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Rulon Velvet Jones
10-28-2009, 11:56 AM
By Jeremy Green
Scouts Inc.
Denver at Baltimore
When: 1:00 PM ET
Watch: CBS
More scouting reports: Week 8
Scouts Inc. Position Advantage

QB: BALT (Ooooooo-k?)
RB: BALT
WR: DEN
OL: DEN
DL: BALT
LB: BALT
DB: DEN
ST: DEN
Coach: BALT (Sure.)


After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week's Broncos-Ravens matchup.


1. Denver RB Knowshon Moreno: Although Denver has had some success running the ball between the tackles, it has yet to face a run defense as stout as the Ravens' up the middle. Look for Denver to adjust this week by trying to run the ball wide and versus a Ravens defense that has been out of position often this season.

2. Denver blitz packages: Denver has adjusted very well to its new 3-4 scheme. Look for Denver to bring a lot of inside blitz pressure to force QB Joe Flacco to get outside of the pocket. The Broncos don't want Flacco to be able to step into his throws in the middle of the pocket.

3. Ravens RB Ray Rice: Rice is one of the most underrated running backs in the NFL. In Week 6, he took the game over and almost led the Ravens to a win in Minnesota. He needs more touches, though. Although Flacco has played excellent football, the Ravens are suffering from an identity crisis right now as they have gotten away from the running game far too often in recent weeks.

4. Baltimore must be more disciplined on defense: Although they have always had a great and aggressive defense, the Ravens have become a little undisciplined. When you watch them on film, there are far too many guys freelancing at the same time. Even their superstar players, MLB Ray Lewis and FS Ed Reed, have often found themselves out of position in recent weeks. The Ravens have to play aggressive but sound football versus a Broncos offense that has not beaten itself during this 6-0 start.

5. Matchup to watch: Denver QB Kyle Orton vs. Reed: It is hard to say this because he is a great player, but in all honesty, Reed has not played very well this season. He is often out of position, overrunning plays and freelancing too often. Orton has been as good as any QB in the NFL in taking care of the football. Expect Orton to try to throw off Reed with subtle pump-fakes and deceptive looks.

6. Baltimore's offensive line must play well: The Ravens could leaveg TE Todd Heap or Rice in to help block, but both players are major parts of the passing game. The Ravens' front five must handle the blitz pressure or the Ravens will have to make adjustments that could inhibit their ability to move the ball through the air.

7. Denver WR Eddie Royal must step up in the slot: Royal has made plays on special teams, but the Broncos need from him in the passing game. He has a mismatch this week against Ravens CB Corey Ivy, who has been picked on often this season. Look for Royal to be a frequent third-down target playing out of the slot.

8. Baltimore WR Mark Clayton must be more consistent: As mentioned earlier, the Ravens' offense might be hamstrung this week by needing more block protection from Heap and Rice. This will put a lot of pressure on WR Derrick Mason, the Ravens' No. 1 one target who will likely be shadowed by CB Champ Bailey, as well as Clayton to step up and make plays.

9. Orton's decision-making: Orton has thrown only one interception in six games. He runs Denver's offense well and understands when to throw the ball out of bounds. This will be the best defense he has faced to date and the Ravens will show him a lot of different looks. If Orton can play with the same poise and leadership he has shown in the first six games, the Broncos have a chance to extend their winning streak.

10. Baltimore LT Michael Oher vs. Denver DE Elvis Dumervil: Oher had a tough time trying to block the Vikings' Jared Allen. He is an excellent young tackle but has trouble at times protecting the edge versus speed, and Dumervil is as quick off the edge as any pass-rusher in the NFL. It should be a great matchup.


Prediction
Denver 17
Baltimore 20

Rohirrim
10-28-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm looking for some nice, fat INTs for our CBs this week. ;D

Marshall Dumervil
10-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Maybe we get lucky and the Baltimore D does way too much freelancing this week.

Whatever that is.

outdoor_miner
10-28-2009, 12:12 PM
Man - these all read exactly the same week in and week out. And - I'm almost positive that #10 each of the last 4 weeks has been Dumervil vs. Adams, Light, McNeil, and now Oher. I really think I could churn these out.

Also - they seem to pick Denver to lose by 3 every week. I like it. :afro:

gyldenlove
10-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Champ will take one to the house for 6 if he is targeted directly more than 3 times this week. Take that to the bank, he is back and he is just itching to kick some ass.

I am expecting an epic hitting contest between DJ Williams and Brian Dawkins and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. This could get really bloody out there, two of the best defensive players ever and people who enjoy sending people into the middle of next week going head to head. This is going to be intense.

BroncoFanatic
10-28-2009, 12:18 PM
So...

The Baltimore D is undisciplined
Reed has been out of position a lot
Orton has been as good as any QB in the NFL in taking care of the football
Baltimore's O line may need help from TE and/or RB to pass block
Royal on Ivy is a mismatch
Clayton has been inconsistent
Orton is playing with poise and leadership
Baltimore's LT has a tough time with speed rushers

Yet, he picks Baltimore to win...

Rubbish

Dukes
10-28-2009, 12:19 PM
We're ****ed

delany
10-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Rice catching out of the backfield is my biggest concern with that O.

It would be nice to stop the big plays like Dallas and the Chargers had in the 1st half out in the flat.

Tombstone RJ
10-28-2009, 12:36 PM
Same stuff, different day...

Brewer
10-28-2009, 12:40 PM
Oh, this one's easy: Baltimore wins 6,482 to 9. Scouts Stinkorporated knows their stuff.

SonOfLe-loLang
10-28-2009, 12:41 PM
Yeah, rice is the main guy that scares me because of his tackle breaking ability. We have let some runners get to the second level, but our tackling at that point has been awesome. Hopefully we can keep it up.

BroncoDoug
10-28-2009, 01:36 PM
So...

The Baltimore D is undisciplined
Reed has been out of position a lot
Orton has been as good as any QB in the NFL in taking care of the football
Baltimore's O line may need help from TE and/or RB to pass block
Royal on Ivy is a mismatch
Clayton has been inconsistent
Orton is playing with poise and leadership
Baltimore's LT has a tough time with speed rushers

Yet, he picks Baltimore to win...

Rubbish

look who wrote the writeup....Jermey Green... He has some unfounded hate for the Broncos like I've never seen. He still thinks Tennessee is better then Denver...

gtown
10-28-2009, 02:03 PM
Way to go out on a limb there Scouts Inc. Seriously 20-17? Giving the home team the usual three points? This says nothing of significance.

Doggcow
10-28-2009, 02:10 PM
I think this is the week Orton goes bat**** crazy and passes for like 3-400 yards

epicSocialism4tw
10-28-2009, 02:20 PM
Champ will take one to the house for 6 if he is targeted directly more than 3 times this week. Take that to the bank, he is back and he is just itching to kick some ass.

I am expecting an epic hitting contest between DJ Williams and Brian Dawkins and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. This could get really bloody out there, two of the best defensive players ever and people who enjoy sending people into the middle of next week going head to head. This is going to be intense.

I think that Champ will get a pick this week. Flacco is young and hasnt played against the Great One yet. He'll "test" Champ and Champ will do what he always does...make plays. Champ is due for a pick.

I expect the Broncos to be able to apply pressure, and I expect Flacco to make mistakes.

If the Broncos generate turnovers and keep the ball well on offense, this game will end up a Broncos victory by 10 points or more.

The Ravens are overrated and these guys (scouts) havent seen what the Broncos really are yet. They havent understood what makes this team win. What they are missing is that this is possibly the mentally toughest team in the league, and that translates to discipline and toughness even on the road in hostile environments. They look at the Ravens and they think "toughness', but the Broncos are superior in that respect. So far, this is looking like the mentally toughest Broncos team I have ever seen. These guys are rough.

If the Broncos can keep from turning the ball over, they'll win this game.

BroncoDoug
10-28-2009, 02:59 PM
that is the key mcskillet...turnovers, baltimore thrives off turn overs. McD will have them ready to play

gunns
10-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Man - these all read exactly the same week in and week out. And - I'm almost positive that #10 each of the last 4 weeks has been Dumervil vs. Adams, Light, McNeil, and now Oher. I really think I could churn these out.

Also - they seem to pick Denver to lose by 3 every week. I like it. :afro:


Me too. I was worried when SoCal came back and the fact that Raven fans are talking about the Broncos with respect. This has made me feel much better.

TheChamp24
10-28-2009, 03:56 PM
Same stuff, different day...

When have we been predicted to win a game? Cleveland? Oakland? All I remember is every week seeing how we are supposed to lose, with maybe having an "upset" win.

Blart
10-28-2009, 04:05 PM
I was worried about this week until I read Scouts INC. Broncos are the underdogs, seems like everything is normal

Bronco Warrior
10-28-2009, 05:05 PM
Royal will shred these weak corners and play action will suck in Reed and OVer the hill Ray Gay. The guy they never mentioned............

Jerry Curl
10-28-2009, 05:12 PM
Unless Rice goes HUGE in both rushing/receiving I don't see any way we lose this game.

Doggcow
10-28-2009, 05:26 PM
Newsflash Scouts.... The Broncos are 6-0, the Ravens are 3-3...

I love how we get picked against every week so someone will finally get one right and chest thump the **** out of themselves if they ever end up right

Mediator12
10-28-2009, 05:59 PM
The analysis for once is absolutely correct.

The problem is solely with the prediction. It reads exactly like the SD game where emotion is supposed to override ability. One thing about consistent teams playing desperate teams, it rarely favors the desperate team.....

That said, it sure does read like a formulaic effort versus any new insights.

Broncos4Life
10-28-2009, 08:32 PM
The analysis for once is absolutely correct.

The problem is solely with the prediction. It reads exactly like the SD game where emotion is supposed to override ability. One thing about consistent teams playing desperate teams, it rarely favors the desperate team.....

That said, it sure does read like a formulaic effort versus any new insights.

These scout reports read almost the same every week. Just replace the names and its the same thing over and over again. You could also use that same score every week. 20-17. And "word" on that desparate team comment. They will be playing so desparate that our guys will be consistant and make plenty of plays

ZONA
10-28-2009, 09:09 PM
All I know is if we can win this game, I'm thinking at least one homefield game in the playoffs is around the corner.

lex
10-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Unless Rice goes HUGE in both rushing/receiving I don't see any way we lose this game.

Thats a good call on Rice but Im also worried about Ed Reed making plays. Orton relies immensely on presnap reads. Ed Reed being a savvy guy who also studies a lot of film might turn this against Orton. At least its something Im a little concerned with.

azbroncfan
10-29-2009, 12:20 AM
Flacco does the Romo passing where he looks to his number 1 read then straight to checkdown. I expect to see DJ manned up on Rice.

Needa Pass Rush
10-29-2009, 12:48 AM
I'll be sitting on the 50 with my boys for this game. The Bronx better bring the "A" game!

v2micca
10-29-2009, 07:40 AM
I'll be in the endzone for this game with my Sister and her Husband. Hoping that the Broncos will make it a good weekend.

Hulamau
10-29-2009, 01:40 PM
I think this is the week Orton goes bat**** crazy and passes for like 3-400 yards

I was thinking the same thing ... A 4 TD game for Kyle and a couple ground scores between Knowshon and Bucky topped off with a pick six by Champ or Alphonso who will likely be playing for Jack MFW if his head is still clearing.

Once of these games the offense is going to start catching fire early and then look out! No time like Sunday to start, Eh?!

Lets KICK some R-Bird AZZZ! :kiss:

SonOfLe-loLang
10-29-2009, 02:10 PM
Thats a good call on Rice but Im also worried about Ed Reed making plays. Orton relies immensely on presnap reads. Ed Reed being a savvy guy who also studies a lot of film might turn this against Orton. At least its something Im a little concerned with.

Ed Reed is more of a freelancer, he's not a film buff who is always in the right place at the right time. He's an athlete that makes plays

Bronco Boy
10-29-2009, 02:13 PM
I'm starting to doubt that these people are actually scouts!

cutthemdown
10-29-2009, 02:17 PM
Newsflash Scouts.... The Broncos are 6-0, the Ravens are 3-3...

I love how we get picked against every week so someone will finally get one right and chest thump the **** out of themselves if they ever end up right

What was funnier is when pundits pick us as the upset of the weak when we aren't even favored. That happened on NFL Network twice.

All it takes is a little ammo each game and the media is supplying Dawkins with all he needs.

cutthemdown
10-29-2009, 02:21 PM
Flacco does the Romo passing where he looks to his number 1 read then straight to checkdown. I expect to see DJ manned up on Rice.

I also see plays just designed to go to the RB from the start. A shadow of Rice by DJ and Woodyard might not be a bad idea on 3rd downs.