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Bronco Rob
11-19-2009, 02:59 AM
Woody's Mailbag: Broncos broken down


Jack in Denver asks Woody if Chris Simms is the answer for the Broncos
By Woody Paige
The Denver Post

Posted: 11/19/2009 01:00:00 AM MST


Do you still think Chris Simms is the answer for the Broncos after what you saw in Washington? I don't think a week of work with the "ones" is going to make a difference in that situation. He is who he is ... and for the Broncos this year, in my opinion, he's the second best choice.-- Jack, Denver


Jack: My best friend texted me at halftime and said "You got your wish." It was not my wish for Kyle Orton to be injured; it was not my wish for the Broncos to lose; and it certainly wasn't my wish that Chris Simms be brought into his first game in the second half without preparation and repetitions with the first team during the week preceding the game. I had recommended that he start. We'll never know if that would have made a difference. If Orton had remained healthy, the Broncos might have won the game. Who knows? Simms did look awful ... putrid, and hundreds of e-mailers have written to gloat that I was wrong. They can continue to do so. I will not apologize to them.

I give my opinion, which is based on sound information, thoughtful research and observation, unlike some kid in Arizona who is a Broncos fan and writes a blog, without proper grammar or punctuation or understanding, from his mom's laundry room and think he knows what he's talking about, and people actually pay attention. They did not write to gloat when Orton had successive bad games. The problem is more severe. The defense is not stopping people, including a Washington team that couldn't score more than 17 points in any previous game this season. Combine that with a team now throwing interceptions, fumbling, special teams that are not and mistakes by the coaching staff.

When a team shows that it is going to use a trick play, off a field goal look, and has to call a timeout because it's one man short on the field, and then shows the same play, and the Broncos are not smart enough to be in position to defend a punter throwing a pass, then coaches and players made mistakes. The Broncos are banged up on the offensive line. Ben Hamilton is a shell of what he once was, and has been replaced. McDaniels did mess with what were excellent blocking schemes. The defensive line, which was a problem way before the season, is struggling mightily. Other than Knowshon Moreno, which of the draft choices really are contributing?



Don't talk to me about Alphonso Smith. I've gotten that garbage all year about not giving him love. What? As a return man? What? As a nickel back? Why is Ty Law here then? What about the backup safeties? People tell me Robert Ayers is sensational. He has made one play. The other team scored 7, 6, 3, 10 and 17 points in the first five games. Now the Broncos' offense, defense and special teams have combined to give up 23, 30, 28 and 27. From 43 in five to 108 in four. If the Broncos lose to San Diego, which hasn't lost since the last Broncos game and is improving did you see L.T. against Philly? they'll be in second place and in danger of not even making the playoffs.

Only two teams in history started 6-0 and didn't get to the postseason. The Broncos still could lose this week and will lose at Indianapolis and Philadelphia, could lose at Kansas City (in cold in December in that city, they always have played poorly, no matter the coach or quarterback) and won't have a bargain when the Giants come to town. There are two gimmes Kansas City and Oakland here. A 3-4 record won't get it. A 4-3 mark may not be good enough. The Broncos have to come up with five victories to have a chance at the division or as a wild card. You know that Indy, New England, Cincinnati (Bengals?) and Pittsburgh are in. You've still got the Chargers and the Ravens (after Monday night) in the mix. Six teams are invited.



The Broncos are not as bad as I thought they would be (4-12, and excuse me for being the court jester), but they're not as good as some people would have you believe, with or without Orton. I thought they needed a lift. I thought Simms might provide it. In that situation, he was a train wreck. But the rest of the Broncos didn't help matters, and this schedule is rough. What helps is that the Broncos still are in a very weak division. Yet, if they do make the playoffs, they will have to go to Indianapolis or New England or Pittsburgh or, heaven forbid, back to Cincinnati (where you know what happened) and win. They have to play smarter and tougher. Are they tough enough?


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_13817872



LOL

fontaine
11-19-2009, 04:23 AM
Paige is a douche but he got a couple of things right.

That was an awful performance by the Broncos, apart from Moreno none of the other picks are actually making that much of a difference.

He was spot on saying that McDaniels really messed with the Broncos run blocking schemes.

DelBronco
11-19-2009, 05:28 AM
Ah, the old "blogger loser that lives in his mom's basement" rebuttal.

The fact is he called for something that would 'fix' the offense. He got it, and it blew up in his face. Period. Humiliation is a stinky cologne, Woody Paige.

barryr
11-19-2009, 05:32 AM
Paige is a waste of space and time. When he is proven wrong, then he goes on to attack other players on the team and the coach, not to mention the fans. He's a sore LOSER!

oubronco
11-19-2009, 06:03 AM
what exactly did you want him to say

jhns
11-19-2009, 06:26 AM
I think Woody is entertaining, which is what he is paid for. He goes to extremes and I think he can be funny when doing that.

As for his calling for Simms, I'm not sure what makes him think Simms is any good. I don't really like Orton as the QB but it is pretty easy to see he is the best option we have right now. Maybe Branstater is good but I really have no way of knowing that and I doubt the rookie does any better than Orton.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-19-2009, 06:36 AM
what exactly did you want him to say

That he got it wrong. That Simms is not what he thought it was.

And maybe to not give the "I'm a big, bad journalist who looks down on bloggers because they're all in their mom's laundry rooms and don't know what they're talking about" response to being completely and totally owned. I loved the mention of how that blogger "thinks anyone is paying attention." Considering you just mentioned him in your column, Woody, it's quite obvious that YOU are paying attention.

You were wrong, Wood. Admit it and move on without attacking anyone.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-19-2009, 08:34 AM
I'd like to know what Woody's "sound information" and "thoughtful research" on the subject involved other that shoving his head up his ass.

That said, he brings up some good points, but really is making excuses for Simms. In my opinion, the reason we lost the game against Washington started with Chris Simms. Yes, the defense didn't help, but had the offense stayed on the field more than a minute at a time, it probably wouldnt have had to. Simms was putrid, scared, indecisive, and just plain awful. Offensive timing starts with your quarterback. I cant see him suddenly becoming tom brady in a week. He better improve somewhat though.

Tombstone RJ
11-19-2009, 08:45 AM
In Simms defense, the guy has not played in an NFL game (aside from preseason) in like 3 or 4 years. Granted, he stunk the joint up, but the team didn't do him any real big favors either. McD's running game is mediocre at best and the defense is falling apart. That freaking fake field goal for a TD is inexcusable.

HAT
11-19-2009, 08:57 AM
""""I give my opinion, which is based on sound information, thoughtful research and observation, unlike some kid in Arizona who is a Broncos fan and writes a blog, without proper grammar or punctuation or understanding, from his mom's laundry room and think he knows what he's talking about, and people actually pay attention.""""

LOL at busting on someones punctuation in one of the most poorly constructed sentences I've ever read.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-19-2009, 09:05 AM
In Simms defense, the guy has not played in an NFL game (aside from preseason) in like 3 or 4 years. Granted, he stunk the joint up, but the team didn't do him any real big favors either. McD's running game is mediocre at best and the defense is falling apart. That freaking fake field goal for a TD is inexcusable.

Well, while i agree with some of what you say, the inexcusable special teams TD came before Simms was in the game and the running game was actually working pretty well.

He sucked. Its his job not to suck. He gets paid not to suck.

Popps
11-19-2009, 09:27 AM
Wow, Woody... all of that was easier than just saying you screwed up?

loborugger
11-19-2009, 10:07 AM
Ah, the old "blogger loser that lives in his mom's basement" rebuttal.

The fact is he called for something that would 'fix' the offense. He got it, and it blew up in his face. Period. Humiliation is a stinky cologne, Woody Paige.

Besides, Bob lives in TX and is a KC fan....

BroncoBuff
11-19-2009, 10:46 AM
The defense is not stopping people, including a Washington team that couldn't score more than 17 points in any previous game this season.

Ugh ...

lazarus4444
11-19-2009, 11:08 AM
While i am not a simms supporter i do expect him to play better this week. Of course, when you've hit rock bottom all you can do is go up from there, right? right?

Blart
11-19-2009, 11:16 AM
What a moron. Just admit you were wrong, rambling for 6 paragraphs doesn't make you look any better.

gyldenlove
11-19-2009, 11:17 AM
In Simms defense, the guy has not played in an NFL game (aside from preseason) in like 3 or 4 years. Granted, he stunk the joint up, but the team didn't do him any real big favors either. McD's running game is mediocre at best and the defense is falling apart. That freaking fake field goal for a TD is inexcusable.

So it is a defense now to suck?

The reason he hasn't played is that he sucks, if he was any good some of the teams who badly need QBs including his 2 former teams would probably have had more interest in keeping him or playing him.

broncocalijohn
11-19-2009, 11:24 AM
Ah, the old "blogger loser that lives in his mom's basement" rebuttal.

The fact is he called for something that would 'fix' the offense. He got it, and it blew up in his face. Period. Humiliation is a stinky cologne, Woody Paige.

if simms starts and blows chunks this week, he will have no excuse as he had a full week of preparations with the first team. If he blows it, unfortunately, the next game is 4 days away and too dificult to bring in another QB to start if Orton cant go. Garcia would be a step up than Simms anyday of the week (and that i guess would be a Wednesday for a Thursday game). So I guess I am now saying you have until next wednesday to bring in another QB to replace Simms if he sucks again.

NYBronco
11-19-2009, 01:21 PM
In Simms defense, the guy has not played in an NFL game (aside from preseason) in like 3 or 4 years. Granted, he stunk the joint up, but the team didn't do him any real big favors either. McD's running game is mediocre at best and the defense is falling apart. That freaking fake field goal for a TD is inexcusable.

Then perhaps Simms shouldn't be the backup QB and the rookie elevated from the #3 spot until Simms gets back into the feel of being an NFL QB. At least Brandstater has played football consistently the past 3 or 4 years.

BroncoMan4ever
11-19-2009, 01:28 PM
In Simms defense, the guy has not played in an NFL game (aside from preseason) in like 3 or 4 years. Granted, he stunk the joint up, but the team didn't do him any real big favors either. McD's running game is mediocre at best and the defense is falling apart. That freaking fake field goal for a TD is inexcusable.

he wasn't exactly a great QB last time he started. he has always been mediocre, and should not be counted on for more than just being an emergency option as a backup.

supermanhr9
11-19-2009, 01:48 PM
as much as I dislike Woody, he defends himself pretty well

bronco militia
11-19-2009, 01:49 PM
http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/newbad-to-worse.gif

Ambiguous
11-19-2009, 02:42 PM
Paige is a total hack. He could admit he was wrong, as almost everyone here did, but he then deflects to other issues.

Irish Stout
11-19-2009, 02:43 PM
I think its very strange that Woody takes the time to make attacks on Broncostalk.net, which is a blog operated by young guys who are not paid or edited in what they post, but often have more thought out and carefully researched opinions on the Broncos than Mr. Paige's diatribe on how Orton is worse than Simms, but McD is too tied to him to change. *Hufff hufff* Run on sentences tire me out. Thank goodness Woody Paige doesn't know what state I live in.

Bronco Rob
11-19-2009, 03:31 PM
Paige is a douche.


Humiliation is a stinky cologne, Woody Paige.


Paige is a waste of space and time.


You were wrong, Wood. Admit it and move on without attacking anyone.


I'd like to know what Woody's "sound information" and "thoughtful research" on the subject involved other that shoving his head up his ass.


Wow, Woody... all of that was easier than just saying you screwed up?


What a moron. Just admit you were wrong, rambling for 6 paragraphs doesn't make you look any better.


Paige is a total hack. He could admit he was wrong, as almost everyone here did, but he then deflects to other issues.


:thumbsup:

oubronco
11-19-2009, 03:46 PM
That he got it wrong. That Simms is not what he thought it was.

And maybe to not give the "I'm a big, bad journalist who looks down on bloggers because they're all in their mom's laundry rooms and don't know what they're talking about" response to being completely and totally owned. I loved the mention of how that blogger "thinks anyone is paying attention." Considering you just mentioned him in your column, Woody, it's quite obvious that YOU are paying attention.

You were wrong, Wood. Admit it and move on without attacking anyone.

would you if you were in his shoes?

SportinOne
11-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Why would he say he was wrong? He wasn't calling for Simms to be thrown into the fire unexpectedly.

Simms was bad, but he wasn't getting any time to work. Washington smelled blood in the water and sent the pressure. It worked.

Popps
11-19-2009, 04:05 PM
Why would he say he was wrong?

Because Simms was a disaster.

He had PLENTY of time to throw on SEVERAL occasions and looked like he had no idea what he was doing.

You need to watch the tape again. He had 13 passes... and I'll say that on at least half of them, he had PLENTY of time for an NFL QB.

****, he had all day on that INT and threw it 10 yards from where Marshall ran his route.

Woody wrote an article to stir up some readers' ire, and it did... and it was a silly article. He doesn't necessarily have to apologize, but he should at least be man enough to admit it was a silly thing to write.

kmonty
11-19-2009, 04:06 PM
Love how the OM has BT's back. Thanks all.

Popps
11-19-2009, 04:11 PM
http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/newbad-to-worse.gif

Orton "Bad?"

C'mon... I know he's got to sell the joke, but that's just not fair.

outdoor_miner
11-19-2009, 04:17 PM
http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/newbad-to-worse.gif

I just don't understand how anyone can think that Kyle Orton is "bad". My God, he is ranked between 10-15 in just about every statistical category, and that is after playing the first part of the season with a serious injury to his throwing hand.

He is having as good or better of a season statistically than names like Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Joe Flacco, and Carson Palmer. How exactly is that "bad"???

PS - I love a guy like Woody Paige calling bloggers out. He's a slob, he spouts reactionary opinions (nice try claiming your opinion was based on "research", Woody), and he makes a living generating controversy. Sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black.

oubronco
11-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Orton "Bad?"

C'mon... I know he's got to sell the joke, but that's just not fair.

why popps it's not like he's really that good

Hogan11
11-19-2009, 04:33 PM
I just don't understand how anyone can think that Kyle Orton is "bad". My God, he is ranked between 10-15 in just about every statistical category, and that is after playing the first part of the season with a serious injury to his throwing hand.

He is having as good or better of a season statistically than names like Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Joe Flacco, and Carson Palmer. How exactly is that "bad"???

He's not marketable. The press/marginal fans need stars, period.

It's not enough to just be a servicable QB anymore, hasn't been in years.

Chris
11-19-2009, 04:38 PM
Cocky.

outdoor_miner
11-19-2009, 04:48 PM
why popps it's not like he's really that good

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

QB Rating: Orton = 12th in NFL (ahead of Flacco, Eli, Palmer, Ryan, and Cutler)
Yards: Orton = 15th in NFL (ahead of Palmer and Ryan)
Completion Percentage: Orton = 11th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Rivers, Palmer, Romo, McNabb, Eli, and Ryan)
Touchdowns: Orton = 17th in NFL (behind most of the good QBs)
TD/Int Ratio: Orton = 5th in NFL (ahead of all QBs except Favre, Rodgers, Brady, McNabb, and Peyton)
Yards per Attempt: Orton = 16th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Palmer, and Ryan)

I know statistics aren't everthing, but he's having a good year by pretty much every meaningful statistical category, no matter how you slice it. He is performing as well or better than many of the most "promising" young quarterbacks in the league. He has not been bad in any way, shape, or form.

oubronco
11-19-2009, 04:54 PM
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

QB Rating: Orton = 12th in NFL (ahead of Flacco, Eli, Palmer, Ryan, and Cutler)
Yards: Orton = 15th in NFL (ahead of Palmer and Ryan)
Completion Percentage: Orton = 11th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Rivers, Palmer, Romo, McNabb, Eli, and Ryan)
Touchdowns: Orton = 17th in NFL (behind most of the good QBs)
TD/Int Ratio: Orton = 5th in NFL (ahead of all QBs except Favre, Rodgers, Brady, McNabb, and Peyton)
Yards per Attempt: Orton = 16th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Palmer, and Ryan)

I know statistics aren't everthing, but he's having a good year by pretty much every meaningful statistical category, no matter how you slice it. He is performing as well or better than many of the most "promising" young quarterbacks in the league. He has not been bad in any way, shape, or form.

save from one half of a game he hasn't thrown the ball worth a shyt past 10 yds

SonOfLe-loLang
11-19-2009, 04:59 PM
save from one half of a game he hasn't thrown the ball worth a shyt past 10 yds

Good analysis

2KBack
11-19-2009, 05:05 PM
save from one half of a game he hasn't thrown the ball worth a shyt past 10 yds

That's pretty much bull****, but Haters gotta Hate I guess

oubronco
11-19-2009, 05:08 PM
That's pretty much bull****, but Haters gotta Hate I guess

Opinions are like assholes too everyone has one and they all stink :thumbsup:

Atwater His Ass
11-19-2009, 06:00 PM
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

QB Rating: Orton = 12th in NFL (ahead of Flacco, Eli, Palmer, Ryan, and Cutler)
Yards: Orton = 15th in NFL (ahead of Palmer and Ryan)
Completion Percentage: Orton = 11th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Rivers, Palmer, Romo, McNabb, Eli, and Ryan)
Touchdowns: Orton = 17th in NFL (behind most of the good QBs)
TD/Int Ratio: Orton = 5th in NFL (ahead of all QBs except Favre, Rodgers, Brady, McNabb, and Peyton)
Yards per Attempt: Orton = 16th in NFL (ahead of Cutler, Palmer, and Ryan)

I know statistics aren't everthing, but he's having a good year by pretty much every meaningful statistical category, no matter how you slice it. He is performing as well or better than many of the most "promising" young quarterbacks in the league. He has not been bad in any way, shape, or form.

wow the statistics show Orton to be mediocre. who knew?

Rigs11
11-19-2009, 06:29 PM
wow the statistics show Orton to be mediocre. who knew?

still an upgrade over cutler. I know i know he has a rocket arm.

bronco militia
11-19-2009, 07:43 PM
I just don't understand how anyone can think that Kyle Orton is "bad". My God, he is ranked between 10-15 in just about every statistical category, and that is after playing the first part of the season with a serious injury to his throwing hand.

He is having as good or better of a season statistically than names like Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Joe Flacco, and Carson Palmer. How exactly is that "bad"???

PS - I love a guy like Woody Paige calling bloggers out. He's a slob, he spouts reactionary opinions (nice try claiming your opinion was based on "research", Woody), and he makes a living generating controversy. Sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black.

if you're satified with Orton than so be it. IMO the Broncos and most of the fans are not satisfied with the play of their QB's.

peacepipe
11-19-2009, 07:58 PM
He is having as good or better of a season statistically than names like Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Joe Flacco, and Carson Palmer. How exactly is that "bad"???
He may be having a better season stat wise but by no means is a better QB than anyone you've named.

watermock
11-19-2009, 08:26 PM
This point hurts tho.

Don't talk to me about Alphonso Smith. I've gotten that garbage all year about not giving him love. What? As a return man? What? As a nickel back? Why is Ty Law here then? What about the backup safeties? People tell me Robert Ayers is sensational. He has made one play. The other team scored 7, 6, 3, 10 and 17 points in the first five games. Now the Broncos' offense, defense and special teams have combined to give up 23, 30, 28 and 27. From 43 in five to 108 in four. If the Broncos lose to San Diego, which hasn't lost since the last Broncos game and is improving did you see L.T. against Philly? they'll be in second place and in danger of not even making the playoffs.

watermock
11-19-2009, 08:30 PM
I think its very strange that Woody takes the time to make attacks on Broncostalk.net, which is a blog operated by young guys who are not paid or edited in what they post, but often have more thought out and carefully researched opinions on the Broncos than Mr. Paige's diatribe on how Orton is worse than Simms, but McD is too tied to him to change. *Hufff hufff* Run on sentences tire me out. Thank goodness Woody Paige doesn't know what state I live in.


THAT was uncalled for when he's making 6 figures.

Talk about reaching down to kick a puppy. sheesh!

watermock
11-19-2009, 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by oubronco
save from one half of a game he hasn't thrown the ball worth a shyt past 10 yds

Orton's been better than I thought...but...as far as YPC, he's had 4 pretty flucky plays.

Stokely's tip, BM's jump ball the eluding 4 tacklers, anyway, Denver has HAD quite a few big plays, even like Royals returns that won the SD game.

We've lost our mojo!

http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/exhibitionist/austin-powers-cocktail-glass-4900072.jpg

outdoor_miner
11-19-2009, 09:52 PM
wow the statistics show Orton to be mediocre. who knew?

There are 32 teams in the league. He has been better than average. I call that good. It certainly isn't "bad".

outdoor_miner
11-19-2009, 10:00 PM
if you're satified with Orton than so be it. IMO the Broncos and most of the fans are not satisfied with the play of their QB's.

I don't know if Orton is good enough to lead us to a Super Bowl, which is ultimately what matters. If he's not, then I would like to see a new quarterback.

However, given the situation this year, he's played very well. We are 6-3, and he is playing on par with other very good quarterbacks in this league. With that being said - my whole point is that he has not been "bad", and certainly not bad enough to warrant calls for the backup quarterback. Unless you think the other quarterbacks that he is playing at a similar level to are bad.

Bronco Yoda
11-20-2009, 12:01 AM
Woody is just casting his line and stirring the Pot. Nothing New.

watermock
11-20-2009, 12:06 AM
I'm sure BF got more hits.

BroncoMan4ever
11-20-2009, 01:08 AM
He is having as good or better of a season statistically than names like Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Joe Flacco, and Carson Palmer. How exactly is that "bad"???


He may be having a better season stat wise but by no means is a better QB than anyone you've named.

how do you figure he isn't better than guys on that list?

he is better than Cutler, simply because he has a brain. he is on par with Palmer because of how fragile Palmer is, he is better than Hasselback who has been on the downside for a couple seasons now. Manning is nothing special.

I will give you Ryan and Flacco and the only reason i say they are better is that they are younger and have more potential upside to their games.

Orton is a lot better than most want to give him credit for, and he would be an upgrade at the QB position for more than half the teams in the league.

Popps
11-20-2009, 02:04 AM
why popps it's not like he's really that good

I'd say that a QB with a 6-3 record, a great TD to INT ratio and a 90+ QB rating who didn't throw a meaningful INT until week 8 has to AT LEAST be considered average.

I realize you're a Cutler Widow, but aside from that horrific lapse in judgment, you must have some common sense floating around up there.

Orton has been anything but "bad" this year. Great? That's debatable. Good? Almost definitely. Average? Also debatable.

Bad? Absolutely not.

Again, it's a cartoon joke... but it's still off-base.

Rausch 2.0
11-20-2009, 02:16 AM
I'd say that a QB with a 6-3 record, a great TD to INT ratio and a 90+ QB rating who didn't throw a meaningful INT until week 8 has to AT LEAST be considered average.

I realize you're a Cutler Widow, but aside from that horrific lapse in judgment, you must have some common sense floating around up there.

Orton has been anything but "bad" this year. Great? That's debatable. Good? Almost definitely. Average? Also debatable.

Bad? Absolutely not.

Again, it's a cartoon joke... but it's still off-base.

Hilarious!

You've become the 95-97 Chiefs fabase!...ROFL!

Bronco Rob
11-20-2009, 03:20 AM
Hilarious!

You've become the 95-97 Chiefs fabase!...ROFL!


Yikes....

oubronco
11-20-2009, 06:12 AM
I'd say that a QB with a 6-3 record, a great TD to INT ratio and a 90+ QB rating who didn't throw a meaningful INT until week 8 has to AT LEAST be considered average.

I realize you're a Cutler Widow, but aside from that horrific lapse in judgment, you must have some common sense floating around up there.

Orton has been anything but "bad" this year. Great? That's debatable. Good? Almost definitely. Average? Also debatable.

Bad? Absolutely not.

Again, it's a cartoon joke... but it's still off-base.

I would say he's average but damn sure not great and as for Cutler .......................MOVE ON Let it GO !!!!

Atwater His Ass
11-20-2009, 06:23 AM
There are 32 teams in the league. He has been better than average. I call that good. It certainly isn't "bad".

cool story bro.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-20-2009, 07:57 AM
yesterday, I sent Woody's column to Deadspin for mocking, specifically pointing out the age-old "you are just a blogger living in your mother's basement/laundry room/etc." Thankfully, they've mocked him.

http://deadspin.com/5408682/the-basement-tapes-a-compendium-of-sportswriters-hacky-jokes-about-bloggers

outdoor_miner
11-20-2009, 08:43 AM
cool story bro.

Hey man - I give my opinion, which is based on sound information, thoughtful research and observation, unlike some kid in Arizona who is a Broncos fan and writes a blog, without proper grammar or punctuation or understanding, from his mom's laundry room and think he knows what he's talking about, and people actually pay attention.

Ambiguous
11-20-2009, 08:46 AM
Hey man - I give my opinion, which is based on sound information, thoughtful research and observation, unlike some kid in Arizona who is a Broncos fan and writes a blog, without proper grammar or punctuation or understanding, from his mom's laundry room and think he knows what he's talking about, and people actually pay attention.

Well played sir.

Bronco Rob
11-20-2009, 03:47 PM
yesterday, I sent Woody's column to Deadspin for mocking, specifically pointing out the age-old "you are just a blogger living in your mother's basement/laundry room/etc." Thankfully, they've mocked him.

http://deadspin.com/5408682/the-basement-tapes-a-compendium-of-sportswriters-hacky-jokes-about-bloggers



:thumbsup:

~Crash~
11-20-2009, 09:40 PM
That he got it wrong. That Simms is not what he thought it was.

And maybe to not give the "I'm a big, bad journalist who looks down on bloggers because they're all in their mom's laundry rooms and don't know what they're talking about" response to being completely and totally owned. I loved the mention of how that blogger "thinks anyone is paying attention." Considering you just mentioned him in your column, Woody, it's quite obvious that YOU are paying attention.

You were wrong, Wood. Admit it and move on without attacking anyone.

After a one half of play in 3 years you want him to light it up ?

Bronco Yoda
11-20-2009, 09:50 PM
light it up...no

Not **** himself...yes

theAPAOps5
11-20-2009, 10:07 PM
I would love to see the look on Woody the drunks face when The MileHighReport shows up in the press box this week!

SJ Bronco
11-20-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm curious as to what the difference is between Woody, and "mothers basement blogger" besides pay rate and readership?

To quote what someone said in another thread "the lengths people will go to to avoid simply saying "I was wrong" "

Bronco Yoda
11-20-2009, 10:34 PM
I would love to see the look on Woody the drunks face when The MileHighReport shows up in the press box this week!

Are they really. If so, good for them. They should show up wearing Orange underwear over their pants.:~ohyah!: