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Beantown Bronco
06-29-2010, 02:00 PM
If Lebron really wants to take it to another level, then theres only one thing to do.


Go sign with the Celtics, and during the presser when the Celtics announce him as theirs, talk trash about Kobe and the Lakers. Real trash.


This would blow up the NBA to mega status like Bird and Magic did.

The top rivalry in sports, with the two best players pitted against one another.....in which they are talking smack.

No different than two boxers talking spank against one another before a fight. Two GOOD boxers that is.



The Bird/Magic rivalry galvanized the NBA for a decade and beyond. While Kobe/Lebron as Lakers/Celtics rivals would not have the race factor mixed in, it would still generate the interest to mega levels imo.

Kobe: Lebron couldnt hold my jockstrap.

Lebron: What jockstrap? I heard he wears panties.


The Celtics and Lakers of the eighties literally fought on the floor numerous times.


Nothing available would make the NBA nor Lebron bigger, should he show himself able to win a title agains the Lakers and Kobe.

This is quite possibly the only way I would ever become a full-time invested fan of the NBA again. This would be epic. AND it goes to something I was discussing with a local Celtic fan friend the other day.....it makes zero sense to either of us why the C's are not even in the discussion for his services. Most of the talent is getting very old and they can easily free up the necessary money to sign him. It's kind of mystifying really.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-30-2010, 07:35 AM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-30-2010, 07:37 AM
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24champ
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
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I love the ending of that vid. Ha!

ZONA
06-30-2010, 12:24 PM
http://gochicagocard.com/blog/files/2008/01/chicago-pizza.jpg

RhymesayersDU
06-30-2010, 05:00 PM
Well, we are hours from free agency. Should be exciting.

RhymesayersDU
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Richard Jefferson opted out of a $15 million dollar year next year.

I mean.. I understand guys want contracts now with the CBA issues... But yikes, I don't know how much anybody is going to give him at this point. Perhaps a team that gets locked out of the top guys will throw him some money.

OBF1
06-30-2010, 05:13 PM
Kobe to LaBron : 5 rings biotch

LaBron: It does not matter what LaBron has to say.

RhymesayersDU
06-30-2010, 05:17 PM
Hilarious.

Requiem
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
All these great names and it don't even matter cause the Magic ain't gettin' one of 'em.

azbroncfan
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
Nugget fans will find out real quick how long Melo is going to be around.

RhymesayersDU
06-30-2010, 06:47 PM
Nugget fans will find out real quick how long Melo is going to be around.

That's going to be a fascinating situation.

In theory I'm not opposed to a trade, depending on value. Problem is, I doubt we can get full value so I'd really rather them work out a 3-year extension.

24champ
06-30-2010, 07:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/carmelo-anthony-and-lala_n_631637.html#s108696

Melo' has a nice pad.

Anyway, I hope 'melo goes to the Eastern Conference. Just leaves the Lakers to worry about the OKC Thunder and Durant who are going to be the #2 team behind the Lakers.

ZONA
06-30-2010, 10:41 PM
http://www.orgs.bucknell.edu/res_halls/RTK/KRSS/K3/ice-cream-cones.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-02-2010, 11:39 PM
Steve Blake to accept four-year deal with Lakers

-The Los Angeles Lakers did not wait long to replace free agent guard Jordan Farmar, reaching into their fellow Staples Center occupants' locker room to poach veteran guard Steve Blake from the Clippers. The two sides have agreed on a four-year, $16 million deal, Blake's agent confirmed, which is fully guaranteed with no options for either side.

Blake will almost certainly take Farmar's place next season backing up Derek Fisher, who is also a free agent but is expected to re-sign with the two-time defending champions. The Lakers didn't place a qualifying offer on Farmar before the start of the free agent period, making him an unrestricted free agent. Blake also had interest from the Knicks and other teams but the opportunity to play for the Lakers was too enticing.
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The 30-year-old Blake has played for five NBA teams since being drafted in the first round in 2003 by the Washington Wizards, with career averages of 7.5 points and 4.3 assists per game. He started last season in Portland, where he started for most of the first half of the season for the Trail Blazers, but the injury-riddled Blazers, desperate for a big man after season-ending injuries to Greg Oden and Joel Pryzbilla, dealt Blake at the trade deadline to the Clippers along with forward Travis Outlaw for center Marcus Camby.

Blake first disclosed the deal Friday afternoon during an interview on Portland radio station KXTG-FM.

http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency//?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Los Broncos
07-03-2010, 08:04 AM
I like Blake he is a solid player, he should do good with the Lakers.

RhymesayersDU
07-03-2010, 08:23 AM
Blake is a ridiculously good signing for the Lakers. It will fly under the radar but major upgrade at point for thdm.

Jason in LA
07-03-2010, 10:17 AM
Lakers sign Steve Blake!

http://www.sell-sport.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/xin_6b5d938e27c44e0bb7b43ccfd291228e_ty23.jpg

Oh wait, wrong sport. ;D

oubronco
07-03-2010, 10:22 AM
Paul Pierce (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/paul-pierce/71124) will remain in Boston.


LeBron James heads the list of free agents now on the open markAccording to a source close to the situation, Boston’s captain has agreed to a four-year, $61 million deal to remain with the Celtics (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/team/boston-celtics/71076).

All four years are guaranteed.
Pierce decided to opt out of his contract and become a free agent, but never truly explored the open market.
"It was a smart business decision,” said one source.
Pierce, 32, was set to make $21.5 million next season, but with the uncertainty regarding the new Collective Bargaining Agreement and expected changes within the salary structure, Pierce opted out and wanted a long-term deal.
The deal was first reported by the Boston Herald.
The new contract won’t be official until July 7 under NBA rules.
Now that Pierce and coach Doc Rivers are back in the fold, Celtics boss Danny Ainge will set his sights on trying to bring Ray Allen (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/ray-allen/71300) back and also landing a mid-level free agent to make another run at an NBA title.
Pierce averaged 18.3 points, 4.4 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game last season and has played his entire 12-year career in Boston.

oubronco
07-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Amar’e Stoudemire’s free-agency stint could be a short one.

A source familiar with the negotiations said that Stoudemire and the New York Knicks are working on a maximum level, five-year contract that is expected to be worth about $100 million. Barring any last-minute changes or other offers, Stoudemire and agent Happy Walters could agree to that deal as soon as today.

Stoudemire’s career with the Suns closed on Friday with the news that Phoenix had agreed with free agent forward Hakim Warrick on a four-year deal. If Stoudemire agrees to this deal with New York, he will be reunited with Mike D’Antoni, who coached the power forward for 4 seasons in Phoenix.

After D’Antoni left for New York following the 2007-2008 season, Stoudemire openly criticized D'Antoni's commitment to defense, even when his own defensive effort and prowess were being called into question by his team and the Phoenix media. D’Antoni admitted recently that he was never able to reach Stoudemire to secure a commitment to better defense in his years in Phoenix. The Knicks coach lauded current Suns coach Alvin Gentry for accomplishing that feat last season.

It’s unclear what the status of the D’Antoni-Stoudemire relationship is today, although D’Antoni still talks highly of Stoudemire’s abilities and has an affable, low-key personality to which players generally respond.

Stoudemire excelled in D'Antoni's seven-seconds-or-less offensive system, making a reunion an attractive option. Stoudemire also could serve as leverage as the Knicks attempt to woo marquee free agents LeBron James and Dwyane Wade. Or Stoudemire could be Plan B for the Knicks if they believe this season’s marquee three free agents are headed elsewhere.

The Knicks have more salary cap space than any team in the NBA, allowing them to sign two maximum-level free agents.

Stoudemire met with Miami Heat President Pat Riley and other Heat representatives on Wednesday night, moments after the free agency period opened, but it’s unclear whether the Heat made an offer while they await decisions from James, Wade and Chris Bosh, who is believed to be their priority at power forward.

Stoudemire and Walters were due to visit the Knicks on Monday in New York, but Stoudemire also talked to D’Antoni on Wednesday night at the Knicks’ request. He also had several other meetings in the works, including one with the Chicago Bulls.

Stoudemire had insisted on a five-year deal since the start of free-agency. The Suns apparently made a last-ditch offer of five years late Thursday, but only the first three years were fully guaranteed while the latter two included stipulations.

With Frye and Warrick, the Suns will lack the interior game that Stoudemire gave them. If the Suns struggle – and even if they don’t – this move will likely be viewed as a cost-saving measure by Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver. It will also call into question his ability to manage free-agent negotiations without a general manager after GM Steve Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin officially stepped down on Wednesday.

ohiobronco2
07-03-2010, 11:38 AM
Lakers sign Steve Blake!

http://www.sell-sport.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/xin_6b5d938e27c44e0bb7b43ccfd291228e_ty23.jpg

Oh wait, wrong sport. ;D

:rofl: I was waiting for somebody to post it.

ZONA
07-03-2010, 01:12 PM
Anybody who thinks Blake is a major improvement over Farmar is an idiot. I've watched Blake play alot and he's got his flaws also. Farmer is younger and more athletic and even though Blake might shoot a tad better, Blake's defense is attrocious.

And I heard on the radio the Lakers are not playing nice with Fisher. Lakers trying to low ball him right now.


I do think Amare and James both end up in NY, just a hunch.

Jason in LA
07-03-2010, 10:39 PM
Don't get carried away Zona. Nobody is thinking that Blake is going to be the difference between the Lakers winning a title or not. And replacing Farmar with Blake isn't going to hurt their chances at a 3rd title. At this point the only thing missing is Fisher. Hopefully they get that taken care of soon.

ZONA
07-04-2010, 12:49 AM
Don't get carried away Zona. Nobody is thinking that Blake is going to be the difference between the Lakers winning a title or not. And replacing Farmar with Blake isn't going to hurt their chances at a 3rd title. At this point the only thing missing is Fisher. Hopefully they get that taken care of soon.

Even Fisher isn't such a big deal anymore, at least not nearly as big as say 5 years ago when he played a much bigger role. He hit a few good shots when the Lakers needed them but Gasol and Kobe carried that team. The Lakers could dump Farmar and pick up Blake, and as you say, it's not really that big of a deal. Neither guy is going to do much besides spell the starter for a few minutes here and there. They could even lose Fisher and pick up another guard and I still don't think that changes their team much. The Lakers are all about Kobe and the front court.

Killericon
07-04-2010, 01:06 AM
Yeesh. Wake me up when something exciting happens.

ZONA
07-04-2010, 07:32 PM
Was just thinking about the Spurs today. With Duncan getting very old and Parker about to leave, a great dynasty might be getting ready to realize they are past their glory run. Superstars of Duncan's ability don't come around often and when he finally hangs it up, he won't be easily replaced.

Killericon
07-04-2010, 09:30 PM
Was just thinking about the Spurs today. With Duncan getting very old and Parker about to leave, a great dynasty might be getting ready to realize they are past their glory run. Superstars of Duncan's ability don't come around often and when he finally hangs it up, he won't be easily replaced.

True, but Ginobli and Parker will keep them competitive for a while.

ZONA
07-04-2010, 09:51 PM
True, but Ginobli and Parker will keep them competitive for a while.

Well Ginboli is also a UFA so who knows if he's staying. I think Parker already said he would go to NY next year if Amare goes there. If James and Amare end up in NY, I don't see how Parker could refuse going there. Who knows, maybe he might stay.

Killericon
07-14-2010, 03:22 PM
It's official. (http://phoenix.fanster.com/2010/07/14/video-hedo-turkoglu-lookalike-reacts-trade-toronto-raptors-phoenix-suns/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fanster-suns+%28Fanster+-+Phoenix+Suns%29)

Maximus
07-14-2010, 06:22 PM
Even Fisher isn't such a big deal anymore, at least not nearly as big as say 5 years ago when he played a much bigger role. He hit a few good shots when the Lakers needed them but Gasol and Kobe carried that team. The Lakers could dump Farmar and pick up Blake, and as you say, it's not really that big of a deal. Neither guy is going to do much besides spell the starter for a few minutes here and there. They could even lose Fisher and pick up another guard and I still don't think that changes their team much. The Lakers are all about Kobe and the front court.

It's apparent that you're discounting the effect that Fisher has on the team as a whole. When fish is on the floor our offense is run correctly and even though he is a step slow on defense and picks up useless fouls at times... He does help to direct defensive assignments. On the other hand... according to Kobe, Fish is the voice of reason. Chemistry and Defense win Championships!

Tombstone RJ
07-14-2010, 06:42 PM
Was just thinking about the Spurs today. With Duncan getting very old and Parker about to leave, a great dynasty might be getting ready to realize they are past their glory run. Superstars of Duncan's ability don't come around often and when he finally hangs it up, he won't be easily replaced.

Tim Duncan should have been a Nugget... damn lotto system... seriously he should have been a Nugget.

Jason in LA
07-14-2010, 09:20 PM
I don't think Fisher would have meant much to the Heat, or any other team, but for the Lakers he means a lot. It's leadership, and he's earned that in the Lakers locker room. I don't think he'd get that kind of respect around players that don't know him like that. It would have been a big loss for the Lakers if he signed with the Heat, but I don't think it would have been a big gain for the Heat.

TonyR
07-25-2010, 11:15 AM
Some good shots at Kobe in Simmons' Friday mailbag:


Q: LeBron made announcement at 6:27 pm PT. Surprised he didn't do it at 6:24 so he'd be guaranteed to be Finals MVP next year.
-- Ryan, Indianapolis

SG: (Shhhhhhhhhhh.)

Q: For my 24th birthday, my roommates bet me I couldn't take 24 shots. They were right and I only made it 6 shots before I blew chunks. Thankfully, my roommate is a Lakers fan and he still named me MVP of my birthday.
-- Dan, Davis, Calif.

SG: (Shhhhhhhhh no talking in the dugout.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100722/mailbag1

Boobs McGee
07-25-2010, 12:46 PM
Don't get carried away Zona. Nobody is thinking that Blake is going to be the difference between the Lakers winning a title or not. And replacing Farmar with Blake isn't going to hurt their chances at a 3rd title. At this point the only thing missing is Fisher. Hopefully they get that taken care of soon.

I was under the impression that brown was going to be seeing alot more playing time next year...IF we get the deal done. All the best to farmar of course, hopefully he finds more of a niche outside the triangle. I've always thought he would excel here, but he and the fo thought differently.

Majik
07-25-2010, 07:01 PM
LeBron Advised Paul To Request Trade

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68343/20100725/lebron_advised_paul_to_request_trade/


However, Windhorst added that James is urging Paul to stay in the Western Conference to make for a better rivalry.


AKA: don't join Dwight in Orlando because then you guys would be better than us.

24champ
07-26-2010, 01:46 PM
I was under the impression that brown was going to be seeing alot more playing time next year...IF we get the deal done. All the best to farmar of course, hopefully he finds more of a niche outside the triangle. I've always thought he would excel here, but he and the fo thought differently.

Expendable parts really, Mitch did a great job seeing that the the bench is certainly improved on paper with the additions of Barnes, Ratliff, Blake, Ebanks, Caracter to go along with Odom, Walton (assuming his back holds up), and hopefully Brown.

Inkana7
07-29-2010, 12:48 AM
Found this the other day:

Dan (Set to "Stan" by Eminem)

Dear Bron, I wrote but you still ain't callin
I left my cell, my pager, and the team number at the bottom
I sent two contract offers in autumn, you must not-a got them
There probably was a problem with Cleveland or something
Sometimes the city is poor 'cause of no funding or something
but anyways; **** it, what's been up? Man how's your mother?
Is it a coincidence shes pregnant and Delonte is about to be a father?
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Boobie
I saw the eastern conference game against the C's i'm sorry
I never believed the rumors of you quitting on me
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even went to your high schools games back and thought you were the man
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the dunks you always pull off, that ish is phat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Dan

Chorus: Dan
My team's gone bad I'm wondering why I'm
still in the league at all
The power rankings clog up my windows
we getting lottery picks after all
And even if I could, Lebron would stay
put your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that you did us so bad
you did us so bad...

Dear Mister-I'm-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Owner,
this'll be the last contract I ever send your ass
It's been six days and still no word - I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two contracts;
I wrote the salary on 'em perfect
So this is my letter I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Bron, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know greatest player of all time? Michael Jordan?
The one who would never sign with other stars to keep the league non boring?
and all I wanted was a lousy letter, NOW WE REBUILDING
I hope you know I ripped YOUR BILLBOARD DOWN FROM CLEVELAND'S ONLY TALL BUILDING
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you lose I hope you can't sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can't BREATHE without me
See Bron; {*screaming*}
Shut up *****! I'm trying to talk!
Hey Bron, that's Mo Williams screamin in the trunk
but I didn't trade him, He's staying with us, see he ain't like you
cause if he leaves, we will suffer more, and then we'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost preseason now
Oh ****, I forgot, how am I supposed to send this **** out?

Inkana7
07-29-2010, 12:52 AM
It's apparent that you're discounting the effect that Fisher has on the team as a whole. When fish is on the floor our offense is run correctly and even though he is a step slow on defense and picks up useless fouls at times... He does help to direct defensive assignments. On the other hand... according to Kobe, Fish is the voice of reason. Chemistry and Defense win Championships!

That and Fisher always goes like 1-9 in a game, with his one field goal being a 3 with a minute to go. ****ing annoying as all hell.

worm
07-29-2010, 06:46 AM
That and Fisher always goes like 1-9 in a game, with his one field goal being a 3 with a minute to go. ****ing annoying as all hell.

Nice to see you posting on this thread again Ink. I had you on suicide watch during "The Decision'.

ohiobronco2
07-29-2010, 07:30 AM
Attention Whore?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5418788

CLEVELAND -- A fan wearing a Miami Heat jersey of LeBron James drew the ire of the crowd at a Cleveland Indians game and was escorted out of the ballpark.

Fans in the left-field bleachers chanted obscenities and pointed at the man Wednesday night during the sixth inning of the game between the Indians and New York Yankees.

Hundreds of fans joined in before security led the man out of Progressive Field.

As he left, some fans followed him toward the gate with more derisive chants. Various media reports indicated he was with a female companion, and that fans also threw debris at them.

The man was shown showing off his No. 6 jersey to the crowd as he walked down the steps.

James' recent departure from the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Heat caused a lot of anger in the city.

Many fans were near the left-field foul pole in hopes of catching the 600th home run ball by Alex Rodriguez.

gunns
07-29-2010, 11:47 AM
Attention Whore?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5418788

CLEVELAND -- A fan wearing a Miami Heat jersey of LeBron James drew the ire of the crowd at a Cleveland Indians game and was escorted out of the ballpark.

Fans in the left-field bleachers chanted obscenities and pointed at the man Wednesday night during the sixth inning of the game between the Indians and New York Yankees.

Hundreds of fans joined in before security led the man out of Progressive Field.

As he left, some fans followed him toward the gate with more derisive chants. Various media reports indicated he was with a female companion, and that fans also threw debris at them.

The man was shown showing off his No. 6 jersey to the crowd as he walked down the steps.

James' recent departure from the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Heat caused a lot of anger in the city.

Many fans were near the left-field foul pole in hopes of catching the 600th home run ball by Alex Rodriguez.

I can understand the anger of the people in Cleveland...but everyone else sounds like a bunch of jealous crybabies. And the major BS handed down by Magic and Jordan, and bought by the masses, was nauseating. Too of the biggest egos and they didn't go to other teams with star players to make the game non boring??? PLEASE!

TheChamp24
07-29-2010, 12:02 PM
I can understand the anger of the people in Cleveland...but everyone else sounds like a bunch of jealous crybabies. And the major BS handed down by Magic and Jordan, and bought by the masses, was nauseating. Too of the biggest egos and they didn't go to other teams with star players to make the game non boring??? PLEASE!

To not tell the team you played for, and then announce an hour long special to be nationally broadcasted to announce your decision in front of everyone, that is what piss people off.
Also, I get what Jordan, Magic, Bird say in how they want to compete against each other to beat the best. It goes to the adage of if you can't beat them, join them.

Jason in LA
07-29-2010, 12:32 PM
I was under the impression that brown was going to be seeing alot more playing time next year...IF we get the deal done. All the best to farmar of course, hopefully he finds more of a niche outside the triangle. I've always thought he would excel here, but he and the fo thought differently.

I'm hoping that they can bring back Brown. The Lakers bench is actually looking better than last year's bench. The Lakers have a better roster than the Heat.

Inkana7
07-29-2010, 01:10 PM
I can understand the anger of the people in Cleveland...but everyone else sounds like a bunch of jealous crybabies. And the major BS handed down by Magic and Jordan, and bought by the masses, was nauseating. Too of the biggest egos and they didn't go to other teams with star players to make the game non boring??? PLEASE!

If you really did understand our anger, you wouldn't call us "jealous crybabies." He was our Jordan, our Magic, our Larry. He was the only bright spot that Northeast Ohio really had. And he left us, in a douchebag manner.

**** LeBron James.

gunns
07-29-2010, 02:07 PM
To not tell the team you played for, and then announce an hour long special to be nationally broadcasted to announce your decision in front of everyone, that is what piss people off.
Also, I get what Jordan, Magic, Bird say in how they want to compete against each other to beat the best. It goes to the adage of if you can't beat them, join them.

Oh I understand the TV thing but that's not what I hear people b****ing about. And as far as the leagues biggest egos, who are they to say they wouldn't have teamed up with the leagues stars, how boring that would have been. This adequately states how I feel about those egos:

"Magic? Didn't he have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron Scott and Michael Cooper for much of his career?

Bird? Wasn't he part of the storied Celtics' front line with Kevin McHale and Robert Parish, while also enjoying the company of Reggie Lewis, Tiny Archibald and Dennis Johnson for stretches?

Jordan? Did he tell the Bulls "no thanks" when the idea of bringing in Dennis Rodman to join him and Scottie Pippen was raised? A team that went on an epic 72-win run during their first season together? Were those three championships they won as a trio somehow tainted because, well, it just wasn't right to have that much talent in the same uniform?

Yes, we know: Bird said he wouldn't want to team with Magic; he wanted to beat Magic. Same with Jordan. But that's missing the point. Bird didn't have to team with Magic because the Celtics had All-Star talent around Bird. Both he and Magic had two members each of the NBA's 50th anniversary team as teammates (Parish, McHale, Kareem, Worthy) -- plus one 50th anniversary team member at the end of his career (Archibald) was in the mix, too. So, yeah, Magic and Bird didn't really need each other.

And Jordan? This was the same player who grew weary of carrying the Bulls to the postseason, pre-Pippen, and then complained when Pippen, Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong weren't yet mature enough to help beat the Pistons.

The plain truth is that every great player wants help. That's why Kobe Bryant, after temporarily deluding himself into thinking he could win a title without Shaquille O'Neal, gave the Lakers an ultimatum: Get me a sidekick, or else. That's why Chris Paul wants answers in New Orleans. And why LeBron finally got fed up and left Cleveland, leaving money on the table."

ohiobronco2
07-29-2010, 08:17 PM
Oh I understand the TV thing but that's not what I hear people b****ing about. And as far as the leagues biggest egos, who are they to say they wouldn't have teamed up with the leagues stars, how boring that would have been. This adequately states how I feel about those egos:

"Magic? Didn't he have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron Scott and Michael Cooper for much of his career?

Bird? Wasn't he part of the storied Celtics' front line with Kevin McHale and Robert Parish, while also enjoying the company of Reggie Lewis, Tiny Archibald and Dennis Johnson for stretches?

Jordan? Did he tell the Bulls "no thanks" when the idea of bringing in Dennis Rodman to join him and Scottie Pippen was raised? A team that went on an epic 72-win run during their first season together? Were those three championships they won as a trio somehow tainted because, well, it just wasn't right to have that much talent in the same uniform?

Yes, we know: Bird said he wouldn't want to team with Magic; he wanted to beat Magic. Same with Jordan. But that's missing the point. Bird didn't have to team with Magic because the Celtics had All-Star talent around Bird. Both he and Magic had two members each of the NBA's 50th anniversary team as teammates (Parish, McHale, Kareem, Worthy) -- plus one 50th anniversary team member at the end of his career (Archibald) was in the mix, too. So, yeah, Magic and Bird didn't really need each other.

And Jordan? This was the same player who grew weary of carrying the Bulls to the postseason, pre-Pippen, and then complained when Pippen, Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong weren't yet mature enough to help beat the Pistons.

The plain truth is that every great player wants help. That's why Kobe Bryant, after temporarily deluding himself into thinking he could win a title without Shaquille O'Neal, gave the Lakers an ultimatum: Get me a sidekick, or else. That's why Chris Paul wants answers in New Orleans. And why LeBron finally got fed up and left Cleveland, leaving money on the table."

Let's be honest here. Not too many premier free agents want to come to Cleveland. The only reason they would come here is for the opportunity to play with a guy like LeBron. Problem with this is that LeBron had his mind made up a few years ago and really wasn't trying to get other guys to come to Cleveland because he wasn't going to be here. To say that ownership wasn't trying to surround LeBron with better talent is incorrect. Look at the starting 5 from Lebron's first game and the starters for his final season (hell even look at the bench) in Cleveland and tell me the franchise didn't surround him with better talent. Who knows what the team would have been if Boozer didn't screw them over, we didn't even get compensation for his services. Did the franchise do all they could? Probably not, but they don't have the traditional of a Boston or the appeal of LA or Miami.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=231029023

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300417005

ZONA
07-29-2010, 08:50 PM
One of the reasons why I like the Heat to win it next year is with those 3 guys, they almost always will win the free throw opportunity battle. They will get to the line all day long, and then some. They have 2 guys (Wade, James) in the top 5 in FTA and Bosh is 7th. That's going to be hard for teams to deal with, for sure. Anybody who plays them can count on being in some type of foul trouble.

FTA NBA 2010

1 Kevin Durant , OKC
2 Dwight Howard , ORL
3 LeBron James , CLE
4 Dwyane Wade , MIA
5 Amar'e Stoudemire , PHX
6 Carmelo Anthony , DEN
7 Chris Bosh , TOR
8 Dirk Nowitzki , DAL
9 Corey Maggette , GSW
10 Gerald Wallace , CHA
11 Kobe Bryant , LAL
12 Chauncey Billups , DEN
13 Brook Lopez , NJN
14 Tyreke Evans , SAC
15 Zach Randolph , MEM

worm
08-05-2010, 08:56 AM
ESPN's Arash Markazi managed to attach himself to LeBron James and his crew for a night in Las Vegas and wrote of a 25-year-old living life like some sort of Caligula of the Cuyahoga.

http://deadspin.com/5598719/read-espns-spiked-story-about-lebron-among-the-naked-ladies-in-vegas?skyline=true&s=i

Maybe I would do all the same thing James apparently does if I was in his shoes.

I would like to think I would surround myself with a better inner circle.. not wear my initials ala Jamarcus Russell...and not do fake cross overs and shots all the way back to my hotel room if I was a professional bassketball player.

Too bad God given talent doesn't come with class.

Jason in LA
08-05-2010, 09:14 AM
With the Dumervil injury, I can't wait for next basketball season. It's going to be tough watching the Broncos this year.

ZONA
08-05-2010, 07:39 PM
With the Dumervil injury, I can't wait for next basketball season. It's going to be tough watching the Broncos this year.

You never know. Losing Doom hurts but overall I think the team can still possibly eek into the playoffs with 9 or 10 wins. Don't give up dude.

24champ
08-07-2010, 09:32 AM
I'm hoping that they can bring back Brown. The Lakers bench is actually looking better than last year's bench. The Lakers have a better roster than the Heat.

"It's time to go get number 3"- Shannon Brown after re-signing with the Lakers.

I think this puts the Lakers payroll at 95 million.

TonyR
08-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Sources: Carmelo Anthony likely to go
By Ric Bucher
ESPN The Magazine

All signs continue to point toward the eventual divorce between Carmelo Anthony and the Denver Nuggets.

League sources say it is now a matter of when, not if, Anthony and the Nuggets will go their separate ways.

Anthony is weighing whether to sign a three-year, $65 million extension offered by the Nuggets. His dilemma, league sources say, is what affords him the best chance of continuing his career elsewhere. Anthony could sign with Denver and convince the team to then trade him. His other option would be to not sign the extension, thereby forcing the team to move him rather than risk losing him next summer as a free agent.

During his annual basketball camp in Colorado on Saturday, Anthony said he had no timetable on when he'll decide whether to sign the extension.

In either case, "he's going to make it real clear that he's not coming back," said one league source.

But both Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke and Anthony already are well aware that they don't have a future together, sources say. That became clear to Kroenke at a reception after Anthony's July 11 nuptials to La La Vasquez in Manhattan.

A series of toasts at the wedding reception, initiated by New Orleans Hornets guard Chris Paul, suggested Anthony leave Denver for the New York Knicks. Paul suggested it playfully, one source said, but subsequent guests -- including Knicks power forward Amare Stoudemire and Anthony's brother, Robert -- made the point more forcefully.

Then Kroenke stood up to give a toast and the room was filled with an awkward silence, one wedding guest said. Kroenke tried to make light of the situation by suggesting Paul could come to Denver but that elicited no response.

While Anthony stood and applauded Kroenke when he was recognized, he apparently did nothing to discourage or dismiss the suggestions that he should leave the Nuggets.

"There were other people saying, 'We're going to get you guys together,' but it doesn't become a runaway train if Melo says something," said one source. "Maybe he didn't perpetuate it, but tell people to stop or say, 'Stan, I'm sorry.' He didn't do any of that."

Paul has since met with Hornets' management and appears less eager to leave New Orleans, but all the signals from Anthony are that he would like to be in a different uniform this season.

Wedding signals included.

Anthony's agent, Leon Rose, could not be reached for comment and the Nuggets declined to comment.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5468878