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Broncoman13
11-22-2009, 09:10 PM
I am more than a little concerned. Knowshon is a player and looks like he could have a very nice career... Too bad he only gets the ball 8 times a game.

Ayers was really showing promise... Then boom, inactive! Was he sick or is he too in McD's doghouse!

Alphonso Smith... when is the last time he made a noticeable play? Sure wish we had our draft pick at this point, that or Ray Mauluga!

McBath has shown some promise...thank god!

Richard Quinn, medicine womanizer... Worthless! Arrested, terrible mistakes on the field, and now in the doghouse.

Olsen and Mckinley NADA. Sure, it takes three years to say with any certainty, but you can also say that a team that is talent deprived should be able to count on their first and second round picks!

Discuss

Soul-Bronco
11-22-2009, 09:12 PM
the ayers thing boggles my mind, maybe keeping him fresh for the giants? this left me scratching my head

Florida_Bronco
11-22-2009, 09:13 PM
Smith is hurt if I not mistaken. Quinn was in the game and had a few key blocks on Moreno's long runs.

Lev Vyvanse
11-22-2009, 09:14 PM
I am more than a little concerned. Knowshon is a player and looks like he could have a very nice career... Too bad he only gets the ball 8 times a game.


He's had one game with less than 8 attempts.

Lolad
11-22-2009, 09:18 PM
the ayers thing boggles my mind, maybe keeping him fresh for the giants? this left me scratching my head

Ayers is not holding the edge on run plays.. Watch the past couple of games when he is in. Alphonso lost his job to a street cb that should tell you a lot about him. Quinn is riding pine why he was picked in the 2nd is beyond me. Olsen is going to sit all of our OLineman have except for Clady and we know why.

Broncoman13
11-22-2009, 09:31 PM
He's had one game with less than 8 attempts.

Fair snuff... So why only 8 carries today. Bellcow him and wear his ass out! You don't draft him to run him occasionally! If anything it shows that our coach shiat his pants today. I am a huge McD fan, but he is in a funk as much as any one player or unit on this team. Popps keeps running the "we weren't going to the SB this year so relax" bit.... So play the ***cing rookies! What do we have to lose?

Broncoman13
11-22-2009, 09:41 PM
Gotta see what the rooks have! They will play and make mistakes, why not get that growth started?!?

TheReverend
11-22-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm more concerned with Moreno's seeming inability to hold onto the football than anything else really. The guy I'm most excited about, and is showing a ton of potential, but can't avoid dropping the ball every other ****ing carry.

bpc
11-22-2009, 09:45 PM
Who would you rather McD selected? Remember, his genius only allowed 44 names on his draft board. Options were limited.

Broncoman13
11-22-2009, 09:51 PM
Who would you rather McD selected? Remember, his genius only allowed 44 names on his draft board. Options were limited.

Was fine with Knowshon, but thought we should gave gone Orakpo. Hated the Ayers pick, wish we would have with Harvin... And yes, I said the same thing during the draft. Mauluga instead of Smith, William Moore instead of McBath (McBath growing on me and proving me wrong), and Shonn Greene instead of Quinn. Talk about somebody that could pound the Rock!

gyldenlove
11-22-2009, 09:51 PM
If we can get hold of whoever taught Tiki Barber to hold on to the damn football Moreno will be all right, but this fumbling of his has to stop, he puts the ball on the ground way too much for someone who doesn't get 25 carries per game.

Ayers is apparently behind Jarvis Moss now, that is never a good thing.

Al Smith is really making that 1st rounder we traded for him seem expensive, he is not getting on the field and when he was on the field he was mostly awful. This guy needs to come a LONG way very fast considering how a number of young DBs are tearing it up.

Mcbath has to step up next game and show that he is more Brian Dawkins than Marquand Manuel.

Richard Quinn, I would be happy if I saw him do anything - how anyone even in the fever pitch of Mcdanielsitis could defend this trade and pick is beyond me - this guy has done jack to show he can take over for Graham, his presence has not made our short yard run game unstoppable and he has yet to show that the 12 catches he had in his entire college career was not his fault.

Broncoman13
11-22-2009, 09:55 PM
I was atleast nice about it dude!

Lolad
11-22-2009, 10:18 PM
Was fine with Knowshon, but thought we should gave gone Orakpo. Hated the Ayers pick, wish we would have with Harvin... And yes, I said the same thing during the draft. Mauluga instead of Smith, William Moore instead of McBath (McBath growing on me and proving me wrong), and Shonn Greene instead of Quinn. Talk about somebody that could pound the Rock!

Just imagine where we would be with these guys @ the helm. Our coach is a "genius" alright

Pick Six
11-22-2009, 10:55 PM
Although not a rookie, I would just like to "thank" Jarvis Moss for his offsides penalty contribution to the game...:drown:

~Crash~
11-22-2009, 11:02 PM
Ray Mauluga Ray Mauluga Ray Mauluga piss on the pick

~Crash~
11-22-2009, 11:03 PM
Although not a rookie, I would just like to "thank" Jarvis Moss for his offsides penalty contribution to the game...:drown:

and that should put him on the bench forever ...hills style .

Popps
11-22-2009, 11:06 PM
We need more info on the Ayers thing. That's troublesome. Maybe he made some big-time errors last week?

Denver724
11-22-2009, 11:12 PM
The Smith pick still wears on me. How can we trade a future 1st rounder for this guy? I still think it has to do with money. Bowlen doesn't want to pay two 1st rounders in 2010. Wish we would have taken the other Smith (Sean Smith with the Dolphins).

~Crash~
11-22-2009, 11:14 PM
We need more info on the Ayers thing. That's troublesome. Maybe he made some big-time errors last week?

He is a MLB is his real problem

Denver724
11-22-2009, 11:21 PM
From Clayton's last call. Pretty much says it all.

On Sunday, first-rounder Robert Ayers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12432) was among four draft choices who were inactive. Halfback Knowshon Moreno (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12516) is the only draft choice who has started. Cornerback Alphonso Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12431), who cost McDaniels next year's first-round pick, is playing behind Ty Law (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=793) as a nickelback.

Popps
11-22-2009, 11:23 PM
From Clayton's last call. Pretty much says it all.

On Sunday, first-rounder Robert Ayers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12432) was among four draft choices who were inactive. Halfback Knowshon Moreno (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12516) is the only draft choice who has started. Cornerback Alphonso Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12431), who cost McDaniels next year's first-round pick, is playing behind Ty Law (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=793) as a nickelback.

These guys will get their chance. McDaniels has shown that. Moreno is a rook, and starting. Ayers started most of the season, or at least played heavily.

Smith? We'll see. My guess is that McDaniels felt we were making too many rookie mistakes out there, and wanted to settle things down.

It's tough to know what would have happened these past two weeks with a healthy Orton. A functional offense wins that game last week, and likely makes this game more competitive.

Play2win
11-22-2009, 11:36 PM
I would have liked to see Percy Harvin, Robert Ayers and Ray Mauluga...

All I know is that it sure would have been fun to watch Mark Ingram run in the Denver Broncos' backfield.

Play2win
11-22-2009, 11:37 PM
I still think Alphonso Smith has something special and could possibly develop into a great player down the road.

ZONA
11-22-2009, 11:53 PM
I think Moreno needs to be sat down for a game. It's the only way this is gonna sink into his melon. There is no way Moreno can lose that ball on the 1 yard line and he does anyway. Sit him down.

Boltjolt
11-23-2009, 12:01 AM
Rey Maualuga hasnt done a whole lot. He has been outplayed by Cushing, Laurinaitus and even Clay Mathews who hasnt started everygame and has better stats asside from having a few less tackles but he has more sacks and more passes defended in less playing time.

SoCalBronco
11-23-2009, 12:23 AM
Rey Maualuga hasnt done a whole lot.

What a shock.

Not.

Boltjolt
11-23-2009, 12:27 AM
What a shock.

Not.

He hasnt. He has been very mediocre and certainly for how he was hyped, he hasnt had much of an impact and has indeed been outplayed by those i mentioned. You could of had any of those guys too.

SoCalBronco
11-23-2009, 12:29 AM
He hasnt. He has been very mediocre and certainly for how he was hyped, he hasnt had an impact at all and has indeed been outplayed by those i mentioned. You could of had any of those guys too.

Ofcourse he's mediocre. That was kind of my point. Anyone paying attention to his college career could see that he was a puffed up fraud. He's **** in space and had questionable productivity, despite the ESPN hits.

fontaine
11-23-2009, 03:32 AM
This isn't something new. Ayers looked lost, slow of the snap and showed no hustle weeks ago when we were winning.

Broncoman13
11-23-2009, 04:41 AM
Mauluga- 42 tackles, 1 sack and 2 FF.

Alphonso Smith- Has a 40 year old starting in front of him and has 9 tackles with 2 PD.

Mauluga makes a lot of plays on the field and is a heck of a player, especially against the run. If you don't think that would help us right now, well then I don't know what to tell you.

Broncoman13
11-23-2009, 04:43 AM
Rey Maualuga hasnt done a whole lot. He has been outplayed by Cushing, Laurinaitus and even Clay Mathews who hasnt started everygame and has better stats asside from having a few less tackles but he has more sacks and more passes defended in less playing time.

And none of those guys were available at #37. James Laurinaitis would have been a brilliant pick as well... hell, Ron Brace would have helped.

elsid13
11-23-2009, 06:18 AM
Who would you rather McD selected? Remember, his genius only allowed 44 names on his draft board. Options were limited.

It was 100 BPC, or less then 1/3 of what other board had on them.

elsid13
11-23-2009, 06:27 AM
I still think A Smith is going to be very good CB in the NFL. People need to remember that takes time for young CB to learn the pro game. Champ struggled a lot in his first couple of years in the league.

Like I have stated before I have no problem with player selected, but rather the method that was used to get him. Denver shouldn't have moved up to get him or Quinn (btw maybe people can now see why he was consider a late late pick). Those move showed the inexperience in the draft room that day.

Denver724
11-23-2009, 07:45 AM
I still think A Smith is going to be very good CB in the NFL. People need to remember that takes time for young CB to learn the pro game. Champ struggled a lot in his first couple of years in the league.

Like I have stated before I have no problem with player selected, but rather the method that was used to get him. Denver shouldn't have moved up to get him or Quinn (btw maybe people can now see why he was consider a late late pick). Those move showed the inexperience in the draft room that day.

Still not worth a top 15 pick in the deepest draft ever. Absolute joke. I am so pissed off about this. When we were 6-0 I was, of course, not that worried about it. Now that it looks like this will be a top 15 pick I am much more concerned. We need impact defensive players in a bad way. But hey, we took Ayers at #18 and he was inactive so a top 15 pick means nothing.

colonelbeef
11-23-2009, 08:10 AM
Was fine with Knowshon, but thought we should gave gone Orakpo. Hated the Ayers pick, wish we would have with Harvin... And yes, I said the same thing during the draft. Mauluga instead of Smith, William Moore instead of McBath (McBath growing on me and proving me wrong), and Shonn Greene instead of Quinn. Talk about somebody that could pound the Rock!

I actually believe that you would have put together a better draft than McDaniels/Xanders did.

Losing the Goodmans off of their last 3 drafts was a gigantic error in judgment

Denver724
11-23-2009, 08:28 AM
I actually believe that you would have put together a better draft than McDaniels/Xanders did.

Losing the Goodmans off of their last 3 drafts was a gigantic error in judgment

Agreed. Not impressed with draft at all SO FAR.

oubronco
11-23-2009, 11:15 AM
Rookie Class... Where they at?

on the bench either in street clothes or very clean uni's

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2009, 12:00 PM
Hindsight is 20/20. I love all the posters who do the shoulda/woulda/coulda crap after the fact.

Moreno looks to be a solid pick. Ayers is playing and is improving but he's gonna have his ups and downs, same with Smith. Quinn looks to be the only guy taken on first day who might be a bust.

I'm not sure why McD brought in Ty Law, but here's my theory: McD got punch drunk on the Broncos winning and instead of developing Smith, he brought in another vet in the secondary to improve the defense immediately this year.

Now the team is on a 4 game slide and McD is refusing to realize that MAY not be a playoff team. Until the Broncos are mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs, I have no problem with McD thinking this way. However, when the Broncos were winning, the team kinda had this "us against the world" mentality and they were executing the game plan.

Since the bye week, it seems as if McD shifted from a "us against the world" mentality to a "lets get to the playoffs" mentality and the team got bad at the basics: tacking, special teams, turnovers, penalties. FREAKING FOOTBALL 101.

I'm so pissed right now...