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Bronco Rob
11-27-2009, 05:09 AM
Kiszla: McD swears Broncos are back


By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Posted: 11/27/2009 01:00:00 AM MST


Who said there aren't enough bombs in the playbook of Broncos coach Josh McDaniels?

At a tense, emotional moment during Denver's crucial 26-6 victory over the New York Giants, McDaniels went nuclear, dropping a verbal bomb on his players. Thanks to an eavesdropping camera and microphone from the NFL Network, the tirade on the sideline was telecast to prime-time viewers across America in all its profane glory.

"All we're trying to do is win the (expletive) game!" McDaniels shouted at tackle Ryan Clady, quarterback Kyle Orton and offensive players gathered around the Denver bench.

And Happy Thanksgiving to you, Coach McDaniels.

Through the magic of the Internet, the fist-pumping outburst by McDaniels instantly became a five-star rant by a coach talking some serious turkey with Broncos desperate for a victory.

By cursing a blue streak, McDaniels did everything he could to put an emphatic end to Denver's losing streak. In good times and bad, whether relishing a victory against New England or talking smack with players from San Diego, there can be no doubt about how this coach operates.

For better or worse, these Broncos are going to be stoked by red- hot passion, with McDaniels pouring gasoline on the emotional fire.

While we all know pro football ain't church, McDaniels got burned by a league-partner network that committed a major blunder. If the tirade had been caught live, the mistake could be excused for a sport played on television without a seven-second delay. But get this: The NFL Network came back from a break in the game action to show McDaniels chewing out his players on videotape. Shouldn't somebody listen to this stuff before it's aired?

"It's the NFL Network. It doesn't surprise me," said McDaniels, who lit up his offensive players during the second quarter, when three dumb false-start penalties forced the Broncos to settle for a field goal in the red zone.

What happened next for mothers, fathers and all the kiddies watching the game as part of the holiday celebration was reality TV gone bad.

"We wish we could have caught it. We apologize for ever airing anything like that, absolutely. Especially on Thanksgiving," NFL Network executive producer Eric Weinberger said. "It's a mistake."

So much for the myth that the NFL is wholesome family entertainment. The public appetite for pumping-up violence and the unedited noise of the game's raw emotion is insatiable.

From red lights to bank windows to the sideline of athletic events, it now seems that big brother's candid camera is always watching. We all better be smiling and on our best behavior, because life in the USA is now a YouTube video waiting to happen.

"I had no idea where the camera was. I was just trying to do what I thought was best at the time," McDaniels said.

Shouting "We own you!" before kickoff in the loss to the Chargers was not out of personality for McDaniels, now was it?

Orton loves the fact that he works for a coach who cares so passionately about winning, and doesn't care who hears about it. Maybe that unbridled enthusiasm is why a four-game losing streak didn't feel like a funeral for the Broncos.

"I think guys appreciate it, and I think they thrive off it," said Orton, who completed 18-of-28 passes against the Giants for 245 yards.

For the first time since the final game of the 2007 season, the Broncos broke out their predominantly blue uniforms when they took the field for a must-win date. Fitting attire, given the nature of McDaniels inspirational talk, don't you think?

"You want to put yourself in a position by Thanksgiving to be able to compete to make the playoffs. And that's what hopefully we have done," said McDaniels, whose team now has a 7-4 record as the season runs full tilt toward its most emotional stretch.

Hold on to your hearts, Broncomaniacs. And keep the mute button under thumb.


http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_13877120

NYBronco
11-27-2009, 05:17 AM
The team looked solid except for the penalty streak that lit up McDaniels and also myself from my coaching couch. The mean streak seemed to refocus the Bronco offense after that point and they went on the bury the Giants. Great game, I enjoyed it and even the emotional display.

Blart
11-27-2009, 05:37 AM
That title is great

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-27-2009, 05:50 AM
So. Kiszla writes an entire article about an NFL Network **** up? Really?

Couldn't write about the game, or how you were wrong about the Broncos losing to the VaGiants? You have to write about the NFL Network because McD was tangentially involved?

That's pathetic.

There was plenty to write about FROM THE GAME. Focusing on one moment of network stupidity is a waste of newsprint.

No wonder the newspapers are failing.

crush17
11-27-2009, 09:33 AM
So. Kiszla writes an entire article about an NFL Network **** up? Really?

Couldn't write about the game, or how you were wrong about the Broncos losing to the VaGiants? You have to write about the NFL Network because McD was tangentially involved?

That's pathetic.

There was plenty to write about FROM THE GAME. Focusing on one moment of network stupidity is a waste of newsprint.

No wonder the newspapers are failing.

Exactly my thoughts. What a piece of crap Kiszla is.

Tombstone RJ
11-27-2009, 09:38 AM
I had the volume on the game pretty low (I was at someone elses's house) so I totally missed the cuss filled tirade. However, I totally understand wy McD was doing it. 3 false start penalties and the team had to kick a field goal, I was so mad I was about ready to throw my beer at the TV.

Rabb
11-27-2009, 09:43 AM
the sad thing to me is, people are painting it as McD's fault, like he is the only guy who curses on the sidelines

NFLN screwed up, not Josh...I have read/heard people saying McD will be fined, that is ridiculous

I love the passion from this mother****in' guy

Pseudofool
11-27-2009, 09:45 AM
So. Kiszla writes an entire article about an NFL Network **** up? Really?

Couldn't write about the game, or how you were wrong about the Broncos losing to the VaGiants? You have to write about the NFL Network because McD was tangentially involved?

That's pathetic.

There was plenty to write about FROM THE GAME. Focusing on one moment of network stupidity is a waste of newsprint.

No wonder the newspapers are failing.No crap. Given the title of the article, I thought he'd have some juicy quotes from McD noting how we're back...but no, we get the same article that every national writer is writing....

jhns
11-27-2009, 09:47 AM
So. Kiszla writes an entire article about an NFL Network **** up? Really?

Couldn't write about the game, or how you were wrong about the Broncos losing to the VaGiants? You have to write about the NFL Network because McD was tangentially involved?

That's pathetic.

There was plenty to write about FROM THE GAME. Focusing on one moment of network stupidity is a waste of newsprint.

No wonder the newspapers are failing.

Guess what the longest thread on the first page of the Broncos message board is about.... Exactly what this reporter just wrote about.

Pseudofool
11-27-2009, 09:49 AM
Guess what the longest thread on the first page of the Broncos message board is about.... Exactly what this reporter just wrote about.When you starting using message board threads as a standard for journalism for a newspaper writer, I think that tells you all you need to know.

jhns
11-27-2009, 09:52 AM
When you starting using message board threads as a standard for journalism for a newspaper writer, I think that tells you all you need to know.

I am using the message board as proof of what the hot topic is right now for Bronco fans.

theAPAOps5
11-27-2009, 09:53 AM
Nearly every coach cusses its almost part of the game. I never thought Shanny cussed until my first time at camp from the media sidelines. Shanny was dropping them left and right. It was crazy. But Shanny and most coaches keep the passion under wraps and not for public consumption. But I kind of like seeing it in the public spotlight!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-27-2009, 09:53 AM
Guess what the longest thread on the first page of the Broncos message board is about.... Exactly what this reporter just wrote about.

And? It's funny to talk about, sure. But a serious sports "columnist" focusing on THAT instead of the game, with the way he titled the article?

Just goofy, says a lot about Kiszla's willingness to actually report a story. Or lack thereof.

Pseudofool
11-27-2009, 09:54 AM
I am using the message board as proof of what the hot topic is right now for Bronco fans.Sure, but it's a story that's being covered ad naseum and as a local writer you figured his perspective would be more nuanced than it is. I mean this story is on every national website, ESPN, etc. It's not good journalism. It's sensationalism.

jhns
11-27-2009, 10:06 AM
Sure, but it's a story that's being covered ad naseum and as a local writer you figured his perspective would be more nuanced than it is. I mean this story is on every national website, ESPN, etc. It's not good journalism. It's sensationalism.

I think you guys just think everyone is like you. These guys write for the masses. Only a very small portion of fans actually go online and look up every article and piece of info they can find. The people on message boards are the minority. Most don't care about detailed stats or detailed breakdowns. That is especially true when talking about the people reading the paper. This guy is paid to write stuff that interests people and gives them something to talk about on their work break. As you can see here, this is a subject that everyone is interested in. It wasn't an article to go over the entire game. He will probably write one of those later if a few others already didn't at the same paper/website.

The one thing I don't understand is why people keep posting/reading these articles when you all think the writers are horrible. Why waste your time on them? I enjoy them and I don't read them if it is a subject I have read a lot about already. They get paid the same if you read them to hate as if you read them because you enjoy them. They will change what they do(or go away) if you just stop reading them.

Gort
11-27-2009, 10:07 AM
Nearly every coach cusses its almost part of the game. I never thought Shanny cussed until my first time at camp from the media sidelines. Shanny was dropping them left and right. It was crazy. But Shanny and most coaches keep the passion under wraps and not for public consumption. But I kind of like seeing it in the public spotlight!

shanny cursing at you is alot better than shanny peering through your soul with those laser beam eyes of his. lots of players experienced that.

jhns
11-27-2009, 10:16 AM
Nearly every coach cusses its almost part of the game. I never thought Shanny cussed until my first time at camp from the media sidelines. Shanny was dropping them left and right. It was crazy. But Shanny and most coaches keep the passion under wraps and not for public consumption. But I kind of like seeing it in the public spotlight!

It would be interesting to hear a few of the conversations between Plummer and Shanahan back when they would fight on the sidelines. They showed that a lot but didn't let you hear them.

McD seems very passionate. That can be good and bad. The mistakes stopped when he went off last night, so it obviously worked. There is an article in ESPNs rumor central that says people were complaining McD got to emotional after the first loss and it changed the atmospere in the locker room for the worse. I don't know if it is true, but I could see it happening. I think the passion is good but he may need to cut it back a little. I would have been yelling after all those penalties too. Ok, I did yell after them but the team couldn't hear me.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-27-2009, 10:18 AM
I think you guys just think everyone is like you. These guys write for the masses. Only a very small portion of fans actually go online and look up every article and piece of info they can find. The people on message boards are the minority. Most don't care about detailed stats or detailed breakdowns. That is especially true when talking about the people reading the paper. This guy is paid to write stuff that interests people and gives them something to talk about on their work break. As you can see here, this is a subject that everyone is interested in. It wasn't an article to go over the entire game. He will probably write one of those later if a few others already didn't at the same paper/website.

The one thing I don't understand is why people keep posting/reading these articles when you all think the writers are horrible. Why waste your time on them? I enjoy them and I don't read them if it is a subject I have read a lot about already. They get paid the same if you read them to hate as if you read them because you enjoy them. They will change what they do(or go away) if you just stop reading them.

Fair enough, and I can finally say "that's a good point" to one of your posts. However, the fact remains that this story is being covered EVERYWHERE, and could really be summed up in a paragraph. We don't need Kiszla writing an entire column.

I would much rather read a take on the game from Kiszla than a breakdown of what McD said on the sideline that was inadvertently broadcast, which has zero to do with the actual football game. I don't see what's so awful to you about having a sports writer write about sports.

Captain 'Dre
11-27-2009, 10:35 AM
On the other hand... What's McD supposed to say?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-27-2009, 10:39 AM
On the other hand... What's McD supposed to say?

More importantly, how worried would we be if McD was worried about the cameras pointed his direction? The Mane would be apoplectic.

barryr
11-27-2009, 11:11 AM
Kizla is just upset the Broncos won, so had to write about something else. Quite a few on the NFL Network have been bashing McDaniels since the summer and reluctantly gave him any praise during the 6-0 start, so I'm sure that's not lost on him.

Bronco Rob
11-27-2009, 02:58 PM
On the other hand... What's McD supposed to say?



:pimp:

Hogan11
11-27-2009, 07:01 PM
The only thing that can have possible ramifications that I can see is this line here:

"It's the NFL Network. It doesn't surprise me"

From what I understand (and I wish I could find where I saw it, but can't as of right now, my apologies) that line wasn't taken very well by any of the higher ups at the NFLN.

Would the NFLN be petty enough to blackball the Broncos from future Thursday night games because of that?

Bronx33
11-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Who ****ing cares what peoples pink fluffy virgin ears hear! if somebody hears a few bad words then tough ****ing ****! were trying to win a ****ing game here for christs sakes!!!

ZONA
11-27-2009, 07:24 PM
He probably wouldn't have gone ape **** after a penalty or 2 but cmon, 3 mother ****in penalties in a series. That's enough to make any coach lose it momentarily.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-27-2009, 09:49 PM
The only thing that can have possible ramifications that I can see is this line here:

"It's the NFL Network. It doesn't surprise me"

From what I understand (and I wish I could find where I saw it, but can't as of right now, my apologies) that line wasn't taken very well by any of the higher ups at the NFLN.

Would the NFLN be petty enough to blackball the Broncos from future Thursday night games because of that?

I doubt it because if they feel the broncos can make them money, they will schedule the broncos. I hate the thursday night NFLN game though, so i'd be all for never seeing it again.

Broncos4tw
11-27-2009, 10:23 PM
Holy crap.. this is stupid. We are so anal and PR in this country it makes me sick. Yes, monitor and bleep stuff out and all that. Lord knows killing people is ok, seeing a naked body is a hideous sin now-a-days. So.. when they screw up once.. GET OVER IT! I'm thinking 11 out of 10 kids hear worse than that on a DAILY basis in their school. In fact, I guarantee it.

I can't believe he wrote an entire stupid article about this. It only becomes a big issues because of this stupid crap.

Archer81
11-27-2009, 10:26 PM
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And thats all I have to say about that...

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