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Broncoman13
12-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Much to debate here. There is the obvious three in Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Brett Favre (lots of you deserve some crow on him!), and I can certainly see the argument for those three. All of them are having great seasons and are on teams with a combined 32-1 record. So, while I know it isn't likely and maybe outside the normal thought patter, I'm going to suggest someone else for OPOY.

Chris Johnson!!!

At this point he has just under 1400 yards rushing. That 127 yards per game and 6.4 yards per carry! He also has another 300 yards receiving. His 10 total TDs are not eye popping, but nothing to sneeze at either. Here is the thing though, he is on pace to rush for over 2000 yards and he may do that without hitting 300 carries!!!

He has had 7 games with 125 yards rushing or more! 4, 2 TD games. 4 times he has run for at least 150. Finally, he hasn't run for less than 128 yards in the last couple of months!!! He is as hot as anyone in the league right now. Early season questions regarding who the best RB in the league this year are pretty much answered. Most would tell you that they'd take Adrian Peterson (I would) over Chris Johnson, but Chris Johnson is sure making it a tough decision.

So, would 2000+ rushing yards, 500 receiving yards, and 15-18 total TDs be enough to win the OPOY award? Most years, it would and quite easily... but with Manning, Favre, and Brees lighting it up, it probably won't be enough.

Thoughts? And who do you have for OPOY at this point?

Play2win
12-03-2009, 06:04 AM
Brees... 18 of 23 for 371 and 5 TDs.

baja
12-03-2009, 06:29 AM
he said year not one game...

but I give it to Brees too

Killericon
12-03-2009, 06:33 AM
I like how you make it seem like Chris Johnson isn't an obvious potential choice for OPOTY. He could hit 2000 yards, man. I think if he unless he doesn't hit 1900 yard, he'll get OPOTY while Brees/Manning/Favre gets MVP.

Broncoman13
12-03-2009, 06:41 AM
I like how you make it seem like Chris Johnson isn't an obvious potential choice for OPOTY. He could hit 2000 yards, man. I think if he unless he doesn't hit 1900 yard, he'll get OPOTY while Brees/Manning/Favre gets MVP.

That's possible... but keep in mind the media's love affair with Brett Favre. He's on pace to end up with a 30+ TD and less than 10 INTs. Plus they'll probably end up around 14-2. Then Manning with 4500 yards and 35-40 TDs. Brees, undefeated and 35 TDs and close to 5000 yards. I agree that it would be hard to pass on Chris Johnson with 2500 total yards... but if they're 9-7 and out of the playoffs...

tsiguy96
12-03-2009, 06:59 AM
chris johnson is playing better than any other offensive palyer..

fontaine
12-03-2009, 07:01 AM
For the NFL, I'm not sure yet.

But there's no question Denver's MVP has got to be Jay Cutler.

Not just for this season because he's going to get Denver a much much better draft pick, but in the offseason as well because his douchebaggery gave us multpile draft picks also.

Ramathorn
12-03-2009, 07:23 AM
chris johnson has my vote

Inkana7
12-03-2009, 08:35 AM
If Chris Johnson keeps this up, he will win it. If not, its probably Brees.

missingnumber7
12-03-2009, 08:38 AM
If Chris Johnson keeps this up, he will win it. If not, its probably Brees.

If the Titans make the playoffs Johnson is a shoe in, but I think its going to be either Brees or Favre, what I think will happen is one will win MVP and the other will be POY.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-03-2009, 08:42 AM
It's got to be CJ.

MVP will go to one of the QB's, but OPOTY? Easy choice.

tsiguy96
12-03-2009, 08:49 AM
If the Titans make the playoffs Johnson is a shoe in, but I think its going to be either Brees or Favre, what I think will happen is one will win MVP and the other will be POY.

favre is playing good but hes not even the best QB in the game right now, much less offensive player of year. brees is going nuts however, probably my favorite QB as he is generally overlooked in the "elite" category.

Kaylore
12-03-2009, 08:53 AM
Peyton Hillis!

/OM morons

Garcia Bronco
12-03-2009, 08:54 AM
Brees will win it.

Rabb
12-03-2009, 08:56 AM
I am going to go with Brees for OPOTY also, what he is doing every week is amazing

MVP, I hate to say this but there is no chance it isn't Favre and he deserves it

he completely lifted that team to another level and is having probably his best season ever

Play2win
12-03-2009, 08:58 AM
he said year not one game...

but I give it to Brees too

Details, details... Ha!

Old Dude
12-03-2009, 09:25 AM
Brees.

And it's hard to see how anyone can beat the Saints right now.

Tombstone RJ
12-03-2009, 09:32 AM
If CJ rushes for over 2000 yards and if he brakes Dickerson's all time rushing record, then he should by default get OPOTY.

Brees, Favre and Manning can duke it out for MVP.

missingnumber7
12-03-2009, 09:34 AM
favre is playing good but hes not even the best QB in the game right now, much less offensive player of year. brees is going nuts however, probably my favorite QB as he is generally overlooked in the "elite" category.

If Favre isn't on this vikings team they aren't 10-1, in fact I dunno if they are 6-5. Their D is good, but TJack sucks and they didn't have another plan going into the season. That alone puts Favre in the MVP running in my mind.

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Drew Brees NO QB 236 343 68.8 31.2 3,117 9.1 283.4 27 9 142 41.4 75T 47 8 14 112.6
2 Brett Favre MIN QB 248 358 69.3 32.5 2,874 8.0 261.3 24 3 142 39.7 63 37 10 22 112.1
3 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 249 380 65.5 34.5 3,136 8.3 285.1 22 5 140 36.8 74T 39 13 44 104.9
4 Peyton Manning IND QB 298 423 70.4 38.5 3,415 8.1 310.5 24 11 172 40.7 80T 41 7 10 102.5
5 Philip Rivers SD QB 224 349 64.2 31.7 2,938 8.4 267.1 19 6 145 41.5 81T 40 9 20 101.6


Those are the Top QB's by QB Rating.

Favre #2 in Rtg, #2 in completion percentage Best TD/INT percentage. Yea he don't put up huge numbers. But perception of QB's is what ESPN tells 90% of footballs fans what to think.

LonghornBronco
12-03-2009, 09:36 AM
brees will win it.

+3

cartel
12-03-2009, 09:37 AM
go Pirates!

tsiguy96
12-03-2009, 09:40 AM
If Favre isn't on this vikings team they aren't 10-1, in fact I dunno if they are 6-5. Their D is good, but TJack sucks and they didn't have another plan going into the season. That alone puts Favre in the MVP running in my mind.

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Drew Brees NO QB 236 343 68.8 31.2 3,117 9.1 283.4 27 9 142 41.4 75T 47 8 14 112.6
2 Brett Favre MIN QB 248 358 69.3 32.5 2,874 8.0 261.3 24 3 142 39.7 63 37 10 22 112.1
3 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 249 380 65.5 34.5 3,136 8.3 285.1 22 5 140 36.8 74T 39 13 44 104.9
4 Peyton Manning IND QB 298 423 70.4 38.5 3,415 8.1 310.5 24 11 172 40.7 80T 41 7 10 102.5
5 Philip Rivers SD QB 224 349 64.2 31.7 2,938 8.4 267.1 19 6 145 41.5 81T 40 9 20 101.6


Those are the Top QB's by QB Rating.

Favre #2 in Rtg, #2 in completion percentage Best TD/INT percentage. Yea he don't put up huge numbers. But perception of QB's is what ESPN tells 90% of footballs fans what to think.


im aware of his effect on the team, they made it to the playoffs without him, though obviously not in near dominant fashion, and while he deserves consideration, brees and chris johnson are playing the best at their positions right now. johnson is on pace to destroy literally every running back and yards record ever held. brees is putting up points hardly ever seen in the NFL before against great teams.

Tombstone RJ
12-03-2009, 09:41 AM
If Favre isn't on this vikings team they aren't 10-1, in fact I dunno if they are 6-5. Their D is good, but TJack sucks and they didn't have another plan going into the season. That alone puts Favre in the MVP running in my mind.

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Drew Brees NO QB 236 343 68.8 31.2 3,117 9.1 283.4 27 9 142 41.4 75T 47 8 14 112.6
2 Brett Favre MIN QB 248 358 69.3 32.5 2,874 8.0 261.3 24 3 142 39.7 63 37 10 22 112.1
3 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 249 380 65.5 34.5 3,136 8.3 285.1 22 5 140 36.8 74T 39 13 44 104.9
4 Peyton Manning IND QB 298 423 70.4 38.5 3,415 8.1 310.5 24 11 172 40.7 80T 41 7 10 102.5
5 Philip Rivers SD QB 224 349 64.2 31.7 2,938 8.4 267.1 19 6 145 41.5 81T 40 9 20 101.6


Those are the Top QB's by QB Rating.

Favre #2 in Rtg, #2 in completion percentage Best TD/INT percentage. Yea he don't put up huge numbers. But perception of QB's is what ESPN tells 90% of footballs fans what to think.

I understand what you are saying but it's hard to know (in fact it's almost completely impossible to know) what the Vikes' record is with Rosenfels starting under center (isn't Sage Rosenfels the back up QB?).

strafen
12-03-2009, 09:50 AM
Well, we have quite a few good contenders.
Chris Johnson is having a phenomenal season. He could at this pace run for 2000 yards. Remarkable!

Brett Favre. It pains me to say it, but he's also having an awesome season
Drew Brees. What can I say. The guy is an offensive weapon all in his own.

I think Favre most likely gets MVP, but as far as OPOY I'd say Brees, then Johnson though it could go etheir way. I'll be happy either way. Brees because his team's record. Johnson if the Titans make the play-offs

Jerry Curl
12-03-2009, 09:57 AM
Chris Johnson wins both after breaking the rushing record.

missingnumber7
12-03-2009, 12:28 PM
I understand what you are saying but it's hard to know (in fact it's almost completely impossible to know) what the Vikes' record is with Rosenfels starting under center (isn't Sage Rosenfels the back up QB?).

They've had some awefully close games, including Barely beating Cleveland in Wk 1 if not for a Long run by AP, 3 pt win over SF on a needle threaded by Favre in Wk 3, 7 point win over GB at GB in Wk 4 in a win one for Favre, 2 point win over Baltimore in a last minute drive by favre to get into fg range in wk 6. I don't know how good Rosenfels really is, but right now TJack is considered the backup and was actually ahead of Rosenfels in preseason.