that go crazy later on.

Honestly I don't even know the story, what I do understand though is it is a matter for him and his family.

DenverBrit
12-18-2009, 09:55 AM
I'm not really judging anyone, but I wonder at all the glib comments just because people have a lot of money. Whatever her motivations are were irrelevent. If Tiger wanted to do this, he should never have gotten married! No one forced him. It's clear he has mental issues sleeping around like this. He reminds me of those repressed people growing up that go crazy later on.

Sorry, but. Hilarious!

;D

Circle Orange
12-18-2009, 07:29 PM
Sorry, but. Hilarious!

;D

Oh, stop it. SNAP! :thumbsup:

Dudeskey
12-18-2009, 07:30 PM
LOL Cutler seems to be pulling away

watermock
12-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Both have money.

Even they didn't, the question wasn't about money anyway.

watermock
12-18-2009, 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by baja
I haven't read this all this thread but it looks like in the few posts I did read Tiger is getting the Bill Clinton treatment where as he is being judged by people that have no business doing so. As with Clinton this is a matter for Tiger and his family

More death and destruction is caused by self righteousness that any other cause.

People it's none of your business..

OBTW, he has no family now. 'cept for child support and alimony.

Just lawyers.

And along list of sluts.