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Rulon Velvet Jones
11-06-2009, 01:13 PM
Credit ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter

During a season in which Jeremiah Trotter, Junior Seau and Ahman Green each have unexpectedly returned to football, cornerback Ty Law now will do the same.
Law and the Broncos have reached agreement on a contract that will add another former Patriot to Josh McDaniels' stable of them in Denver.
Contacted Friday, Law confirmed the developments.
He now is scheduled to fly to Denver today to take a physical. Assuming he passes, Law will join the Broncos at a similar time to when he joined the Jets last season.
When the Jets signed him early in a week last year, Law suited up days later and particiapted in over 50 plays covering Randy Moss.
He had wanted to return to football again and he now will have the chance. Law, Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey will give Denver arguably the most decorated defensive secondary in the league.

baja
11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
who gets cut?

tsiguy96
11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
maybe smith or JMFW are more injured than we thought, or he is competition for the true #2 CB?

dbfan21
11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
what the...?!

dbfan21
11-06-2009, 01:16 PM
What can Ty Law bring to our football team...gray hairs? This move is really questionable.

Beantown Bronco
11-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Smith going to IR?

bfoflcommish
11-06-2009, 01:18 PM
http://www.kukoda.com/wp-content/lombardi_trophy3.jpg

s0phr0syne
11-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Nothing against Law, he was a solid player, but he looks wayyyyyy past prime. I just remember Eddie bustin' that long TD last year against the Jets and Law being helpless to stop him.

Beantown Bronco
11-06-2009, 01:21 PM
Nothing against Law, he was a solid player, but he looks wayyyyyy past prime. I just remember Eddie bustin' that long TD last year against the Jets and Law being helpless to stop him.

And Stokley blowing past him the year before.

Jason in LA
11-06-2009, 01:22 PM
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh298/serg220/Sports/nba-trophy_full.jpg

Oh wait, wrong sport. But put him on the Lakers and they'd win the title. ;D

atomicbloke
11-06-2009, 01:29 PM
Damn... hope its not Smith.... our trade would be an epic fail then...

Br0nc0Buster
11-06-2009, 01:35 PM
Damn... hope its not Smith.... our trade would be an epic fail then...

There are not cutting Alphonso Smith, Jesus Christ

Law sucks though, I dont see the point in bringing him in

broncocalijohn
11-06-2009, 01:36 PM
Another PAt? Wonder if :blueflame has seen this?

BossChief
11-06-2009, 01:36 PM
LOL

this is a joke right?

Is he gonna play safety?

PRBronco
11-06-2009, 01:36 PM
Maybe brought in as a cover safety on obvious passing downs? Or a tight end covering specialist? (I saw Barrett's name in the injury report)

Peoples Champ
11-06-2009, 01:37 PM
We might be getting him just for the Colts game. He is a Manning killer. Has 2 , 3 pick games against Peyton.

BossChief
11-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Damn... hope its not Smith.... our trade would be an epic fail then...

this has to be a joke too right?

Rabb
11-06-2009, 01:37 PM
oh Jesus, calm down

if he brings more leadership who cares

could be a good thing, none of us know

Pony Boy
11-06-2009, 01:39 PM
Smith going to IR?

Got to be Smith or Jack Williams

Rohirrim
11-06-2009, 01:41 PM
Like they said, if he passes the physical. I'm all for it. So far, the brain trust on this team has made the right decisions straight down the line. I'm on board for the whole ride. ;D

s0phr0syne
11-06-2009, 01:41 PM
We might be getting him just for the Colts game. He is a Manning killer. Has 2 , 3 pick games against Peyton.



True, good point.

Also, and this is probably stretching it a bit far, but is it a move to prevent the Colts from picking him up? They've lost like 3 starters this week...? 2 for the year I think.

tsiguy96
11-06-2009, 01:41 PM
this has to be a joke too right?

some bronco fans never cease to amaze.

but then again, you guys have boob.

RMT
11-06-2009, 01:42 PM
they should cut berger - law could probably punt better than the crap berger booted in baltimore last weekend.

bowtown
11-06-2009, 01:42 PM
oh Jesus, calm down

if he brings more leadership who cares

could be a good thing, none of us know

Exactly. This is a Pats kind of move... bring in the smart super old vet to act as a coach/mentor on the field and sidelines.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-06-2009, 01:43 PM
Who cares? This won't really change much. more veteran leadership cant hurt

Garcia Bronco
11-06-2009, 01:43 PM
Best corner ever...now

scorpio
11-06-2009, 01:44 PM
I can't believe nobody has updated wikipedia yet

Hogan11
11-06-2009, 01:47 PM
Wasted roster spot, Law has long been washed up.

jebures
11-06-2009, 01:48 PM
Credit ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter

During a season in which Jeremiah Trotter, Junior Seau and Ahman Green each have unexpectedly returned to football, cornerback Ty Law now will do the same.
Law and the Broncos have reached agreement on a contract that will add another former Patriot to Josh McDaniels' stable of them in Denver.
Contacted Friday, Law confirmed the developments.
He now is scheduled to fly to Denver today to take a physical. Assuming he passes, Law will join the Broncos at a similar time to when he joined the Jets last season.
When the Jets signed him early in a week last year, Law suited up days later and particiapted in over 50 plays covering Randy Moss.
He had wanted to return to football again and he now will have the chance. Law, Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey will give Denver arguably the most decorated defensive secondary in the league.

i like it, whatever helps the team

Smiling Assassin27
11-06-2009, 01:51 PM
i'll admit i don't get this move at all. still, kid McD gets the benefit of the doubt at this point. welcome aboard, Ty.

Blueflame
11-06-2009, 01:54 PM
Another PAt? Wonder if :blueflame has seen this?

If that's a request for my take on it... well, I think I'll just keep that to myself. :P

Black96WS6
11-06-2009, 01:59 PM
According to the article Ty Law "...will immediately replace the current Gatorade boy and will also take over the handing out of towels and putting the football in the momentos box on the sidelines..."

Hehe. Ok seriously though. This is a head scratcher for me. Why would you want Law taking up a valuable roster spot? Does he really have anything left in the tank?

Ray Finkle
11-06-2009, 01:59 PM
I don't get this....unless Smith or MF'er are really hurt.

55CrushEm
11-06-2009, 02:10 PM
Damn... hope its not Smith.... our trade would be an epic fail then...

Are you serious? This, couple with your gun control comments.....well, know I know you're a retard.

You honestly think we'd be cutting Smith.......?

55CrushEm
11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
I can't believe nobody has updated wikipedia yet

They have.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Law

Archer81
11-06-2009, 02:19 PM
As a depth signing, it couldnt hurt. Welcome to Denver, Ty Law. Dont **** up.


:Broncos:

Gort
11-06-2009, 02:28 PM
all i wanna know is...

can he break off 2K in our system?























:approve:

JCMElway
11-06-2009, 02:29 PM
LOL

this is a joke right?

Is he gonna play safety?

He might actually play safety. He'd be a nice ball hawker next to Dawk. Is Hill hurt?

JCMElway
11-06-2009, 02:30 PM
True, good point.

Also, and this is probably stretching it a bit far, but is it a move to prevent the Colts from picking him up? They've lost like 3 starters this week...? 2 for the year I think.

Fantastic point. Keeping the colts weaker down the road. Good call.

scorpio
11-06-2009, 02:33 PM
They have.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Law

yeah NOW they have.

gyldenlove
11-06-2009, 02:35 PM
Imagine starting Bailey, Goodman, Dawkins and Law, not since Walther Mathau and Jack Lemmon has so many old men been so grumpy in one place at the same time.

PRBronco
11-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Imagine starting Bailey, Goodman, Dawkins and Law, not since Walther Mathau and Jack Lemmon has so many old men been so grumpy in one place at the same time.

I think I've figured it out. Coach McDaniels has figured out how to time travel back to 2000, and this is the secondary he wants to bring with him to dominate :approve:

bowtown
11-06-2009, 02:41 PM
I think I've figured it out. Coach McDaniels has figured out how to time travel back to 2000, and this is the secondary he wants to bring with him to dominate :approve:

Do we still have to use Griese?

Taco John
11-06-2009, 02:41 PM
I absolutely love this move. Absolutely, absolutely love it.

I'm crazy in love with this move.

Sassy
11-06-2009, 02:43 PM
What can Ty Law bring to our football team...gray hairs? This move is really questionable.

Some were questioning the Dawkins move as well...

PRBronco
11-06-2009, 02:44 PM
I absolutely love this move. Absolutely, absolutely love it.

I'm crazy in love with this move.

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/not_sure_if_srs.jpg

Rabb
11-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Some were questioning the Dawkins move as well...

And Buckhalter

crush17
11-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Something's wrong here... Jack MF Williams is more injured/sick than we're being told...

Sassy
11-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Tajuan Law was born the son of Raymond and Diane Law on Feb. 10, 1974 in Aliquippa, Pa. … He attended Aliquippa (Pa.) High and earned All-American first-team honors by Parade and Tom Lemming’s Prep Football Report … Played tailback, cornerback, safety, wide receiver and return specialist to help lead the team to the Class AA state title as a senior … Averaged 22.1 yards on 23 receptions, 10.1 yards on 45 rushes, 21.1 yards per punt return, recorded 71 tackles and picked off eight passes as a senior … He was a two-time team MVP … Also earned MVP honors in basketball … Ty has a daughter (Tya) and a son (Ty, Jr

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Is Jarvis Moss counted as a member of the active roster?

Sassy
11-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Imagine starting Bailey, Goodman, Dawkins and Law, not since Walther Mathau and Jack Lemmon has so many old men been so grumpy in one place at the same time.

At 6-1 I don't think they are grumpy :thanku:

Archer81
11-06-2009, 02:48 PM
I too was crazy in love with this move...

Then I realized its not 1998.

:Broncos:

Taco John
11-06-2009, 02:49 PM
http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/not_sure_if_srs.jpg



LOL!


I think anything to either replace or push Goodman is a good thing. I love that square in the middle of the season, the coaches went out and found a way to address a position that has shown to be a key weakness. Is Law going to work out? Who knows? But there's a chance that he will. And if he does, the upside is tremendous. Imagine what this defense could look like if Law, Dawkins, and Bailey click in the back field. Coverage sacks baby.

I understand the skepticism, and it's well founded. But what I love about this move is the aggressiveness of it to go right after a weakness in the middle of the season. It sends a message to the team.

Bronco Yoda
11-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Interesting....

Sassy
11-06-2009, 02:51 PM
He was born in 1974...Dawkins in 73.

Baba Booey
11-06-2009, 02:57 PM
http://atimetochoose.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/stanley-cup.jpg

Rabb
11-06-2009, 02:59 PM
LOL!


I think anything to either replace or push Goodman is a good thing. I love that square in the middle of the season, the coaches went out and found a way to address a position that has shown to be a key weakness. Is Law going to work out? Who knows? But there's a chance that he will. And if he does, the upside is tremendous. Imagine what this defense could look like if Law, Dawkins, and Bailey click in the back field. Coverage sacks baby.

I understand the skepticism, and it's well founded. But what I love about this move is the aggressiveness of it to go right after a weakness in the middle of the season. It sends a message to the team.

agreed 100%

crush17
11-06-2009, 03:02 PM
great point Taco.

Taco John
11-06-2009, 03:04 PM
I have to say though... If I was Jack Williams right now, I wouldn't feel like I just got a ringing endorsement of confidence from the coaches.

OBF1
11-06-2009, 03:04 PM
I am all for the move, What is the downside of this move??? Coach McDaniels has proven most of us are fools, why stop now?

gyldenlove
11-06-2009, 03:05 PM
At 6-1 I don't think they are grumpy :thanku:

Are you kidding me? Dawkins wears his barbeque scowl 24/7. Dawkins has been having a bad day since 1982 - the man is vicious. They had to get rid of him in Philly because he is so grumpy he scared the crap out of Mike Vicks fighting dogs.

Rabb
11-06-2009, 03:08 PM
I have to say though... If I was Jack Williams right now, I wouldn't feel like I just got a ringing endorsement of confidence from the coaches.

I am not sure he will work out in the nickel, he was so out of position when he has been in on a lot of plays

I like him on special teams and against the run though

Sassy
11-06-2009, 03:09 PM
Loved Ty in NE...as a Bronco the jury is still out...we'll see!

cmhargrove
11-06-2009, 03:11 PM
I found a pic of Ty Law his rookie year!

crazyhorse
11-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Weren't you the same people saying he looked like he was too old to still be in the NFL about 4 years ago? He lost a step? Getting torched over and over?

BlaK-Argentina
11-06-2009, 03:15 PM
I found a pic of Ty Law his rookie year!

:rofl::rofl:

BlaK-Argentina
11-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Weren't you the same people saying he looked like he was too old to still be in the NFL about 4 years ago? He lost a step? Getting torched over and over?

Of course. I seriously doubt they brought him in to start over Goodman. If they did, they must be reaaaally confident in Hill picking up after him.

BigPlayShay
11-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Maybe JMFW has H1N1 and we can get a roster exemption to carry an extra player?

Bronco Boy
11-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Ty has a daughter (Tya) and a son (Ty, Jr

That's good stuff.

Caveat Lector
11-06-2009, 03:28 PM
This could have been planned since pre-season. McDaniels/Law got together, and Law told him that he couldn't get through 16 games. McDaniels said stay in shape and we'll check back in again at halfway. And here we are...

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
*Assuming Ty Law passes his physical he is expected to play Monday night versus Pittsburgh. He has had some legendary battles with Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward.
*Also, Law signed a one-year deal with Denver that will pay him $600,000 in base salary, $200,000 in signing bonus and also includes another $400,000 in playtime and performance incentives.
Law would earn up to an additional $200,000 if he participated in 80 percent of Denver's plays, and up to $200,000 for four interceptions.
Law could earn a minimum of $150,000 in incentives if he participates in 50 percent of Denver's plays and $150,000 for two interceptions.

Rohirrim
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
LOL!


I think anything to either replace or push Goodman is a good thing. I love that square in the middle of the season, the coaches went out and found a way to address a position that has shown to be a key weakness. Is Law going to work out? Who knows? But there's a chance that he will. And if he does, the upside is tremendous. Imagine what this defense could look like if Law, Dawkins, and Bailey click in the back field. Coverage sacks baby.

I understand the skepticism, and it's well founded. But what I love about this move is the aggressiveness of it to go right after a weakness in the middle of the season. It sends a message to the team.

Well said. :thumbs:

jhns
11-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Man, I thought giving away Cutler was a bad move. This one takes the cake though. Signing law puts this team back at least a decade.

slyinky
11-06-2009, 03:36 PM
I would rather they had signed Ty Lawson. Crazy quick and would make an excellent CB.

s0phr0syne
11-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Weren't you the same people saying he looked like he was too old to still be in the NFL about 4 years ago? He lost a step? Getting torched over and over?



Yep!:flower:


I'm still pretty skeptical that this move improves the team, but as others have expressed, at this point even the skeptics among us have learned our lesson and are holding off on any absolute statements of ridicule lest we reheat the crow oh so quickly.

The big diff. between what KC and NYJ did and what we're doing with this move is that Law won't be counted to be anything more than a #4 corner most of the time. I don't know if he plays ST or not....?

As for him playing safety, I don't know if that's even an option. I've never watched much of Law, but I don't recall him being a sound tackler. Is he?

BigPlayShay
11-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Maybe another geezer, like Lamont Jordan, gets the axe to make room for Law.

bowtown
11-06-2009, 03:37 PM
Weren't you the same people saying he looked like he was too old to still be in the NFL about 4 years ago? He lost a step? Getting torched over and over?

It's hard to be motivated to play at the top of your game when you are on a team with a losing culture and no promise in sight.

SouthStndJunkie
11-06-2009, 03:41 PM
Ty Law (52), Champ Bailey (44), Brian Dawkins (34), Renaldo Hill (16), and Andre Goodman (13) have a combined 159 career interceptions between the 5 of them.

snowspot66
11-06-2009, 04:01 PM
So who got cut?

Popps
11-06-2009, 04:01 PM
I have no idea what Law has left, but he'll come cheap and he knows what he's doing out there. This is a move clearly brought about by a concern after looking at the Baltimore tape. Someone in the secondary isn't doing their job, and maybe Law helps straighten that out.

WolfpackGuy
11-06-2009, 04:11 PM
Coulda used him last week against Kelly Washington.

He should have enough gas left to last 9+ weeks.

So who got the boot?

BroncoDoug
11-06-2009, 04:12 PM
So who got cut?

we don't know yet, he still has to pass a physical... Maybe JMFW? But hillis didn't practice today with non injury.... Just pleaseing the conspiracy theroist

Popps
11-06-2009, 04:17 PM
we don't know yet, he still has to pass a physical... Maybe JMFW? But hillis didn't practice today with non injury.... Just pleaseing the conspiracy theroist

Interesting.

He apparently might have had another problem on the kick return last week.

Would surprise me, but not shock me, given rumors I've heard.

Mr.Meanie
11-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Man, I thought giving away Cutler was a bad move. This one takes the cake though. Signing law puts this team back at least a decade.

Ha!

nicely done

521 1N5
11-06-2009, 04:33 PM
I found a pic of Ty Law his rookie year!

lmao

outdoor_miner
11-06-2009, 05:02 PM
we don't know yet, he still has to pass a physical... Maybe JMFW? But hillis didn't practice today with non injury.... Just pleaseing the conspiracy theroist

Yeah - I'd be pretty disappointed if Hillis is really the one let go. I know he has "dropped the ball" (so to speak) on several opportunities this year, but I still think he has a lot of potential to be a weapon.

The media is speculating about Hillis as well:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_13730277

The Broncos did not formally make a roster move to add Law, but running back Peyton Hillis did not attend practice Friday and was not seen in the locker room by the media during an open period.

Rocket 7
11-06-2009, 05:04 PM
Per ESPN

Law signed a one-year, $800,000 deal with Denver that includes a $200,000 signing bonus. He could earn up to $400,000 in playtime and performance incentives.

DenverBrit
11-06-2009, 05:08 PM
More work for the equipment manager.

http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/photos_large/2008/04/18/Happy_Old_Man_in_Walker.jpg

BigPlayShay
11-06-2009, 05:21 PM
McD on the fan says hillis dealing w/family issue. Not going anywhere

Taco John
11-06-2009, 05:22 PM
Ty Law (52), Champ Bailey (44), Brian Dawkins (34), Renaldo Hill (16), and Andre Goodman (13) have a combined 159 career interceptions between the 5 of them.

Add my name to that list. I also have 159 interceptions combined with those guys.

WyoLaw
11-06-2009, 05:24 PM
McD on the fan says hillis dealing w/family issue. Not going anywhere

Even though Hillis hasn't played well this year, it would be a mistake to cut him. Glad to hear he wasn't at practice for another reason, although that reason might not be good for him personally.

HEAV
11-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Damn I go out for a few hours and this happens! I know Jack Williams was owned last week by K. Washington I just assumed Smith would get a shot at nickle.

Interesting...

KevinJames
11-06-2009, 05:43 PM
jarvis moss is likely getting cut.

Hogan11
11-06-2009, 05:45 PM
Maybe another geezer, like Lamont Jordan, gets the axe to make room for Law.

I'd second that

Beej
11-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Maybe another geezer, like Lamont Jordan, gets the axe to make room for Law.

Oh please let it be Jordan.

frerottenextelway
11-06-2009, 05:47 PM
Ty Law has been one of my least fav players through the years. I've never seen a defender cheat as much as him and get away with it because of his name and his team. Oh well, go Ty Law!

HEAV
11-06-2009, 05:50 PM
jarvis moss is likely getting cut.

Werd! Dude just barely survived the final cut.

HEAV
11-06-2009, 05:52 PM
I have to say though... If I was Jack Williams right now, I wouldn't feel like I just got a ringing endorsement of confidence from the coaches.

I think he may have noticed it during the film review of teh Ravens game. He was juked, pushed and at one point fell down trying to cover Kelly Washington!

KevinJames
11-06-2009, 05:57 PM
Brandon Lloyd has been inactive like every week maybe hes getting the axe?

elsid13
11-06-2009, 05:57 PM
I think he may have noticed it during the film review of teh Ravens game. He was juked, pushed and at one point fell down trying to cover Kelly Washington!

He's a young CB, and it takes time for those guys to develop. It would be stupid to throw away a young cheap player, that shown flashes that he can play for a guy that won't be here next season.

crazyhorse
11-06-2009, 06:04 PM
It's hard to be motivated to play at the top of your game when you are on a team with a losing culture and no promise in sight.

I believe we were winning back then. I could be wrong. I know we were before he got there.

We just had a lousy defense. We picked him up to make it better. We were worse.

outdoor_miner
11-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Brandon Lloyd has been inactive like every week maybe hes getting the axe?

Ooh - good call. This would be my vote. Although, Jarvis is a good choice, too...

HEAV
11-06-2009, 06:28 PM
He's a young CB, and it takes time for those guys to develop. It would be stupid to throw away a young cheap player, that shown flashes that he can play for a guy that won't be here next season.

Who said anything about cutting him? I just said that Jack should have known his nickle spot was in troublr after seeing teh game film of his play verse the Ravens.

elsid13
11-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Who said anything about cutting him? I just said that Jack should have known his nickle spot was in troublr after seeing teh game film of his play verse the Ravens.

I read your and TJ's posts the wrong way. I'm hoping that the current staff doesn't think short term vs long term for this team.

SouthStndJunkie
11-06-2009, 07:07 PM
Add my name to that list. I also have 159 interceptions combined with those guys.

Ty Law (52), Champ Bailey (44), Brian Dawkins (34), Renaldo Hill (16), Andre Goodman (13), and Taco John (0) have a combined 159 career interceptions between the 6 of them.

HEAV
11-06-2009, 07:09 PM
I read your and TJ's posts the wrong way. I'm hoping that the current staff doesn't think short term vs long term for this team.

Again a few short months ago many had this team written off... Now some want a Super Bowl, while others want to develop the youth.

But some of the youth needs pushed and learn how to play. Ty Law is going to do both...or at least try to push these guys. If jack wants his gig back then he will have to earn it or hope for Ty Law to fail/get hurt.

I'm all for giving the young guys there chances, but last week Jack F'n Willaims got owned.

Circle Orange
11-06-2009, 07:14 PM
Oh enough of this Patriot invasion, already! He was expendable two years ago. What could he possibly have left? Next we'll be hearing about Seau on the next flight as he retires, then unretires, then retires, then...:oyvey:

errand
11-06-2009, 08:03 PM
What can Ty Law bring to our football team...gray hairs? This move is really questionable.

Leadership, a positive locker room presence....

Bronx33
11-06-2009, 08:14 PM
why ohhhhh why...

Bronx33
11-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Ohhhh i know all the rookies can watch and learn what not to do ( it's almost diabolical on MCDs part)

Rocket 7
11-06-2009, 08:17 PM
why ohhhhh why...

More knowledgable than Jimmy "Coach" Spencer. Without going to meetings.

theAPAOps5
11-06-2009, 08:24 PM
Oh enough of this Patriot invasion, already! He was expendable two years ago. What could he possibly have left? Next we'll be hearing about Seau on the next flight as he retires, then unretires, then retires, then...:oyvey:

6-1 hard to criticize his choices thus far

cutthemdown
11-06-2009, 08:31 PM
What can Ty Law bring to our football team...gray hairs? This move is really questionable.

Not really. Ty Law a zone player mostly now. He knows how to play in a zone and that is important when facing teams that throw a lot of WR out there. I doubt he starts but instead is used when Broncos have an injury, or when we need extra dbacks.

hambone13
11-06-2009, 08:36 PM
That's good stuff.

Whatever, lame and prideful. Trust me I come from a family of J's...Jason, James, Jerry and Joanne....uggg get creative will ya?

baja
11-06-2009, 08:40 PM
I absolutely love this move. Absolutely, absolutely love it.

I'm crazy in love with this move.

I don't know I heard Law is a gutless drunk.;D

Dagmar
11-06-2009, 08:46 PM
If we cut Moss, or Lloyd, inactives and pointless all year for more leadership it seems like a good move to me.

Wes Mantooth
11-06-2009, 08:48 PM
I heard Law is a great punter.

bombay
11-06-2009, 08:56 PM
Ty Lawson is good. Real good.

crazyhorse
11-06-2009, 09:08 PM
Why go buy leadership when you have Dawkins?

Law isn't the leader type anyway. He was a good player in his day. But he just has to be signed for depth. If not, you guys are in trouble on the corner.

Taco John
11-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Ty Law (52), Champ Bailey (44), Brian Dawkins (34), Renaldo Hill (16), Andre Goodman (13), and Taco John (0) have a combined 159 career interceptions between the 6 of them.



That's what I'm talkin' 'bout...

spdirty
11-06-2009, 09:16 PM
Not gonna question what this guy does. Judge him on wins and losses and thats it.

Bronco Warrior
11-06-2009, 09:25 PM
We have plenty of Veteren leadership! We don't need anoher gimp from foxburough!

Bronco Warrior
11-06-2009, 09:28 PM
First roster move : Berger and a loss! We don't replace thatcrapsicle Berger and we bring in another broken down old has-been, One more loss?

Cleo McDowell
11-06-2009, 09:34 PM
We have plenty of Veteren leadership! We don't need anoher gimp from foxburough!

dear freakshow,
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Kaylore
11-06-2009, 09:41 PM
Ooh - good call. This would be my vote. Although, Jarvis is a good choice, too...

McDaniels says that they like using Moss a lot on scout team and that he's doing fine. He went off on him last press conference (in not a bad way.)

theAPAOps5
11-06-2009, 09:53 PM
mcdaniels says that they like using moss a lot on scout team and that he's doing fine. He went off on him last press conference (in not a bad way.)

best first round pick scout team player ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

s0phr0syne
11-06-2009, 09:54 PM
McDaniels says that they like using Moss a lot on scout team and that he's doing fine. He went off on him last press conference (in not a bad way.)



We all know that's the KOD from McD. Time to pack 'em up Jarvis!
8')

Bronx33
11-06-2009, 10:07 PM
dear freakshow,
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ZONA
11-06-2009, 10:20 PM
I think he was brought in for depth and to use in possible match-ups against QB's or WR's he's had good success against. If he already knows tendencies of certain players, that could help him, or even the guy playing in front of him if he gives the information up.

Archer81
11-06-2009, 11:06 PM
First roster move : Berger and a loss! We don't replace thatcrapsicle Berger and we bring in another broken down old has-been, One more loss?


The gift that keeps on giving.


:Broncos:

snowspot66
11-06-2009, 11:13 PM
We have plenty of Veteren leadership! We don't need anoher gimp from foxburough!

First roster move : Berger and a loss! We don't replace thatcrapsicle Berger and we bring in another broken down old has-been, One more loss?

You can have too much leadership?

Our punter really cost us that game eh?

Douche bag.

UberBroncoMan
11-06-2009, 11:29 PM
You can have too much leadership?

Our punter really cost us that game eh?

Douche bag.

To be fair Berger was really really ****ing bad. He gave them ridiculous field position.

UberBroncoMan
11-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Werd! Dude just barely survived the final cut.

McDaniels is quoted as saying Jarvis Moss has been the BEST "look" player on the team 5 out of 6 weeks. A look player is someone who essentially plays as a person from the other team ie practice squad. He actually seems beneficial. I'd toss LaMont Jordan for Law in a heart beat. We already have 3 RB's without him, and if one gets IR we have a guy waiting on the PS.

Will McDaniels have the balls to cut an ex-Pat though.

snowspot66
11-06-2009, 11:33 PM
To be fair Berger was really really ****ing bad. He gave them ridiculous field position.

His only problem was the ridiculously slow kicks. The net distance was about what we got with Kern.

19Morton77
11-07-2009, 12:06 AM
His only problem was the ridiculously slow kicks. The net distance was about what we got with Kern.

so? Look where that landed Kern. Plus, Kern never left with a net average of 25 yards like we saw when Berger "kicked" one for 25 yards to center field. Berger had more bad kicks than good.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-07-2009, 12:12 AM
The slide continues.

The Chiefs' slide was helped along by Ty Flaw, too.

snowspot66
11-07-2009, 12:31 AM
so? Look where that landed Kern. Plus, Kern never left with a net average of 25 yards like we saw when Berger "kicked" one for 25 yards to center field. Berger had more bad kicks than good.

So? The point was that in his infinite wisdom Warrior connected bringing in Berger to the Broncos losing. Besides. Kern had his own fair share of bad kicks and the punter is the last person on Earth who gets to yell back at the coach.

snowspot66
11-07-2009, 12:31 AM
The slide continues.

The Chiefs' slide was helped along by Ty Flaw, too.

Really? I thought it was Carl an Herm's five year plan that sent them down the ****ter.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-07-2009, 12:51 AM
Really? I thought it was Carl an Herm's five year plan that sent them down the ****ter.

Ty Flaw was just another brick in the wall.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-07-2009, 12:53 AM
In all seriousness, this is the kind of move you make when you're pushing for the playoffs and think you might have an outside shot at pulling off a huge upset in the postseason.

The Broncos are going all-in.

boltaneer
11-07-2009, 02:25 AM
This move makes no sense.

Caveat Lector
11-07-2009, 02:54 AM
The slide continues.

The Chiefs' slide was helped along by Ty Flaw, too.

Yeah, when he was you're no.1 corner. He's going to be no more than our 3rd...

lazarus4444
11-07-2009, 03:29 AM
He's obviously being brought in for nickel and dime packages. JMFW just plain wasn't getting it done, he sucks.

Soul-Bronco
11-07-2009, 04:30 AM
this move makes perect sense. on those short or long third downs, our nickel package CB's will be bailey goodman and law. Even tho hes pretty old, most 3rd string recievers are not gonna really beat ty law.

400HZ
11-07-2009, 05:02 AM
Having old 3rd or 4th cornerbacks is dumb. You need the guys in those positions to be some of your top special teamers.

elsid13
11-07-2009, 05:15 AM
So who got released ?

Ramathorn
11-07-2009, 05:35 AM
Great Ty law. now we just need to go out and get john lynch out of retirement, give em both some magic unicorn seman, which will in turn age em back 10 years, AND WE WILL HAVE THE GREATEST SECONDARY EVER!!!

HILife
11-07-2009, 05:36 AM
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Championship!

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TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-07-2009, 06:34 AM
The slide continues.


Another cock in your mouth, Boob?

azbroncfan
11-07-2009, 08:14 AM
The slide continues.

The Chiefs' slide was helped along by Ty Flaw, too.

You just throw sh@t and hope it sticks. Your football knowledge has proved to be about the worst around. Law isn't going to make a difference one way or another.

UberBroncoMan
11-07-2009, 08:57 AM
You just throw sh@t and hope it sticks. Your football knowledge has proved to be about the worst around. Law isn't going to make a difference one way or another.

Champ Bailey couldn't do **** for the Chiefs.

Majik
11-07-2009, 09:12 AM
So who got released ?

Jack Williams was waived.

Rocket 7
11-07-2009, 09:14 AM
Jack Williams was waived.

This was on his facebook page

"Gotta turn da page in dis book. All things happen for a reason"

Ramathorn
11-07-2009, 09:14 AM
And now it is official: Broncos signed five-time Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law and waived cornerback Jack Williams.4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/5508911424) from UberTwitter (http://ubertwitter.com/)

s0phr0syne
11-07-2009, 09:16 AM
Damn.


I don't think the move is that big of deal, EXCEPT for the fact that we now have only Alphonso as a young CB to develop. Everyone else is old as ****.

tsiguy96
11-07-2009, 09:17 AM
feel bad for JMFW, he will be a legend here for awhile. i am pretty confident he gets signed, no question, just hope not with the browns, i wouldnt wish that on anyone.

azbroncfan
11-07-2009, 09:28 AM
This was on his facebook page

"Gotta turn da page in dis book. All things happen for a reason"

If that is true it would make sense since part of the Patriot/MCD foundation is smart football players and not dumb illiterate players.

rastaman
11-07-2009, 09:43 AM
What can Ty Law bring to our football team...gray hairs? This move is really questionable.

Law was brought in to help Dawkins get thru the 2009 season. With the amount of time the Defense is on the field b/c the offense can't move the ball consistently, Ty Law may be able to keep Dawkins legs fresh this season.

crazyhorse
11-07-2009, 09:44 AM
You just throw sh@t and hope it sticks. Your football knowledge has proved to be about the worst around. Law isn't going to make a difference one way or another.

Look...take it easy on the guy. He's trying to get his **** together. Here he is trying to educate the public in a different forum. He definately knows more about this subject, than he does football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2U-ZQMf56I

Bronx33
11-07-2009, 10:12 AM
law= paymah/foxworth 2.0 only older.

HAT
11-07-2009, 11:02 AM
Law was brought in to help Dawkins get thru the 2009 season. With the amount of time the Defense is on the field b/c the offense can't move the ball consistently, Ty Law may be able to keep Dawkins legs fresh this season.

^^^FAIL^^^

Denver is #13 in the league in TOP with 30:30

Crushisback
11-07-2009, 11:28 AM
Makes sense to me. Williams got owned again and again on third downs last week. He made Washington look like Jerry Rice.

Bronco Yoda
11-07-2009, 11:37 AM
In all seriousness, this is the kind of move you make when you're pushing for the playoffs and think you might have an outside shot at pulling off a huge upset in the postseason.

The Broncos are going all-in.

feels good to be in this position doesn't it... oooops.... you wouldn't know that Hilarious!

PRBronco
11-07-2009, 01:02 PM
Damn.


I don't think the move is that big of deal, EXCEPT for the fact that we now have only Alphonso as a young CB to develop. Everyone else is old as ****.

Well, they've got 2 CBs on the PS too. Corners that McDaniels actually sought out and signed. JMFW on the other hand was part of the package when he came here. I guess McD has something he's looking for in young corners, and Jack didn't have it.

Good luck Jack!

BroncoInferno
11-07-2009, 01:09 PM
Wasted roster spot, Law has long been washed up.

Depends on what you mean by "washed up." If you mean no longer an elite CB, then yes. If you mean he isn't better than Jack Williams, then no, you're wrong. I like this move because he isn't being brought in as a starter the way the Jets did last season; he is being brought in for depth. And as a guy with 52 career INTs, I think they are looking for some impact with regards to turnovers as well. The financial risk is minimal, and we drop a player with a lot of scrap but not much upside due to his size. I don't see much risk here.

BroncoInferno
11-07-2009, 01:11 PM
Law was brought in to help Dawkins get thru the 2009 season. With the amount of time the Defense is on the field b/c the offense can't move the ball consistently, Ty Law may be able to keep Dawkins legs fresh this season.

Nice try, but the Denver D is on the field less the half the game already. Offense averages 30:30 TOP per game, 13th in the league. Not awesome or anything, but hardly terrible.

Bronco Yoda
11-07-2009, 02:35 PM
It would seem that Law is here for nickel & Dime packages. Our nickel was gouged last week. Who can complain about proven experience. That is if he still has any tread on his wheels left.

McD is in THIS SEASON mode now trying to seize the moment leaving next years continual rebuild for next year.

Any sighting of punters secretly trying out this week?

Hogan11
11-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Depends on what you mean by "washed up." If you mean no longer an elite CB, then yes. If you mean he isn't better than Jack Williams, then no, you're wrong. I like this move because he isn't being brought in as a starter the way the Jets did last season; he is being brought in for depth. And as a guy with 52 career INTs, I think they are looking for some impact with regards to turnovers as well. The financial risk is minimal, and we drop a player with a lot of scrap but not much upside due to his size. I don't see much risk here.


Just because he's not a starter doesn't mean he won't look as brutal as he did out there for the Jets last year, be it as depth or in nickel/dime packages. Yes he's a former elite CB with 50 + career INTs and such, but it's a "what have you done for me lately" league and when it comes to Law, his lately is stinking up the Jets defensive backfield via an empty tank and 2 lost steps.

Don't get me wrong, JMFW wasn't anything special at all, but when it comes to which player is better at the moment....well, I see it as a push.

BroncoInferno
11-07-2009, 02:51 PM
Just because he's not a starter doesn't mean he won't look as brutal as he did out there for the Jets last year, be it as depth or in nickel/dime packages. Yes he's a former elite CB with 50 + career INTs and such, but it's a "what have you done for me lately" league and when it comes to Law, his lately is stinking up the Jets defensive backfield via an empty tank and 2 lost steps.

Don't get me wrong, JMFW wasn't anything special at all, but when it comes to which player is better at the moment....well, I see it as a push.

Well, it seems reasonable to me that "he won't look as brutal as he did out there for the Jets" because he will be covering lesser quality receivers. He won't be covering the Randy Mosses of the world, he will be covering 3rd and 4th guys. I doubt he will look as brutal as Williams did guarding backup receivers. And his proven nose for the ball could prove invaluable.

Hogan11
11-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Well, it seems reasonable to me that "he won't look as brutal as he did out there for the Jets" because he will be covering lesser quality receivers. He won't be covering the Randy Mosses of the world, he will be covering 3rd and 4th guys. I doubt he will look as brutal as Williams did guarding backup receivers. And his proven nose for the ball could prove invaluable.

I hope you're right because a proven nose with no legs to carry it doesn't get you very far.

BroncoInferno
11-07-2009, 03:22 PM
I hope you're right because a proven nose with no legs to carry it doesn't get you very far.

Don't misunderstand, I don't think this is on par with the 49ers signing a prime Deion Sanders midseason in 1994. But I can see what McDaniels is going for here. This isn't some desperate situation where we have no CBs and are bringing him in on a wing and a prayer. The staff obviously felt Williams was not cutting it. Quality players simply aren't sitting on the street without a job at this time of year. In other words, you probably are not going to be able to get any upgrade by replacing Williams with a street guy at this point. So, why not take a shot at a guy like Law? The money he is receiving is inconsequential. And if he can turn a game or two with a pick, it may be worth it. At worse, it's a push and we look to upgrade in the offseason. Don't really see a downside here.

KevinJames
11-07-2009, 04:30 PM
Law mentored Revis in NY took him under his wing, maybe he can do the same thing for A Smith

oubronco
11-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Law mentored Revis in NY took him under his wing, maybe he can do the same thing for A Smith

I thought that was Bailey's job

broncosteven
11-07-2009, 06:49 PM
Weren't you the same people saying he looked like he was too old to still be in the NFL about 4 years ago? He lost a step? Getting torched over and over?

THis is the only reason I can't get behind this move. Maybe if he is still here in 4 weeks and has played well each week but not until he shows me what is left in the tank.

Watch JMFW get signed by the colts and become the next MONTAE REAGOR

Circle Orange
11-07-2009, 07:04 PM
6-1 hard to criticize his choices thus far

I dunno, sometimes you can go to the well too many times. Ty Law has a somewhat checkered history with the Pats at the end of his career. Didn't he hold out or something and Bellychick told him to take a walk? Or is MacD counting on an ex-fired up disgruntled player?

baja
11-07-2009, 07:48 PM
I dunno, sometimes you can go to the well too many times. Ty Law has a somewhat checkered history with the Pats at the end of his career. Didn't he hold out or something and Bellychick told him to take a walk? Or is MacD counting on an ex-fired up disgruntled player?

I think McD had a spot on the fifty yard line for those games so he must know what he is getting, wouldn't ya think?

Taco John
11-07-2009, 11:01 PM
I have to say though... If I was Jack Williams right now, I wouldn't feel like I just got a ringing endorsement of confidence from the coaches.

This isn't too suprising a move. While I liked the guy's athletic potential, I like the message that Josh is sending to the team even more.

This isn't about my bad anymore. Do your job.

s0phr0syne
11-07-2009, 11:33 PM
This isn't too suprising a move. While I liked the guy's athletic potential, I like the message that Josh is sending to the team even more.

This isn't about my bad anymore. Do your job.



You guys do realize that Washington has abused a lot of teams' 3rd corner throughout this season, right?

It's not as though JMFW was the first to have that befall him, and he certainly won't be the last.

Doesn't matter, obviously the staff (theoretically) has more insight than we do for why they cut him. But the reasons that people are fabricating (with good evidence) for the pro-side of cutting Williams are just as bad as the people who are idealizing Williams's play in an attempt to prove that this was bad move.

Taco John
11-07-2009, 11:50 PM
You guys do realize that Washington has abused a lot of teams' 3rd corner throughout this season, right?

It's not as though JMFW was the first to have that befall him, and he certainly won't be the last.

Doesn't matter, obviously the staff (theoretically) has more insight than we do for why they cut him. But the reasons that people are fabricating (with good evidence) for the pro-side of cutting Williams are just as bad as the people who are idealizing Williams's play in an attempt to prove that this was bad move.


He wouldn't have been at the top of my list of players to cut. But someone made a good point when they said that Jack Williams and Alphonso Smith are practically the same player. So why do we need two of them when we've got a higher priced guy with (arguably) more upside who can do the same things?

tnedator
11-07-2009, 11:58 PM
This isn't too suprising a move. While I liked the guy's athletic potential, I like the message that Josh is sending to the team even more.

This isn't about my bad anymore. Do your job.

Let's just hope it turns out better than the Kern to Berger (whatever his name is) move looked last week.

s0phr0syne
11-08-2009, 12:06 AM
He wouldn't have been at the top of my list of players to cut. But someone made a good point when they said that Jack Williams and Alphonso Smith are practically the same player. So why do we need two of them when we've got a higher priced guy with (arguably) more upside who can do the same things?



Agreed to some extent. Two guys, who are practically the same player, but who are both young.

The only logical reason to not like the move is if you are in the camp that believes that Law is not a quality player. I happen to be in that camp, but luckily for us, McD clearly is not. He'll probably end up being right, but if he's not, it's not a move that will make/break this team.

easymobee
11-08-2009, 05:41 AM
The slide continues.

The Chiefs' slide was helped along by Ty Flaw, too.

I can't accept you negative take on this one.

Not when you and the rest of the Planateers fawned over Law for over a year, wishing and hoping he would sign with the Chiefs.

When he did, other than a few grumbles about his advancing age, he was welcomed in with open arms and high hopes as a starting CB.

I also can't accept this kind of take from someone who invented a mythical alter ego for Sammy Knight.

UberBroncoMan
11-08-2009, 07:25 AM
Another thing I believe SO many people are forgetting is... WE HAVE TWO CB'S ON OUR PRACTICE SQUAD.

One who is 5'9 just like JMFW and another who is 6'1.

For all we know they are progressing well and letting go of JMFW for an experienced albeit old former All-Pro and potentially HALL OF FAME CB to play THIRD CB seemed like a good idea.

I for one am all for this move. People forget just how dominant Ty Law was in the past. Tell me right now you wouldn't want Champ Bailey as our nickle CB in 4 years over a 2nd year 5'9 CB who didnt' get much playing time his rookie year.

Don't forget too that Darrelle Revis owes a ton to Ty Law for his tutelage.

Also remember that Champ Bailey went to Washington when both Darrell Green and Deion Sanders (both 33+ years old at the time) were there coaching him up. Who knows how Bailey would have turned out if he ended up on a different team where he was thrust into a starting roll with no experienced let alone future HOF CB's to guide him.

Now we got Alphonso Smith and two PS CB's learning from Champ Bailey and Ty Law.

People really need to get their heads on strait here. This is a solid move by picking up someone that's not going to make stupid mistakes or **** up assignments as a freaking NICKLE BACK.

Law is the same age as Dawkins BTW.

Bronco Warrior
11-09-2009, 09:36 AM
Signing old and broken, and cutting bold and strokin' is not a smart idea, IMO, long term! JMFW is a baller with great tackling and ball instincts. Two different 'casters compared his play to a young Champ Bailey (although one was Collinsworth and one was Aikmen so....) and he was the unsung hero in the Dallas game-ending goal-line stop. I'm not happy about this at all and would be more open-minded if It hadn't come the week after the Berger debaucle and a loss! Something smells fishy and it isn't your girlfriends! JK!

snowspot66
11-09-2009, 10:08 AM
Signing old and broken, and cutting bold and strokin' is not a smart idea, IMO, long term! JMFW is a baller with great tackling and ball instincts. Two different 'casters compared his play to a young Champ Bailey (although one was Collinsworth and one was Aikmen so....) and he was the unsung hero in the Dallas game-ending goal-line stop. I'm not happy about this at all and would be more open-minded if It hadn't come the week after the Berger debaucle and a loss! Something smells fishy and it isn't your girlfriends! JK!

What Jack Williams have you been watching?

Hercules Rockefeller
11-09-2009, 10:15 AM
What Jack Williams have you been watching?

The one who had a pick 6 in the preseason last year, AFAIK, that Jack Williams has never played another down for the Broncos so we're all basing his awesomeness off of one play.

bowtown
11-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Signing old and broken, and cutting bold and strokin' is not a smart idea, IMO, long term! JMFW is a baller with great tackling and ball instincts. Two different 'casters compared his play to a young Champ Bailey (although one was Collinsworth and one was Aikmen so....) and he was the unsung hero in the Dallas game-ending goal-line stop. I'm not happy about this at all and would be more open-minded if It hadn't come the week after the Berger debaucle and a loss! Something smells fishy and it isn't your girlfriends! JK!

God you are annoying.

Kaylore
11-09-2009, 10:36 AM
The one who had a pick 6 in the preseason last year, AFAIK, that Jack Williams has never played another down for the Broncos so we're all basing his awesomeness off of one play.

But that's what we do here! Chris Simms played fourth string scrubs in preseason and under-threw a TD to McKinnley therefore he is better than Orton!

Jack Williams picks off a QB for the Cardinals not in the league anymore and runs it back for a touchdown and he's the greatest player ever!!

Popps
11-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Signing old and broken, and cutting bold and strokin' is not a smart idea, IMO, long term! JMFW is a baller with great tackling and ball instincts.

Really? Where has Williams landed? There must be a bidding war for his services. Where's he playing now?

Odd, that such a "baller" couldn't land a starting job in two different defenses with two different head coaches.

Guess Shanahan and McDaniels need your direct line...

Popps
11-09-2009, 10:38 AM
But that's what we do here! Chris Simms played fourth string scrubs in preseason and under-threw a TD to McKinnley therefore he is better than Orton!

Jack Williams picks off a QB for the Cardinals not in the league anymore and runs it back for a touchdown and he's the greatest player ever!!

Conversely, our rookie RB leads our team (and all rookies) in rushing, and he's garbage and a wasted pick.

Gotta love the mane!

broncocalijohn
11-09-2009, 08:02 PM
KMFW is now a Lion. Four teams wanted him including the Colts. Ty Law so far in the first half has been a plus. Nothing loss in this defense with Williams gone and Law in.

atomicbloke
11-09-2009, 10:31 PM
KMFW is now a Lion. Four teams wanted him including the Colts. Ty Law so far in the first half has been a plus. Nothing loss in this defense with Williams gone and Law in.

Except Law is old and wont be playing long while JMFW could play for a long time, is young and still learning and had far more upside....

Coaches sacrifice the future for the present when they feel they are contending for a Super Bowl in that season.... we are clearly not... so this move is another one of McD's head scratchers...

Hogan11
11-09-2009, 10:37 PM
I have to admit, Law actually looked pretty good out there tonight....if anyone look old, slow and clueless in tonight's game, it was Bailey.

That had to be the worst game I've seen Champ have in quite awhile.