Tea Party Protesters Scuffle with Neo Nazis

[epicSocialism4tw]

The Neo Nazi loons showed up at a protest in Arizona and the Tea Party folks made it known quite quickly that they werent welcome.

http://www.breitbart.tv/neo-nazis-hitler-flag-triggers-scuffle-at-arizona-tea-party-protest/

[Dukes]

But the left says all republicans are card carrying KKK members who hate everyone but themselves. Right?

[SJ Bronco]

The Neo Nazi loons showed up at a protest in Arizona and the Tea Party folks made it known quite quickly that they werent welcome.

http://www.breitbart.tv/neo-nazis-hitler-flag-triggers-scuffle-at-arizona-tea-party-protest/

They should get to know each other better. They obviously have a lot in common...

[epicSocialism4tw]

They should get to know each other better. They obviously have a lot in common...

Sure. Do you really know this little about America?

[SJ Bronco]

Sure. Do you really know this little about America?

:rofl: you'd laugh about that statement if you knew anything about me or my education background. Sorry...I didn't mean to laugh AT you...carry on

[barryr]

Actually, the nazi's have more in common with the democrats since it's their party that was responsible for all of the racial problems down in the south for years and more members of the democratic party voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act than anybody else, including Al Gore's father, but notice how the liberal media never mentions this.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Actually, the nazi's have more in common with the democrats since it's their party that was responsible for all of the racial problems down in the south for years and more members of the democratic party voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act than anybody else, including Al Gore's father, but notice how the liberal media never mentions this.

Robert "KKK" Byrd is the patriarch of the Democratic party.

[Garcia Bronco]

The Democrats did pass Jim Crow.

[Garcia Bronco]

A Democrat signed the Federal Reserve Act into Law

[Arkie]

A Democrat signed the Federal Reserve Act into Law

and then he later stated, "I have unwilling ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by it’s system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in hands of a few men.
“ We have come to be one of the most ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world…no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government of conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."

[gyldenlove]

Actually, the nazi's have more in common with the democrats since it's their party that was responsible for all of the racial problems down in the south for years and more members of the democratic party voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act than anybody else, including Al Gore's father, but notice how the liberal media never mentions this.

As an aside to that abolitionism was started by Republicans and opposed by Democrats. You can find some pretty interesting reading on that in "Lies my history teacher told me".

[gyldenlove]

Nazis should just eat **** and die, very few people including Chargers fans make my blood boil like nazis, they are the scum of the earth in more ways than one - there is a reason there are so few nazis with PhDs it is the ideology of the feeble-minded.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Robert "KKK" Byrd is the patriarch of the Democratic party.

At least Byrd saw the error of his ways and repented - unlike Thurmond and so many of the other racists who built today's GOP.

The modern GOP established itself via its opposition to civil rights.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Nazis should just eat **** and die, very few people including Chargers fans make my blood boil like nazis, they are the scum of the earth in more ways than one - there is a reason there are so few nazis with PhDs it is the ideology of the feeble-minded.

Theyre basically a bunch of predestined prisoners who havent made the walk in handcuffs yet!

Youre talking about the same social strata that form gangs in every society around the world.

[TDmvp]

At least Byrd saw the error of his ways and repented - unlike Thurmond and so many of the other racists who built today's GOP.

The modern GOP established itself via its opposition to civil rights.


L.A. please actually read this ...

If you think Byrd likes black people you don't know the man or the state.
I mean do you really think he just unfelt all those feelings and hate just overnight or even over time? I doubt it ... Seems more like saying what others want to hear in a new PC era (compared to when he started) to save himself. Old white guys who feel that way from THAT state just don't wake up one day and go , you know what , I was wrong on black people.

Like he wouldn't say anything for votes and to save face to make sure he gets his name on another bridge or highway. Byrd is one of the biggest check marks for term limits ever. He has got himself elected over and over promising people hand outs and made himself rich in the process...

He is one of the biggest things wrong with that state and helps with the generational poverty of its people. They vote for him cause he's going to "give" them something for nothing but what they get is just enough to get by and continue to live the same crap life from one generation to the next over working harder then others to achieve a goal or dream to better themselves and their family.

My father came from there and goes ape $hit on this topic and that states problems often.

[spdirty]

LABF vs reality.

At least Byrd saw the error of his ways and repented - unlike Thurmond and so many of the other racists who built today's GOP.

The modern GOP established itself via its opposition to civil rights.

Just a few years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

L.A. please actually read this ...

If you think Byrd likes black people you don't know the man or the state.


Byrd renounced the KKK and admitted his racist views were wrong.

You certainly can't say the same for Thurmond and so many other rethugs who helped build today's GOP.

But let's not lose sight of the point here, i.e., that southern racism and opposition to civil rights built the modern GOP.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF vs reality.



Just a few years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0

ROFL!

That video does absolutely nothing to make your case.

[spdirty]

Once again, LABF vs. reality.

Byrd renounced the KKK and admitted his racist views were wrong.

You certainly can't say the same for Thurmond and so many other rethugs who helped build today's GOP.

But let's not lose sight of the point here, i.e., that southern racism and opposition to civil rights built the modern GOP.

http://www.mdcbowen.org/p2/hr7152/Freep.pdf

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Once again, LABF vs. reality.



http://www.mdcbowen.org/p2/hr7152/Freep.pdf

Ha ha ha! ROFL!

Thanks for the comic revisionist history.

The south went republican in reaction to the civil rights act.

Get your history straight. :wave:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Hoover and the Roots of GOP Racist Politics

Occasionally, some people will paint Herbert Hoover as a good-hearted humanitarian who ended up a bit over his head when the Great Depression came. The rise of the New Deal was built on Hoover's incompetence, not his malevolence.

Given Bush's incompetence, that might be an encouraging start, but what's worth understanding is that Hoover represents how the roots of modern GOP racism go deeper. Reading a wonderful biography of, W.E.B. Du Bois: The Fight for Equality and the American Century 1919-1963 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805025340/002-8399717-8097659?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance)by David Levering Lewis, it's clear that Hoover marked the point where the GOP abandoned its last vestiges of concern for civil rights in favor of appealing to the racist white South.

While the Republicans had ceased decades earlier to do much substantively for civil rights, blacks in the 1920s still retained elected positions within the Republican Party apparatus. The crisis point in relations of African Americans and the GOP came, evocatively, in the last great Mississippi flood disaster, the Great Flood of 1927 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927), when a million and a half people were displaced from their homes. Check the link for details, but the outrage was that the relief effort was headed by Herbert Hoover, yet he turned a blind eye as tens of thousands of blacks were rounded up at gunpoint for forced labor. Black leaders, even those previously allied to the Republicans, denounced this treatment, but the response came in 1928.

Pioneering the "Southern Strategy" of coming decades, Hoover forced all southern blacks to surrender their positions so that the GOP could become lily white in the South. This would help Hoover's GOP break into southern states, as the party won Tennessee, North Carolina, Florida and Texas-- notably the first time a Republican had ever won in Texas. The purge of blacks from the party and this shift by the national GOP towards appealing to racist whites in the South so outraged black leaders that with the election of 1928 began the wholesale shift of black voters in the North towards the Democrats. While the Dem nominee Al Smith was a grave disappointment for black voters, Hoover's racist actions were the soil on which Roosevelt would build his outreach to black voters for the New Deal.

The racism of the National Review three decades latert in deepening the GOP alliance with the previously solid Democratic white South just continued the explicit alliance with racists begun by the national Republicans by Hoover. Roosevelt and even more decisively Truman would solidify that shift with a rejection by the Democratic Party of its own racist commitments in favor of racial equality.

What's striking is the myth that the "southern strategy" of 1968 was something radically new for the Republican Party. In fact, the GOP has spent most of the 20th century abandoning its origins at the party of Lincoln to build itself on the rock of southern racism. As Ezra Klein notes (http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/10/index.html#007972), the myths of black looters and rape -- promoted fervently among rightwing blogs and media -- were nothing more than the latent racist tropes of yesteryear. And such a convenient trope for a Republican Party desperate to shift blame onto the victims of that disaster.

But the lesson of history is that to focus on the beginnings of Democratic losses electorally in the 1960s due to their (occasionally wayward) commitment to racial justice is misguided if you don't understand that there would have been no elections to lose if the party had not built the New Deal coalition based on the GOP's abandonment of its black supporters.

Historically, the GOP made a fatal mistake under Hoover in abandoning racial justice as a formal commitment just as the civil rights movement was rising. The Dems made a lot of mistakes in the 20th century, but rejecting their racist past to champion civil rights was one of their greatest moral AND politically astute moves.

It's a good lesson for Democratic moderates who want to bet on weakening such commitments as an electoral strategy. In a country where the percentage of white voters continue to decrease as a percentage of the population, betting against racial justice is a long-term electoral loser.

http://www.nathannewman.org/log/archives/003458.shtml

[spdirty]

Ha ha ha! ROFL!

Thanks for the comic revisionist history.

The south went republican in reaction to the civil rights act.

Get your history straight. :wave:

Its not the republicans fault that the south pulled their heads out of their asses. Higher percentage of GOP congressmen and senators voted for the civil rights act than democrats.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Its not the republicans fault that the south pulled their heads out of their asses. Higher percentage of GOP congressmen and senators voted for the civil rights act than democrats.

I guess the Southern Strategy was a little before your time? Ha!

[Fedaykin]

Actually, the nazi's have more in common with the democrats since it's their party that was responsible for all of the racial problems down in the south for years and more members of the democratic party voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act than anybody else, including Al Gore's father, but notice how the liberal media never mentions this.

You do realize that parties change over time, right?

The democrats you talk about spit from the modern democratic party and largely became republicans.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

That you cling so tightly to a label is not surprising to me.

Also, I call Godwin's Law on this whole thread for its stupidity.

[SJ Bronco]

You do realize that parties change over time, right?

The democrats you talk about spit from the modern democratic party and largely became republicans.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

That you cling so tightly to a label is not surprising to me.

Also, I call Godwin's Law on this whole thread for it's stupidity.

Dude, most of us know that, but most people never look beyond what they learned in HS US history

[epicSocialism4tw]

Hoover and the Roots of GOP Racist Politics

Occasionally, some people will paint Herbert Hoover as a good-hearted humanitarian who ended up a bit over his head when the Great Depression came. The rise of the New Deal was built on Hoover's incompetence, not his malevolence.

Given Bush's incompetence, that might be an encouraging start, but what's worth understanding is that Hoover represents how the roots of modern GOP racism go deeper. Reading a wonderful biography of, W.E.B. Du Bois: The Fight for Equality and the American Century 1919-1963 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805025340/002-8399717-8097659?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance)by David Levering Lewis, it's clear that Hoover marked the point where the GOP abandoned its last vestiges of concern for civil rights in favor of appealing to the racist white South.

While the Republicans had ceased decades earlier to do much substantively for civil rights, blacks in the 1920s still retained elected positions within the Republican Party apparatus. The crisis point in relations of African Americans and the GOP came, evocatively, in the last great Mississippi flood disaster, the Great Flood of 1927 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927), when a million and a half people were displaced from their homes. Check the link for details, but the outrage was that the relief effort was headed by Herbert Hoover, yet he turned a blind eye as tens of thousands of blacks were rounded up at gunpoint for forced labor. Black leaders, even those previously allied to the Republicans, denounced this treatment, but the response came in 1928.

Pioneering the "Southern Strategy" of coming decades, Hoover forced all southern blacks to surrender their positions so that the GOP could become lily white in the South. This would help Hoover's GOP break into southern states, as the party won Tennessee, North Carolina, Florida and Texas-- notably the first time a Republican had ever won in Texas. The purge of blacks from the party and this shift by the national GOP towards appealing to racist whites in the South so outraged black leaders that with the election of 1928 began the wholesale shift of black voters in the North towards the Democrats. While the Dem nominee Al Smith was a grave disappointment for black voters, Hoover's racist actions were the soil on which Roosevelt would build his outreach to black voters for the New Deal.

The racism of the National Review three decades latert in deepening the GOP alliance with the previously solid Democratic white South just continued the explicit alliance with racists begun by the national Republicans by Hoover. Roosevelt and even more decisively Truman would solidify that shift with a rejection by the Democratic Party of its own racist commitments in favor of racial equality.

What's striking is the myth that the "southern strategy" of 1968 was something radically new for the Republican Party. In fact, the GOP has spent most of the 20th century abandoning its origins at the party of Lincoln to build itself on the rock of southern racism. As Ezra Klein notes (http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/10/index.html#007972), the myths of black looters and rape -- promoted fervently among rightwing blogs and media -- were nothing more than the latent racist tropes of yesteryear. And such a convenient trope for a Republican Party desperate to shift blame onto the victims of that disaster.

But the lesson of history is that to focus on the beginnings of Democratic losses electorally in the 1960s due to their (occasionally wayward) commitment to racial justice is misguided if you don't understand that there would have been no elections to lose if the party had not built the New Deal coalition based on the GOP's abandonment of its black supporters.

Historically, the GOP made a fatal mistake under Hoover in abandoning racial justice as a formal commitment just as the civil rights movement was rising. The Dems made a lot of mistakes in the 20th century, but rejecting their racist past to champion civil rights was one of their greatest moral AND politically astute moves.

It's a good lesson for Democratic moderates who want to bet on weakening such commitments as an electoral strategy. In a country where the percentage of white voters continue to decrease as a percentage of the population, betting against racial justice is a long-term electoral loser.

http://www.nathannewman.org/log/archives/003458.shtml

Wow, LABF. Another sketchy link to some far-out-left propaganda blog? Really? You could at least use some sort of professional propagandist like MSNBC or something...at least then you have some credibility within the far-left wackos. I dont think that most far-left wacko's go this far though.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wow, LABF. Another sketchy link to some far-out-left propaganda blog? Really? You could at least use some sort of professional propagandist like MSNBC or something...at least then you have some credibility within the far-left wackos. I dont think that most far-left wacko's go this far though.

More "attack the messenger because I can't dispute the message" from the board's most notorious far-right Kool-Aid chugger.

Not one attempt to dispute, challenge, or deny anything of the substance of what was presented.

No matter how many times he's called on this sort of intellectual dishonesty, he "stays the course." :oyvey: :mullet1:

[Pseudofool]

I'm glad the teapartiers are showing some ethical standards as deranged as I might feel they are. As for the notion that racism has been hoisted up by liberals--that's ridiculous. Don't confuse history of local Southern Democrats with the that of the National party.

[epicSocialism4tw]

More "attack the messenger because I can't dispute the message" from the board's most notorious far-right Kool-Aid chugger.

Not one attempt to dispute, challenge, or deny anything of the substance of what was presented.

No matter how many times he's called on this sort of intellectual dishonesty, he "stays the course." :oyvey: :mullet1:

Dude, you can keep using legal buzz phrases like "attack the messenger" and political buzz phrases like "far right kool-aid chugger", but it still doesnt change the fact that you post sketchy link after sketchy link on top of sketchy cartoon after sketchy cartoon.

Your propaganda sucks and I cant imagine that anyone takes it seriously.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Dude, you can keep using legal buzz phrases like "attack the messenger" and political buzz phrases like "far right kool-aid chugger", but it still doesnt change the fact that you post sketchy link after sketchy link on top of sketchy cartoon after sketchy cartoon.

Your propaganda sucks and I cant imagine that anyone takes it seriously.

Translation:

"I still can't dispute or challenge any of the factual assertions in the article, so, as always, my only recourse is to continue slinging the same idiotic ad hominem attacks and to file all inconvenient truths or realities under "propaganda" like a funny little far-right ostrich/fundamentalist loon."