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Los Broncos
12-10-2010, 11:31 PM
yeee haaa

:rofl:

Br0nc0Buster
12-10-2010, 11:39 PM
Broncos are 3-9, Champ, Orton, Clady, DJ, Moreno Suck....

I cant tell if youre joking
I tried to make a joke and I guess not that many people saw the thread I was referring to

anyway back to my original point, the Browns are 5-7, so Hillis is pretty much a joke

TomServo
12-11-2010, 02:03 AM
Browns are only 5-7, Hillis sucks
broncos are 3-9, Moreno sucks as the 12th pick in the Entire draft!
Moreno was the no.12 pick in the entire draft. Hillis was let go for a Bust qb that hasnt seen the field in the regular season.
Cutler is 8-3
shefff. has MORE catches than the entire bronco TE corps.
How many picks did we give for for R Quinn ?
how many picks did we give up to pick tebow?
how many teams coveted tebow? ZERO!! the Bills were NOT interested! thats all Crap!
i tell my kids, tebow may lead us to many superbowls or he may be out of the league next year.

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12-11-2010, 02:08 AM
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colonelbeef
12-11-2010, 07:30 AM
broncos are 3-9, Moreno sucks as the 12th pick in the Entire draft!
Moreno was the no.12 pick in the entire draft. Hillis was let go for a Bust qb that hasnt seen the field in the regular season.
Cutler is 8-3
shefff. has MORE catches than the entire bronco TE corps.
How many picks did we give for for R Quinn ?
how many picks did we give up to pick tebow?
how many teams coveted tebow? ZERO!! the Bills were NOT interested! thats all Crap!
i tell my kids, tebow may lead us to many superbowls or he may be out of the league next year.

But we have Lawrence Maroney and Brady Quinn now, all McDaniels did was give up 3 picks and Peyton Hillis for them! Now finally we have some character around here.

So proud,

-Poops

Don Flamenco
12-11-2010, 09:19 AM
Yea, but Popps proved that Hillis wasn't smart enough to run for 1,400 yards and score 15 TDs in McDaniels offense.

Oh, wait.....

Well it's obvious by now that Popps likes to smoke poles in his free time.

That guy blows

tnedator
12-11-2010, 09:44 AM
I cant tell if youre joking
I tried to make a joke and I guess not that many people saw the thread I was referring to

anyway back to my original point, the Browns are 5-7, so Hillis is pretty much a joke

As is your logic and reasoning if your best argument is that the Browns are 5-7, so Hillis sucks.

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 04:15 PM
As is your logic and reasoning if your best argument is that the Browns are 5-7, so Hillis sucks.

totally

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 04:17 PM
broncos are 3-9, Moreno sucks as the 12th pick in the Entire draft!
Moreno was the no.12 pick in the entire draft. Hillis was let go for a Bust qb that hasnt seen the field in the regular season.
Cutler is 8-3
shefff. has MORE catches than the entire bronco TE corps.
How many picks did we give for for R Quinn ?
how many picks did we give up to pick tebow?
how many teams coveted tebow? ZERO!! the Bills were NOT interested! thats all Crap!
i tell my kids, tebow may lead us to many superbowls or he may be out of the league next year.

none of that changes the fact that Hillis is 5-7, thats pretty awful

Archer81
12-11-2010, 05:23 PM
broncos are 3-9, Moreno sucks as the 12th pick in the Entire draft!
Moreno was the no.12 pick in the entire draft. Hillis was let go for a Bust qb that hasnt seen the field in the regular season.
Cutler is 8-3
shefff. has MORE catches than the entire bronco TE corps.
How many picks did we give for for R Quinn ?
how many picks did we give up to pick tebow?
how many teams coveted tebow? ZERO!! the Bills were NOT interested! thats all Crap!
i tell my kids, tebow may lead us to many superbowls or he may be out of the league next year.


Well this post is full of fun, isnt it.


:Broncos:

Taco John
12-11-2010, 05:42 PM
none of that changes the fact that Hillis is 5-7, thats pretty awful


How nice would it be if we were 5-7 right now...

A guy can dream.

Archer81
12-11-2010, 05:48 PM
How nice would it be if we were 5-7 right now...

A guy can dream.


I'd be good with 4-8.


:Broncos:

misturanderson
12-11-2010, 05:55 PM
definitely go for 2011, because if this bet was taking place this year, you'd be banned for 5 months

Try 3. Marshal 1 TD, Thomas 2. And if Cutler makes the probowl it will be because Vick, Brees, Rodgers and Ryan decided not to go.

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 05:57 PM
How nice would it be if we were 5-7 right now...

A guy can dream.

its alright we will win out

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-11-2010, 06:14 PM
its alright we will win out

Are you sure you want to say that. Because if we win out, it just means that everything that McDumbass did was stupid (including personal decisions)!

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 07:57 PM
Are you sure you want to say that. Because if we win out, it just means that everything that McDumbass did was stupid (including personal decisions)!

yeah you are right I would prefer them to lose to validate any points I might have made. That is what really matters

Karenin
12-11-2010, 08:17 PM
Wait, are we still pretending some middling RB is a hall of famer, just because he's white? Does the dude even have 1000 yards yet? No?

Sweet, Reuben Drouhgns 2.0!

loborugger
12-11-2010, 09:22 PM
Wait, are we still pretending some middling RB is a hall of famer, just because he's white? Does the dude even have 1000 yards yet? No?

Sweet, Reuben Drouhgns 2.0!

Reuben Droughns is white?

broncocalijohn
12-11-2010, 09:44 PM
Wait, are we still pretending some middling RB is a hall of famer, just because he's white? Does the dude even have 1000 yards yet? No?

Sweet, Reuben Drouhgns 2.0!

You dont post much, but when you do, it is full of failure. Congrats. He is a few plays from getting 1000 yards. You do know it is game 12 that just passed, correct? So in 4 games he gets only 60 yards per game, that gives him about 1250 yards on the ground. Also, look at his receiving stats and see how many total TDs he has this year. Amazing. No one said he is a HOF but he will be in the ProBowl unless injury keeps him out. Too bad you didnt enjoy him while you had the chance.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-11-2010, 09:47 PM
yeah you are right I would prefer them to lose to validate any points I might have made. That is what really matters

No. But if we lose. It means that McDumbass never improved the talent on this team and should have kept as much of the "old" talent as possible.

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 10:48 PM
No. But if we lose. It means that McDumbass never improved the talent on this team and should have kept as much of the "old" talent as possible.

thats a really cool story and all but I wasnt talking about Josh, but Peyton Hillis who is 5-7

I know its fun to bring Josh into every discussion, but for craps and giggles I wonder what would happen if you actually stayed on topic?

tnedator
12-11-2010, 10:58 PM
thats a really cool story and all but I wasnt talking about Josh, but Peyton Hillis who is 5-7

I know its fun to bring Josh into every discussion, but for craps and giggles I wonder what would happen if you actually stayed on topic?

One question. Do you realize how asinine your 5-7 argument is?

Archer81
12-11-2010, 11:01 PM
One question. Do you realize how asinine your 5-7 argument is?


In this thread? Not at all.


:Broncos:

Don Flamenco
12-11-2010, 11:04 PM
Wait, are we still pretending some middling RB is a hall of famer, just because he's white? Does the dude even have 1000 yards yet? No?

Sweet, Reuben Drouhgns 2.0!


I actually like Ruben Droughns minus the fumbles. He actually contributed to wins

Taco John
12-11-2010, 11:04 PM
its alright we will win out

I would absolutely love that. One of my favorite times of year is when NFL Films releases the annual yearbook film that reviews the previous season. Sometimes when I can't sleep, I lay there thinking about how the 2010 one is going to look and gently cry myself to sleep. Closing out the year with 4 wins would go a long ways with me right now.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-11-2010, 11:07 PM
thats a really cool story and all but I wasnt talking about Josh, but Peyton Hillis who is 5-7

I know its fun to bring Josh into every discussion, but for craps and giggles I wonder what would happen if you actually stayed on topic?

You don't know what football is about, do you.

So let me "ex-plane" to you how you build a "teim". You build a "teim" by "colecting" "tailent". Then you get that "tailent" to play "2gether".

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 11:17 PM
You don't know what football is about, do you.

So let me "ex-plane" to you how you build a "teim". You build a "teim" by "colecting" "tailent". Then you get that "tailent" to play "2gether".

I wonder if we can hire Hillis as the next HC, does anyone know if there are rules against a player also being a coach?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-11-2010, 11:18 PM
I wonder if we can hire Hillis as the next HC, does anyone know if there are rules against a player also being a coach?

Now who's off subject.

tnedator
12-11-2010, 11:19 PM
I wonder if we can hire Hillis as the next HC, does anyone know if there are rules against a player also being a coach?

Does anyone know if the NFL code of ethics says anything about a fan also being an idiot?

broncocalijohn
12-11-2010, 11:22 PM
No, or they would have pulled MissouriBronc's fancard long time ago. Why respond, he is just jerking your chain.... from a jerk :)

strafen
12-11-2010, 11:24 PM
Does anyone know if the NFL code of ethics says anything about a fan also being an idiot?I would just ignore him, man...

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 11:27 PM
Now who's off subject.

how?
it was about Hillis?

He could be the starting RB on offense and put on the headset and call plays when the defense is on the field

win win

tnedator
12-11-2010, 11:27 PM
No, or they would have pulled MissouriBronc's fancard long time ago. Why respond, he is just jerking your chain.... from a jerk :)

When I saw that MB had invaded the Mane, i almost asked TJ to resign my account.

Has Missouri spammed the Mane with the "all McDaniels did was pick up the phone and say NO" nonsense about the Cutler situation?

I'm not going to say there aren't valid arguments to be made in both sides of the debates on whether or not these guys should have been traded, but when people don't even attempt to present a reasoned argument, but instead just spew zealot-like bull ****.

Br0nc0Buster
12-11-2010, 11:35 PM
Does anyone know if the NFL code of ethics says anything about a fan also being an idiot?

no it doesnt I checked
your welcome though

btw I am just using the logic I learned on here

did you know that Slowshon More-no-show is a slow weak overrated bust who cant read holes and gain yardage?

another tidbit I learned here

tnedator
12-11-2010, 11:47 PM
no it doesnt I checked
your welcome though

btw I am just using the logic I learned on here

did you know that Slowshon More-no-show is a slow weak overrated bust who cant read holes and gain yardage?

another tidbit I learned here

Oh brother :someonepostafacepalmpicforme:

broncocalijohn
12-11-2010, 11:59 PM
When I saw that MB had invaded the Mane, i almost asked TJ to resign my account.

Has Missouri spammed the Mane with the "all McDaniels did was pick up the phone and say NO" nonsense about the Cutler situation?

I'm not going to say there aren't valid arguments to be made in both sides of the debates on whether or not these guys should have been traded, but when people don't even attempt to present a reasoned argument, but instead just spew zealot-like bull ****.

Dude is like Robert Ethan (do I have the moron's name correct?) on BF. MB made probably one of the worst arguments against Hillis in the sake of McD. I think it is one page or two back. Right there I knew he had no credibility.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 12:05 AM
Dude is like Robert Ethan (do I have the moron's name correct?) on BF. MB made probably one of the worst arguments against Hillis in the sake of McD. I think it is one page or two back. Right there I knew he had no credibility.

Yea, you have the other guys name right (although he could very well be a dupe account for an exiled past member).

With MB, he got so emotionally invested in defending McDaniels for trading Cutler and before he actually traded him, insisting that McDaniels did nothing but pick up the phone and say no, that he kept boxing himself into this unreasonable corners, where he had to concoct ridiculous scenarios to trash the players and defend McDaniels, or realize that the previous weeks, months and year+ of McDaniels defense and apologizing was all wrong.

Sometimes fans, like the Broncos management, need to just say, "ya know, I was wrong about that guy".

TomServo
12-12-2010, 02:19 AM
me myself, never said knowshon was a bad rb, i bought into the hype and said he would be great but he was never. never. worth the #12 pick in the entire draft. almost two years in and his longest run is what 36 yards? big ass hillis longest run is what? 48yards. KM is what? 36 in two years for the no 12 pick? and his hand slap celebrations last yeat w/ he was averaging like 1.8 ypc
and this year during the historic raider blowout? dancing and the turtle dance.
and last week against his personal bi tch the chiefs....in HD wide screen all i saw was KM in the screen i thought Touchdown and..... he only got a 24 yard gain.

Br0nc0Buster
12-12-2010, 03:33 AM
me myself, never said knowshon was a bad rb, i bought into the hype and said he would be great but he was never. never. worth the #12 pick in the entire draft. almost two years in and his longest run is what 36 yards? big ass hillis longest run is what? 48yards. KM is what? 36 in two years for the no 12 pick? and his hand slap celebrations last yeat w/ he was averaging like 1.8 ypc
and this year during the historic raider blowout? dancing and the turtle dance.
and last week against his personal bi tch the chiefs....in HD wide screen all i saw was KM in the screen i thought Touchdown and..... he only got a 24 yard gain.

well i agree with you that RBs are not worth a high pick
with that said I have been impressed with Moreno personally and my previous posts were a satire of the people criticizing him for not gaining X amount of yards behind a garbage line
I really do think he will be a staple of our team for a long time, and think he is one of the best players on the team

quite the contrast from the bust comments earlier this year that were being thrown his way because he couldnt gain a certain YPC behind a garbage Oline

Karenin
12-12-2010, 07:09 AM
You dont post much, but when you do, it is full of failure. Congrats. He is a few plays from getting 1000 yards. You do know it is game 12 that just passed, correct? So in 4 games he gets only 60 yards per game, that gives him about 1250 yards on the ground. Also, look at his receiving stats and see how many total TDs he has this year. Amazing. No one said he is a HOF but he will be in the ProBowl unless injury keeps him out. Too bad you didnt enjoy him while you had the chance.

cool story bro

go_broncos
12-12-2010, 11:17 AM
Hillis rushed for 49 yards in 7 attempts..
Browns ***** us in this trade..
Pathetic that Mcfired traded him.

If i was bowlen, I would fire him daily..

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 11:19 AM
Hillis rushed for 49 yards in 7 attempts..
Browns raped us in this trade..
Pathetic that Mcfired traded him.

If i was bowlen, I would fire him daily..

Thanks for this new and insightful take.

Can we lock this thread yet?

Broncos_OTM
12-12-2010, 11:26 AM
well i agree with you that RBs are not worth a high pick
with that said I have been impressed with Moreno personally and my previous posts were a satire of the people criticizing him for not gaining X amount of yards behind a garbage line
I really do think he will be a staple of our team for a long time, and think he is one of the best players on the team

quite the contrast from the bust comments earlier this year that were being thrown his way because he couldnt gain a certain YPC behind a garbage Oline

Running backs most certainly are worth that high of a pick... However they have to be extreme differance makers. Adrian Peterson type.

KM struggled earlier this year/ He has had injury issues. we have had oline issues. This is a team sport and at one point not all cylanders were fireing hence the reason for bust talk. not to mention he has yet to post a strong game against anyone besides the chiefs while running the ball.

WolfpackGuy
12-12-2010, 11:31 AM
Running backs most certainly are worth that high of a pick... However they have to be extreme differance makers. Adrian Peterson type.

KM struggled earlier this year/ He has had injury issues. we have had oline issues. This is a team sport and at one point not all cylanders were fireing hence the reason for bust talk. not to mention he has yet to post a strong game against anyone besides the chiefs while running the ball.

I think the Broncos got the one that played for the Bears.

Broncos_OTM
12-12-2010, 11:31 AM
My god what was hillis jumping like that... he should have just put his head down. What a horrible fumble

tnedator
12-12-2010, 11:36 AM
My god what was hillis jumping like that... he should have just put his head down. What a horrible fumble

While I agree with you, this year he has 50+ YAH (yards after hurdle). However, as he's done that at least once in nearly every game this season (and several times with Broncos) and has made DBs and LBs look foolish, they are probably being told to watch for the hurdle.

Should have just plowed through the guy. Have to remember he's still an inexperienced back in terms of actual game play, as last season he wasn't really used at all.

broncocalijohn
12-12-2010, 11:56 AM
Thanks for this new and insightful take.

Can we lock this thread yet?

No, but we should lock go-broncos up. I cant imagine him being over 19 years old. For his sake, age is his excuse.
In his profile under.....
Friends
go_broncos has not made any friends yet

Broncos_OTM
12-12-2010, 12:00 PM
While I agree with you, this year he has 50+ YAH (yards after hurdle). However, as he's done that at least once in nearly every game this season (and several times with Broncos) and has made DBs and LBs look foolish, they are probably being told to watch for the hurdle.

Should have just plowed through the guy. Have to remember he's still an inexperienced back in terms of actual game play, as last season he wasn't really used at all.

I have no problem when a guy does this, but he was in the middle of the field, with multiple defenders around him. Im a huge hillis fan however he needs to work on ball security this offseason

Pony Boy
12-12-2010, 12:14 PM
Peyton Hillis reaches 1,000 yards

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5911949

tnedator
12-12-2010, 12:20 PM
I have no problem when a guy does this, but he was in the middle of the field, with multiple defenders around him. Im a huge hillis fan however he needs to work on ball security this offseason

Agreed.

Most of his fumbles, not all, but most, are happening when he's fighting a pile of guys for extra yards, where he also GREATLY increases the strip opportunities for the other team. Mangini and company need to decide if they want Hillis fighting for every yard, or protecting the ball better, because they are some one in opposition.

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12-12-2010, 12:21 PM
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12-12-2010, 12:25 PM
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Requiem
12-12-2010, 12:25 PM
Cecil Sapp. Andre Hall. Reuben Droughns. Mike Anderson. Tatum Bell. Selvin Young. MIRACLES.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 12:28 PM
Cecil Sapp. Andre Hall. Reuben Droughns. Mike Anderson. Tatum Bell. Selvin Young. MIRACLES.

Req, why are you so threatened by Hillis' success? Do we need to talk about this? Do you need a crotch to cry on?

Gutless Drunk
12-12-2010, 12:29 PM
It's obvious Hillis still has a lot of fans amongst Bronco followers. Nothing wrong with the fact that they follow him and want to discuss his success. Those that don't care and don't have any desire to discuss Peyton Hillis don't really have to click on a thread titled "Peyton Hillis"

Requiem
12-12-2010, 12:36 PM
Req, why are you so threatened by Hillis' success? Do we need to talk about this? Do you need a crotch to cry on?

Not threatened at all. Like I said, any back who gets the ball 40% of the offense plays is going to produce. Helps put things into perspective. Can't imagine what it would be like if every back in the NFL got 40% of their offensive game plan handed to them. Even more fantasy premium?

Here is the deal, in six games as a starter for the Broncos we saw some glimpses of what he could do on the field. Some quality moves, a few scores. Nothing that struck anyone that this guy was out of the ordinary or going to be an All-Pro in the NFL. Anybody claiming this belief is a God damn liar. None of what we saw would have have been indicative to anyone that he was going to do it on a full-time basis, given the fact his season ended with injury. On multiple coaching staffs he was viewed as a reserve back and fullback.

Denver opted to draft Moreno and go with a running back for the future, one who they thought had more potential and would do more down the road than Peyton. Maybe they are right, maybe they are wrong. I find it no coincidence that our running back has been playing at a high level over the past four games when our predicted OL from the pre-season gets to work cohesively together. I also expect he will grow and get better in the future.

In the end, this is a moot issue to me. Hindsight is 20/20. Hillis is having an excellent year no doubt, but it will be interesting how long he can keep this up. Not really threatened about it. Just kind of funny to see how people have avoided my arguments all together and just like to basque in the fact that he is having success for another team?

Wow, cool. I'm so stoked how awesome Greg Jennings is doing for the Packers.

Dagmar
12-12-2010, 12:39 PM
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Denver724
12-12-2010, 12:43 PM
Hillis (72 yards) and Torrain (158 yards) having great days. Thanks McD.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 12:44 PM
Not threatened at all.

What a douche bag. You are the only person that gives me negative rep. I guess it's that small man, nerd complex you've been fighting your whole life.

Neg away, little req. I'm sure that will make up for not getting laid. ;)

Requiem
12-12-2010, 12:50 PM
What a douche bag. You are the only person that gives me negative rep. I guess it's that small man, nerd complex you've been fighting your whole life.

Neg away, little req. I'm sure that will make up for not getting laid. ;)

I'm not sure if the "small man, nerd complex" is the kind of route you want to given your looks and what you invest a serious amount of your free time and money into. You even brought up the neg rep! Gasp!

Keep it rolling though, I'm sure you will be all sorts of stoked to be the man behind the Broncos push for orange if it goes through. You will be a fan legend! Big fan boner for you!

DivineBronco
12-12-2010, 12:55 PM
whitetard with some fumble issues today

Requiem
12-12-2010, 12:57 PM
Aw, Peyton had another boo boo?

BroncoDoug
12-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Hillis (72 yards) and Torrain (158 yards) having great days. Thanks McD.

how is Torrain on McD... pretty sure shanny cut him first....

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Hillis (72 yards) and Torrain (158 yards)having great days. Thanks McD.

Holy **** please be sarcastic with this comment. Are you really upset about cutting Torrain?

OABB
12-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Hillis is a great player, but he needs to learn how to hold a football. Maybe he thinks it's a mouse and goes too Lenny on it?

DivineBronco
12-12-2010, 12:59 PM
Hillis (72 yards) and Torrain (158 yards) having great days. Thanks McD.

you might want to sit this one out there champ

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:02 PM
I'm not sure if the "small man, nerd complex" is the kind of route you want to given your looks and what you invest a serious amount of your free time and money into. You even brought up the neg rep! Gasp!

Keep it rolling though, I'm sure you will be all sorts of stoked to be the man behind the Broncos push for orange if it goes through. You will be a fan legend! Big fan boner for you!

Neg this one too, little boy. The only thing I ask is that you don't use the word boner when you are replying to me. We all know that your, ummm, preferences are in doubt, so it creeps me out a little.

wandlc
12-12-2010, 01:02 PM
He was released August 2009, I am pretty sure McIdiot was coaching at that time.

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:04 PM
Neg this one too, little boy. The only thing I ask is that you don't use the word boner when you are replying to me. We all know that your, ummm, preferences are in doubt, so it creeps me out a little.

You are the one who suggested a crotch to cry on in response to me.

It seems like you are the one that has some stuff in doubt.

Perhaps you can go back to your own forum, get drunk, measure your BAC and ask some of the female mods to slip you chest pictures.

Talk about being an E-Creep.

We all know about that story!

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 01:05 PM
He was released August 2009, I am pretty sure McIdiot was coaching at that time.

Because he was constantly injured and showed absolutely NOTHING to anyone in order to warrant keeping him around.

wandlc
12-12-2010, 01:07 PM
Because he was constantly injured and showed absolutely NOTHING to anyone in order to warrant keeping him around.

I was responding to the post that suggested that Shanahan released Torain which was not the case. And to me he has shown himself to be a McIdiot.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:07 PM
You are the one who suggested a crotch to cry on in response to me.

It seems like you are the one that has some stuff in doubt.



Yea, but I didn't realize it was going to give you a boner.

Perhaps you can go back to your own forum, get drunk, measure your BAC and ask some of the female mods to slip you chest pictures.

Talk about being an E-Creep.

We all know about that story!

How sad, even after the mods perma ban you, you keep making up new accounts and come crawling back. Dude, your not wanted there. Just stick with your neg reps here and cock fantasies in your pee brain.

Denver724
12-12-2010, 01:08 PM
Holy **** please be sarcastic with this comment. Are you really upset about cutting Torrain?

You damn right I am upset. McD cut his ass too. Just add it to the list.

Dagmar
12-12-2010, 01:09 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pe9RrIZUAIg/SYDu5WCE2oI/AAAAAAAAAa4/G8VbHELizRk/s400/crying-baby.jpg

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 01:10 PM
You damn right I am upset. McD cut his ass too. Just add it to the list.

Everybody in this message board would have cut Torrain too. Getting upset over Torrain is absurd.

Denver724
12-12-2010, 01:12 PM
Everybody in this message board would have cut Torrain too. Getting upset over Torrain is absurd.

Still pissed. More salt in the many wounds.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:14 PM
Here you go Req, neg this one to, you little gay boy... I guess you have power in at least one thing in your life, the ability to give neg rep. LMAO!

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:16 PM
Yea, but I didn't realize it was going to give you a boner.

Comments like these damn near border many relevant conditions for being a sociopath. Sounds like you need a mental health check up.

How sad, even after the mods perma ban you, you keep making up new accounts and come crawling back. Dude, your not wanted there. Just stick with your neg reps here and cock fantasies in your pee brain.

Everything on the forum can be read that isn't in the out of reach zone or private forums. That is just a fact. Secondly, The Dagda was an account I made up because of a "dare" that was suggested at Outsiders. There have been no others. I don't care if I'm not "wanted" there, and you are the one who keeps on bringing up the homoerotic references. Again, that must be your issue.

Keep up the great work though, I'm sure this Broncos Orange movement and your own forum (even though footing the bill for a site that sucks must be crappy or even having to ask for handouts) fill a serious void in your social life that doesn't exist in what people consider the real world. Which is why you end up blowing a .22 and act like a clown on your own forum.

COOL STORY BRO!

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:17 PM
What's happening in Cleveland is what happens when one player (Hillis) is your whole offense. If the other team is able to take him away, or he has a bad game, you aren't going to have much success.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:18 PM
Comments like these damn near border many relevant conditions for being a sociopath. Sounds like you need a mental health check up.



Everything on the forum can be read that isn't in the out of reach zone or private forums. That is just a fact. Secondly, The Dagda was an account I made up because of a "dare" that was suggested at Outsiders. There have been no others. I don't care if I'm not "wanted" there, and you are the one who keeps on bringing up the homoerotic references. Again, that must be your issue.

Keep up the great work though, I'm sure this Broncos Orange movement and your own forum (even though footing the bill for a site that sucks must be crappy or even having to ask for handouts) fill a serious void in your social life that doesn't exist in what people consider the real world. Which is why you end up blowing a .22 and act like a clown on your own forum.

COOL STORY BRO!

Dude, you are getting way defensive. No need to be so defensive. Just keep giving me neg reps with the nasty little messages. That will help you feel better about your sad life. ;) Hilarious!

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:19 PM
What's happening in Cleveland is what happens when one player (Hillis) is your whole offense. If the other team is able to take him away, or he has a bad game, you aren't going to have much success.

God damn, what astute analysis. You must have played your college ball at Ole Miss!

OABB
12-12-2010, 01:20 PM
This thread is getting hillis stupid. Calm down boys.

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:20 PM
Dude, you are getting way defensive. No need to be so defensive. Just keep giving me neg reps with the nasty little messages. That will help you feel better about your sad life. ;) Hilarious!

My life is a lot of things -- it sure as Hell ain't sad! It's below zero today, glorious weather. Love it!

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:20 PM
Comments like these damn near border many relevant conditions for being a sociopath. Sounds like you need a mental health check up.



Everything on the forum can be read that isn't in the out of reach zone or private forums. That is just a fact. Secondly, The Dagda was an account I made up because of a "dare" that was suggested at Outsiders. There have been no others. I don't care if I'm not "wanted" there, and you are the one who keeps on bringing up the homoerotic references. Again, that must be your issue.

Keep up the great work though, I'm sure this Broncos Orange movement and your own forum (even though footing the bill for a site that sucks must be crappy or even having to ask for handouts) fill a serious void in your social life that doesn't exist in what people consider the real world. Which is why you end up blowing a .22 and act like a clown on your own forum.

COOL STORY BRO!

P.S. Assuming that blowing a .22 wasn't you propositioning me (I'm not up on young, gay lingo), if you were referring to blowing my brains out, it wouldn't be with a .22. Come on, .22 is a little boys gun. .40 S&W or .45 at minimum, but why not go 10mm or .50gi.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:23 PM
This thread is getting hillis stupid. Calm down boys.

Sorry, Dream/Requiem has been yapping at my heels like a chihuahua on crack ever since he cried about me putting his quote of "there are 53 players on the team that contributed more to that win than Jake Plummer" in my sig (yea, he's not smart enough to count that high apparently), then went crying to the mods to try and get me banned.

Anyway, sorry for sullying a thread about the great Hillis by jousting with a pole smoker like Req.

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:24 PM
P.S. Assuming that blowing a .22 wasn't you propositioning me (I'm not up on young, gay lingo), if you were referring to blowing my brains out, it wouldn't be with a .22. Come on, .22 is a little boys gun. .40 S&W or .45 at minimum, but why not go 10mm or .50gi.

Reference was alcohol and this:

http://www.broncosforums.com/downloads/P1030192.jpg

I'm not a big fan of guns, only hunt with friends.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:25 PM
Reference was alcohol and this:

http://www.broncosforums.com/downloads/P1030192.jpg

I'm not a big fan of guns, only hunt with friends.

At least not guns that shoot bullets. Smoke them poles, nancy.

Come on, you've only neg repped me six times. You can do better than that.

fontaine
12-12-2010, 01:26 PM
I'm happy for Torain. He always had the potential to be a very good downhill runner but injuries here in Denver never gave him a chance.

He looks like he's really beefed up and playing with a lot more power.

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:29 PM
At least not guns that shoot bullets. Smoke them poles, nancy.

Went bow hunting actually. Good times.

Come on, you've only neg repped me six times. You can do better than that.

I sure as Hell was hoping you would be able to bring more to the table than pejorative gay jokes, but I am assuming that and anti-white jokes is probably all an Arkansas boy would have in his arsenal. :)

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I'm happy for Torain. He always had the potential to be a very good downhill runner but injuries here in Denver never gave him a chance.

He looks like he's really beefed up and playing with a lot more power.

Seems after a few years his lisfranc injury is good and he is able to be more decisive with his cuts and running authority. Shanny sure knows his backs and can get the most out of anyone. Truly remarkable.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:30 PM
My life is a lot of things -- it sure as Hell ain't sad! It's below zero today, glorious weather. Love it!

Ok dude, I don't mind the 7 neg reps (now 8), and think I might have popped rib cartilage laughing about how I should come to the Denver game so you can beat me up and piss on me.

However, this is getting creepy. Please stop sending me things like this:

8====D~~~~ )^:

Come on dude, keep your sexual deviance's in the gay bars.

Requiem
12-12-2010, 01:32 PM
I didn't say beat you up. I said pee on your face. . . and that is me peeing on your face!

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:34 PM
I didn't say beat you up. I said pee on your face. . . and that is me peeing on your face!

Hey dude, I'm not even into that golden shower **** with women. There is no way I am going to go the gay, kink route with you. Damn, come on dude, see a therapist, find a job, discover women.

Dagmar
12-12-2010, 01:38 PM
This thread has taken a turn at the corner of awesome and fabulous!

tnedator
12-12-2010, 01:41 PM
This thread has taken a turn at the corner of awesome and fabulous!

So as to not force this thread into the horses butt, I'll drop this line of discussion with just one final thought.

Come on pole smoker (obviously not referring to you, Dagmar), neg this one to, give me the tenth neg with you creepy little neg rep messages.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-12-2010, 01:48 PM
Come on guys. Torain was hurt way to much, way to often.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 02:07 PM
Come on guys. Torain was hurt way to much, way to often.

What was it Liz franc in college, then dislocated elbow, then did he tear his ACL after coming back from the elbow? I know he missed almost all of '08.

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 02:09 PM
What was it Liz franc in college, then dislocated elbow, then did he tear his ACL after coming back from the elbow? I know he missed almost all of '08.

Yes, all of that. He hadn't been healthy in years.

DHallblows
12-12-2010, 02:11 PM
So as to not force this thread into the horses butt, I'll drop this line of discussion with just one final thought.

Come on pole smoker (obviously not referring to you, Dagmar), neg this one to, give me the tenth neg with you creepy little neg rep messages.

God forbid this POS thread gets moved to the Butt ::)

tnedator
12-12-2010, 02:45 PM
God forbid this POS thread gets moved to the Butt ::)

Hey, that would be near criminal!!

tnedator
12-12-2010, 06:04 PM
Ok, mixed day for Hillis.

Another 100 yard rushing day, but fumbled three times (was almost four, but ruled down) and lost one of them. Topped 1000 yards on the season, but didn't score a TD.

Br0nc0Buster
12-12-2010, 06:10 PM
Hillis is now 5-8, ouch he is having a rough year

Karenin
12-12-2010, 06:14 PM
Yea, I now realize it was unfair of me to compare Hillis to Droughns. Droughns fumbled way less.

broncocalijohn
12-12-2010, 08:42 PM
Everybody in this message board would have cut Torrain too. Getting upset over Torrain is absurd.

Most likely but we need to remember that Ryan Torrain can have his own thread. THis one is for Hillis and I guess for go_broncos to scream in 10 words or less that McDaniels sucks.

OABB
12-12-2010, 08:49 PM
I'm too lazy, but has anyone compared hillis and morenos stats since beadles and Harris moved into their respective positions? I would be curious to see it, but not curious enough to do the homework.

Anyone?

colonelbeef
12-12-2010, 08:51 PM
I'm too lazy, but has anyone compared hillis and morenos stats since beadles and Harris moved into their respective positions? I would be curious to see it, but not curious enough to do the homework.

Anyone?

Another interesting comparison would be their respective draft positions and financial compensation per yard and per td.

The thing that people forget is that Hillis costs next to nothing- this is the beauty of all of these late round gems. It allows you to spend resources elsewhere, rather than blowing the 12th overall pick and cash on less production.

Beantown Bronco
12-12-2010, 08:53 PM
I'm too lazy, but has anyone compared hillis and morenos stats since beadles and Harris moved into their respective positions? I would be curious to see it, but not curious enough to do the homework.

Anyone?

For what it's worth, during the game, the announcers said that Moreno has the 2nd most all purpose yards since week 10 in the entire league (behind only MJD).

OABB
12-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Another interesting comparison would be their respective draft positions and financial compensation per yard and per td.

The thing that people forget is that Hillis costs next to nothing- this is the beauty of all of these late round gems. It allows you to spend resources elsewhere, rather than blowing the 12th overall pick and cash on less production.

Let's see the other one first before we go this way.

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm too lazy, but has anyone compared hillis and morenos stats since beadles and Harris moved into their respective positions? I would be curious to see it, but not curious enough to do the homework.

Anyone?

Moreno has been outperforming Hillis since we got our real offensive line in front of him.

Hillis has done well statistacally. But he's also got a lot more touches than Moreno.

That's counting both passing and rushing.

*edit*

Here's the stats.


Moreno has 366 yards rushing on 67 touches (5.4 YPC). He has 170 yards receiving on 19 receptions. Moreno has one fumble in the past four games.

Hillis has 344 yards rushing on 86 touches (4 YPC). He has 180 yards receiving on 23 receptions. Hillis has three fumbles, all in one game, in the past four games.

DBroncos4life
12-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Hillis is now 5-8, ouch he is having a rough year
Football is a team sport, no?

colonelbeef
12-12-2010, 09:03 PM
the Broncos have Kyle "Hey he's the answer" Orton @ QB in what was a pass happy slant offense. Defenses were keying on the pass attack first in order to shut down the Broncos- and it has worked. Bottom line, the defenses were gearing up to stop the pass first.

The Browns have Jake "100% washed up" Delhomme @ QB leading a non-existent pass attack.

The mere fact that Hillis has been effective at all despite opposing defenses knowing that the Mangini-led Browns are going to be rushing the ball first and foremost is a testament to his abilities as a runner, let alone his above average talent as a receiver out of the backfield.

Rausch 2.0
12-12-2010, 09:04 PM
Moreno has been outperforming Hillis since we got our real offensive line in front of him.

Hillis has done well statistacally. But he's also got a lot more touches than Moreno.

Hillis will also finish the year with 2 games vs. the Steelers and Ravens defenses.

Not exactly the same hill he had to climb in the AFCW...



That's counting both passing and rushing.

Holy $3it, they got him throwing the ball as well?

You guys got hosed...

snowspot66
12-12-2010, 09:06 PM
Hillis will also finish the year with 2 games vs. the Steelers and Ravens defenses.

Not exactly the same hill he had to climb in the AFCW...





Holy $3it, they got him throwing the ball as well?

You guys got hosed...

The Brown's last four games do not include either the Ravens or Steelers. In fact they include the Bills and Panthers. Both league leading defensive stalwarts....

And don't be a douche. You know what I meant.

broncocalijohn
12-12-2010, 09:15 PM
Unlike some here, I never wanted to compare both guys as I always wanted both here. I always thought Hillis would be better in short yardage situations. When Moreno was hurt, it would have been nice to actually have a back healthy and durable. Remember, since we dumped Hillis, McD had to go out and blow a draft pick to pick up Maroney.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 09:24 PM
Moreno has been outperforming Hillis since we got our real offensive line in front of him.

Hillis has done well statistacally. But he's also got a lot more touches than Moreno.

That's counting both passing and rushing.

*edit*

Here's the stats.


Moreno has 366 yards rushing on 67 touches (5.4 YPC). He has 170 yards receiving on 19 receptions. Moreno has one fumble in the past four games.

Hillis has 344 yards rushing on 86 touches (4 YPC). He has 180 yards receiving on 23 receptions. Hillis has three fumbles, all in one game, in the past four games.

You included fumbles, but not TDs. How do those stack up?

Also, as Broncocalijohn pointed out, one intangible that you can't ignore is that the Browns WHOLE offense is Hillis. Leading rusher, leading team in receptions (unless that changed after this week), which means the other teams main goal is to stop Hillis.

bowtown
12-12-2010, 09:27 PM
You included fumbles, but not TDs. How do those stack up?

Also, as Broncocalijohn pointed out, one intangible that you can't ignore is that the Browns WHOLE offense is Hillis. Leading rusher, leading team in receptions (unless that changed after this week), which means the other teams main goal is to stop Hillis.

Moreno has looked an awful lot like our only offense the past two weeks as well.

tnedator
12-12-2010, 09:37 PM
Moreno has looked an awful lot like our only offense the past two weeks as well.

No, he's been the only effective part, because Orton has been so bad. However, when teams are studying the Broncos, they are looking at the high flying offense, and game planning how to shut down Lloyd and Royal and get pressure on Orton. Of course shut down the run, but Moreno hasn't been dominant and has only recently started to run well at all.

In Cleveland, since week 3, Hillis has been the Browns offense and other teams game plan how to stop him. When they succeed by putting 8 and even 9 guys in the box, then the Browns don't really have the weapons to take advantage of the one on one coverage on the receiver(s).

Big difference.

wandlc
12-12-2010, 09:39 PM
Hillis has had to also play with Jake Delhomme at QB the past 3 weeks. McCoy might be a rookie but he has played better than Jake. To beat the Browns teams gameplan to stop Hillis. To beat the Broncos until this week teams gameplan to stop the pass.

Bronco Yoda
12-12-2010, 10:58 PM
All this Hillis and Moreno comparisions. Both are different type runners on different teams now.

Personaly I would have liked to have seen them as a one-two punch. They would have complimented each other very well. '

**** you McD for getting rid of him!

tnedator
12-14-2010, 01:03 PM
Reference was alcohol and this:

http://www.broncosforums.com/downloads/P1030192.jpg

I'm not a big fan of guns, only hunt with friends.

I think we have different definitions of "hunting"... Just saying...

tnedator
12-14-2010, 01:05 PM
All this Hillis and Moreno comparisions. Both are different type runners on different teams now.

Personaly I would have liked to have seen them as a one-two punch. They would have complimented each other very well. '

**** you McD for getting rid of him!

They are different, but I should add that most people mistakenly pigeon hole Hillis as a power back. He's speed is on part with most starting RBs. Not the fastest, CJ types, but your Forte's and such, he's right there. He has no problem getting to the outside and turning it up field. He just has the added ability to run over or toss aside tacklers.

errand
12-14-2010, 02:22 PM
the Broncos have Kyle "Hey he's the answer" Orton @ QB in what was a pass happy slant offense. Defenses were keying on the pass attack first in order to shut down the Broncos- and it has worked. Bottom line, the defenses were gearing up to stop the pass first.

The Browns have Jake "100% washed up" Delhomme @ QB leading a non-existent pass attack.

The mere fact that Hillis has been effective at all despite opposing defenses knowing that the Mangini-led Browns are going to be rushing the ball first and foremost is a testament to his abilities as a runner, let alone his above average talent as a receiver out of the backfield.

So then couldn't one also argue that it's just as amazing that Orton has put up the numbers he has this season since opposing teams know we don't have uberman Hillis in the backfield running wild?

throw in what you clowns have labeled an idiot for a head coach in McDaniels, and a bust as a first round pick in Moreno, with two rooks on the OL, and no Brandon Marshall on the roster, and Scheffler in Detroit, that would make Kyle's season even more amazing using your very own logic, wouldn't it?

colonelbeef
12-14-2010, 06:50 PM
So then couldn't one also argue that it's just as amazing that Orton has put up the numbers he has this season since opposing teams know we don't have uberman Hillis in the backfield running wild?

throw in what you clowns have labeled an idiot for a head coach in McDaniels, and a bust as a first round pick in Moreno, with two rooks on the OL, and no Brandon Marshall on the roster, and Scheffler in Detroit, that would make Kyle's season even more amazing using your very own logic, wouldn't it?

I think it would be more comparable to a WR having a career year with a defense keying on him- say Lloyd, than a QB like Orton.

Nobody is scared of Kyle Orton- they know that unless the pocket is perfect and coverage is lacking, he is a statue waiting to throw the ball into the dirt. When he gets into a rhythm he can make some plays, and had been for the majority of 2010, until teams decided to key on the Lloyd and the passing game and shut it down, which in turn allowed some holes for Moreno to put up some numbers.

Popps
12-14-2010, 07:03 PM
Ok, mixed day for Hillis.

Another 100 yard rushing day, but fumbled three times (was almost four, but ruled down) and lost one of them. Topped 1000 yards on the season, but didn't score a TD.

Did he go to the bathroom?

How many times?

Any idea how that went?

Dagmar
12-14-2010, 07:06 PM
Ok, mixed day for Hillis.

Another 100 yard rushing day, but fumbled three times (was almost four, but ruled down) and lost one of them. Topped 1000 yards on the season, but didn't score a TD.

Why are doing this exactly? Just to make sure the site members keep fighting?

tnedator
12-14-2010, 08:43 PM
Why are doing this exactly? Just to make sure the site members keep fighting?

What are you talking about?

Missouribronc
12-14-2010, 08:48 PM
What are you talking about?

Trolling.

tnedator
12-14-2010, 08:57 PM
Trolling.

You haven't been banned here yet? Did you give up drinking, or do they just not mind nasty drunken rants here?

Missouribronc
12-14-2010, 09:05 PM
The post was trolling. If you've got personal **** to say to me, PM me.

Eldorado
12-14-2010, 09:19 PM
You haven't been banned here yet? Did you give up drinking, or do they just not mind nasty drunken rants here?

Go **** yourself.

Lev Vyvanse
12-14-2010, 09:23 PM
You haven't been banned here yet? Did you give up drinking, or do they just not mind nasty drunken rants here?

Just lost a ton of respect.

tnedator
12-14-2010, 09:24 PM
The post was trolling. If you've got personal **** to say to me, PM me.

Hey, you sought me out Mr. All He Did Was Pick Up the Phone and Say No.

tnedator
12-14-2010, 09:25 PM
Just lost a ton of respect.

You won't see me talk to many people that way, MB is special and not in a good way. He, of all people, should not be calling me or anyone else a troll.

Eldorado
12-14-2010, 09:34 PM
Ok, mixed day for Hillis.

Another 100 yard rushing day, but fumbled three times (was almost four, but ruled down) and lost one of them. Topped 1000 yards on the season, but didn't score a TD.


Did he go to the bathroom?

How many times?

Any idea how that went?


Why are doing this exactly? Just to make sure the site members keep fighting?

Wow. Pwnt.

Hillis nuthugger: go away.

Eldorado
12-14-2010, 09:35 PM
Just lost a ton of respect.

Hey Lev. How's things in the city?

Lev Vyvanse
12-14-2010, 09:40 PM
Hey Lev. How's things in the city?

You know you are bumping this dumb**** thread right? Anyway, good, things will get better after Saturday when the thesis is due.

TheReverend
12-14-2010, 10:36 PM
Havent popped this one open in a week... wow I missed some weird ****.

broncocalijohn
12-14-2010, 10:40 PM
Havent popped this one open in a week... wow I missed some weird ****.

Yeah, people actually backing Missouribronc. I have no clue why as dude got banned over at BF and has proven that he cant have a valid argument against Hillis. But he does love McD for what it is worth.

Boobs McGee
12-14-2010, 11:23 PM
Popps, why don't you just delete this thread already?

Popps
12-15-2010, 01:14 AM
Popps, why don't you just delete this thread already?

... and miss the next 100 pages?

I feel like we're just moments from Peyton's potty updates.

That, or links to some sort of huggable Peyton Pillows.... something fascinating.

broncocalijohn
12-15-2010, 01:35 AM
Popps, why don't you just delete this thread already?

Bronco2438 almost got burned at the last omane weekend tailgate for changing Faneca to Foneco in his Foneco thread. You just cant touch things like this. It is part of the Omane personality like Boob thread and gutless drunk.

BroncoBuff
12-15-2010, 02:41 AM
Why are doing this exactly? Just to make sure the site members keep fighting?

Nothing left to fight about, my friend. Jury rendered a unanimous verdict, appellate courts upheld their finding, the damage is done. Nor should we deny the blunder ... not just a river in Egypt and all that.

Only way to stop all the Hillis crying is for Knowshon to develop.

Play2win
12-15-2010, 05:49 AM
All this Hillis and Moreno comparisions. Both are different type runners on different teams now.

Personaly I would have liked to have seen them as a one-two punch. They would have complimented each other very well. '

**** you McD for getting rid of him!

Man, Tebow / Moreno / Hillis would have been outstanding... A real thundering herd...

colonelbeef
12-15-2010, 05:55 AM
Go **** yourself.

lmao, you are such a child. I am guessing 13 years old

vancejohnson82
12-15-2010, 06:26 AM
Bronco2438 almost got burned at the last omane weekend tailgate for changing Faneca to Foneco in his Foneco thread. You just cant touch things like this. It is part of the Omane personality like Boob thread and gutless drunk.

that Faneca thread died a quick and painful death after the change was made...

Kaylore
12-15-2010, 06:31 AM
Havent popped this one open in a week... wow I missed some weird ****.

Yeah it's a good read to check in now and again. It definitely is not what it started out to be. This page alone is hilarious.

tnedator
12-15-2010, 06:54 AM
I think the Pro Bowl voting updates come out today. Will be interesting to see if Hillis is still in top three.

jhns
12-15-2010, 08:15 AM
Popps, why don't you just delete this thread already?

You can't delete posts/threads after a week or so. It is here to stay.

Gutless Drunk
12-15-2010, 08:58 AM
Havent popped this one open in a week... wow I missed some weird ****.

No kidding..I thought my irrational man crush on Peyton Hillis was weird (no homo). Turns out it's relatively sane compared to some of the psychosis on display here.

Popps
12-15-2010, 10:13 AM
Only way to stop all the Hillis crying is for Knowshon to develop.

Yea, because that hasn't happened lately...

vancejohnson82
12-15-2010, 10:30 AM
Yea, because that hasn't happened lately...

Popps,

Do you even watch the games? The only reason he is getting ANY yards is because the defenses are running a 1-1-9 scheme to stop the passing game. But Kyle Orton sucks and we should have never gotten rid of Marshall or Cutler, so I don't know why teams are doing this.

Wait a second...

tnedator
12-16-2010, 05:06 PM
Yesterday's release of Pro-Bowl voting has Hillis second in AFC (RB's), only 48,000 behind foster.

So, is this deserved or has Browns fans just fallen victim to the same cult-like fascination that Broncos fans did, and have been flooding NFL.com to vote for him?

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:09 PM
Yesterday's release of Pro-Bowl voting has Hillis second in AFC (RB's), only 48,000 behind foster.

So, is this deserved or has Browns fans just fallen victim to the same cult-like fascination that Broncos fans did, and have been flooding NFL.com to vote for him?

He's 5th in rushing yards.... in the AFC. He's 10th overall.

Hillis is fun to watch run. This is no Pro Bowl season, but we've seen plenty of players get into the Pro Bowl for reasons other than actual production.

If he gets in, good for him! Dude will land a nice pay-day for it.

But, are those Pro Bowl numbers this year? Of course not.

bowtown
12-16-2010, 05:10 PM
Yesterday's release of Pro-Bowl voting has Hillis second in AFC (RB's), only 48,000 behind foster.

So, is this deserved or has Browns fans just fallen victim to the same cult-like fascination that Broncos fans did, and have been flooding NFL.com to vote for him?

It's mostly becasue he's white.

go_broncos
12-16-2010, 05:12 PM
He's 5th in rushing yards.... in the AFC. He's 10th overall.

Hillis is fun to watch run. This is no Pro Bowl season, but we've seen plenty of players get into the Pro Bowl for reasons other than actual production.

If he gets in, good for him! Dude will land a nice pay-day for it.

But, are those Pro Bowl numbers this year? Of course not.

Keep hating him..Your lover boy is fired..
Go back to your room and keep crying

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:14 PM
He's 5th in rushing yards.... in the AFC. He's 10th overall.

Hillis is fun to watch run. This is no Pro Bowl season, but we've seen plenty of players get into the Pro Bowl for reasons other than actual production.

If he gets in, good for him! Dude will land a nice pay-day for it.

But, are those Pro Bowl numbers this year? Of course not.

I'm not a Hillis fanatic by any means, but now you're just trying to be contrarian about the whole thing because you were caught being wrong. I mean, I'd think being such a big Moreno fan (and I am too) you'd look closer at yards from scrimmage and include receiving and scoring?

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:14 PM
It's mostly becasue he's white.

I thought that was the most ludicrous line of reasoning when it was first bandied about around here a couple years ago. But, the infatuation that has ensued actually makes me wonder.

Guys like Bradshaw and Mendehnall are having similar or better seasons from a production standpoint, and you just don't see this kind of drooling, cult-like man-worship over those guys.

I'm going to give people a little more credit and just assume that it's his running style. People like to watch bruisers run. (Campbell, etc.) Bradshaw may put up better numbers, but doesn't make highlight reel-type runs very often. People like the fact that this is a big dude running over people. Does the fact that he's white hurt him? Probably not. There's certainly a novelty to that. Could it have affected the voting? I have no idea. I wouldn't put anything past the average fan after seeing some of the posts on this thread.

go_broncos
12-16-2010, 05:17 PM
I thought that was the most ludicrous line of reasoning when it was first bandied about around here a couple years ago. But, the infatuation that has ensued actually makes me wonder.

Guys like Bradshaw and Mendehnall are having similar or better seasons from a production standpoint, and you just don't see this kind of drooling, cult-like man-worship over those guys.

I'm going to give people a little more credit and just assume that it's his running style. People like to watch bruisers run. (Campbell, etc.) Bradshaw may put up better numbers, but doesn't make highlight reel-type runs very often. People like the fact that this is a big dude running over people. Does the fact that he's white hurt him? Probably not. There's certainly a novelty to that. Could it have affected the voting? I have no idea. I wouldn't put anything past the average fan after seeing some of the posts on this thread.

Well..you preached us how great Mcd is...He got fired...
Still you didn't change..you keep thinking that Mcd did right in trading Hillis for Quinn..
You know nothing about Football..

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:17 PM
I'm not a Hillis fanatic by any means, but now you're just trying to be contrarian about the whole thing because you were caught being wrong.

Again, Rev... I expect you to be smarter than the average mouth-breahter around here.

I wasn't "wrong" about Hillis... ever. Read the OP. I simply asked a question that we were all wondering. (Why isn't he playing.)

Did I give Shanahan and McDaniels credit for being able to evaluate him better than your average message board poster? Sure.

Was I "wrong" about Hillis?

Of course not. I told you people he should have been a starter back in 08.

I simply speculated that there may be some practice-related reason he wasn't able to capture a starting RB position without injury.

That is a scenario that played out under not one..... not two... but three different head coaches. No head coach to date has made Hillis a starter without injury being the reason.

I simply asked why, and offered speculation which was really an article someone else wrote.

So, no one was "wrong" about anything. But, I'm happy to have contributed the thread to give people something to do with their lives. :wave:

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:18 PM
I thought that was the most ludicrous line of reasoning when it was first bandied about around here a couple years ago. But, the infatuation that has ensued actually makes me wonder.

Guys like Bradshaw and Mendehnall are having similar or better seasons from a production standpoint, and you just don't see this kind of drooling, cult-like man-worship over those guys.

No they aren't... several hundred less yards from scrimmage and a handful less TDs.

I'm going to give people a little more credit and just assume that it's his running style. People like to watch bruisers run. (Campbell, etc.) Bradshaw may put up better numbers, but doesn't make highlight reel-type runs very often. People like the fact that this is a big dude running over people. Does the fact that he's white hurt him? Probably not. There's certainly a novelty to that. Could it have affected the voting? I have no idea. I wouldn't put anything past the average fan after seeing some of the posts on this thread.

Bradshaw has 13 runs over 20 yards, Mendenhall has 9 and Hillis has 5...

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:19 PM
I mean, I'd think being such a big Moreno fan (and I am too) you'd look closer at yards from scrimmage and include receiving and scoring?

Sure... are we going to include fumbles, then?

Hillis has had a great season. Is it Pro Bowl worthy? Doesn't seem like the 5th leading runner in the AFC would make the Pro Bowl, but again... Jay Cutler went over Rivers, so I hope people aren't putting any real credibility in this stuff. It's a nice accolade, nothing more.

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:20 PM
Again, Rev... I expect you to be smarter than the average mouth-breahter around here.

I wasn't "wrong" about Hillis... ever. Read the OP. I simply asked a question that we were all wondering. (Why isn't he playing.)

Did I give Shanahan and McDaniels credit for being able to evaluate him better than your average message board poster? Sure.

Was I "wrong" about Hillis?

Of course not. I told you people he should have been a starter back in 08.

I simply speculated that there may be some practice-related reason he wasn't able to capture a starting RB position without injury.

That is a scenario that played out under not one..... not two... but three different head coaches. No head coach to date has made Hillis a starter without injury being the reason.

I simply asked why, and offered speculation which was really an article someone else wrote.

So, no one was "wrong" about anything. But, I'm happy to have contributed the thread to give people something to do with their lives. :wave:

I'm very aware of your history with loving Hillis. Since then, you've been far from gracious about his talents and, now, his success.

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm very aware of your history with loving Hillis. Since then, you've been far from gracious about his talents and, now, his success.

Really?

You'll have to point out where I denigrated his talents.

In fact, the OP states clearly and in no uncertain terms that I think he's very talented.

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:25 PM
Sure... are we going to include fumbles, then?

Hillis has had a great season. Is it Pro Bowl worthy? Doesn't seem like the 5th leading runner in the AFC would make the Pro Bowl, but again... Jay Cutler went over Rivers, so I hope people aren't putting any real credibility in this stuff. It's a nice accolade, nothing more.

I think we absolutely should include fumbles (Bradshaw lost just as many, btw, but not Mendenhall).

And, yes, he's absolutely having a pro bowl season. Every rusher above him has less yards from scrimmage outside of Foster and MJD eeks him out by a touch but has almost half the touchdowns.

Al Wilson
12-16-2010, 05:28 PM
He's 5th in rushing yards.... in the AFC. He's 10th overall.

Hillis is fun to watch run. This is no Pro Bowl season, but we've seen plenty of players get into the Pro Bowl for reasons other than actual production.

If he gets in, good for him! Dude will land a nice pay-day for it.

But, are those Pro Bowl numbers this year? Of course not.
Dude, the only reason the Browns are even competing in games is because of Hillis. The man totally carried them to victory over the Patriots by himself. And that's just one team that I mentioned. He has what? 15 TDs or so already? I think that's amazing for a Browns running back.

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:30 PM
I think we absolutely should include fumbles (Bradshaw lost just as many, btw, but not Mendenhall).

And, yes, he's absolutely having a pro bowl season. Every rusher above him has less yards from scrimmage outside of Foster and MJD eeks him out by a touch but has almost half the touchdowns.

Foster and MJD should be absolute locks.

But, Hillis could get in as a third back if people factor in receiving yards.

I highly doubt that's why he's being considered at all, though. I think people like watching him run.... which is great. The Pro Bowl is a spectator's game... voted on by the fans.

I wish the guy luck. I'll be riding his yardage (hopefully) to win $$ in my fantasy playoffs this weekend.

tnedator
12-16-2010, 05:30 PM
Sure... are we going to include fumbles, then?

Hillis has had a great season. Is it Pro Bowl worthy? Doesn't seem like the 5th leading runner in the AFC would make the Pro Bowl, but again... Jay Cutler went over Rivers, so I hope people aren't putting any real credibility in this stuff. It's a nice accolade, nothing more.

Apparently, many fans, media and football experts are able to look past stats, where you can't, and actually evaluate his performance -- number of plays, defense keying on him, yards from scrimmage, etc.

As they don't have the need to be 'right' about slamming him, they can be more objective. Hey, but we need guys like you too, to keep things interesting, so it's all good.

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:30 PM
Dude, the only reason the Browns are even competing in games is because of Hillis. The man totally carried them to victory over the Patriots by himself. And that's just one team that I mentioned. He has what? 15 TDs or so already? I think that's amazing for a Browns running back.

13 in 12 starts. Impressive production for a one man show for sure.

TheReverend
12-16-2010, 05:31 PM
Foster and MJD should be absolute locks.

But, Hillis could get in as a third back if people factor in receiving yards.

I highly doubt that's why he's being considered at all, though. I think people like watching him run.... which is great. The Pro Bowl is a spectator's game... voted on by the fans.

I wish the guy luck. I'll be riding his yardage (hopefully) to win $$ in my fantasy playoffs this weekend.

Go ahead. Pick 3 AFC backs and give your justification.

Highly doubt you can do a fair one without including him.

tnedator
12-16-2010, 05:31 PM
Foster and MJD should be absolute locks.

But, Hillis could get in as a third back if people factor in receiving yards.

I highly doubt that's why he's being considered at all, though. I think people like watching him run.... which is great. The Pro Bowl is a spectator's game... voted on by the fans.



Wow, I don't have all the history to understand why, but boy do you sound bitter. lol

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:31 PM
Dude, the only reason the Browns are even competing in games is because of Hillis. The man totally carried them to victory over the Patriots by himself. And that's just one team that I mentioned. He has what? 15 TDs or so already? I think that's amazing for a Browns running back.

Absolutely. The Browns have a nice line, and no other offensive weapons. So, they've had to lean on Hillis and he's responded well.

That said, I think the Browns have won like 4 games all season. So, it may be a stretch to say they're "competing."

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=Popps;3048606]
Wow, I don't have all the history to understand why, but boy do you sound bitter. lol

From what I've been told by most people... you don't have the history to understand much at all.

Bitter?

Why would I be bitter about a guy who's not on our team... and yet still helping me, personally? (Win money.)

I hope he runs for 300 yards this weekend.

The conversation involved his Pro Bowl worthiness, which to me... is questionable considering his rushing totals at this point in the year.

But, if he makes it in... great for him! Who's bitter? Why would it matter?

tnedator
12-16-2010, 05:34 PM
Absolutely. The Browns have a nice line, and no other offensive weapons. So, they've had to lean on Hillis and he's responded well.

That said, I think the Browns have won like 4 games all season. So, it may be a stretch to say they're "competing."

They've won 5 games, but who's counting...

Certainly not us Broncos fans that have two less....

Al Wilson
12-16-2010, 05:34 PM
Absolutely. The Browns have a nice line, and no other offensive weapons. So, they've had to lean on Hillis and he's responded well.

That said, I think the Browns have won like 4 games all season. So, it may be a stretch to say they're "competing."
What does it mean when they are in games during the 4th quarter ? They lost a lot of close games this year.

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:37 PM
Go ahead. Pick 3 AFC backs and give your justification.

Highly doubt you can do a fair one without including him.

Foster and MJD are obvious locks.

After that, you've got the Chris Johnson, Hillis, Jamaal Charles crowd. Hillis has the least yards rushing in that group, but he does have better TD numbers.

Is Hillis more important to his team than Charles or Johnson? I doubt it, if so... only because Cleveland doesn't have any offensive wepons.

If Denver could land Chris Johnson or Peyton Hillis tomorrow, which one would you choose?

It'll be interesting. Again, doesn't affect my life as a Broncos fan, so I wish Hillis the best.

2KBack
12-16-2010, 05:38 PM
They've won 5 games, but who's counting...

Certainly not us Broncos fans that have two less....

Are you counting? Until your post I don't think I could have told you the Browns record.

tnedator
12-16-2010, 05:40 PM
From what I've been told by most people... you don't have the history to understand much at all.

Oh, that hurt. I'm not sure how I will survive that little dig.

That said, my ego just grew a little bigger hearing that most people are talking about me. ****, I didn't even think a 'few' people knew who I was.



Bitter?

Why would I be bitter about a guy who's not on our team... and yet still helping me, personally? (Win money.)


Great question. I've been trying to figure that out. Care to enlighten us?

The conversation involved his Pro Bowl worthiness, which to me... is questionable considering his rushing totals at this point in the year.

Any knowledgable fan looks beyond just rushing totals, but then again, we are talking about you...

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:41 PM
Let's make a deal...

As long as Hillis goes absolutely ape-**** and runs for 200 yards a game the next two weekends, we can put him in the Pro Bowl.

I'll make big $$$.... and you all can continue the male-on-male Hillis circle jerk for the rest of eternity?

:)

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:42 PM
Any knowledgable fan looks beyond just rushing totals, but then again, we are talking about you...

Yea, those knowledgeable fans put Cutler in the Pro Bowl over Rivers.

Gutless Drunk
12-16-2010, 05:48 PM
Yea, those knowledgeable fans put Cutler in the Pro Bowl over Rivers.

Actually they put Favre in over Rivers.. Farve was the one who had no business in that game. Your point is the same though.

Popps
12-16-2010, 05:51 PM
Actually they put Favre in over Rivers.. Farve was the one who had no business in that game. Your point is the same though.

Yea, I think Favre and Cutler were 1 and 2 in INTs that year.

So, let's keep Pro Bowl voting in perspective.


Hillis making the Pro Bowl means nothing.

His production on the field is all that matters, and that's been excellent this season.

broncocalijohn
12-17-2010, 01:31 PM
Really?

You'll have to point out where I denigrated his talents.

In fact, the OP states clearly and in no uncertain terms that I think he's very talented.

How about the posts last month or so about how most of his big runs are compared to a big rig rolling through it? Dont pull the wool over our eyes, we know exactly how you have downgraded Hillis when it was convienent to do so once your guy, McD, traded him. You love revisionist history but the proof is in these posts from months back. Comedy is you keep referrring to being "one of the first to love Hillis" but forget to tell us all the times you were ripping on his "brains" or production. Funny, you call out some of the posters in this thread when at least they are honest with everyone else and themselves. You have yourself believing in the not hating on him but this thread many pages back say otherwise. I found those quotes and bumped them, can you do the same for those that hated on him then thought he was something special? If you can, do they in denial about ever hating on him? Popps, that is the problem with everyone here on you is the fact you are a revisionist on Hillis. Here is the facts that we have come up with an a nutshell and has been stated before and that is if Hillis wasnt good enough for McDaniels then he wasnt good enough for you. Anyone in the Hillis camp would agree with that statement 100% or at least damn close to it. Now that McDaniels is toast and has been proved horribly wrong on the trade of Hillis, it is safe to come back to reality. Egos can be patched and repaired, dying brain cells cannot. Simply stating is stop trying to compliment Hillis while bagging on him at the same time. It is like you want to be included on the Hillis bandwagon but want to play Devil's advocate also.

broncocalijohn
12-17-2010, 01:33 PM
Let's make a deal...

As long as Hillis goes absolutely ape-**** and runs for 200 yards a game the next two weekends, we can put him in the Pro Bowl.

I'll make big $$$.... and you all can continue the male-on-male Hillis circle jerk for the rest of eternity?

:)

As long as we can vote on if McDaniels gets us two wins out of the next 3 games, you are on. Oh wait, never mind.

I would make big $$$.... and you all can continue the male-on-male McDaniels circle jerk for the rest of eternity?

Gort
12-17-2010, 01:44 PM
They've won 5 games, but who's counting...

Certainly not us Broncos fans that have two less....

there's one report in Cleveland that the Browns have already decided to fire Mangini at the end of the year no matter how they play from this point forward.

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/12/stick-a-fork-in-eric-mangini

looks like Hillis will get his 4th HC next year in as many years in the league. maybe we can get the their new HC to trade him back to our new HC in exchange for Brady Quinn?

:)

Taco John
12-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Hillis making the Pro Bowl means nothing.




Hilarious!

Tell that to his agent.

broncocalijohn
12-17-2010, 01:49 PM
there's one report in Cleveland that the Browns have already decided to fire Mangini at the end of the year no matter how they play from this point forward.

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/12/stick-a-fork-in-eric-mangini

looks like Hillis will get his 4th HC next year in as many years in the league. maybe we can get the their new HC to trade him back to our new HC in exchange for Brady Quinn?:)

only if that doofus is named McDaniels.

Gort
12-17-2010, 01:51 PM
How about the posts last month or so about how most of his big runs are compared to a big rig rolling through it? Dont pull the wool over our eyes, we know exactly how you have downgraded Hillis when it was convienent to do so once your guy, McD, traded him. You love revisionist history but the proof is in these posts from months back. Comedy is you keep referrring to being "one of the first to love Hillis" but forget to tell us all the times you were ripping on his "brains" or production. Funny, you call out some of the posters in this thread when at least they are honest with everyone else and themselves. You have yourself believing in the not hating on him but this thread many pages back say otherwise. I found those quotes and bumped them, can you do the same for those that hated on him then thought he was something special? If you can, do they in denial about ever hating on him? Popps, that is the problem with everyone here on you is the fact you are a revisionist on Hillis. Here is the facts that we have come up with an a nutshell and has been stated before and that is if Hillis wasnt good enough for McDaniels then he wasnt good enough for you. Anyone in the Hillis camp would agree with that statement 100% or at least damn close to it. Now that McDaniels is toast and has been proved horribly wrong on the trade of Hillis, it is safe to come back to reality. Egos can be patched and repaired, dying brain cells cannot. Simply stating is stop trying to compliment Hillis while bagging on him at the same time. It is like you want to be included on the Hillis bandwagon but want to play Devil's advocate also.

here's the thing... i have no axe to grind about Popps one way or the other. he just can't admit he was wrong. that's why this thread will go on forever. if he would just come out and say "Oops! i was wrong. we should have kept Hillis. the rumors about why McD wouldn't play him have never been confirmed, so it appears there was a personal conflict of some sort between the two, which is regrettable for Broncos fans.", then thsi thread would die very quickly. but i think it's now a matter of pride for Popps to NOT admit he was wrong and also not admit that he's taken every conceivable position position on the Hillis/McD "conflict" so that he can say "I agree with you, please see my previous post" so that no matter what argument you bring up, he can continue ducking the substance of the argument.

it sucks that Hillis is gone. he's a gamer. maybe he was bad at practice. maybe McD didn't like him. maybe he didn't get a fair chance under McD. none of it matters. the people involved have all moved on. bad for us. good for Cleveland. after breaking their hearts a couple of times in the 80's, i figure it's kind of a good thing they "stole" Hillis from us. now they can have some closure. we got a couple of superbowl appearances. they got a RB. let's call it even. :)

vancejohnson82
12-17-2010, 02:05 PM
here's the thing... i have no axe to grind about Popps one way or the other. he just can't admit he was wrong. that's why this thread will go on forever. if he would just come out and say "Oops! i was wrong. we should have kept Hillis. the rumors about why McD wouldn't play him have never been confirmed, so it appears there was a personal conflict of some sort between the two, which is regrettable for Broncos fans.", then thsi thread would die very quickly. but i think it's now a matter of pride for Popps to NOT admit he was wrong and also not admit that he's taken every conceivable position position on the Hillis/McD "conflict" so that he can say "I agree with you, please see my previous post" so that no matter what argument you bring up, he can continue ducking the substance of the argument.

it sucks that Hillis is gone. he's a gamer. maybe he was bad at practice. maybe McD didn't like him. maybe he didn't get a fair chance under McD. none of it matters. the people involved have all moved on. bad for us. good for Cleveland. after breaking their hearts a couple of times in the 80's, i figure it's kind of a good thing they "stole" Hillis from us. now they can have some closure. we got a couple of superbowl appearances. they got a RB. let's call it even. :)

I still can't find where Popps EVER said anything negative about Hillis....

Dedhed
12-17-2010, 02:18 PM
In order to make the Pro Bowl Hillis has to beat out at least 3 of the following Players:

Arian Foster
Maurice Jones-Drew
Jamaal Charles
Rashard Mendenhall
Chris Johnson
Darren McFadden

Sorry, but if that happens it pretty much proves the "White Bias" theory.

Gort
12-17-2010, 02:19 PM
I still can't find where Popps EVER said anything negative about Hillis....

first, let me ask you a question. if i said the following,

"i have heard from reliable sources that vancejohnson82 is lazy and stupid. i have no reason to doubt the person who told me this. i don't know if it's true, but if it is, then it would explain why vancejohnson82's posts are so unreadable and full of falsehoods." - *

would you consider that negative?

if your answer is "yes", then you can find Popps saying plenty of negative things about Hillis in the very first post of this thread. in fact, that's why he started this thread... to pass along some completely unsubstantiated negative rumors about Hillis as if they were facts.

* - nothing personal, just using your username for this example.

broncocalijohn
12-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Wow, a simple thread started to offer a little insight on a fairly obvious situation about a 4th string RB, and we're going to easily top 1000 posts.

Vance stuff like this from Popps is what keeps this thread going when he responds to pretty much the opposite. This is on page 38 and you can go either way from this page to read other responses which basically is something is wrong with Hillis mentally as he cant even get on the field. As we now know, nothing is wrong with Hillis. Something was wrong with the head coach.

Archer81
12-17-2010, 02:23 PM
Can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are shooting stars? Cuz I could really use a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now.


:Broncos:

bendog
12-17-2010, 02:26 PM
hillis came back for his senior year after losing touches to be a blocker for Mcfadden and Jones, so he can't be real smart, and he does have that accent. (-:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arkansas-logo-ball-signed-Peyton-Hillis-D-McFadden-coa-/250742613461

tiresome thread though. But oddly funny.

broncocalijohn
12-17-2010, 02:26 PM
Can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are shooting stars? Cuz I could really use a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now.


:Broncos:

You can always wish you didnt type the following post and believe that **** McD was dishing out (or not stating at all) but it is here for all to see....

This thread amazes me. Moreno and Buckhalter are the guys. Not that difficult a concept to accept. Hillis not taking more a role in the offense says more about him than about McDaniels.

There is no conspiracy. There is no favoritism, and on the part of some a pure disregard for reality. All this attention focused on a 4th string HB and a 2nd string FB...come on now.

:Broncos:

Gort
12-17-2010, 02:31 PM
In order to make the Pro Bowl Hillis has to beat out at least 3 of the following Players:

Arian Foster
Maurice Jones-Drew
Jamaal Charles
Rashard Mendenhall
Chris Johnson
Darren McFadden

Sorry, but if that happens it pretty much proves the "White Bias" theory.

what is this "white bias" theory? are you trying to say that Len Bias was secretly a white guy?

bendog
12-17-2010, 02:36 PM
My theory is that McD just wanted to have more black guys to watch in the shower. (-;

Archer81
12-17-2010, 02:38 PM
You can always wish you didnt type the following post and believe that **** McD was dishing out (or not stating at all) but it is here for all to see....


? And I still believe no conspiracy existed about Hillis. I never said he was a **** player. I just did not and still dont understand the angst over him not playing and then eventually getting sent away, because while he was here, he was a backup. That is a statement of fact.

And you didnt answer if we can pretend airplanes in the nightsky are shooting stars.

:Broncos:

Gort
12-17-2010, 03:11 PM
? And I still believe no conspiracy existed about Hillis. I never said he was a **** player. I just did not and still dont understand the angst over him not playing and then eventually getting sent away, because while he was here, he was a backup. That is a statement of fact.

And you didnt answer if we can pretend airplanes in the nightsky are shooting stars.

:Broncos:

it's pretty simple. starting in the Ravens game last year, the Broncos had become unable to move the ball on the ground. we saw that Hillis could make plays when given a chance in 2008, but we couldn't understand why McD wouldn't give the guy a chance when Moreno and others were obviously not getting it done last year. on top of that, McD jumped at the chance to trade Hillis and a draft pick in exchange for a player that Cleveland was nearly ready to waive during the offseason. we just didn't understand what looked to many of us to be a vendetta against Hillis by McD. we don't know why he refused to give the guy a chance. that's it. not because he was white or any nonsense like that. just because we saw how Hillis played in 2008 when finally given a chance and we saw how much we could have used somebody like that last year, yet McD refused to give him a chance... for whatever reason, we still don't know.

Archer81
12-17-2010, 03:16 PM
it's pretty simple. starting in the Ravens game last year, the Broncos had become unable to move the ball on the ground. we saw that Hillis could make plays when given a chance in 2008, but we couldn't understand why McD wouldn't give the guy a chance when Moreno and others were obviously not getting it done last year. on top of that, McD jumped at the chance to trade Hillis and a draft pick in exchange for a player that Cleveland was nearly ready to waive during the offseason. we just didn't understand what looked to many of us to be a vendetta against Hillis by McD. we don't know why he refused to give the guy a chance. that's it. not because he was white or any nonsense like that. just because we saw how Hillis played in 2008 when finally given a chance and we saw how much we could have used somebody like that last year, yet McD refused to give him a chance... for whatever reason, we still don't know.


And probably never will. McDaniels did not like Peyton Hillis. This much is obvious. And like I said eons ago in this thread, he's gone. Flagellating ourselves over it and wishing maybe if wont bring him back. Sucks, but sometimes that happens in the NFL and the team loses out on talented players because of personality conflicts. This happens to other teams as well, not just Denver.

:Broncos:

Kaylore
12-17-2010, 03:21 PM
Peyton Hillis is made of poo!!!!!!

SureShot
12-17-2010, 03:29 PM
Peyton Hillis eats babies.

Gutless Drunk
12-17-2010, 03:29 PM
And probably never will. McDaniels did not like Peyton Hillis. This much is obvious. And like I said eons ago in this thread, he's gone. Flagellating ourselves over it and wishing maybe if wont bring him back. Sucks, but sometimes that happens in the NFL and the team loses out on talented players because of personality conflicts. This happens to other teams as well, not just Denver.

:Broncos:

or maybe people are neither flagellating themselves or wishing "maybe if"
but instead are just fans of the kid and like having a thread to talk about his success?

After all there is one for fans of Glee.
I don't care about Glee thus I don't click on that thread.

Archer81
12-17-2010, 03:33 PM
or maybe people are neither flagellating themselves or wishing "maybe if"
but instead are just fans of the kid and like having a thread to talk about his success?

After all there is one for fans of Glee.
I don't care about Glee thus I don't click on that thread.


The glee thread has transformed into a discussion on beer and the best beer states.

If that is the case with this thread, that its to celebrate a much beloved player who is no longer a Bronco, then why does it remain in the Central discussion forum?

:Broncos:

Dedhed
12-17-2010, 03:37 PM
are just fans of the kid and like having a thread to talk about his success?
.

I don't get why people are fans of players from other teams.

Gutless Drunk
12-17-2010, 03:41 PM
The glee thread has transformed into a discussion on beer and the best beer states.

Oh..I did not know this..thanks for the heads up. Beer does interest me..I'm back in!

Gutless Drunk
12-17-2010, 03:43 PM
I don't get why people are fans of players from other teams.

Because people are different? Some people even like baseball!

Archer81
12-17-2010, 03:44 PM
Because people are different? Some people even like baseball!


Communists...


:Broncos:

Gort
12-17-2010, 04:06 PM
The glee thread has transformed into a discussion on beer and the best beer states.

If that is the case with this thread, that its to celebrate a much beloved player who is no longer a Bronco, then why does it remain in the Central discussion forum?

:Broncos:

this thread stopped being about Hillis 100 pages ago.

it's now about Popps.

Homer Simpson
12-17-2010, 04:47 PM
Peyton Hillis is made of poo!!!!!!

hillis?

http://www.moviemobsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/rubberpoopmonster.jpg

Lev Vyvanse
12-17-2010, 04:57 PM
This thread is like the Anti-Neck Pony Nation!!!

loborugger
12-17-2010, 06:01 PM
This thread is like the Anti-Neck Pony Nation!!!

I was thinking that exact same thing - or more that it replaced the Neck Pony Nation. In light of that...

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Eldorado
12-17-2010, 09:17 PM
This thread is like the Anti-Neck Pony Nation!!!

Wait...I thought we weren't supposed to bump this thread. And what's with kaylore? I thought he was the conductor on the 'hillis is too stupid' train? Or did I misremember?

Lev Vyvanse
12-17-2010, 09:32 PM
Wait...I thought we weren't supposed to bump this thread. And what's with kaylore? I thought he was the conductor on the 'hillis is too stupid' train? Or did I misremember?

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razorwire77
12-17-2010, 09:53 PM
139 pages, and I haven't posted in this thread. Time to live in the now.

Hi!

Eldorado
12-17-2010, 10:01 PM
Anybody know who that asshole speardog usa is? Just curious.

Eldorado
12-17-2010, 10:02 PM
negged
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OMFG. You have been on the interwebs way too much. I don't think this is what al gore intended.

Eldorado
12-17-2010, 10:03 PM
On a personal note, I saw the unedited version of that back in the day. So, take from that what you will.

Lev Vyvanse
12-18-2010, 02:25 AM
Anybody know who that a-hole speardog usa is? Just curious.

It's Atlas.

TomServo
12-18-2010, 03:08 AM
knowshons longest run in 2009 was 36 yards. in 2010 its 24 yards. does that sound like the #12 pick in the entire draft? yay his ypc is up yay. O for the posters that compare his #s to the other turd RB's in that draft. woohoo K M sucks Less.

Karenin
12-18-2010, 04:56 AM
I recognize English words in that post, yet I cannot understand any of it.

Bronco Yoda
12-19-2010, 06:28 PM
Todays game is a perfect example of why we needed a Hillis today. Doubtful Hillis would have dropped that TD pass to Ball considering he had the best hands on the team.

And wouldn't it have been nice to have someone who could easily cover Larsen's FB position when he got hurt.

Thank you McD.

SoCalBronco
12-19-2010, 06:35 PM
Imagine Hillis and Tebow in the same backfield.

SICK.

Dammit Josh.

Taco John
12-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Imagine Hillis and Tebow in the same backfield.

SICK.

Dammit Josh.

How could he not see that potential? I am so glad he's gone.

SoCalBronco
12-19-2010, 06:39 PM
How could he not see that potential? I am so glad he's gone.

To be fair, I don't think the league would have permitted it anyway, Taco. A few games of Tebow and Hillis together and Goodell would have called it off because of the inherent "unfairness" for the other team.

There would have been LEGENDARY times on the Mane if those guys were both starting on this team. We don't have anything in the english language that can fully capture it. Epic doesn't do it justice.

SoCalBronco
12-19-2010, 06:47 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/012/733/103532444_crop_340x234.jpg?1282490117

http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/tim_tebow_biceps.jpg

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2010/10/TRex101810-thumb-550x459-49455.jpg

Am I the only one not surprised that both Tebow and Hillis's arms are bigger than the T-Rex's?

:)

Pony Boy
12-20-2010, 11:51 AM
Does anyone here think Hillis would leave the game with a "thigh bruise".............. Moreno is a puss.

Karenin
12-20-2010, 12:52 PM
No way would've Hillis left the game. The Browns needed every one of his 58 yards on their way to defeat.

Pony Boy
12-20-2010, 01:01 PM
No way would've Hillis left the game. The Browns needed every one of his 58 yards on their way to defeat.

Bengals DT Domata Peko confirmed that his team's game plan against the Browns was geared totally toward stopping Peyton Hillis. Do you think Oklands entire game plan was to totally stop Moreno? Moreno was like a gnat on an elephants ass.

DHallblows
12-20-2010, 03:27 PM
Bengals DT Domata Peko confirmed that his team's game plan against the Browns was geared totally toward stopping Peyton Hillis. Do you think Oklands entire game plan was to totally stop Moreno? Moreno was like a gnat on an elephants ass.

No, it was to stop someone who's potentially a bigger threat then Moreno or Hillis: Tim Tebow. Does Cleveland even HAVE WR's ??? I had to look up their depth chart to name either of their top 2 WRs: Massaquoi and Robiskie. Denver actually has WRs that can do something (along with a QB).
But don't worry about that. I too am so sooo surprised that our RB in a pass first O hasn't been game planned for all season while the RB in a run only O has been ::)

TheReverend
12-20-2010, 03:29 PM
No, it was to stop someone who's potentially a bigger threat then Moreno or Hillis: Tim Tebow. Does Cleveland even HAVE WR's ??? I had to look up their depth chart to name either of their top 2 WRs: Massaquoi and Robiskie. Denver actually has WRs that can do something (along with a QB).
But don't worry about that. I too am so sooo surprised that our RB in a pass first O hasn't been game planned for all season while the RB in a run only O has been ::)

That's kinda what makes Hillis' success this season even more impressive than his gaudy statlines...

Pony Boy
12-20-2010, 03:37 PM
But don't worry about that. I too am so sooo surprised that our RB in a pass first O hasn't been game planned for all season while the RB in a run only O has been ::)

You are missing the point, we have pass first O because we traded Hillis. The thought of Tebow and Hillis in the same backfield gives me a boner and at my age that's pretty cool....;D

tnedator
12-20-2010, 11:23 PM
Bengals DT Domata Peko confirmed that his team's game plan against the Browns was geared totally toward stopping Peyton Hillis. Do you think Oklands entire game plan was to totally stop Moreno? Moreno was like a gnat on an elephants ass.

Yea, that's the part that the Hillis bashers don't get. Since week 4 or 5, opposing defenses have been totally geared towards stopping Hillis. The fact that he has been able to put up the numbers he has, with no passing game thread, with opposing defenses coming in with a "don't let Hillis beat us" game plan, is actually amazing.

As to your thigh bruise. The three games leading up to their bye, he was dealing with a bad thigh bruise he got in practice. He was having to come in and out of the games and limping badly after each play, and was still putting up big numbers. His one handed catch for a TD, which many have seen on the youtube video, was I believe in the first game after the thigh bruise, where he was a game time decision.

colonelbeef
12-20-2010, 11:25 PM
I think it's safe to say that this thread is the biggest backfire/failure on the OM of 2010, and is in the running for the all time title.

Congrats Popps!

tnedator
12-20-2010, 11:31 PM
I think it's safe to say that this thread is the biggest backfire/failure on the OM of 2010, and is in the running for the all time title.

Congrats Popps!

I disagree. I think Popps proved his point. Hillis was clearly too dumb to run in McDaniels offense. Hillis isn't smart enough to know he has to average 2 YPC. He isn't smart enough to not run into the back of his blockers, if the play doesn't work as called. Hillis isn't smart enough to know he should fall down on first contact or trip over the line of scrimmage.

Popps was so, so right, Hillis was clearly too dumb to play in McDaniels offense.

DHallblows
12-20-2010, 11:38 PM
You are missing the point, we have pass first O because we traded Hillis. The thought of Tebow and Hillis in the same backfield gives me a boner and at my age that's pretty cool....;D

I really don't think our pass first offense is because we traded 1 RB away. Josh's offensive scheme is pass heavy regardless of RB talent

Karenin
12-21-2010, 04:12 AM
Yea, that's the part that the Hillis bashers don't get. Since week 4 or 5, opposing defenses have been totally geared towards stopping Hillis.

It's funny that people think that if they repeat this enough it will become true. Colt McCoy is one of the best young passers in the NFL, but no, defenses don't care about him.

tnedator
12-21-2010, 06:08 AM
It's funny that people think that if they repeat this enough it will become true. Colt McCoy is one of the best young passers in the NFL, but no, defenses don't care about him.

Yea, I'll send Bengals DT Domata Peko an email and tell him to stop repeating the lie, he's upsetting Hillis bashers on the Mane. Yep, I'm right on that.

Jesterhole
12-21-2010, 06:16 AM
It's funny that people think that if they repeat this enough it will become true. Colt McCoy is one of the best young passers in the NFL, but no, defenses don't care about him.

Wow, what an amazing point. You totally understand everything you are talking about. Your wisdom is a beacon to us all.

Inkana7
12-21-2010, 09:44 AM
I think it's safe to say that this thread is the biggest backfire/failure on the OM of 2010, and is in the running for the all time title.

Congrats Popps!

The obsession continues.

colonelbeef
12-21-2010, 09:46 AM
The obsession continues.

This is the best thing about the internet- someone's stupidity can be preserved for all eternity so that we may laugh at it interminably

Inkana7
12-21-2010, 09:48 AM
This is the best thing about the internet- someone's stupidity can be preserved for all eternity so that we may laugh at it interminably

If your happiness in life depends on being right on the Internet, then, yeah, sure.

colonelbeef
12-21-2010, 10:06 AM
If your happiness in life depends on being right on the Internet, then, yeah, sure.

Oh cool, more ad hominem

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/331634958_387617c29f.jpg

Pony Boy
12-21-2010, 12:36 PM
It's funny that people think that if they repeat this enough it will become true. Colt McCoy is one of the best young passers in the NFL, but no, defenses don't care about him.

I'm at a loss for words on that statement. :kiddingme

Karenin
12-21-2010, 06:17 PM
That's probably just the Alzheimer's, pops. Why don't you sit this one out?

broncocalijohn
12-21-2010, 06:30 PM
Nice to know Karenin has taken over for Missouri Bronc as guy who wants to receive an F in Hillis Debate. Congrats!

Karenin
12-21-2010, 06:42 PM
who the **** are you?

Popps
12-21-2010, 07:11 PM
The obsession continues.

There's a lot of pent-up emotion on this thread, if you know what I'm saying.

3K posts, and no one really has any idea what they're arguing about, except the fact that they want someone to be "wrong" about something. (Despite the fact that I simply asked a logical question in the OP.)

I'm sure Peyton will come back if they post a few hundred more times, though...

Dagmar
12-21-2010, 07:16 PM
There's a lot of pent-up emotion on this thread, if you know what I'm saying.

3K posts, and no one really has any idea what they're arguing about, except the fact that they want someone to be "wrong" about something. (Despite the fact that I simply asked a logical question in the OP.)

I'm sure Peyton will come back if they post a few hundred more times, though...

Colonelbeefcurtains will come back and say he doesn't care.Then post another 47 billion times about his Browns crush.

Dutch
12-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Last I checked Hillis doesn't play for us anymore and the guy responsible is gone....so.....move on folks, what is done is done...