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Dutch
06-23-2010, 02:09 PM
WIMBLEDON, England -- The longest match in tennis history was suspended because of darkness at 59-59 in the fifth set at Wimbledon on Wednesday night.

The first-round match between 23rd-seeded John Isner of Tampa, Fla., and qualifier Nicolas Mahut of France had already been suspended because of fading light Tuesday night after the fourth set.

They have been playing each other for a total of exactly 10 hours -- 7 hours, 6 minutes in the fifth set alone, enough to break the full-match record of 6:33, set at the 2004 French Open


where they actually stand! WOW!

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 02:23 PM
What a great day for US Soccer.

This is a team that our country feels proud to get behind and support.

If we can knock off Ghana, anything can happen. Anything.

SleepingTiger
06-23-2010, 03:03 PM
incredible, incredible, incredible!!!!! this is why i love soccer and this is why i love America. the heart displayed today was absolutely incredible. wow!!

SleepingTiger
06-23-2010, 03:05 PM
What a great day for US Soccer.

This is a team that our country feels proud to get behind and support.

If we can knock off Ghana, anything can happen. Anything.

where in texas do you live? Im looking for a local bar that will show the game on saturday

Vegas_Bronco
06-23-2010, 03:22 PM
GOAAAAL! Can't believe how that game ended....91st minute.

Congrats USA!

I REALLY like our chances against Ghana too. Ghana looked pretty sloppy today completing fewer passes than Cutler and Orton combined in a "playoffs on the porch" day. I believe they had 2 shots on goal the entire 2nd half. We play our game we could be on to the next round!

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 03:28 PM
Vuvuzela Guy:
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epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 03:29 PM
where in texas do you live? Im looking for a local bar that will show the game on saturday

I live in DFW. There are tons of bars around that will be showing the game.

That One Guy
06-23-2010, 03:32 PM
GOAAAAL! Can't believe how that game ended....91st minute.

Congrats USA!

I REALLY like our chances against Ghana too. Ghana looked pretty sloppy today completing fewer passes than Cutler and Orton combined in a "playoffs on the porch" day. I believe they had 2 shots on goal the entire 2nd half. We play our game we could be on to the next round!

Ghana played in streaks it seemed and while they did ok in a few areas, they weren't great in anything. Ghana really had the better scoring opportunities but they weren't necessarily the best team.

SleepingTiger
06-23-2010, 03:56 PM
I live in DFW. There are tons of bars around that will be showing the game.

Cool. what i mean was i didn't want to go to a bar with only the bartender watching the game with me. I was thinking of going to Fox and Hound near UTD. I will call them up and see if they are doing anything special for saturday

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 04:00 PM
Cool. what i mean was i didn't want to go to a bar with only the bartender watching the game with me. I was thinking of going to Fox and Hound near UTD. I will call them up and see if they are doing anything special for saturday

Sure. I know that there are many in FW. I would check around the SMU campus as well...they have a great soccer program and probably have some local bars with passionate fans.

You also could check on ussoccer.com to see if they have watch parties listed. Also check with Sams Army and American Outlaws.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 04:06 PM
Ex-President Bill Clinton from the US locker room:

"It was a great game. You know, all great contests become head games at some point -- sports, elections, wars. And they [Team USA] have good heads and good hearts."

Atwater His Ass
06-23-2010, 04:21 PM
The US will be motiavted against Ghana, since they officially knocked the US out in the group stage in 2006, 2-1.

Hope they don't overlook them again. US has a chance to make it to the semi's as they can compete with either Uruguay or South Korea. Would then probably meet up with Brazil though. Would love to see it.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 04:34 PM
The US will be motiavted against Ghana, since they officially knocked the US out in the group stage in 2006, 2-1.

Hope they don't overlook them again. US has a chance to make it to the semi's as they can compete with either Uruguay or South Korea. Would then probably meet up with Brazil though. Would love to see it.

There is motivation for that game because the US were robbed against Ghana as well. That PK given because the little Ghanaian flopped on a header 15 yards away from the goal was absolute garbage.

They owe us one.

As for a potential meeting with Brazil, that would be epic. Probably would be the most-watched soccer game of all time here.

worm
06-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Or, you know, there might be some motivation because its a knockout game in the World Cup.

I really doubt they need to find reasons from 4 years ago to motivate themselves.

WABronco
06-23-2010, 04:42 PM
Damn I've been on a high all day...Saturday can't come soon enough.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 04:51 PM
Or, you know, there might be some motivation because its a knockout game in the World Cup.

I really doubt they need to find reasons from 4 years ago to motivate themselves.

Well, since players like Donovan, Dempsey, Onyewu, and Cherundolo have been using 2006 as motivation up to this point, its not a stretch to think that they'll still be using it as motivation from here on out.

Atwater His Ass
06-23-2010, 05:02 PM
There is motivation for that game because the US were robbed against Ghana as well. That PK given because the little Ghanaian flopped on a header 15 yards away from the goal was absolute garbage.

They owe us one.

As for a potential meeting with Brazil, that would be epic. Probably would be the most-watched soccer game of all time here.

Yeah, that match still leaves a bad taste in my mouth just thinking about it.

The US is really due to come out and have a solid game in this tournament.

DARE TO DREAM!

Or, you know, there might be some motivation because its a knockout game in the World Cup.

I really doubt they need to find reasons from 4 years ago to motivate themselves.

You must be new to international football, and I don't mean that in a degrading way. Things like this stay around for a long time in this game. Just ask England fans about the '86 quarterfinal Argentina game.

worm
06-23-2010, 05:11 PM
Well, since players like Donovan, Dempsey, Onyewu, and Cherundolo have been using 2006 as motivation up to this point, its not a stretch to think that they'll still be using it as motivation from here on out.

Certainly they didn't want an early exit and pointed to 2006 as motivation for ensuring that wouldn't happen.

Ghana also feels motivated in this upcoming game because they have all of Africa pulling for them.

Personally I think at this point in the tournament, I just assume everyone is pretty damn motivated.

You must be new to international football, and I don't mean that in a degrading way. Things like this stay around for a long time in this game. Just ask England fans about the '86 quarterfinal Argentina game.

Of course fans and players remember. In ANY sport. I was speaking to the need for players to have 'extra motivation' in a game of this magnitude.

Maybe we are using the word 'motivation' differently.

I think it will be sweeter when the US beats Ghana to advance and crush their dreams. I just think that all players will be highly motivated regardless of opponent because it is the freakin' World Cup Quarters.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 05:25 PM
The US is really due to come out and have a solid game in this tournament.

The US team has gotten better every week.

We have scored goals from the run of play, we finally got a clean sheet. Now, we just need to score goals and keep a clean sheet at the same time. ;D

That One Guy
06-23-2010, 06:13 PM
The US team has gotten better every week.

We have scored goals from the run of play, we finally got a clean sheet. Now, we just need to score goals and keep a clean sheet at the same time. ;D

Scoring because you can and not because you have to would be great, as well.

Maybe one in the first half so we can relax some? It reminds me of the Broncos a few years ago where it seemed every week for the first half dozen games we were getting a last second FG from Elam or hoping for a miracle. It was the year of Elam's Toro FG.

Kid A
06-23-2010, 06:17 PM
Landon Donovan almost blew up the Internet.

http://mashable.com/2010/06/23/usa-vs-algeria-world-cup/

The dramatic ending to the World Cup match between the USA and Algeria could set a new record for Internet (Internet) traffic.

We’ve been watching Akamai’s Net Usage Index, which tracks visitors per minute on more than 100 of the major news sites in Akamai’s network. In the minutes following Landon Donovan’s game winning goal in the 91st minute of action (which sent the U.S. to the round of 16), traffic spiked to 11.2 million visitors per minute, which moves the event past the 2008 presidential election as the second highest traffic spike of all-time.

That One Guy
06-23-2010, 06:36 PM
Well, so much for my suggestion that they needed to find someone else to be the face of USA Soccer. His goal against Slovenia (and play overall in that game) and then today's goal has made him absolutely the face of this team and USA soccer in general. Definitely stepping up on the big stage.

DBruleU
06-23-2010, 06:41 PM
For any music lovers out there, thought you may want the sheet music for the Vuvuzela.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Landon Donovan almost blew up the Internet.

http://mashable.com/2010/06/23/usa-vs-algeria-world-cup/

Wow!

And "soccer wont make it in this country". Yeah right.

Soccer HAS made it in this country.

McDman
06-23-2010, 07:02 PM
I've been drunk since 10:30, I almost cried when we scored...

qnpd
06-23-2010, 07:21 PM
For any music lovers out there, thought you may want the sheet music for the Vuvuzela.

i lol'd

gunns
06-23-2010, 07:41 PM
WIMBLEDON, England -- The longest match in tennis history was suspended because of darkness at 59-59 in the fifth set at Wimbledon on Wednesday night.

The first-round match between 23rd-seeded John Isner of Tampa, Fla., and qualifier Nicolas Mahut of France had already been suspended because of fading light Tuesday night after the fourth set.

They have been playing each other for a total of exactly 10 hours -- 7 hours, 6 minutes in the fifth set alone, enough to break the full-match record of 6:33, set at the 2004 French Open


where they actually stand! WOW!

Damn I got tired just reading that.

brncs_fan
06-23-2010, 07:57 PM
Is it time???

Oh I think it is!!!

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2KBack
06-23-2010, 07:58 PM
Wow!

And "soccer wont make it in this country". Yeah right.

Soccer HAS made it in this country.

you might be overestimating it a bit. Patriotism has made it in this country. I know I'll probably go back to ignoring soccer after the world cup is over

That One Guy
06-23-2010, 08:00 PM
you might be overestimating it a bit. Patriotism has made it in this country. I know I'll probably go back to ignoring soccer after the world cup is over

I was thinking earlier today that the last time I saw everything like this over soccer was when the women did whatever they did and that Brandy Chastain girl took off her shirt.

I then proceeded to wonder if the women still have a world cup.

SoCalBronco
06-23-2010, 08:01 PM
Depending on how the final group games turn out....we could see Brazil vs. Spain in the Round of 16. That's a matchup fit for the Final....much less Round of 16.

gunns
06-23-2010, 08:07 PM
you might be overestimating it a bit. Patriotism has made it in this country. I know I'll probably go back to ignoring soccer after the world cup is over

I would like to understand it better. But I think it is growing. I've been to some Real Salt Lake games and I do enjoy watching and of course ever since they won the MLS championship it's very much growing with me. Nothing will ever take over for my passion for football but since baseball has gotten so boring and the NBA is so corrupt it's refreshing to have a new sport to have some passion for.

Requiem
06-23-2010, 08:08 PM
Depending on how the final group games turn out....we could see Brazil vs. Spain in the Round of 16. That's a matchup fit for the Final....much less Round of 16.

So what is Tim Tebow gonna do about it?

That One Guy
06-23-2010, 08:14 PM
Depending on how the final group games turn out....we could see Brazil vs. Spain in the Round of 16. That's a matchup fit for the Final....much less Round of 16.

I hadn't thought about that. We get Brazil vs Portugal to finish out that group's games and whoever loses that likely gets to take on Spain. What a group of games.

Orange4Life
06-23-2010, 08:17 PM
I would like to understand it better. But I think it is growing. I've been to some Real Salt Lake games and I do enjoy watching and of course ever since they won the MLS championship it's very much growing with me. Nothing will ever take over for my passion for football but since baseball has gotten so boring and the NBA is so corrupt it's refreshing to have a new sport to have some passion for.

RSL games are great:thumbsup: Its a great atmosphere for a summer night activity

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 08:57 PM
I've been drunk since 10:30, I almost cried when we scored...

Ha Ha! It was quite a moment.

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2010, 09:02 PM
you might be overestimating it a bit. Patriotism has made it in this country. I know I'll probably go back to ignoring soccer after the world cup is over

See, here's the thing...

Our people know about it because its all over the news. If you watch sportscenter, you see the World Cup all over it.

ESPN has entered into a broadcasting contract with FIFA and with other leagues. That meas that youre going to see soccer on sportscenter all the time. Its here. Now.

You will get storylines while you are reading news or watching it on TV. Landon Donovan will be a household name after this tournament.

spdirty
06-23-2010, 09:07 PM
I might tune in if they make the semis.

Lev Vyvanse
06-23-2010, 09:21 PM
I might tune in if they make the semis.

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/128858634227828188.jpg

DarkHorse30
06-23-2010, 10:02 PM
Ha Ha! It was quite a moment.

OK, let's just say it. USA is the best country in the world.....by a friggin' continent mile. We rule, we rock, we are THE BEST. Suck on that, World.

And take your PC world and FLLUUSSSHH it.

Nothing against our leader(s), but they don't get it. The world, unless they are into Jihad, LOVES this country......and I do to. Screw the rest of you retards. If you don't get it, MOOOOVVVE OUT!!!!

That goal was beautiful......at the very end of the chances, in spite of terrible refs for 3 games (yes, we DO keep track), AMERICA came out and did the impossible. Yes, it may get old to native american's (not indian's ....please) but this country is the BEST THERE IS.

Feel free to celebrate. It's ALL good.

Rock Chalk
06-23-2010, 11:17 PM
After the US gets knocked out of the world Cup 95% of America will go back to not giving a **** about soccer.

Most of America is like me. Watch the US in the World Cup and that's it. No other soccer should ever be broadcast in this country.

baja
06-23-2010, 11:22 PM
The game is growing on me.

Inkana7
06-23-2010, 11:26 PM
I'll probably watch more soccer because of this tournament.

McDman
06-24-2010, 05:27 AM
http://www.fanaticos.com/2010/06/23/asi-narro-andres-cantor-el-gol-de-landon-donovan/

This is hilariously awesome.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 05:41 AM
http://www.fanaticos.com/2010/06/23/asi-narro-andres-cantor-el-gol-de-landon-donovan/

This is hilariously awesome.

My summary incase anyone can't listen:

Spanish talk

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More Spanish talk

Dutch
06-24-2010, 05:59 AM
Morning, all. Kind of glad we are to the point of 10:00 am edt game starts as opposed to 07:30. Anyone know where we can get the TV viewer numbers for yesterday's games? If the game against Slovenia was the third highest watched US game ever, then yesterday's must have beat those. I can't get over the number of people talking about the games and this team in particular. I was picking up deck stain at Home Depot at halftime yesterday and made a comment about hurrying back for the second half, half a dozen folks were doing the same thing! I must have had 12 phone calls from friends who I would call USA fans, not soccer fans. Of those there are 5-6 of them that are beginning to "get" the game and starting to watch more of it. UEFA Champions League and EPL coverage has also been a huge help. The overall quality of play in those games is exceptional. Sorry for the rambling post this morning, you folks just got me wondering how the game did ratings wise.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 06:01 AM
Did he get the job?

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 06:12 AM
I'm gonna guess they're not released yet. I agree it should blow Slovenia game out of the water. If the Saturday game is marketed as a game we can and should win, the numbers could be insane. If folks think we'll lose (which would've been more likely had we drawn Germany) then they'd be lower. They're set up well to have at least one more huge ratings game. Very nice to see.

baja
06-24-2010, 06:16 AM
Did he get the job?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2867371#post2867371

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 06:30 AM
Oh... I thought he meant that day. Maybe he did take a trip. Good pickup, Baja

baja
06-24-2010, 06:46 AM
Oh... I thought he meant that day. Maybe he did take a trip. Good pickup, Baja

I think he got his feelings hurt and left

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 06:55 AM
Well I hope not. The dog hurtin' seeds thread or something else?

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 06:56 AM
I am rooting for Slovakia this morning. France already went home now lets send home the champs.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 07:02 AM
Don't sleep on the Slavs.

McDman
06-24-2010, 07:12 AM
This whole group stage is about the best thing that could have happened for the US team. First we draw with England who everyone was picking to kill us, then that second game did a lot to bring support from non-soccer fans after getting screwed, and now we win in the 91st minute. It's beautiful.

I became a big soccer fan after the 2006 World Cup and we blew it hard. With the viewership numbers continue soccer will only get better. Just think if only 20% of the people watching who don't ever follow soccer start watching it now, it's going to get even bigger.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 07:15 AM
This whole group stage is about the best thing that could have happened for the US team. First we draw with England who everyone was picking to kill us, then that second game did a lot to bring support from non-soccer fans after getting screwed, and now we win in the 91st minute. It's beautiful.

I became a big soccer fan after the 2006 World Cup and we blew it hard. With the viewership numbers continue soccer will only get better. Just think if only 20% of the people watching who don't ever follow soccer start watching it now, it's going to get even bigger.

Agreed that it worked out perfectly. Fits the American's desire for drama. That said, Americans are fair weather for the most part so it could all go by the wayside if and when they lose. Finding a way to maintain and build on that publicity is the key.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 07:26 AM
How unimpressive can Italy play? Field is sluggish, keeper looks half lost, and the strikers couldn't hit my wife's family at 10 yards and they would make very large targets.

Beantown Bronco
06-24-2010, 07:36 AM
Just think if only 20% of the people watching who don't ever follow soccer start watching it now, it's going to get even bigger.

Agreed that it worked out perfectly. Fits the American's desire for drama. That said, Americans are fair weather for the most part so it could all go by the wayside if and when they lose. Finding a way to maintain and build on that publicity is the key.

I'll go a step further. The US could make the finals and it really won't matter much in terms of ratings in between World Cups. Few if any who didn't watch MLS before the World Cup are now all of a sudden going to watch it because the US team did well in the World Cup. And it's not like they're now all of a sudden going to watch more international games. People that were truly interested in the sport will keep doing what they were doing before. And people that are "World Cup bandwagoners" will go back to their life without soccer, as usual, until the next World Cup comes around.

This current run won't change anyone's lives significantly IMO.

Did hockey viewership change after the 1980 Olympics?

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 07:37 AM
Slovakia doesn't have the vision of the top tier teams but man their individual efforts are impressive. Winning balls everywhere, yanking hope out of the Italians at every turn, and knocking on the door for more goals.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 07:41 AM
I'll go a step further. The US could make the finals and it really won't matter much in terms of ratings in between World Cups. Few if any who didn't watch MLS before the World Cup are now all of a sudden going to watch it because the US team did well in the World Cup. And it's not like they're now all of a sudden going to watch more international games. People that were truly interested in the sport will keep doing what they were doing before. And people that are "World Cup bandwagoners" will go back to their life without soccer, as usual, until the next World Cup comes around.

This current run won't change anyone's lives significantly IMO.

Did hockey viewership change after the 1980 Olympics?

In the end, all sports come down to me rooting my favorite team against your favorite team. In this, we can root for our country against other countries. I can't tell you 5 cities that have MLS teams and if there's a such thing as an MLS rivalry, I've never heard of it. Enjoying the sport will make you sit down and watch a game here and there but without any drama, we just don't care. They could find a way to make MLS more popular fairly easily but they'll essentially have to create the attraction the way football has.

Old Dude
06-24-2010, 07:48 AM
I've hated soccer all my life, but I have to admit, this is changing my mind. Call me a bandwagon biatch, but this team is frakkin' amazing.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 07:51 AM
I've hated soccer all my life, but I have to admit, this is changing my mind. Call me a bandwagon biatch, but this team is frakkin' amazing.

The only difference between you and half of America is you'll admit it. That's ok though. Fan for a day or for a lifetime, everyone gets to enjoy when our country beats up on other countries.

McDman
06-24-2010, 08:00 AM
I'll go a step further. The US could make the finals and it really won't matter much in terms of ratings in between World Cups. Few if any who didn't watch MLS before the World Cup are now all of a sudden going to watch it because the US team did well in the World Cup. And it's not like they're now all of a sudden going to watch more international games. People that were truly interested in the sport will keep doing what they were doing before. And people that are "World Cup bandwagoners" will go back to their life without soccer, as usual, until the next World Cup comes around.

This current run won't change anyone's lives significantly IMO.

Did hockey viewership change after the 1980 Olympics?

Of course it won't change anyone's life, you took what I said out of context.

I'm just saying there is going to be more and more people who will now be interested in it. Like my cousin, he never watched a game before and now he loves watching it. I think if there is a game on he'll now tune in. It may not be a huge group but there will be plenty more people who now will follow it, especially EPL teams.

Hopefully Donovan can go back to Everton. Our biggest star is wasting away in the MLS.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:04 AM
Of course it won't change anyone's life, you took what I said out of context.

I'm just saying there is going to be more and more people who will now be interested in it. Like my cousin, he never watched a game before and now he loves watching it. I think if there is a game on he'll now tune in. It may not be a huge group but there will be plenty more people who now will follow it, especially EPL teams.

Hopefully Donovan can go back to Everton. Our biggest star is wasting away in the MLS.

You wont get a large following of a European club in the US. I just can't see that happening. The best way to grow the sport is to bring to the US a group that commands respect. Until they do, US soccer will always be second tier and be treated like the WNBA. Donovan is doing more for US soccer by staying stateside if they can capitalize on his publicity.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:10 AM
Ref went over and yelled at the Slovakian keeper to get up when he thought he was pretending to be hurt. Just stood over him yelling get up. Awesome to see.

McDman
06-24-2010, 08:25 AM
You wont get a large following of a European club in the US. I just can't see that happening. The best way to grow the sport is to bring to the US a group that commands respect. Until they do, US soccer will always be second tier and be treated like the WNBA. Donovan is doing more for US soccer by staying stateside if they can capitalize on his publicity.

We'll never get the talent over here to have a big league that could compete with others, especially when it's called Major League Soccer. They should have called it the American Premier League and maybe have the USL be a second tier league with relegations and such.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:26 AM
Slovakian defender barely saved his team's hopes on a goal that might've scored anyways. Italy definitely playing better. Finally getting solid shots.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:30 AM
We'll never get the talent over here to have a big league that could compete with others, especially when it's called Major League Soccer. They should have called it the American Premier League and maybe have the USL be a second tier league with relegations and such.

We can grow our own if they grow the popularity for it. As long as the European leagues are the top tier goal for American born players though, it'll never amount to much. They need to jump on the opportunity to keep big name players like Donovan in the MLS and quit letting them run off.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:31 AM
Another goal... well done.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:35 AM
Say goodnight to the defending chumps! France and Italy both out? Awesome!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:36 AM
Say goodnight to the defending chumps! France and Italy both out? Awesome!

Absolutely agreed.

baja
06-24-2010, 08:37 AM
Ref went over and yelled at the Slovakian keeper to get up when he thought he was pretending to be hurt. Just stood over him yelling get up. Awesome to see.


I loved that and the announcer said we are trying to clean that up. No place in the game for that nonsense.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:38 AM
Have to admit that I would love to see the Kiwis snag a last min goal to go through....not sure they can do it against Paraguay.

Beantown Bronco
06-24-2010, 08:38 AM
Of course it won't change anyone's life, you took what I said out of context.

I'm just saying there is going to be more and more people who will now be interested in it.

Ummmm, this is precisely what I meant by "changing your life". I'm saying people won't do what you are claiming in your second sentence above. They'll follow the rest of the World Cup....at least as long as we are in it. And then, they'll go back to their lives as usual. It doesn't matter how far they go. 99% of people will not watch one single MLS or international game in 2011 and 2012 that they wouldn't have watched prior to this current US World Cup run, no matter what we do in this tournament.

Like my cousin, he never watched a game before and now he loves watching it. I think if there is a game on he'll now tune in.

I'm not denying this. OBVIOUSLY more people in the US are watching this World Cup than have ever watched it before. This is not debatable. What I'm talking about is the effect this World Cup will have on tv ratings for soccer in general in 2011 and 2012. It will have no measurable impact IMO no matter how much further the US team goes.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:43 AM
The ref did well giving both players yellows after that goal situation. The keeper was getting shoved and stuffed into the goal but the retaliation was unnecessary.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:44 AM
Ummmm, this is precisely what I meant by "changing your life". I'm saying people won't do what you are claiming in your second sentence above. They'll follow the rest of the World Cup....at least as long as we are in it. And then, they'll go back to their lives as usual. It doesn't matter how far they go. 99% of people will not watch one single MLS or international game in 2011 and 2012 that they wouldn't have watched prior to this current US World Cup run, no matter what we do in this tournament.



I'm not denying this. OBVIOUSLY more people in the US are watching this World Cup than have ever watched it before. This is not debatable. What I'm talking about is the effect this World Cup will have on tv ratings for soccer in general in 2011 and 2012. It will have no measurable impact IMO no matter how much further the US team goes.


Ok, OK, OK.....valid points made guys, on both sides. Nothing to do but see how it turns out in the future. Back to the games at hand.....Anyone else looking forward to seeing Robben play for the Dutch today? Italy trying to come back as well I see....

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:44 AM
Italy definitely pummeling with momentum here. Looks like the end of a Rocky movie. Slovakia beat em the whole game but Italy is coming back blazing. Just have to see if the game ends before Italy can get a knockout punch in. Barely dodged one.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:47 AM
What a great touch goal for Slovakia! Wow....see ya' Italia!!!!!

baja
06-24-2010, 08:47 AM
I love this game - what I like is NO COMMERCIALS every 5 seconds

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:47 AM
And that ends that. What awesome touch.

baja
06-24-2010, 08:49 AM
WOW just WOW

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:49 AM
Now if the Kiwi's can counter on this free kick and get a goal, crud....didn't happen. Love to see 'em score here...

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Wow, Italy puts even better touch on their goal. How amazing.

baja
06-24-2010, 08:52 AM
I love this game....

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:53 AM
I love this game - what I like is NO COMMERCIALS every 5 seconds

I also love the lack of bs scrolling across the bottom of the screen. Well, New Zealand with 3 ties and no losses. Heroic out for them. Slovakia 3-2 Italy with the pressure on here...OOOOOOOO close!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 08:54 AM
Italy could've tied it if that fool uses his left foot like he's supposed to. Completely abandoning basics.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 08:57 AM
Man, what an example of the difference between the Italian and French reactions to elimination. The Frogs with that petulant sour look, the Italians look emotionally crushed.

bfoflcommish
06-24-2010, 09:00 AM
found on another forum

This World Cup is turning out just like WW2.

France have forfeited.
The USA turned up late
And the the English are left to fight the Germans.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 09:01 AM
Well, 16th aniversary today. So I'm off for flowers and a netbook (She is such a tech geek:thumbs:). Catch you all for the Main Event of the afternoon (go Netherlands!:yayaya:)!

baja
06-24-2010, 09:01 AM
This will help the US right?

Dutch
06-24-2010, 09:05 AM
found on another forum

This World Cup is turning out just like WW2.

France have forfeited.
The USA turned up late
And the the English are left to fight the Germans.

The Italians have folded before the real fight begins as well!

Dutch
06-24-2010, 09:07 AM
This will help the US right?

Check out my ID. The Dutch are my other team. Always have been as I love the open style that they play. Doesn't hurt that I am of Dutch descent.

WABronco
06-24-2010, 09:15 AM
Ummmm, this is precisely what I meant by "changing your life". I'm saying people won't do what you are claiming in your second sentence above. They'll follow the rest of the World Cup....at least as long as we are in it. And then, they'll go back to their lives as usual. It doesn't matter how far they go. 99% of people will not watch one single MLS or international game in 2011 and 2012 that they wouldn't have watched prior to this current US World Cup run, no matter what we do in this tournament.

I'm not denying this. OBVIOUSLY more people in the US are watching this World Cup than have ever watched it before. This is not debatable. What I'm talking about is the effect this World Cup will have on tv ratings for soccer in general in 2011 and 2012. It will have no measurable impact IMO no matter how much further the US team goes.

Errrr, the MLS is on tv?

MLS is garbage, and I'm a long time soccer fan. Sorry, but I just can't watch such a sub par product. It's like the WNBA.

I think a better product would go a long way, and we're pretty far from that still IMO.

gtown
06-24-2010, 09:55 AM
found on another forum

This World Cup is turning out just like WW2.

France have forfeited.
The USA turned up late
And the the English are left to fight the Germans.

Now all we need is the Japanese team to sneak into the US-Ghana game and dive at our forwards ankles and the analogy is more or less complete. Well except for the nukes.

AlienBronco
06-24-2010, 10:26 AM
Check out my ID. The Dutch are my other team. Always have been as I love the open style that they play. Doesn't hurt that I am of Dutch descent.

HUP Holland HUP....

HAT
06-24-2010, 10:59 AM
Ummmm, this is precisely what I meant by "changing your life". I'm saying people won't do what you are claiming in your second sentence above. They'll follow the rest of the World Cup....at least as long as we are in it. And then, they'll go back to their lives as usual. It doesn't matter how far they go. 99% of people will not watch one single MLS or international game in 2011 and 2012 that they wouldn't have watched prior to this current US World Cup run, no matter what we do in this tournament.


I agree with you on the MLS front but not on the Int'l one.

I started watching the National team in 1994 when we hosted and that led to me following them as much as I could....Gold Cup, WC qualifiers, friendlies, etc. Which led to a heightened interest in all international soccer.

I'll watch the occasional Galaxy game on FSN if there's nothing else on but I'll watch most any match between National teams and most high profile EPL, Serie A & La Liga ones.

I think most WC converts will follow the same path.

The Joker
06-24-2010, 11:00 AM
Good to see Italy humiliated like that, Lippi showing his class by refusing to shake the Slovak manager's hand afterward.

BlaK-Argentina
06-24-2010, 11:01 AM
Meeeh... seeing Italy go sucks ass. That was the best game so far.

You can always count on them for some late heroics. Too bad they were on the wrong side of two calls that could have gone either way.

Go Argies!

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:11 AM
Meeeh...Italy sucks ass. That was the best game so far.

You can always count on them for some late heroics. Too bad they were on the wrong side of two calls that could have gone either way.

Go Argies!

Fixed that for you! LOL Sorry, couldn't resist on this one! They have no one but themselves to blame for the way they played their first two games. Italy was on top of the world with their players and their pro league both being as good as any in the world. Not so now. They are going to be transitioning to a younger generation between now and the next cup.



By the way, Bro'. Pampita is killing me! Hah!

Chris
06-24-2010, 11:15 AM
Good. The first hair gel team bites the dust. Next up - Portugal or Spain?

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:20 AM
HUP Holland HUP....

About 25 min to kickoff. Heineken mini-kegs ready. Last smoke break and head call before kickoff, grab the beer and settle in for the game. No Robben for the Orange again today, bummer. I think the game to watch will be Japan vs Denmark. Pulling for Japan as I spent 4.5 years there.....but I think the Danes will prove to be too strong.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:22 AM
Good. The first hair gel team bites the dust. Next up - Portugal or Spain?

Both would be hilarious!

BlaK-Argentina
06-24-2010, 11:22 AM
Fixed that for you! LOL Sorry, couldn't resist on this one! They have no one but themselves to blame for the way they played their first two games. Italy was on top of the world with their players and their pro league both being as good as any in the world. Not so now. They are going to be transitioning to a younger generation between now and the next cup.



By the way, Bro'. Pampita is killing me! Hah!

Man your Pampita comment saved your ass!!! ;D

Nah I know everyone hates the Italian team but I've always been a fan of the "win no matter how ugly it looks" style they play and today they were close to pulling another one off. It sucks that we won't be seeing those last minute heroics anymore from them.

Buuuut... I guess we still have the US for that... right? :thumbs:

BlaK-Argentina
06-24-2010, 11:27 AM
BTW kind of an unrelated post but here's a video of the photo session with Pampita where my avatar came from. It is a soccer theme and I want to share it with the Omane World Cup crowd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0iQW_2bOE

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:27 AM
Man your Pampita comment saved your ass!!! ;D

Nah I know everyone hates the Italian team but I've always been a fan of the "win no matter how ugly it looks" style they play and today they were close to pulling another one off. It sucks that we won't be seeing those last minute heroics anymore from them.

Buuuut... I guess we still have the US for that... right? :thumbs:

That long goal from Italy was one of the best I've seen. Put some touch on it for the absolutely perfect shot. I was rooting for them to go home but was kinda cheering for the comeback when they looked like they were going.

There was a couple offsides calls that I think were iffy again. If there's any doubt at all, they should leave it alone. Only call the glaring ones.

BlaK-Argentina
06-24-2010, 11:29 AM
That long goal from Italy was one of the best I've seen. Put some touch on it for the absolutely perfect shot. I was rooting for them to go home but was kinda cheering for the comeback when they looked like they were going.

There was a couple offsides calls that I think were iffy again. If there's any doubt at all, they should leave it alone. Only call the glaring ones.

I actually missed that goal cause I got pissed when they went down 3-1 and changed the channel. ROFL! Only to switch back a minute later and find out they were 3-2 and going all in.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:29 AM
Since the Cameroon Netherlands game is just for fun I will be watching Japan Denmark. Don't have any knowledge on these teams so I don't have a preferance. Just hope to see two teams fight to the whistle for the right to advance.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:44 AM
BTW kind of an unrelated post but here's a video of the photo session with Pampita where my avatar came from. It is a soccer theme and I want to share it with the Omane World Cup crowd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0iQW_2bOE

Er, anything happen in the games yet.....couldn't seem to focus on anything else for 2:40...Wow. OK, aniversary tonight, ehem, cough, cough.

Almost made me forget to thank you, BA....:thumbsup:

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:47 AM
Japan goal on a free kick. What a shot.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Nice shot Honda!

McDman
06-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Ummmm, this is precisely what I meant by "changing your life". I'm saying people won't do what you are claiming in your second sentence above. They'll follow the rest of the World Cup....at least as long as we are in it. And then, they'll go back to their lives as usual. It doesn't matter how far they go. 99% of people will not watch one single MLS or international game in 2011 and 2012 that they wouldn't have watched prior to this current US World Cup run, no matter what we do in this tournament.



I'm not denying this. OBVIOUSLY more people in the US are watching this World Cup than have ever watched it before. This is not debatable. What I'm talking about is the effect this World Cup will have on tv ratings for soccer in general in 2011 and 2012. It will have no measurable impact IMO no matter how much further the US team goes.


I disagree, I think ratings for international games will get a lot higher. Not so much for the MLS.

McDman
06-24-2010, 11:49 AM
I agree with you on the MLS front but not on the Int'l one.

I started watching the National team in 1994 when we hosted and that led to me following them as much as I could....Gold Cup, WC qualifiers, friendlies, etc. Which led to a heightened interest in all international soccer.

I'll watch the occasional Galaxy game on FSN if there's nothing else on but I'll watch most any match between National teams and most high profile EPL, Serie A & La Liga ones.

I think most WC converts will follow the same path.

You pretty much summed up my post perfectly. The only MLS games I try to watch are Seattle.

The Joker
06-24-2010, 11:51 AM
Great strike but the keeper has to save that.

Japan looking good, only need a draw to progress.

BlaK-Argentina
06-24-2010, 11:53 AM
Er, anything happen in the games yet.....couldn't seem to focus on anything else for 2:40...Wow. OK, aniversary tonight, ehem, cough, cough.

Almost made me forget to thank you, BA....:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: No problem man. She's way too hot. Not even fair.

Anyway... back to soccer... :rofl:

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:54 AM
Great strike but the keeper has to save that.

Japan looking good, only need a draw to progress.

Agreed, not sure why he moved near post. The play will almost always be far post there to get by the wall. He almost got back but his slight mistake and a great knuckle ball just made it too much.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:56 AM
How does a player get a yellow on a throw in? Didn't hear the explanation.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 11:58 AM
Agreed, not sure why he moved near post. The play will almost always be far post there to get by the wall. He almost got back but his slight mistake and a great knuckle ball just made it too much.

Yeah, looks like the new ball had a pretty good "slurve" on it. Japan is doing a nice job getting back and frustrating the Danes offense. Camaroon/Netherlands is pretty wide open, but not much going on. Looks like the first half of a friendly.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 11:59 AM
I believe that's 4 yellows in 28 minutes of play. Nice little run he's on.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:00 PM
Did it again! Another free kick.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:01 PM
What a great call on the penalty shot! I often wonder why more teams don't use this. Awesome!

The Joker
06-24-2010, 12:02 PM
Second Japan goal was pure quality.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:03 PM
What a great call on the penalty shot! I often wonder why more teams don't use this. Awesome!

Well I personally thought the mistake was with the location of the wall. From dead on front, why not make two side walls and give him the direct shot if he wants it? Give the keeper a chance to see the ball. Completely and solely my own opinion there.

They usually use that first guy as a decoy but it did no good there as the keeper couldn't see if someone was kicking it or not. All view was blocked.

McDman
06-24-2010, 12:04 PM
Second Japan goal was pure quality.

Effing beautiful.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:05 PM
Denmark looking completely overmatched so far. Japan just playing the better game.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:06 PM
And there's a prime example of why Denmark is losing. Ball being passed to a Japanese player ends up behind the Dane but the Japanese guy runs a circle around the Dane and still gets his pass. Hustle happening in the blue jersey, none in the red.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:06 PM
Second Japan goal was pure quality.

This^^^^^


The Danes buildup could be clocked with a sundial compared to the speed the Japanese are getting back on defense. Sluggish would be a good work for the Danes. Japanese are starting to feel it, you can see the confidence in their play.

Requiem
06-24-2010, 12:06 PM
There is something wrong in Denmark.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:08 PM
There is something wrong in Denmark.

:rofl: Well played

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:08 PM
Goal by Van Persie for the Dutch! Finally!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:09 PM
I wonder what it must be like to have your home country up 2-0 30 minutes into the game. Must be nice and relaxing. How boring.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:09 PM
There is something wrong in Denmark.

classic:rofl:

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:10 PM
I wonder what it must be like to have your home country up 2-0 30 minutes into the game. Must be nice and relaxing. How boring.

Nah, what fun would that be?!

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:12 PM
I wonder what it must be like to have your home country up 2-0 30 minutes into the game. Must be nice and relaxing. How boring.

Last time I remember that feeling was US 2-0 Brazil in the Conf Cup last year. I didn't like the way I felt after that one near as much as the way I felt yesterday!:thumbs:

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:16 PM
Last time I remember that feeling was US 2-0 Brazil in the Conf Cup last year. I didn't like the way I felt after that one near as much as the way I felt yesterday!:thumbs:

Haha... In that case, I guess I agree.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:19 PM
Japanese buildup looks as good in this game as I can remember them ever looking. Nice 1-2 touch passes, good ball movement, with nice work to move forward and get a shot off.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:20 PM
Japanese buildup looks as good in this game as I can remember them ever looking. Nice 1-2 touch passes, good ball movement, with nice work to move forward and get a shot off.

Yes, not forcing anything and taking advantage of what is offered while the Danes seem to have trouble moving the ball past midfield. Something is wrong when a professional's pass at 10 yards misses the target by 15. They're just off today.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-24-2010, 12:24 PM
I sincerely hope you are all ready to be taken over by the Dutch.

The Oranj will imprison us all.

I, for one, welcome our new stoney overlords.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:35 PM
Denmark losing their cool and taking cheap shots. Stamp the passports, they're headed home.

Almost another Japan free kick goal. Such accuracy!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:40 PM
For English soccer fans being the epitome of rabid fanatics, it's amazing how many of their players are foreigners. Every country seems to have a few people scattered throughout the EPL. That in conjunction with how often it seems people trade teams and it's almost as if the people just like an excuse to get plastered and go crazy.

Denmark let that one get away. Should've been a goal.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 12:52 PM
I sincerely hope you are all ready to be taken over by the Dutch.

The Oranj will imprison us all.

I, for one, welcome our new stoney overlords.

Me too!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:56 PM
Just saw that Slovakia's reward for winning over Italy today is to play Netherlands next week. At least they can say they made the knockout round, I guess.

But, then, Cameroon tied them so Netherlands must not be very good. :)

Requiem
06-24-2010, 12:56 PM
I've been dreaming of another Oranje takeover since I was a boy playing FIFA World Cup on Super Nintendo. My dreams are gonna come true, I hope, I hope.

NETHERLANDS!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 12:58 PM
Haha what a horrible whiff.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-24-2010, 12:59 PM
I've been dreaming of another Oranje takeover since I was a boy playing FIFA World Cup on Super Nintendo. My dreams are gonna come true, I hope, I hope.

NETHERLANDS!

Me too. Really strong team this year, and I'm very hopeful.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 01:04 PM
It really is silly the percentage of fouls they call on offensive players inside the 18 yd box when everyone's tangled there. It's gotta be 10:1 offensive to defensive just to avoid giving the penalty kicks.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 01:07 PM
I say that and there's a PK. A completely needless penalty on Japan's part.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-24-2010, 01:09 PM
BOOM! goes the dynamite

Dutch
06-24-2010, 01:10 PM
The ball DIVES into the net

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-24-2010, 01:11 PM
The ball DIVES into the net

Is there anything prettier than a yawning net like that? Holy ****, I just came.

NYBronc
06-24-2010, 01:11 PM
Huntelaar!

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 01:15 PM
That'll finish that for Japan. They were almost playing with Denmark there.

AlienBronco
06-24-2010, 01:23 PM
OH yes, Oranje boven! Holland wins 2 to 1.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 02:09 PM
We'll never get the talent over here to have a big league that could compete with others, especially when it's called Major League Soccer. They should have called it the American Premier League and maybe have the USL be a second tier league with relegations and such.

Thats simply not true today, much less in the future.

ALOT of players would love the chance to play in America. The US is just a better place to live than Italy, England, France, or Spain. You get to keep more of your money and there's so much more you can do with it. There are more opportunities for you and your family. I have read numerous articles about how the US is a prime destination and how the MLS just doesnt have the money yet to be able to compete on the open market.

Once MLS can buy those contracts, all of the other things you mentioned wont matter a lick.

Requiem
06-24-2010, 02:18 PM
The day that they ever become popular enough to gain revenue and the ability to buy out those contracts is light years away.

Dutch
06-24-2010, 02:21 PM
Another compelling round of games today. Who would have had the Italians or Camaroon out of this round, or the Japanese and Paraguay going through to the round of 16? It will be interresting to see how Portugal and Brazil end up playing. Could end up going the way of today's Netherlands vs Camaroon game in that it should play pretty open. North Korea vs Ivory Coast is the who cares game of the day. Chile vs Spain should be huge. I believe the Chileans will be fired up and want to win the group to avoid Brazil, the Spanish will be playing for their lives. I'd love to see the Swiss win against Honduras and with a Chilean win eliminate the Spanish. Another great day of games to bring the group round to an end. Then the REAL fun and pressure begins! Fixing to take my Wife to Dinner and a nice evening out. Catch you all later.

Chris
06-24-2010, 02:22 PM
Thats simply not true today, much less in the future.

ALOT of players would love the chance to play in America. The US is just a better place to live than Italy, England, France, or Spain. You get to keep more of your money and there's so much more you can do with it. There are more opportunities for you and your family. I have read numerous articles about how the US is a prime destination and how the MLS just doesnt have the money yet to be able to compete on the open market.

Once MLS can buy those contracts, all of the other things you mentioned wont matter a lick.

Woah woah. If I could actually make money and not have to deal with European business culture... I would be living in all of those except England because of the weather (I grew up in a sunny British colony and got the best of both worlds). Women take amazing care of themselves there. Food is amazing. There's a ton of culture. Things are a lot closer together. People work a hell of a lot less and they have real news for adults (people underestimate how important this is).

Goods are cheaper in the US and we have football, a great wilderness, optimistic friendly people, organised, hard working people, less bureaucracy, more freedom for entrepreneurship... however, does any of that matter to a professional soccer player?

DBruleU
06-24-2010, 03:54 PM
The Worlds reaction to Donovans goal:

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British Bronco
06-24-2010, 04:08 PM
The US is just a better place to live than Italy, England, France, or Spain.

Woah, have you visited all of these places? I wouldn't be so sure - but you're patriotic, so its a pointless debate.

Anyway, i'm glad you won - i'm a huge Evertonian so absolute ecstatic for Tim Howard and Landon Donovan - if you look at Landon's Facebook you'll see nearly all Evertonians want him back here!!

The only problem is that his goal meant we now play Sunday afternoon instead of Saturday night here - its ruined a drunken night out here: the country stops when England is playing in the World Cup (probably 1 in 2 will watch the game)

However it has led to a full days drinkin on Sunday in the sunshine with a bbq and chance to beat the Krauts! :thumbsup:

oh... and the number one joke in the UK at the moment:
"This World Cup is turning out like World War II! The French have surrendered early, the Yanks have arrived at the last minute and we're left to fight the ****ing Germans!!"


Anyway good luck on Saturday, I, all Evertonians and I reckon most of the English will be rooting for ya!

USA! USA! USA!

McDman
06-24-2010, 04:18 PM
The Worlds reaction to Donovans goal:

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I don't think I'll ever get over that goal. I had given up and was starting to get depressed right before we scored. It's the closest I've come to crying from watching sports in my life. If the Broncos win the SB maybe I'll come a little close.

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 04:19 PM
Woah, have you visited all of these places? I wouldn't be so sure - but you're patriotic, so its a pointless debate.

Anyway, i'm glad you won - i'm a huge Evertonian so absolute ecstatic for Tim Howard and Landon Donovan - if you look at Landon's Facebook you'll see nearly all Evertonians want him back here!!

The only problem is that his goal meant we now play Sunday afternoon instead of Saturday night here - its ruined a drunken night out here: the country stops when England is playing in the World Cup (probably 1 in 2 will watch the game)

However it has led to a full days drinkin on Sunday in the sunshine with a bbq and chance to beat the Krauts! :thumbsup:

oh... and the number one joke in the UK at the moment:
"This World Cup is turning out like World War II! The French have surrendered early, the Yanks have arrived at the last minute and we're left to fight the ****ing Germans!!"


Anyway good luck on Saturday, I, all Evertonians and I reckon most of the English will be rooting for ya!

USA! USA! USA!

I'd take three kicks to the balls from the World Cup player of your choice before I'd live in France. (If I got to pick, I'm going with a Denmark player 'cause he'd miss)

Spain I didn't see much of but the country smelled funny.

I would absolutely love to see more of England. Loved London but obviously the whole country isn't to be judged by visiting the tourist locations.

When it comes to rooting interests... who doesn't root against the Germans? Just one question though, is your country done sucking? They'll get further if they play good. Just an observation :)

That One Guy
06-24-2010, 04:21 PM
By the way, British Bronco, since you undoubtedly watched your game. Did Slovenia seem content with the tie or were they playing that game for the win? When your game ended, they were still going through based on ties so I was curious if they thought they could do enough by not losing. Foolish move if so but I just didn't notice them doing anything crazy when I would glance at it during our game.

boltaneer
06-24-2010, 04:31 PM
The Worlds reaction to Donovans goal:

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Wow. That was awesome.

eddie mac
06-24-2010, 05:05 PM
By the way, British Bronco, since you undoubtedly watched your game. Did Slovenia seem content with the tie or were they playing that game for the win? When your game ended, they were still going through based on ties so I was curious if they thought they could do enough by not losing. Foolish move if so but I just didn't notice them doing anything crazy when I would glance at it during our game.

Follishness never came into it IMO, aside from a couple of minor fleeting moments England looked very solid at the back with Upson back there partnering Terry. England could've and should've buried them long before the end but IMO that's typical of England and the WC against teams they're expected not just to beat but to win comfortably.

I expect to see them raise their game tenfold and get a bit of payback against the Germans on Sunday.

BTW my outside tip for a minimum semi-final place and possible final berth is now Uruguay who IMO have been one of the best defensive sides I've seen in these finals yet and have South Korea/USA and Ghana in their path for the last 4.

cutthemdown
06-24-2010, 05:06 PM
Wow that video fired me up!! I don't even like soccer......But man I love my country!!!! USA USA USA!!!!!!

cutthemdown
06-24-2010, 05:07 PM
And one was from my town LONG BEACH IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!

cutthemdown
06-24-2010, 05:08 PM
That was one of the coolest viral sports videos on the net I have ever watched.

Kid A
06-24-2010, 05:57 PM
Great compilation video. Deadspin put together a nice page of most the reaction videos on YouTube: http://deadspin.com/5571222/a-childrens-treasury-of-drunk-people-screaming-about-donovans-goal

This one is worth watching for the Spanish commentary and goooooooaaaaaaal call.

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epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 07:28 PM
Woah, have you visited all of these places? I wouldn't be so sure - but you're patriotic, so its a pointless debate.

Anyway, i'm glad you won - i'm a huge Evertonian so absolute ecstatic for Tim Howard and Landon Donovan - if you look at Landon's Facebook you'll see nearly all Evertonians want him back here!!

The only problem is that his goal meant we now play Sunday afternoon instead of Saturday night here - its ruined a drunken night out here: the country stops when England is playing in the World Cup (probably 1 in 2 will watch the game)

However it has led to a full days drinkin on Sunday in the sunshine with a bbq and chance to beat the Krauts! :thumbsup:

oh... and the number one joke in the UK at the moment:
"This World Cup is turning out like World War II! The French have surrendered early, the Yanks have arrived at the last minute and we're left to fight the ****ing Germans!!"


Anyway good luck on Saturday, I, all Evertonians and I reckon most of the English will be rooting for ya!

USA! USA! USA!

I should have been more specific.

Of course those other places have alot to offer. Beautiful historic places and towns and some of them have great people. Spanish women? Wow!

The US offers a broader palette of things you can do with your finances, which in many cases (David Beckham, Jeurgen Klinsmann, Ruud Gullitt, etc., etc., etc.) has been the major attraction for high profile players. It has happened before that the worlds best played here, and it can happen again. :thumbsup:

WABronco
06-24-2010, 07:30 PM
Ljlsajdljsdlawdjoiajdnzczzxcz

Translation: when is Saturday comin'????

Chris
06-24-2010, 08:00 PM
I should have been more specific.

Of course those other places have alot to offer. Beautiful historic places and towns and some of them have great people. Spanish women? Wow!

The US offers a broader palette of things you can do with your finances, which in many cases (David Beckham, Jeurgen Klinsmann, Ruud Gullitt, etc., etc., etc.) has been the major attraction for high profile players. It has happened before that the worlds best played here, and it can happen again. :thumbsup:

Like what?

gyldenlove
06-24-2010, 08:13 PM
I should have been more specific.

Of course those other places have alot to offer. Beautiful historic places and towns and some of them have great people. Spanish women? Wow!

The US offers a broader palette of things you can do with your finances, which in many cases (David Beckham, Jeurgen Klinsmann, Ruud Gullitt, etc., etc., etc.) has been the major attraction for high profile players. It has happened before that the worlds best played here, and it can happen again. :thumbsup:

Klinsmann came to an easier league to end their careers, much like many players for a while ended up in Qatar to end their careers. Gullitt came over because he had worn his welcome out in Europe as a manager. It helps the league to respectability saying that these world class players were there and it gives the players a shot at a last bit of glory they could not achieve in a better league. Beckham is a different case, I am not sure of his specific reasons, but looking at how fast he bolted back to Europe I would say he didn't come for the food.

The one thing I have learned is that money travels a lot easier than checked luggage, even if you live in the most po-dunk town in Uzbekistan it is a pretty safe bet that if you a lot of money it is either in Switzerland, an off-shore account or active on NYSE or another big stock exchange. The kind of money players are making in Europe means it is entirely irrelevant where you are, whatever you want will come to you.

Kid A
06-24-2010, 08:35 PM
Regardless of your political affiliation, this is hilarious:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/500x_120238381-a7d3eaf515092f61bd952cc2d73b4bb3.4c23b238-full.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 08:36 PM
Klinsmann came to an easier league to end their careers, much like many players for a while ended up in Qatar to end their careers. Gullitt came over because he had worn his welcome out in Europe as a manager. It helps the league to respectability saying that these world class players were there and it gives the players a shot at a last bit of glory they could not achieve in a better league. Beckham is a different case, I am not sure of his specific reasons, but looking at how fast he bolted back to Europe I would say he didn't come for the food.

The one thing I have learned is that money travels a lot easier than checked luggage, even if you live in the most po-dunk town in Uzbekistan it is a pretty safe bet that if you a lot of money it is either in Switzerland, an off-shore account or active on NYSE or another big stock exchange. The kind of money players are making in Europe means it is entirely irrelevant where you are, whatever you want will come to you.

Beckham came over because he wanted in on MLS at the ground floor and wanted his family to live in LA. Land of opportunity, folks.

Atwater His Ass
06-24-2010, 08:38 PM
Beckham came to expose his brand to America. He didn't come for the soccer; he came to get exposure in LA.

Good business move, but ended up ruining his bid to play at this World Cup.

Beckham is a special case though, considering there isn't another soccer player in the world on his level in regards to his brand name and business interests outside of playing on the pitch.

Totally agree about the naming the league "MLS" though. Completely horrible name.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 08:42 PM
Regardless of your political affiliation, this is hilarious:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/500x_120238381-a7d3eaf515092f61bd952cc2d73b4bb3.4c23b238-full.jpg

I was impressed that Clinton understood what was going on in the game. The FIFA camera feed showed him sitting next to Sepp "Urinary" Blatter right after the Dempsey goal was taken away, and Bubba had this look of "I cant believe that just happened to us again" on his face while Urinary Blatter blabbed on about whatever he was brown-nosing the US president with in an attempt to ignore what had just happened on the field. A classic sports moment.

Maybe ol' Septic Blatter will brown-nose Clinton some more and approve our bid for the 2018 World Cup. He would be a moron not to after the reception that this cup has had here in the US. This is a country ready to host a world cup, and an announcement of that following this world cup would be received with alot of excitement here. Now's the time, Sepp. Do what you know you should.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 08:44 PM
Beckham came to expose his brand to America. He didn't come for the soccer; he came to get exposure in LA.

Good business move, but ended up ruining his bid to play at this World Cup.

Beckham is a special case though, considering there isn't another soccer player in the world on his level in regards to his brand name and business interests outside of playing on the pitch.

Totally agree about the naming the league "MLS" though. Completely horrible name.

Actually, his loan to Milan is what ruined his chances.

Beckham is now a stake holder in the LA Galaxy and in MLS. I would expect him to become a recruiter very soon.

Atwater His Ass
06-24-2010, 08:47 PM
Beckham's non-stop playing schedule over the last 2+ years is what caused him to miss the world cup. He doesn't go on loan to Milan and subject himself to that grueling schedule if he's already playing in a more respectable league than MLS.

I'm sure he'll laugh himself all the way to the bank in any case.

I love your optimism about soccer in America, but MLS is light years away from competeing for top tier talent on the world stage.

Chris
06-24-2010, 09:08 PM
Optimism is America's thing.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 09:10 PM
Beckham's non-stop playing schedule over the last 2+ years is what caused him to miss the world cup. He doesn't go on loan to Milan and subject himself to that grueling schedule if he's already playing in a more respectable league than MLS.

I'm sure he'll laugh himself all the way to the bank in any case.

I love your optimism about soccer in America, but MLS is light years away from competeing for top tier talent on the world stage.

10-20 years. It will happen after the next world cup in the US.

All of the success we have seen to this point can be attributed to the 1994 World Cup. Soccer has come a long way since I started playing in the early early 1980's. Its pretty astonishing.

It wont just be foreign talent that boosts MLS, it will be talent that arrives through the academies. Once those academies start scouting players from the Americas (already happening in conjunction with Brazilian clubs), the talent here is going to explode. Families of kids from other countries desperately need opportunity, and US clubs can offer them that.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 09:11 PM
Optimism is America's thing.

Yep. And we take that optimism and get results with it.

People have forgotten what we are, and this 2010 US team has reminded them.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 09:21 PM
Further to the point of the domestic league growth, we'll have a Round of 16 where European teams are outnumbered for the first time in World Cup history.

Post-World Cup Host domestic league growth can be correlated to this.
USA - Almost every US player has spent time in MLS
Japan - J league has produced players who have then gone to bigger clubs
South Korea - K league
Mexico
Uruguay

Soccer is becoming a global sport where pro leagues are refining the talent that used to peter out due to lack of exposure outside of Europe. The European leagues will be losing talent eventually if this trend continues.

Atwater His Ass
06-24-2010, 09:24 PM
10-20 years. It will happen after the next world cup in the US.

All of the success we have seen to this point can be attributed to the 1994 World Cup. Soccer has come a long way since I started playing in the early early 1980's. Its pretty astonishing.

It wont just be foreign talent that boosts MLS, it will be talent that arrives through the academies. Once those academies start scouting players from the Americas (already happening in conjunction with Brazilian clubs), the talent here is going to explode. Families of kids from other countries desperately need opportunity, and US clubs can offer them that.

The best MLS can hope for is a repuation similiar to leagues like Turkey, Portugal, Holland, Argentina, Brazil, etc. MLS will never be able to compete with the top leagues in the world, well, at least in the forseeable future.

Confused about your last statement. You claim it won't be just foreign talent that enters the league, but then go on to support that argument by saying it will be foreign talents from North/Central/South America that will boost the leauge?...

Although do agree MLS has a lot of room to grow, I think it's more than naive to think there is all this untapped talent that European and South American teams aren't already scouting.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 09:33 PM
The best MLS can hope for is a repuation similiar to leagues like Turkey, Portugal, Holland, Argentina, Brazil, etc. MLS will never be able to compete with the top leagues in the world, well, at least in the forseeable future.

Confused about your last statement. You claim it won't be just foreign talent that enters the league, but then go on to support that argument by saying it will be foreign talents from North/Central/South America that will boost the leauge?...

Although do agree MLS has a lot of room to grow, I think it's more than naive to think there is all this untapped talent that European and South American teams aren't already scouting.

I didnt go back and edit it. I meant to say that the MLS wont have to buy foreign talent that has come up through European academies.

There is already a pipeline built between certain clubs and Brazilian clubs like Flamengo. That talent ends up all over the world, and the MLS academies can and are competing with Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, and other countries in the Americas for players.

epicSocialism4tw
06-24-2010, 10:31 PM
Fabregas: USA can reach semi's, had most memorable game at World Cup

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...mi-finals.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/Fab_Column/3028863/Cesc-Fabregas-USA-can-reach-World-Cup-semi-finals.html)

Fabregas said: "The best moment for me at the World Cup so far was that nail biting end when the USA scored in the last minute against Algeria. It was an incredible finale and was the most memorable one for me.
"Everybody is talking about it. That was a great moment and they are a great team.
"We found that out when they beat us in the semi-finals of the Confederation Cup last year.
"So I wasn't surprised at all they finished top of the group. They are fit and strong and dangerous on the counter-attack.
"They have spirit too - they came from two goals down against Slovenia to get a draw and scored in injury time against Algeria to go through. The USA never give up. That's why I believe they can go much further because they fight to the end and work so hard.
"They are in a good side of the draw now - they have Ghana next, then maybe Uruguay in the quarter-finals.
"So I can see them reaching the semi-finals and then who knows what might happen."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0rpNM0fBy (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0rpNM0fBy)



Believe, folks. If Cesc Fabregas does, why cant you?

enjolras
06-24-2010, 11:00 PM
I'm excited.... everything now is playing with house money. They won their group.. and that's a huge step forward. Now every game is a huge bonus and a big chance for these players to advance the game in the U.S.

Oh...and can the MLS ever become a top-tier league? Absolutely it can. Never discount our economic power. The folks in charge of the MLS are growing the thing responsibly. With a bumper crop of really cool stadiums and ever increasing interest... they'll continue to have money to put into this. Look at what's going in Seattle where the MLS is absolutely huge. They're expanding into Portland which will embrace that team (the minor league team they have now is already a big draw) with arms wide open. Even here in Colorado I've seen increasing enthusiasm for the Rapids since that stadium was built....

I like the MLS's chances to be honest. Particularly if the U.S. national team continues to inch closer to winning a cup. The next big step: Get an MLS entry into the Champions League.

Atwater His Ass
06-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Economic power only works when people are interested and willing to spend money on tickets and merchandise. Until people in America begin to care about soccer in that fashion on a large enough basis, the league will remain a low tier league. There's nothing wrong with that, and MLS has taken a good approach in their business model to reflect the public's level of interested about soccer.

World Cups are fantastic and can continue to have a real positive effect on soccer in America. But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Most Americans treat the World Cup akin to the Olympics; a nice event we can all get behind every 4 years, and is just as easily forgotten when it's over. One of the best things for Americans is the timing of the World Cup, considering this is the "dead zone" time of the year for American sports.

Champions league? Really? Guess we are all entitiled to our pipe dreams. It will never work out ligistically, for one. Teams are not going to want to play a Home/Away series that involves flying over the Atlantic in an already packed out match schedule. MLS is about on par with the England Championship, if that (and there's a monumental jump from the Chapmionsip to the Premier League), and I would be surprised if an MLS team could even qualify for the group stage league proper, let alone have a chance to make to the knockout rounds.

ELEVATION
06-25-2010, 12:18 AM
Actually, his loan to Milan is what ruined his chances.

Beckham is now a stake holder in the LA Galaxy and in MLS. I would expect him to become a recruiter very soon.

There is talk of Thiery Henry coming to MLS as well in the next year or 2....in fact word in serie A and the premier league is alot of current players are talking about finishing there careers in MLS and doing loans like beckham is doing....

ELEVATION
06-25-2010, 12:21 AM
I'm excited.... everything now is playing with house money. They won their group.. and that's a huge step forward. Now every game is a huge bonus and a big chance for these players to advance the game in the U.S.

Oh...and can the MLS ever become a top-tier league? Absolutely it can. Never discount our economic power. The folks in charge of the MLS are growing the thing responsibly. With a bumper crop of really cool stadiums and ever increasing interest... they'll continue to have money to put into this. Look at what's going in Seattle where the MLS is absolutely huge. They're expanding into Portland which will embrace that team (the minor league team they have now is already a big draw) with arms wide open. Even here in Colorado I've seen increasing enthusiasm for the Rapids since that stadium was built....

I like the MLS's chances to be honest. Particularly if the U.S. national team continues to inch closer to winning a cup. The next big step: Get an MLS entry into the Champions League.


donovan and beckham were both talking about this last year, when donovan was with everton he mentioned that he belives the winner of MLS could challenge for a Champions league spot....the local media in england laughed but 1 guy said thats not such a bad idea....and said there isnt really any reason it shouldnt happen....if morep layers from Overseas leagues come to MLS then get loaned back to teams overseas during MLS off-season. I could easily see this becoming a reality....

Cleo McDowell
06-25-2010, 01:12 AM
Just another fan.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs044.ash2/35565_843965589065_3415366_47761339_1469868_n.jpg

http://imgnews.naver.com/image/003/2010/06/23/NISI20100623_0003059571_web.jpg

British Bronco
06-25-2010, 06:15 AM
I'd take three kicks to the balls from the World Cup player of your choice before I'd live in France. (If I got to pick, I'm going with a Denmark player 'cause he'd miss)

Spain I didn't see much of but the country smelled funny.

I would absolutely love to see more of England. Loved London but obviously the whole country isn't to be judged by visiting the tourist locations.

Just one question though, is your country done sucking? They'll get further if they play good. Just an observation :)

South of France is lovely, the people are horrible, but the country itself in places is nice - Spain, lovely place. London is a complete sh*thole in all honesty, especially in the centre - its a lot like the Ghetto. The North of England is far more welcoming and working class - I live in Liverpool which was European Capital of Culture in 2008. That being said, if I had chance to emigrate to Australia or New Zealand i'd be off like a shot - far nicer than here.

...and hopefully England is done sucking. We've had problems going forward, but defensively pretty solid - the only goal we conceded was because of Green's error on Dempseys shot. Sunday could go either way - if we turn up, we'll win.

By the way, British Bronco, since you undoubtedly watched your game. Did Slovenia seem content with the tie or were they playing that game for the win? When your game ended, they were still going through based on ties so I was curious if they thought they could do enough by not losing. Foolish move if so but I just didn't notice them doing anything crazy when I would glance at it during our game.
No, they never really pushed forward at all and seemed perfectly happy settling for the 1-0 loss, which was weird! Was a nervous watch towards the end though knowing if we conceded we were going out!

There is talk of Thiery Henry coming to MLS as well in the next year or 2....in fact word in serie A and the premier league is alot of current players are talking about finishing there careers in MLS and doing loans like beckham is doing....
Henry's legs have gone to be honest - he's finished.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 06:22 AM
No, they never really pushed forward at all and seemed perfectly happy settling for the 1-0 loss, which was weird! Was a nervous watch towards the end though knowing if we conceded we were going out!


Duh, I was thinking they tied but yes, a tie pushed them through while the loss did until we won. So the point still stands. They just got caught peeking at our game rather than worrying about winning theirs. Especially interesting considering it would've taken a 2-0 loss to England and a win by Algeria to change anything. They really had nothing, realistically, at risk by going for the tie or win. Instead they wanted to play it safe and bet against the US winning... how silly.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 06:46 AM
Michael Strahan is doing Sports Authority soccer commercials. Is there more evidence needed that the US is primed for a soccer celebrity?

bronco militia
06-25-2010, 06:50 AM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0623/soc_e_littonworldcup01_576.jpg

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:00 AM
Alright, Ivory coast needs Brazil to win and for the GD between Portugal and IC to close by 9. Something along the lines of a 3 point win by Brazil and a 6 point Ivory Coast win.

Not happening, so I'm just watching Portugal game for fun.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:13 AM
Ivory Coast got their first.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:20 AM
2nd for IC.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:21 AM
NK keeper didn't even try on the 2nd goal. Just let it go by.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:26 AM
Haha, Brazil player did an intentional handball and got a yellow and a Portugal player ran up to yell for a red and got a yellow of his own. Ref just turned around and showed it to the next player. It's amazing how different the standards are in carding players.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:26 AM
The patience that Brazil shows while possessing the ball is impressive. Would love to see Brazil crush Portugal! Morning All. Great Anniversary evening , last night. Moving a bit slow this AM, but am fired up for some quality soccer today!

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:30 AM
Off the post!

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:31 AM
Great call on the Dive by Portugal. That crap won't work for them against Brazil, for a change.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:33 AM
The patience that Brazil shows while possessing the ball is impressive. Would love to see Brazil crush Portugal! Morning All. Great Anniversary evening , last night. Moving a bit slow this AM, but am fired up for some quality soccer today!

You know it was a good evening when you're still moving slow the next day from it.

Brazil just hasn't gotten any opportunities on goal before that post shot. Been a back and forth game the whole time with cards providing the only entertainment.

On the Ivory Coast game, it's just a matter of whether IC can make up the goals necessary and if Brazil gets the win. IC has been dominating NK and, last I saw, was at 65% ball posession.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:34 AM
Great call on the Dive by Portugal. That crap won't work for them against Brazil, for a change.

It was. I thought it was a legit penalty on first look but the replay showed it was clearly a dive. Good call by the ref and the card was icing. This ref isn't messing around, it's hillarious.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:36 AM
This game is starting to get chippy. I forgot how much they dislike each other.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:38 AM
This game is starting to get chippy. I forgot how much they dislike each other.

I wonder if there's a benefit in the fact that they can talk trash to each other. Most teams can only vaguely, I'd imagine, but these teams can let it fly.

Brazil is getting closer, they're coming up just short of solid socring opportunities. Just need a lucky bounce here or there and we'll probably be looking at 1-0. Portugal just not threatening the same.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:39 AM
Brazil transition from buildup to attack to shot sooooooo quickly. Fun to watch.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:40 AM
Haha.. the magic sponge. Never heard that before.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:43 AM
'Bout time they carded that fella. He's been playing like a hockey player out there.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:43 AM
Haha.. the magic sponge. Never heard that before.

That was great....

Nice full body check there... there are going to be a ton of cards in this game, me thinks......

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Any yellows that don't require suspension (as in, being the 2nd) get erased after this, right?

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Ronaldo is turning into a ball hog from hell in this game.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Running to the store, they better not start until I get back!

Rock Chalk
06-25-2010, 07:47 AM
ALl you have to do is watch BRazil, Portugal, and Spain and you can see the USA has a LONG way to go to be on that level.

USA probably has more heart than any team in the world but the talent just isn't on teh same level as the elite teams.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 07:50 AM
Any yellows that don't require suspension (as in, being the 2nd) get erased after this, right?

I'm not so sure about that. I was going to pose that question this morning myself. They made it sound yesterday like they slate didn't get wiped clean this time due to the "headhunting" games of the past (Portugal vs Netherlands). I'll be looking for some input from the gents that are a bit more on top of the finer rule points.....

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:12 AM
ALl you have to do is watch BRazil, Portugal, and Spain and you can see the USA has a LONG way to go to be on that level.

USA probably has more heart than any team in the world but the talent just isn't on teh same level as the elite teams.

Whatever RC. In last year's pre cup tourney, the US was beating Brazil 2-0 and were looking really good doing it. Not as Looooong a way as you may think. How 'bout we give it a rest until after the US is out?

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:15 AM
Pretty build-up on that play by Brazil...Better hurry up at the store, TOG. I feel a goal coming...

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:16 AM
Well, made it back and only missed 10 minutes of play. How women can shop those places without an f'ing treasure map is beyond me.

And on Ronaldo, they actually talked before the game about how they were afraid he might start making this about him and worrying about getting a goal too much. Looks like they kinda called that one if things are still like the first half.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:20 AM
The game is really starting to open up. Frankly, the Brazillians look susceptible in the back and at keeper (injured back) to me. Portugal is a great counter-attacking team (much like the US) and Brazil has dodged a couple of bullets in the past few min.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:22 AM
The game is really starting to open up. Frankly, the Brazillians look susceptible in the back and at keeper (injured back) to me. Portugal is a great counter-attacking team (much like the US) and Brazil has dodged a couple of bullets in the past few min.

Definitely has turned, I was just thinking that. Brazil wasn't getting shots but were controlling the ball earlier and now Portugal ball movement has fixed itself and they're holding it a lot more. If you can win balls in the air and move it around until something opens up, you can win any game.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:24 AM
Ronaldo... what a wimp.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:25 AM
That ball dove quicker than the guy kicking it does. Awesome touch and control to do that.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:28 AM
That ball dove quicker than the guy kicking it does. Awesome touch and control to do that.

Heh heh heh LOL

SonOfLe-loLang
06-25-2010, 08:30 AM
Whatever RC. In last year's pre cup tourney, the US was beating Brazil 2-0 and were looking really good doing it. Not as Looooong a way as you may think. How 'bout we give it a rest until after the US is out?

No, its long. You never know in soccer because all it takes is one goal sometimes, but the US relies on its athleticism and doesnt NEAR have the ball skills of Brazil, Spain, Portugal, Argentina etc. In the confed cup, Brazil clearly sleep walked through the first half and then decided to actually play in the 2nd and they completely dominated us. They are (largely because of Kaka) incredibly creative within the box with crisp passes and ball control. Fabiano is a master with the ball. As good as Donovan is, he doesnt even come close to comparing to those guys. Ever notice how the US scores goals? Try to outrun guys and blitz the goal tender. Or Pop the ball up and hope someone can head it in. Now, look at Brazil's three goals against the Ivory Coast. Whens the last time youve seen America score goals like that when they werent playing teams like Belize.

AlienBronco
06-25-2010, 08:32 AM
Any yellows that don't require suspension (as in, being the 2nd) get erased after this, right?

My understanding, is that yellow cards will count until end of final eight round.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:37 AM
My understanding, is that yellow cards will count until end of final eight round.

Wow, that's rough. People are gonna be missing games more as the game's importance grows.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:37 AM
My understanding, is that yellow cards will count until end of final eight round.

That is what I thought I heard. Good. Prevents these sometimes meaningless third group games from dissolving into a foul fest.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:37 AM
We could've easily seen a broken leg on that Baptiste tackle right there. Lucky he got up and rolled rather than let his cleats stick.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:42 AM
IC got their 4th but it was taken back. Too little too late at this point. They went most of the 2nd half witout scoring when they needed them bad.

Taco John
06-25-2010, 08:43 AM
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That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:46 AM
Well I guess that is a way to get someone to stop blowing their horn.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:48 AM
Freakin' IC has had at least 2 goals taken back due to a playing being offsides by a couple feet. In a game where they needed every point they could get, that's unexcusable.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 08:48 AM
Right when I was thinking Brazil has nothing to play for, they almost get the score. Great save.

Dutch
06-25-2010, 08:54 AM
Pretty ugly game in the second half. You could actually hear booing over the Vuvu's at the end.....

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 09:03 AM
Well, both teams advanced with a draw. Neither really needed a win. No matter the results, they'd face harder today than next week unless they get Spain which is about on par.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-25-2010, 09:18 AM
Go Chile, force the Spainish to play Brazil in the Round of 16.

Chris
06-25-2010, 10:24 AM
If Chile and Switzerland win spain goes home no?

Chris
06-25-2010, 10:34 AM
The people in the south of France are the nicest people in the country, partly because of the Italian influence, partly because of good weather. Most french people are very nice you just have to understand the culture (it helps that you make an effort in French).

In France, you can have a conversation about gas station philosophy with a gas station attendant. My mother did after she was being hit on by a guy in his 30s (she's in her 60s). That's France.

I realise I just used my mother getting hit on to advertise a country but trust me... there is so much to offer. France also has the most natural variety of any country in Western Europe.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:04 AM
If Chile and Switzerland win spain goes home no?

Correct. Also, if Spain and Swiss win and there's a 2-0 game in there anywhere, Chile goes home. Should finally be some real competition today after the morning games were played for ties.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:09 AM
The people in the south of France are the nicest people in the country, partly because of the Italian influence, partly because of good weather. Most french people are very nice you just have to understand the culture (it helps that you make an effort in French).

In France, you can have a conversation about gas station philosophy with a gas station attendant. My mother did after she was being hit on by a guy in his 30s (she's in her 60s). That's France.

I realise I just used my mother getting hit on to advertise a country but trust me... there is so much to offer. France also has the most natural variety of any country in Western Europe.

I've only been in the citier portions of France except for some French kids I met near the Belgium border. Everyone I met in France seemed to have a.. almost a snooty or arrogance about them. Almost as if they were bragging or something that we were visiting their country. It wasn't because it was the greatest country on earth, just wanted to see it. Ran into that a couple times.

Now, that's been ~12 years since I've been there though so I just may be remembering the ones I didn't like. I'm sure I didn't meet everyone personality in the country.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:16 AM
They just had across the bottom on ESPN that 2 of 4 goals for US have come after 75th minute of play while 2 of 3 goals against have come in first 15 minutes of play.

Beantown Bronco
06-25-2010, 11:27 AM
Between Spain, France, Italy, Germany and Holland.....France was my least favorite. The people there were the least friendly to me, the train workers decided to strike while I was trying to travel there, there were several bomb scares that shut down half the stuff I wanted to see, and the food was nothing to write home about.

Irish Stout
06-25-2010, 11:29 AM
I've only been in the citier portions of France except for some French kids I met near the Belgium border. Everyone I met in France seemed to have a.. almost a snooty or arrogance about them. Almost as if they were bragging or something that we were visiting their country. It wasn't because it was the greatest country on earth, just wanted to see it. Ran into that a couple times.

Now, that's been ~12 years since I've been there though so I just may be remembering the ones I didn't like. I'm sure I didn't meet everyone personality in the country.

Typically, people in Paris are stuck up and not that friendly. Waiters are ruder for sure. However, I got the same feeling in New York city too... people just want to keep on with their own lives.

However, I have found some of the friendliest cops in Paris and I could break down most Parisians cold shoulders simply by trying to communicate with them in a little french. Outside of Paris, in the smaller towns, they're incredibly nice, but they don't like it when you get really drunk and sing ****ty kareoke in their bars.

Irish Stout
06-25-2010, 11:30 AM
Between Spain, France, Italy, Germany and Holland.....France was my least favorite. The people there were the least friendly to me, the train workers decided to strike while I was trying to travel there, there were several bomb scares that shut down half the stuff I wanted to see, and the food was nothing to write home about.

I agree the food in France isn't that great. Why does everyone always talk about French cooking?

SonOfLe-loLang
06-25-2010, 11:31 AM
Between Spain, France, Italy, Germany and Holland.....France was my least favorite. The people there were the least friendly to me, the train workers decided to strike while I was trying to travel there, there were several bomb scares that shut down half the stuff I wanted to see, and the food was nothing to write home about.

Bad food in france? You went to the wrong places then! haha. now, bad food in scandinavia, eastern europe sure....But france???

Irish Stout
06-25-2010, 11:32 AM
Anyone have any recommendations about where to watch the USA game tomorrow in Denver? Fados will be insane, but looking for something like that with maybe a patio where we can watch the game on tvs, yet still be outside. Drink specials help too.

Also, did the Tilted Kilt take over where the ESPNZone used to be?

Smiling Assassin27
06-25-2010, 11:42 AM
Chile's got some serious speed.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:43 AM
Chile looking very good so far.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:47 AM
For the Swiss being the assumed winner of that game (and still probably will be), they need to stop letting Honduras play on their doorstep. Bad things happen when you let lesser teams hang around.

Smiling Assassin27
06-25-2010, 11:49 AM
Chile looking very good so far.

Making Spain make their moves quicker than they'd like. I wonder if they can pressure like this the whole game. They are getting their chances, so Iker had better be on his game.

That One Guy
06-25-2010, 11:49 AM
That Ponce is lucky he only got a yellow, that's similar to a red from the other day.