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peacepipe
10-30-2009, 05:36 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isabel-macdonald/nj-law-enforcement-appear_b_339696.html
LOL, the police expose Dobbs for the fool he is.

Interviews with the New Jersey State Police yielded a rather different assessment of the events described by Dobbs. In a phone interview conducted yesterday, Sgt. Stephen Jones, a NJ State Police spokesperson, chuckled out loud after he heard about Dobbs' account of the gunfire incident. Jones commented that he "wouldn't classify it [the gunfire incident] as very unusual." He also confirmed that there are hunters in the area, and stated that, "at this time of year hunter [shooting] complaints go up."
He observed that in the ongoing police investigation sparked by Dobbs' complaint, "nothing has been determined [regarding] what the intended target for this bullet was." Nor did Jones confirm whether the shots near Dobbs' house appeared to be an accident or intentional.

Another New Jersey State Police spokesperson, Sgt. Julian Castellanos, noted that "it's a wide open area and there are hunters in the area." Castellanos explained that the bullet had hit the house in vicinity of the attic; it "hit the vinyl siding and fell to the ground" without penetrating the vinyl, he said.

While Lou Dobbs' wife, Debi Lee Segura, was standing outside the house at the time of the gunfire, the bullet did not come close to her; it "struck at the apex of the house, near the roof," and thus considerably higher than a standing person, Jones observed.

Jones says he had not seen any mention of death threats in the reports about this incident. As Dobbs stated on his October 26 radio show, the CNN host had "decided not to report" "threatening phone calls" he says he has received.

The New Jersey police made no mention of the immigration reform groups Dobbs discussed in connection with the incident.

When asked to comment for this story, Dobbs disputed the New Jersey State Police's account, saying in an email that "there was no hunting season underway three weeks ago." However, an official at the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife Bureau of Law Enforcement confirmed in a phone interview that state hunting seasons were underway at the time of the gunfire incident three weeks ago.

Rohirrim
10-30-2009, 05:43 PM
http://24ahead.com/images/geraldorivera.jpg

"You tell Lou Dobbs, I'm ready to rumble!"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-10-2010, 08:20 AM
Lou Dobbs, American Hypocrite

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In Lou Dobbs's heyday at CNN, when he commanded more than 800,000 viewers and a reported $6 million a year for "his fearless reporting and commentary," in the words of former CNN president Jonathan Klein, the host became notorious for his angry rants against "illegal aliens." But Dobbs reserved a special venom for the employers who hire them, railing against "the employer who is so shamelessly exploiting the illegal alien and so shamelessly flouting US law" and even proposing, on one April 2006 show, that "illegal employers who hire illegal aliens" should face felony charges.

Since he left CNN last November, after Latino groups mounted a protest campaign against his inflammatory rhetoric, Dobbs has continued to advocate an enforcement-first approach to immigration, emphasizing, as he did in a March 2010 interview on Univision, that "the illegal employer is the central issue in this entire mess!"
His scheduled October 9 address at the Virginia Tea Party Convention will mark his second major Tea Party address of the year, reviving questions about whether the former CNN host is gearing up for an electoral campaign. He recently told Fox's Sean Hannity that he has not ruled out a possible Senate or even presidential run in 2012.

But with his relentless diatribes against "illegals" and their employers, Dobbs is casting stones from a house—make that an estate—of glass. Based on a yearlong investigation, including interviews with five immigrants who worked without papers on his properties, The Nation and the Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute have found that Dobbs has relied for years on undocumented labor for the upkeep of his multimillion-dollar estates and the horses he keeps for his 22-year-old daughter, Hillary, a champion show jumper.

Dobbs lives in a sprawling white mansion on his 300-acre estate in Sussex, New Jersey, where he and his family run a horse farm. In 2005 he acquired another house—a spacious multimillion-dollar winter holiday home in Eagle Isle, the most exclusive enclave of the Ibis Golf and Country Club, a gated community in West Palm Beach, Florida. It offers his daughter a place to stay during her competitions at the Wellington Winter Equestrian Festival, one of the most important events in the horse show world.

Dobbs's daughter keeps five European Warmbloods, a breed that often fetches close to $1 million apiece. In the official results of her competitions, her horses' owner is always listed as The Dobbs Group—a corporate entity for which few details are available on the public record. However, incorporation documents and other state records reveal it to be a New Jersey company of which Lou Dobbs is president. This same company also owns the copyright on Dobbs's books.

The upkeep of Dobbs's multiple properties creates no small demand for labor in two sectors where undocumented immigrants are known to be particularly prevalent. Jay Hickey, president of the American Horse Council, the horse industry's main lobby group, suggested in 2009 that more than half of the workers in his industry are likely undocumented. Likewise, studies have found that undocumented workers make up an estimated 28 percent of workers in landscaping. In both of these sectors, the use of contractors is commonplace, so it is not surprising that Dobbs has relied on third parties to supply the labor he needs. Vicky Moon, author of A Sunday Horse: Inside the Grand Prix Show-Jumping Circuit, explained that contracting out the care of one's horses "alleviates the time involved in coordinating the horses' care, transport, and management but it also removes the responsibility of hiring competent grooms, providing housing and meals, possibly paying Social Security taxes, health insurance and, most important, making extra sure they are legal."

Dobbs has heaped scorn on the government for using contractors that hire undocumented immigrants. On CNN in 2007, he called private firms that oppose verification requirements for their contractors' employees "ridiculous." Yet interviews with several such employees show that Dobbs has been far from vigilant about the status of workers laboring on his own properties.

"I Looked After Dobbs's Horses While I Was Illegal"

This year, Hillary Dobbs became the youngest-ever horse show rider to win $1 million in prize money. While all horses require extensive maintenance, the labor entailed in the upkeep of competition horses like the ones ridden by "Dobbs's million dollar baby" (as the New York Post dubbed Hillary) is particularly strenuous.

Every November, all five of The Dobbs Group's show-jumping horses must be transported from their summer stables in Vermont to their winter stables in Wellington, Florida. The workers are transported to the tropics too, returning to New England with the horses in April. They ride in trucks each way alongside their expensive equestrian charges, tending to the horses' needs throughout the thirty-two-hour journey. Their return to Vermont marks the start of a new annual circuit of horse shows—an exhausting schedule during the spring, summer and fall months that entails constant travel between their Vermont base and horse shows around the country. At these shows, it is not unusual for the grooms who care for Dobbs's horses to rise in the middle of the night or in the predawn hours to clean, brush and prepare the horses for a training session or early morning competition.

For years, undocumented immigrants from Mexico have been relied upon to meet these labor demands.

A 36-year-old Mexican immigrant I'll call Marco Salinas was working with a group of horses in a stable at the bustling Wellington Winter Equestrian Festival when I approached him for an interview. (Fearing deportation or job loss, Salinas, like the other workers interviewed for this story, asked that neither his real name nor the name of his employer be used.) Several hours later, when he finished his ten-hour workday, Salinas recounted how he had come to the United States five years ago for a job. Seated on an outdoor bench near the stable, the Mexico City native told the story of how he had crossed the Yuma Desert on foot, from the Mexican city of San Luis Río Colorado and into the United States, eluding the border patrol.

Salinas said he braved the journey for one reason—because he had the promise of a job on the other end. An old friend of Salinas's worked as a groom with some of the horses owned by Dobbs, and he had sent word that Salinas could be hired on as a groom at the Vermont stable contracted to care for the Dobbs Group horses.

Salinas got the job, he said, and worked at it for more than two years without documents until he was finally able to obtain a guest-worker visa designed for seasonal foreign workers (the same kind of visa denounced as a form of "indentured servitude" on Dobbs's CNN show).

I asked Salinas, still clad in his work clothes—a polo shirt and jeans—about Dobbs, the owner of the horses he cared for. But the father of three simply flashed a disarming grin, let out an easygoing laugh and politely declined to comment.

In his work as a groom for Dobbs's horses, Salinas said he regularly started at 5 am and did not get off until after 6 in the evening. According to Pedro Gomez, another undocumented worker, who cared for Dobbs Group horses in Vermont and Florida, the workday during horse shows like the three-month-long Wellington Winter Equestrian Festival was typically twelve hours or longer.

Continues: http://www.thenation.com/article/155209/lou-dobbs-american-hypocrite

barryr
10-11-2010, 01:30 PM
LOL, now that Dobbs isn't on CNN and not considered in with the lefty crowd, he is fair game. Any chance this story comes out if still at CNN and buddies with the left? Yeah, right LOL

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-11-2010, 01:46 PM
LOL, now that Dobbs isn't on CNN and not considered in with the lefty crowd, he is fair game. Any chance this story comes out if still at CNN and buddies with the left? Yeah, right LOL

I'm sure ol' Lou appreciates your efforts to cover his flank here.

Nice to know you can overlook the whole illegal immigrant thing without being inconsistent.




Oh wait...

ghwk
10-11-2010, 02:29 PM
So is anyone on this board actually FOR illegal immigration?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-11-2010, 02:31 PM
So is anyone on this board actually FOR illegal immigration?

The entire "lefty crowd," according to barryr.

DivineBronco
10-15-2010, 09:17 PM
LOL, now that Dobbs isn't on CNN and not considered in with the lefty crowd, he is fair game. Any chance this story comes out if still at CNN and buddies with the left? Yeah, right LOL

you are going into gaff territory here mister cu and cu

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-16-2010, 12:38 AM
you are going into gaff territory here mister cu and cu

He's learned from the best...

http://www.bartcop.com/beck-ogigo.jpg

Jay3
10-16-2010, 04:37 AM
If you do any hiring at all for outdoor work, construction work, or generally low wage work, you are at risk at any time for an expose taking you down for hiring illegals.

Our labor markets are flooded with illegals, the number of illegals is staggering, far higher than the media is willing to report (so as not to inflame support for doing something about it).

And if you try to check on the status of a worker, you'll get rebuffed. There is no, repeat, no government agency you can call and say "I have suspicions that this person is an illegal alien." They will tell you're not supposed to be checking up.

Spider
10-16-2010, 06:49 AM
LOL, now that Dobbs isn't on CNN and not considered in with the lefty crowd, he is fair game. Any chance this story comes out if still at CNN and buddies with the left? Yeah, right LOL

Post like this , makes me support abortion

Spider
10-16-2010, 06:51 AM
If you do any hiring at all for outdoor work, construction work, or generally low wage work, you are at risk at any time for an expose taking you down for hiring illegals.

Our labor markets are flooded with illegals, the number of illegals is staggering, far higher than the media is willing to report (so as not to inflame support for doing something about it).

And if you try to check on the status of a worker, you'll get rebuffed. There is no, repeat, no government agency you can call and say "I have suspicions that this person is an illegal alien." They will tell you're not supposed to be checking up.

Yes there is , you have to do it anonymously......... a farmer in Brighton colo back in the late 70's would hire illegals , and when it came time to pay , he turned himself in anonymously and have them deported and hire a new bunch , do it again when pay day came

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-16-2010, 02:59 PM
There is no, repeat, no government agency you can call and say "I have suspicions that this person is an illegal alien." They will tell you're not supposed to be checking up.

:bs:

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is the federal agency tasked with receiving and investigating reports of undocumented immigrants.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5933291_report-undocumented-immigrants.html

orinjkrush
10-16-2010, 06:30 PM
ICE is underfunded and undermanned for their mission.
but hey, we have a don't ask, don't tell society going on here...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-16-2010, 11:22 PM
ICE is underfunded and undermanned for their mission.

But he claimed there was no government agency you could call to report illegals.


...but hey, we have a don't ask, don't tell society going on here...

That's how the cheap labor conservatives who profit most from illegal immigration want to keep it.

frerottenextelway
10-18-2010, 03:49 PM
So is anyone on this board actually FOR illegal immigration?

Nope. I agree with Sharon Angle, we need to build a wall to keep the Asians from invading us from Canada.

chadta
10-18-2010, 03:55 PM
Yes there is , you have to do it anonymously......... a farmer in Brighton colo back in the late 70's would hire illegals , and when it came time to pay , he turned himself in anonymously and have them deported and hire a new bunch , do it again when pay day came


that was likely the last time any illegals were deported

chadta
10-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Nope. I agree with Sharon Angle, we need to build a wall to keep the Asians from invading us from Canada.

i agree to stop letting our asians invade you guys if you stop sending your left wing turn coats up here, they are actually trying to claim refugee status, from the usa, they had no problem taking the armys money, but now that they are going to be sent to the gulf they are suddenly peace loving folk.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-18-2010, 04:57 PM
...if you stop sending your left wing turn coats up here....

If fascists like you had their way, the Nuremberg Precedents would have never been established.

You are all about obedience without content.