View Full Version : TCU vs BSU
RhymesayersDU
12-06-2009, 05:09 PM
If only Nebraska could have won yesterday, all hell could have broken loose.
Should be a good game though, FWIW.
Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2009, 05:09 PM
TCU is badass. Watch out now.
yhova
12-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Nebraska wins yesterday and you still have 3 teams crying and whining about which one should play Bama. The college system can kiss my stink dot.
TCU is very good and it will be an entertaining game for sure, but its a disappointing matchup. Two non BCS schools deserved to play the "big boys"
BroncoInferno
12-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Good matchup but this was a chance for these two teams to prove themselves worthy of the big boys. Would rather have seen them have a chance to prove themselves against BCS conference schools, but oh well.
Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2009, 05:17 PM
At least we'll get a good look at future Denver Bronco, Jerry Hughes.
Good matchup but this was a chance for these two teams to prove themselves worthy of the big boys. Would rather have seen them have a chance to prove themselves against BCS conference schools, but oh well.
exactly. I would rather see TCU-florida and BSU-Cinci
broncocalijohn
12-06-2009, 06:06 PM
We saw what Utah could do against the "big boys" last year so this year had two teams (and three if Cinci counts) to play against those teams. Big time shame. Are they afraid of a Hawaii-Georgia blowout? Those teams dont travel?
Tyrant
12-06-2009, 06:08 PM
TCU will destroy Boise. It won't be pretty.
I think it is a great matchup, I for one will love watching the game. Cincinnati and Florida is another game that will keep me glued to the TV. For once the BCS pretty much got it right. There should be no bitching this year.
Orange4Life
12-06-2009, 06:35 PM
It's a load of **** they put these two together. I'm tempted to just boycott all BCS bowls. Each of these teams deserved to play the 'big boys' I'm sure the NCAA is afraid of what would happen after TCU kicked the **** out of somebody like Utah did last year. Its just another way to keep the little guys out. Screw the NCAA
It's a load of **** they put these two together. I'm tempted to just boycott all BCS bowls. Each of these teams deserved to play the 'big boys' I'm sure the NCAA is afraid of what would happen after TCU kicked the **** out of somebody like Utah did last year. Its just another way to keep the little guys out. Screw the NCAA
Your reasoning makes zero sense.
#1: Alabama vs Texas is a given, 1 and 2 in the BCS
#2: Big 10 winner vs pac 10 winner in the Rose Bowl, It is how it works if neither team goes to the national championship game, no exceptions
That leaves the next 4 teams (3 thru 6) in the BCS standing playing each other in 1 way or another in Cincinnati, TCU, Florida and Boise State.
Iowa and Georgia Tech are 9 and 10 in the BCS and are playing each other.
What in the world are you bitching about???
Good matchup but this was a chance for these two teams to prove themselves worthy of the big boys. Would rather have seen them have a chance to prove themselves against BCS conference schools, but oh well.
I don't think that the BCS schools want anything to do with either team. The illusion must be upheld.
misturanderson
12-06-2009, 07:37 PM
I think it is a great matchup, I for one will love watching the game. Cincinnati and Florida is another game that will keep me glued to the TV. For once the BCS pretty much got it right. There should be no b****ing this year.
How so? There are 3 undefeated teams that won't have a chance to win a national championship.
Two of them are being forced to play each other so that the rest of the country can still sit back and say that there is no way that either of them could beat any of the top 5 schools from the Big 12 or SEC because they didn't prove it on the field.
I think the games will be awesome to watch, but the non-BCS schools should have been given the chance to prove themselves against the BCS conference schools.
UberBroncoMan
12-06-2009, 07:43 PM
exactly. I would rather see TCU-florida and BSU-Cinci
As would the rest of the country.
It's all politics and it's bull****.
UberBroncoMan
12-06-2009, 07:44 PM
How so? There are 3 undefeated teams that won't have a chance to win a national championship.
Two of them are being forced to play each other so that the rest of the country can still sit back and say that there is no way that either of them could beat any of the top 5 schools from the Big 12 or SEC because they didn't prove it on the field.
I think the games will be awesome to watch, but the non-BCS schools should have been given the chance to prove themselves against the BCS conference schools.
Boise State owning Oklahoma a while back was the best example of that. Freaking awesome game too.
As would the rest of the country.
It's all politics and it's bull****.
Sorry guys but the BCS got it right.... #1 is playing #2 for the title, besides wanting to please a few whiner fans of either Cincinnati, TCU or Boise, why in the freekin world would Alabama and Texas not play each other ??? Both of those teams are undefeated AND have been in the top 5 all season long and have played tough schedules in the toughest conferences in the country. Both have earned the right to face each other period.
Cincinnati is ranked #3 in the BCS and Florida #5
TCU is #4 and Boise is #6
How in the world you can not get the simplicity of this years pairings is beyond me. There is no difference if you flip Cinn/TCU and Boise, you have the exact same issues as far as you are concerned.... 2 of the undeafeated "Others" will still face each other.
Orange4Life
12-06-2009, 07:54 PM
Your reasoning makes zero sense.
#1: Alabama vs Texas is a given, 1 and 2 in the BCS
#2: Big 10 winner vs pac 10 winner in the Rose Bowl, It is how it works if neither team goes to the national championship game, no exceptions
That leaves the next 4 teams (3 thru 6) in the BCS standing playing each other in 1 way or another in Cincinnati, TCU, Florida and Boise State.
Iowa and Georgia Tech are 9 and 10 in the BCS and are playing each other.
What in the world are you b****ing about???
The rest of the posts after yours explain why I think it sucks.
Who says Alabama and Texas are tops? How good is TCU and Boise? We'll never know. That said I can understand why they are in the title game. I'm not sold on it but its not really my argument.
TCU and Boise playing each other protects the 'big boys' from losing to either of them. Thus they can keep up this joke of a system by keeping non-automatic qualifiers out.
spdirty
12-06-2009, 08:06 PM
God I hate the ncaa. Hopefully they will go to a playoff in < 30 years.
Sorry guys but the BCS got it right.... #1 is playing #2 for the title, besides wanting to please a few whiner fans of either Cincinnati, TCU or Boise, why in the freekin world would Alabama and Texas not play each other ??? Both of those teams are undefeated AND have been in the top 5 all season long and have played tough schedules in the toughest conferences in the country. Both have earned the right to face each other period.
Cincinnati is ranked #3 in the BCS and Florida #5
TCU is #4 and Boise is #6
How in the world you can not get the simplicity of this years pairings is beyond me. There is no difference if you flip Cinn/TCU and Boise, you have the exact same issues as far as you are concerned.... 2 of the undeafeated "Others" will still face each other.
Im not talking about the title. That should be Texas Alabama. Not many will argue against that.
The way it is now completely undermines TCU and BSU's accomplishments. Its the safe choice to avoid more controversy, not to mention they played against each other last year. If TCU win its not a big deal because they beat a non bcs school. If BSU wins, it gives their program a little more validity, but the pundits will say the same thing. They just removed any kind of luster for the winner. It's just disappointing.
enjolras
12-06-2009, 08:40 PM
Sorry guys but the BCS got it right.... #1 is playing #2 for the title, besides wanting to please a few whiner fans of either Cincinnati, TCU or Boise, why in the freekin world would Alabama and Texas not play each other ??? Both of those teams are undefeated AND have been in the top 5 all season long and have played tough schedules in the toughest conferences in the country. Both have earned the right to face each other period.
Cincinnati is ranked #3 in the BCS and Florida #5
TCU is #4 and Boise is #6
How in the world you can not get the simplicity of this years pairings is beyond me. There is no difference if you flip Cinn/TCU and Boise, you have the exact same issues as far as you are concerned.... 2 of the undeafeated "Others" will still face each other.
I get that the BCS copped out of the matchups that would have led to potential embarrassment for the system. TCU vs Florida would have been the most intriguing one, but if TCU had won that then the whole system would look rather flawed. If TCU can beat Florida, they would have a legitimate claim to #1.
Instead, they play the other unknown commodity in Boise st. When TCU wins that (and they will), they can get patted on the head and told nice season without seriously upsetting the sham that is the BCS system.
How you can defend this nonsense just doesn't make any sense to me.
Garcia Bronco
12-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Im not talking about the title. That should be Texas Alabama. Not many will argue against that.
The way it is now completely undermines TCU and BSU's accomplishments. Its the safe choice to avoid more controversy, not to mention they played against each other last year. If TCU win its not a big deal because they beat a non bcs school. If BSU wins, it gives their program a little more validity, but the pundits will say the same thing. They just removed any kind of luster for the winner. It's just disappointing.
Boise or TCU is going to to get 10 plus million for their conference. Just be glad either has a shot at the money. Heck, I wouldn't have been surprised if Boise didn't get selected at all.
Garcia Bronco
12-06-2009, 08:44 PM
I get that the BCS copped out of the matchups that would have led to potential embarrassment for the system. TCU vs Florida would have been the most intriguing one, but if TCU had won that then the whole system would look rather flawed. If TCU can beat Florida, they would have a legitimate claim to #1.
Instead, they play the other unknown commodity in Boise st. When TCU wins that (and they will), they can get patted on the head and told nice season without seriously upsetting the sham that is the BCS system.
How you can defend this nonsense just doesn't make any sense to me.
The BCS isn't a shame. the two best teams are playing for the title. That's all the BCS aims to do. 1 vs 2.
tsiguy96
12-06-2009, 08:45 PM
the fact that the teams who play for the national championship are predetermined instead of giving the "underdog" teams a chance to win it is silly. who cares what the rankings are, rankings should not tell you who the best teams are, especially when there is multiple undefeated teams in the country. they should have to play each other to see who is the best on that day and good enough to move on to play for a national title. not a list saying well this undefeated team somehow played better than this undefeated team.
Orange4Life
12-06-2009, 08:50 PM
I get that the BCS copped out of the matchups that would have led to potential embarrassment for the system. TCU vs Florida would have been the most intriguing one, but if TCU had won that then the whole system would look rather flawed. If TCU can beat Florida, they would have a legitimate claim to #1.
Instead, they play the other unknown commodity in Boise st. When TCU wins that (and they will), they can get patted on the head and told nice season without seriously upsetting the sham that is the BCS system.
How you can defend this nonsense just doesn't make any sense to me.
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Everytime a non-BSC school takes down one of the 'big boys' the argument that they can not compete and don't deserve to play for a championship loses credibility.
Can you imagine how bad the system would look if say TCU took down Florida and Boise beat Cinncinatti? The whole system would be turned upside down.
Boise or TCU is going to to get 10 plus million for their conference. Just be glad either has a shot at the money. Heck, I wouldn't have been surprised if Boise didn't get selected at all.
Just to be in a BCS is an honor and Im sure both programs are thrilled, I was just hoping for a different matchup
TerrElway
12-06-2009, 09:07 PM
TCU will destroy Boise. It won't be pretty.
Word. TCU is the best team in the country and would beat Bama. Can't have a non-big-boy school win it all now can we? If those BCS dumb asses knew what was what they would let a team like TCU play for the title. If they win then they can say, "See, this system is fair. We give a deserving team a shot no matter where they are" and if they lose they say, "See, these guys aren't in our league." But they are too arrogant or stupid to see that.
Garcia Bronco
12-06-2009, 09:12 PM
Just to be in a BCS is an honor and Im sure both programs are thrilled, I was just hoping for a different matchup
I was thinking that TCU would play Florida, but oh well. It'll be a good game.
SPfloppy
12-07-2009, 07:15 AM
I was pulling for Nebraska over Texas so we could have BCS chaos. But close to the end I thought about it and it dawned on me that even if Texas lost TCU would get jumped by Cincy because the beat Pitt thus screwing another non-bcs team out of the rightfull shot at a national title(TCU didn't play this week).
As far as the BCS b******** goes I am happy we have it on one hand but want a playoff on the other. Anyone remember CU and Georgia Tech? How Bout Miami and Washington? Before the Bowl coalition (flawed as it was) we never got #1 vs #2. The BCS gives us that every year. The USC/LSU debacle should have led to an immediate suspention of the BCS process as it undid the entire point of the system, however that only happened once.
There is soooooo much money in the BCS that any playoff format that does not include these games and highlight them, will wound College football. Right now the regular season counts for so much that one loss can literaly mean your season is over. That means great competition every week unlike the NFL where the energy is gone from the game halfway thru and fans sit on thier hands. (Except in Denver, New York, Buffallo and a couple of other places) The college attmosphere makes every play exciting and crowds cram together 80-100,000 everey game every week. We have to be carefull what kind of playoff we get if we get one at all otherwise it could minimalize the regular season
Garcia Bronco
12-07-2009, 11:19 AM
There wouldn't be any chaos.....number 2 would have gotten selected and played for the Championship.....opf course it doesn't matter because none of those teams could beat Alabama.
Garcia Bronco
12-07-2009, 11:21 AM
We have a playoff system already of sorts. Florida got played off. Clemson got played off. Nebraska got played off. It's the Big 10, Pac-10, MAC, WAC, and Big East that need to have a playoff...and really Cincy had a playoff too ..though not a championship game.
Bronco LB52
12-07-2009, 02:38 PM
TCU-Boise State played last December. It was a great game, but we don't need to see it again.
**** the BCS. Most of the college football diehards I know like the old bowl system than this horse**** system.