Remember Iraq?

[Rohirrim]

If this is true, it goes down in history as the most singular act of buffoonery of all time. Of course, what would you expect from George Bush? And yet, it is also a horrific tragedy because of the loss of life caused by this act of monumental stupidity.

It sounds like a bad joke but it may be a true story: one of the most sensational claims made by the British government in the run-up to the Iraq War about Saddam Hussein’s supposed weapons of mass destruction may have come from an Iraqi taxi driver based on a conversation he overheard from passengers in his backseat two years earlier.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2009/12/08/was-taxi-driver-source-for-key-saddam-wmd-claim.aspx

[Dukes]

That's some quality intel right there.

[gyldenlove]

At least that is better than if they made the whole thing up, not much better though.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

A cab driver?

Hey - that isn't too far removed from, say, a landscaper. ;)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Related:

Poll: 49% of Americans think U.S. should mind its own business internationally

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<!-- The article content --> According to a poll released on Dec. 3 by The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, almost half of Americans believe that the U.S. should “mind its own business internationally” and step out of other countries’ affairs.

In 1964, the institute found that only 18 percent of Americans supported such an isolationist approach. For the first time in more than 40 years of polling, a plurality (49%) says the United States should let other countries get along the best they can on their own and not interfere in their affairs. In December 2002, just 30% agreed with this statement.

If President Obama is looking for something that transcends the left/right, conservative/liberal divisions over health care reform and Afghanistan policy, he might try isolationism. This finding marks the first time in four decades that such a large number of Americans oppose US foreign policies.

Back in 1935, a Marine who won the Congressional Medal of Honor twice, Gen. Smedley Butler said, “We must take the profit out of war. We must permit the youth of the land who would bear arms to decide whether or not there should be war. We must limit our military to home defense purposes.”

Perhaps spending billions on rebuilding the American economy instead of bombing, occupying and rebuilding countries on the other side of the globe would generate higher approval ratings for Obama, save lives, help restore our image among the international community, and help Americans.

Read more here: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-23316-Madison-Independent-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Poll-49-of-Americans-think-US-should-mind-its-own-business-internationally (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-23316-Madison-Independent-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d4-Poll-49-of-Americans-think-US-should-mind-its-own-business-internationally)

[Dukes]

Related:

Poll: 49% of Americans think U.S. should mind its own business internationally

<!-- Print the time the article was posted --> Excerpt:

<!-- The article content --> According to a poll released on Dec. 3 by The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, almost half of Americans believe that the U.S. should “mind its own business internationally” and step out of other countries’ affairs.

In 1964, the institute found that only 18 percent of Americans supported such an isolationist approach. For the first time in more than 40 years of polling, a plurality (49%) says the United States should let other countries get along the best they can on their own and not interfere in their affairs. In December 2002, just 30% agreed with this statement.

If President Obama is looking for something that transcends the left/right, conservative/liberal divisions over health care reform and Afghanistan policy, he might try isolationism. This finding marks the first time in four decades that such a large number of Americans oppose US foreign policies.

Back in 1935, a Marine who won the Congressional Medal of Honor twice, Gen. Smedley Butler said, “We must take the profit out of war. We must permit the youth of the land who would bear arms to decide whether or not there should be war. We must limit our military to home defense purposes.”

Perhaps spending billions on rebuilding the American economy instead of bombing, occupying and rebuilding countries on the other side of the globe would generate higher approval ratings for Obama, save lives, help restore our image among the international community, and help Americans.

Read more here: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-23316-Madison-Independent-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Poll-49-of-Americans-think-US-should-mind-its-own-business-internationally (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-23316-Madison-Independent-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d4-Poll-49-of-Americans-think-US-should-mind-its-own-business-internationally)

I think it's higher than 49%

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think it's higher than 49%

Probably so.

Still, 49% is pretty remarkable compared to 18% in 1964.

[Dukes]

Count me in on the 49%. We aren't the worlds police force

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

^ Me too - especially when the writer puts it this way:

Perhaps spending billions on rebuilding the American economy instead of bombing, occupying and rebuilding countries on the other side of the globe would generate higher approval ratings for Obama, save lives, help restore our image among the international community, and help Americans.

[Rohirrim]

Perhaps spending billions on rebuilding the American economy instead of bombing, occupying and rebuilding countries on the other side of the globe would generate higher approval ratings for Obama, save lives, help restore our image among the international community, and help Americans

What a bizarre concept.

BTW, I think the press deliberately mislabels this idea by using the word "isolationism" as if it is some kind of medical quarantine. Nobody wants to isolate themselves from the world. We just want to stop being their one-stop solve-all-your-problems depot.

[Dukes]

One funny part about that is, as soon as the **** hits the fan, they would come demanding we step in and do something.

[Garcia Bronco]

One funny part about that is, as soon as the **** hits the fan, they would come demanding we step in and do something.

We have bailed the world's ass out time and again the past 400 years, and IMO the only people we technically owe are the French.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

One funny part about that is, as soon as the **** hits the fan, they would come demanding we step in and do something.

There may still be occasions when it's clearly in our interests to step in, but not nearly as often as we've been doing since the end of WWII, IMO.

[Dukes]

There may still be occasions when it's clearly in our interests to step in, but not nearly as often as we've been doing since the end of WWII, IMO.

Yup

[barryr]

Let's see, libs will believe this story and the lies told by supposed scientists about global warming. Wow, no need to question their intelligence.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

^ barryr with the view from the Down's Syndrome community.

[SPfloppy]

Let's see, libs will believe this story and the lies told by supposed scientists about global warming. Wow, no need to question their intelligence.

Thanx Barryr. I saw that one too. But before LA says so allow me to step on this: But we're not talking about global warming, and besides Al Gore said it does to exist!"

[TheDave]

We have bailed the world's ass out time and again the past 400 years, and IMO the only people we technically owe are the French.

Alright I've got to hear this... who's ass did we bail out in 1609?

[spdirty]

We have bailed the world's ass out time and again the past 400 years, and IMO the only people we technically owe are the French.

I think we paid what we owed to the french last century. Twice.

[spdirty]

If this is true, it goes down in history as the most singular act of buffoonery of all time. Of course, what would you expect from George Bush? And yet, it is also a horrific tragedy because of the loss of life caused by this act of monumental stupidity.

It sounds like a bad joke but it may be a true story: one of the most sensational claims made by the British government in the run-up to the Iraq War about Saddam Hussein’s supposed weapons of mass destruction may have come from an Iraqi taxi driver based on a conversation he overheard from passengers in his backseat two years earlier.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2009/12/08/was-taxi-driver-source-for-key-saddam-wmd-claim.aspx

Think its time to start taking your meds again, before I start ****ing with you with stories of how mini-nukes brought down the WTC.

[Rohirrim]

Think its time to start taking your meds again, before I start ****ing with you with stories of how mini-nukes brought down the WTC.

Or, I could be like you and cover my ears and sit in the corner going, "Wah, wah, wah. I don't hear any of this."

[Rohirrim]

Alright I've got to hear this... who's ass did we bail out in 1609?

I thought our country was only 233 years old!? See what you can learn by coming to the ole WRP forum? :thumbsup:

[Meck77]

It's all good. Obama said he will start the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq as soon as he takes office. I'm sure he'll end the war in Afghanistan as well. Right?

[Rohirrim]

It's all good. Obama said he will start the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq as soon as he takes office. I'm sure he'll end the war in Afghanistan as well. Right?

First, he has to pick up his "Peace" prize.

[spdirty]

Or, I could be like you and cover my ears and sit in the corner going, "Wah, wah, wah. I don't hear any of this."

No your right. I do try to do that. The looney bin annoys the hell out of me. If you actually believe this bullshlt then well mini-nukes are on sale at Wal Mart. Maybe you should write Santa and put em on your Christmas list. Then you can use em to bomb all the Wal Marts and oil companies and save the world from the global warming.:loopy:

[Rohirrim]

No your right. I do try to do that. The looney bin annoys the hell out of me. If you actually believe this bullshlt then well mini-nukes are on sale at Wal Mart. Maybe you should write Santa and put em on your Christmas list. Then you can use em to bomb all the Wal Marts and oil companies and save the world from the global warming.:loopy:

Having seen what we have seen of Cheney since he left office, why would anybody doubt he would do anything, and I do mean anything, to advance his agenda?

[spdirty]

Having seen what we have seen of Cheney since he left office, why would anybody doubt he would do anything, and I do mean anything, to advance his agenda?

Including mini-nuke the WTC!!!

[Rohirrim]

Including mini-nuke the WTC!!!

:clown:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Quotes

"Bush was asked if he listened to his father Herbert Herbert Bush and he responded, "No I listen to my father in heaven." Then he (W) went on to invade a country using what he knew to be bogus intelligence. The result being 5000 US servicemen killed, 30,000 wounded, over 125,000 Iraqis killed while 2 million Iraqis had to flee Iraq because of ethnic cleansing. If a butcher like Bush follows Jesus....give me an atheist."

Link (http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20091208/NEWS01/912080327)