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Kid A
06-12-2010, 10:02 PM
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strafen
06-12-2010, 10:11 PM
All I know is this...
At the end of the day, it will be Brazil the one to win it all...

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2010, 10:45 PM
I don't know about that, the top teams in the concacaf are not bad, but outside of the top 2 or 3 teams it seems pretty slim. USA, Mexico and maybe one more team from the concacaf would be able to qualify through the UEFA system, I doubt more than that could even get close.

The region generally is contested by these teams: US, Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad and Tobago, Honduras, and to a lesser extent El Salvador and occasionally Canada.

All of those squads are somewhat underrated, but the real issue has to due with away games. In CONCACAF you play away games in rickety stadia that vibrate during games. You arrive to games with armed military convoys who protect you against masses of people whipped into near-riot fervor. You get dressed in a dressing room that shakes before the game from the bouncing stadium. Then you get doused with urine and vomit thrown on you from the stands during the game. Those games are not easy, but they cultivate focus and mental strength.

Jens1893
06-13-2010, 04:48 AM
Carragher was getting beat down the field by Findley and elbowed him square in the throat right in the middle of the open field. Im still wondering how the refs missed that one. Should have been at least a yellow, which would have sent Carragher off.

I meant that one. Wasn´t sure whether it was Findley or Altidore.

Garcia Bronco
06-13-2010, 06:41 AM
I still can't believe we tied England. In the past year we have beat number 1 and tied number 6. We are getting better out there.

GoBroncos DownUnder
06-13-2010, 06:53 AM
Australia V Germany today ... I'll probably be drinking with a bunch of Irish/English ... Looking forward to counting the poor taste WW2 references! ;)

British Bronco
06-13-2010, 07:03 AM
Well at least you all saw the whole game - in the UK, the National Station showin the game messed up and started showing an advert for 40 seconds, and missed the goal entirely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYy9NG8Iyw&feature=youtu.be

Abysmal!!

elsid13
06-13-2010, 07:11 AM
USA got to win on Thursday, Slovenia victory today hurt us.

theAPAOps5
06-13-2010, 07:21 AM
USA got to win on Thursday, Slovenia victory today hurt us.

Yeah USA should win but Slovenia winning didn't hurt us. Algeria winning wouldn't have made it any less important. Getting a tie with England is a win for USA as they were supposed to lose.

If the US lost to England then it would be dire for them to win. They should win against both Slovenia and Algeria which should get them through.

The Joker
06-13-2010, 07:22 AM
US and England will both go through comfortably I would bet, both Algeria and Slovenia looked awful today.

elsid13
06-13-2010, 07:27 AM
Yeah USA should win but Slovenia winning didn't hurt us. Algeria winning wouldn't have made it any less important. Getting a tie with England is a win for USA as they were supposed to lose.

If the US lost to England then it would be dire for them to win. They should win against both Slovenia and Algeria which should get them through.

You can never count on a win, Slovenia been playing with house money for awhile and that scares me.

theAPAOps5
06-13-2010, 07:31 AM
You can never count on a win, Slovenia been playing with house money for awhile and that scares me.

I know thats why I said should win rather than will win. My point is Slovenia winning didn't hurt the US at all. Nothing changed, all the US has to do is go out and win the games they are supposed to win and they are in the second round.

The one thing that worries me is Howard's ribs. The team thinks they aren't broken but they are going to reevaluate. He had to take a shot for the second half. He definitely saved USA's bacon.

Garcia Bronco
06-13-2010, 07:41 AM
I am watching Serbia and Ghana. Ghana is the biggest bunch of flopping labias

The Joker
06-13-2010, 07:43 AM
A draw and a two goal win from the their last two games would guarantee qualification for the US.

You guys will be fine, and so will England.

elsid13
06-13-2010, 07:50 AM
I know thats why I said should win rather than will win. My point is Slovenia winning didn't hurt the US at all. Nothing changed, all the US has to do is go out and win the games they are supposed to win and they are in the second round.

The one thing that worries me is Howard's ribs. The team thinks they aren't broken but they are going to reevaluate. He had to take a shot for the second half. He definitely saved USA's bacon.

Howard was the man, but I am not worried about the goalie position, that one spot were we have world class depth. I am more concerned with how bad the back line played yesterday. They weren't paying attention and communicating.

eddie mac
06-13-2010, 08:40 AM
Ghana about to win this???

1-0 up penalty. Serbia down to 10 men.

DBruleU
06-13-2010, 08:43 AM
What a stupid mistake by the Serbian defender. Why do you go in for a header with your hands and arms above your head?

The Joker
06-13-2010, 08:44 AM
Some unbelievably retarded football going on out there today.

The Joker
06-13-2010, 08:45 AM
What a stupid mistake by the Serbian defender. Why do you go in for a header with your hands and arms above your head?

Because he planned to use his hand.

I really don't know what goes through these people's heads. Did he think the referee wouldn't see it or something?

eddie mac
06-13-2010, 08:45 AM
Poor games from average teams. TBH I haven't been really that impressed with any team as of yet. Argentina showed some flashes but in truth Nigeria could've got a draw in that game cos they dominated the 2nd half.

s0phr0syne
06-13-2010, 09:19 AM
Don't know much about the Ghana team, but I came away impressed by them today. They show a lot of tenacity and individual skills with the ball. Don't know enough to comment on them as far as team tactics go.

gyldenlove
06-13-2010, 10:11 AM
The region generally is contested by these teams: US, Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad and Tobago, Honduras, and to a lesser extent El Salvador and occasionally Canada.

All of those squads are somewhat underrated, but the real issue has to due with away games. In CONCACAF you play away games in rickety stadia that vibrate during games. You arrive to games with armed military convoys who protect you against masses of people whipped into near-riot fervor. You get dressed in a dressing room that shakes before the game from the bouncing stadium. Then you get doused with urine and vomit thrown on you from the stands during the game. Those games are not easy, but they cultivate focus and mental strength.

That is not really that much different from playing in Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Armenia or Moldova, or even playing fall games in Iceland or the Faeroe Islands where games can end up resembling mud wrestling.

US, Mexico and Costa Rica have all proven to be good squads in the world cup (at least most of the time). But I still contest that with 2 games against Barbardos, Cuba and Guatemala there is ample opportunity to run up some truly crazy scores, although those teams probably do have a pretty big homefield advantage thanks to the "quality" of their facilities.

gyldenlove
06-13-2010, 10:12 AM
Don't know much about the Ghana team, but I came away impressed by them today. They show a lot of tenacity and individual skills with the ball. Don't know enough to comment on them as far as team tactics go.

Ghana is a pretty good team, they were decent in Germany as well. Their struggles used to be in goal and tactical play, but offensively they are very good.

OABB
06-13-2010, 11:48 AM
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elsid13
06-13-2010, 12:00 PM
Germans looking good. More aggressive style then I remember them playing.

DBruleU
06-13-2010, 12:05 PM
Yeah the Germans are looking real good so far. Granted it's Australia, but still, great ball movement so far.

gyldenlove
06-13-2010, 12:16 PM
Germans looking good. More aggressive style then I remember them playing.

The germans have a lot of good possession players, they are going to be looking to control the ball and use their passing to open up the game.

s0phr0syne
06-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Good possession midfield combined with some really darting strikers. Good combination.

brncs_fan
06-13-2010, 12:45 PM
A solid performance by the Germans may be marred by an offsides non-call on their first goal and a red card that wasn't necessary.

Baba Booey
06-13-2010, 12:54 PM
Germany looks like a well-oiled machine.

Meck77
06-13-2010, 12:55 PM
Australia getting worked. 3-0 germany.

Meck77
06-13-2010, 12:56 PM
Check that. Now 4-0

epicSocialism4tw
06-13-2010, 12:59 PM
You can never count on a win, Slovenia been playing with house money for awhile and that scares me.

I DVR'ed the game and watched it a while ago. Neither team impressed me, but both of them will be looking at the US game as one they can steal.

Slovenia's counter-attacking is good, but they dont have outstanding athletes. Their #10 is their most important player. For them to draw with the US, their keeper will have to have the kind of game Howard had yesterday, and they'll have to be unflappable on set pieces. For them to win, they'll have to add to the aforementioned a counterattack that strikes at least twice. I wasnt impressed with their defense at all, and they'll have real trouble with Altidore. Mike Bradley will be an important player in this game, as he'll have the oportunity to make late runs that result in goals. I think he'll get one. Donovan could shred them in this game too, as I dont see a player that can keep up with him on the wings.

Algeria present other kinds of problems for this game. When I talk to arab friends of mine about the world cup, they seem to think that Algeria will beat the US handily. There is this kind of "down with the Great Satan" muslim collective desire for Algeria to beat the US. Algeria are the only arab muslim nation in the World Cup. However, I didnt see anything that scared me about that team other than the fact that if they lose one of their fans might run into the stands with a bomb. They have some creativity in the midfield and a decent striker up top, but they arent a smart team at all. The US could win that game 3-0.

gyldenlove
06-13-2010, 01:14 PM
A solid performance by the Germans may be marred by an offsides non-call on their first goal and a red card that wasn't necessary.

The german was 2 or 3 steps on side on the first goal because there was an Aussie napping in the penalty box, Klose was in an off-side position but had no influence on the play so it was a correct call. The red card was definitely too harsh, should have been a yellow.

The Joker
06-13-2010, 01:26 PM
First genuinely impressive performance of the tournament.

Germans very impressive.

Aussies were absolutely woeful though, can see them losing their next two games as well on today's evidence.

That One Guy
06-13-2010, 01:43 PM
I got to enjoy playing in the sprinkler with the boy for most of the 2nd half... what was the red card for??

brncs_fan
06-13-2010, 01:54 PM
I got to enjoy playing in the sprinkler with the boy for most of the 2nd half... what was the red card for??

Aggressive tackle. Probably should have been a yellow.

WABronco
06-13-2010, 01:59 PM
Love watching Germany...they're so technically sound.

Also pretty awesome that they have a Brazilian on their team with a sweet name. CACAU

gyldenlove
06-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Man it looked like Australia thought they were Poland today, that was some old fashioned pwnage

Jens1893
06-13-2010, 02:37 PM
Love watching Germany...they're so technically sound.

Also pretty awesome that they have a Brazilian on their team with a sweet name. CACAU

His proper name is Helmut.

serious insider alert

GoBroncos DownUnder
06-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Germany celebrated their world cup win by getting drunk in a beer hall putsch then followed on by invading Poland ... again!
;)

Requiem
06-13-2010, 04:32 PM
Go Netherlands.

DBruleU
06-13-2010, 05:10 PM
Australia is done. No way they advance now. They got destroyed, and they are down their best player, Cahill, for the next match, plus not having Kewell hurts.

Looking forward to seeing Netherlands early tomorrow. It's where my ancestors immigrated (legally) from.

brncs_fan
06-13-2010, 05:51 PM
I will be on my way to work when the game starts and Direct TV doesn't have ESPN Classic in its basic package (and I will be damned if I am giving those crooks another dime than I have to). I will have to get the updates via web later.

epicSocialism4tw
06-13-2010, 08:10 PM
I will be on my way to work when the game starts and Direct TV doesn't have ESPN Classic in its basic package (and I will be damned if I am giving those crooks another dime than I have to). I will have to get the updates via web later.

go here: espn3.com

All World Cup games are available on that website for free. :yayaya:

Houshyamama
06-13-2010, 08:11 PM
hijacking this from Reddit...

BPs latest failed attempt to stop the leak:

http://i.imgur.com/c30py.png

brncs_fan
06-13-2010, 08:12 PM
go here: espn3.com

All World Cup games are available on that website for free. :yayaya:

Thanks!

brncs_fan
06-13-2010, 08:22 PM
Stewards protest low pay

DURBAN, South Africa -- Armed riot police charged into hundreds of security stewards at a World Cup stadium hours after Sunday's match to break up a protest about low wages.

Police appeared to set off two percussive grenades, causing loud bangs, to drive the workers out of a parking lot under the Moses Mabhida Stadium in Durban hours after Germany beat Australia 4-0 in Group D.

Associated Press reporters saw about 30 riot police charge into the crowd to drive it out of the stadium. While calm quickly returned to the stadium, some of the security stewards, wearing orange and green jackets, continued milling around outside.

An AP photographer said police fired tear gas at protesters outside the stadium. A nearby street was littered with trash where the protesters were forced away. Concrete blocks had been pushed into a street.

About 100 police later surrounded a group of about 300 protesters on a street near the stadium and separated the men from the women. An AP photographer said he heard police tell the protesters they would be arrested for causing a public disturbance.

The protesters later left peacefully after discussions with police. There were no injuries or arrests reported.

More of the Story (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5282826/ce/us/riot-police-clash-protesters-durban-south-africa-germany-australia-match&cc=5901?ver=us)

chrisp
06-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Carragher was getting beat down the field by Findley and elbowed him square in the throat right in the middle of the open field. Im still wondering how the refs missed that one. Should have been at least a yellow, which would have sent Carragher off.

That's becuase Carra is old and slow, but experienced, and knows when the refs are watching and when they are not.... :-)

chrisp
06-14-2010, 01:44 AM
As you can tell by the result of today's game, the US' qualifying group is tougher than Euro's understand it to be for reasons that they dont understand.

Actually there's mumch more parity in world football than there used to be 20-30 years ago...

In the 70's and 80's some of the lesser teams in the world cup finals were comprised of players who did not play regularly to the same standard as the top teams.

Now, even the supposedly 'weak' teams are comprised of players who play in the same leagues as the top players such as the premiership, Bundesliga or the Spanish and Italian first divisions...the stronger teams are still favoured but the gulf is far less than it used to be...

The Joker
06-14-2010, 03:45 AM
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1193/greenbynature.jpg

It's not easy being Green.





http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/tumblr_l3xladWDT81qzpwi0o1_250.gif

Dutch
06-14-2010, 05:04 AM
Go Netherlands.

This

Dutch
06-14-2010, 05:08 AM
Australia is done. No way they advance now. They got destroyed, and they are down their best player, Cahill, for the next match, plus not having Kewell hurts.

Looking forward to seeing Netherlands early tomorrow. It's where my ancestors immigrated (legally) from.

And this.

As my Dad likes to say, half the family came over on the boat (from the Netherlands) and the other half met 'em when they got here (Cherokee).

I enjoy watching the attacking style of the Dutch. I would love to see them play Germany.

Dutch
06-14-2010, 05:34 AM
Great play by Van Persie. Hopefully this will open up the game. Both teams looked a bit tentative in the first half.

The Joker
06-14-2010, 05:45 AM
Been a bit disappointed by the Dutch, they're my dark horses but they look a bit flat in all honesty.

They'll need Robben back if they're going to make some serious noise, stick him out wide and get Van Der Vaart back playing more centrally.

Dutch
06-14-2010, 05:56 AM
What, in the first half of the first game? These two teams know each other VERY well. Last 6 games produced 5 ties. They all play in the same leagues. I think it was just a matter of being cautious by both sides in the first. Things look to be opening up a bit here in the second.

Kid A
06-14-2010, 08:16 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3ynamVU8X1qzynolo1_400.png

The Joker
06-14-2010, 08:21 AM
The vuvuzela's are setting people's perceptions of Africa back decades.

Woeful things, they should never be allowed host anything again... EVER.

Beantown Bronco
06-14-2010, 08:32 AM
Am I missing something re: the horns? In my entire adult life, I honestly can't remember ever watching a World Cup match.....or any other international match really....where these things weren't heard loud and clear over the tv. Why is it just now becoming an issue as if this was the first time anyone has ever heard these things? This goes waaaaaaay back and has happened everywhere. Not just S Africa.

Hell, when I lived in Spain over 10 years ago, I never went to a match that didn't have an entire section of the stands filled by people with not only horns, but fullsize drums. They beat on those things all game long.

gyldenlove
06-14-2010, 08:54 AM
Am I missing something re: the horns? In my entire adult life, I honestly can't remember ever watching a World Cup match.....or any other international match really....where these things weren't heard loud and clear over the tv. Why is it just now becoming an issue as if this was the first time anyone has ever heard these things? This goes waaaaaaay back and has happened everywhere. Not just S Africa.

Hell, when I lived in Spain over 10 years ago, I never went to a match that didn't have an entire section of the stands filled by people with not only horns, but fullsize drums. They beat on those things all game long.

You should try Northern Europe, they don't allow those horns, it goes back to the compressed aircan horns people used to drag along to every sporting event.

The Joker
06-14-2010, 08:56 AM
Am I missing something re: the horns? In my entire adult life, I honestly can't remember ever watching a World Cup match.....or any other international match really....where these things weren't heard loud and clear over the tv. Why is it just now becoming an issue as if this was the first time anyone has ever heard these things? This goes waaaaaaay back and has happened everywhere. Not just S Africa.

Hell, when I lived in Spain over 10 years ago, I never went to a match that didn't have an entire section of the stands filled by people with not only horns, but fullsize drums. They beat on those things all game long.

Considering these things were only invented a few years ago, it's fair to say that you are missing something, yes.

Drums and the odd bell or horn have been heard at games before, yes. Singing has always been a big thing amongst football supporters and drums and other musical instruments have been used to help get chants started or add to them.

But the whole idea of thousands of them screeching away randomly at the same time to the point that everything else is drowned out completely is almost completely foreign to the game, and only came to the fore at last year's Confederation's Cup, which was also played in South Africa.

Beantown Bronco
06-14-2010, 09:00 AM
Considering these things were only invented a few years ago, it's fair to say that you are missing something, yes.


These particular horns, perhaps....though I can remember getting VERY similar horns as a kid at the freaking circus or disney on ice or some other such thing when I was a kid over 20 years ago. Regardless, I'm talking horns in general, which were invented hundreds of years ago and could be heard at soccer matches WELL in advance of "a few years ago".

Beantown Bronco
06-14-2010, 09:02 AM
Considering these things were only invented a few years ago, it's fair to say that you are missing something, yes.


Wow. All it took was 30 seconds to prove this one wrong. These date back to the 1970s....so apparently, I'm not missing anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela

bronco militia
06-14-2010, 09:07 AM
These particular horns, perhaps....though I can remember getting VERY similar horns as a kid at the freaking circus or disney on ice or some other such thing when I was a kid over 20 years ago. Regardless, I'm talking horns in general, which were invented hundreds of years ago and could be heard at soccer matches WELL in advance of "a few years ago".

these horns have been around forever.....at least the the late 70's. I always got one at our local town parade in Ventura, CA

bronco militia
06-14-2010, 09:07 AM
Wow. All it took was 30 seconds to prove this one wrong. These date back to the 1970s....so apparently, I'm not missing anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela

LOL...thanks.

bronco militia
06-14-2010, 09:09 AM
hell, I remember the LA Dodgers giving them to fans on a few occasions

The Joker
06-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Fair enough they were originally invented back in the 70's, honestly didn't know that. The plastic ones though, which are what are being used at this tournament, are a recent phenomena. Certainly on the scale we're seeing at this World Cup anyway.

And yes, I'm afraid that your point about this deafening swarm of bees having being present at every game in the history of football is wrong. Check any of the other World Cups ever, as a starting point.

Beantown Bronco
06-14-2010, 09:25 AM
And yes, I'm afraid that your point about this deafening swarm of bees having being present at every game in the history of football is wrong. Check any of the other World Cups ever, as a starting point.

Huh? Exaggerate much? When was that ever my point?

The Joker
06-14-2010, 09:40 AM
Huh? Exaggerate much? When was that ever my point?

Why exactly are you surprised that it's an issue all of a sudden then?

Dutch
06-14-2010, 10:22 AM
Fair enough they were originally invented back in the 70's, honestly didn't know that. The plastic ones though, which are what are being used at this tournament, are a recent phenomena. Certainly on the scale we're seeing at this World Cup anyway.

And yes, I'm afraid that your point about this deafening swarm of bees having being present at every game in the history of football is wrong. Check any of the other World Cups ever, as a starting point.

Nah Bro', the plastic ones are the same as the 70's model. Used to win them at the Arvada Harvest Festival carny every year. As for the noise. Quit being a Euro snob about it. Every League in the world has its own version of this home field advantage. CONCACAF, South America, Asia, and even most of Europe have the same kind of noise level going on. I will agree that the note of those things is particularly grating on the nerves! :blowhorn: That said, I am not suprised that Japan won against Camaroon. I used to play Base team against the Japanese and they were a tough opponent. Relentless and quick as hell.

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 11:32 AM
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Hercules Rockefeller
06-14-2010, 12:10 PM
Great set piece by Paraguay

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 12:29 PM
Great set piece by Paraguay

Indeed. Italy are so technically sound but dull to watch, when they go a goal down that's when their games get interesting. Should be a good second half. Already looking forward to the group of death games tomorrow!

BlaK-Argentina
06-14-2010, 01:27 PM
Great game! I love Italy, always rooting for them. They almost always will themselves to scores when they need them.

Rich Karlis
06-14-2010, 01:42 PM
Italy got a lucky break right there. I have no idea what the Paraguay keeper was thinking on that ball. If your playing keeper and you move out to make a play on a ball you better make damn sure you at least touch the ball.

BlaK-Argentina
06-14-2010, 01:44 PM
Italy got a lucky break right there. I have no idea what the Paraguay keeper was thinking on that ball. If your playing keeper and you move out to make a play on a ball you better make damn sure you at least touch the ball.

Well Paraguay scored off a free kick that never should have been so... :wave:Ha!

azbroncfan
06-14-2010, 01:50 PM
So I gave the world cup a chance and can't get past the annoying ass horns or the announcers voice and it sucks to watch sports on mute.

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 02:00 PM
So I gave the world cup a chance and can't get past the annoying ass horns or the announcers voice and it sucks to watch sports on mute.

All I can tell you is the WC starts very slowly and gets very exciting after the 1st round of games. But seriously good on you for giving it a go.

epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2010, 03:01 PM
I'm not impressed with Italy.

Plus, I really just dont like them very much. Mainly because their league is (has been) corrupt and they throw tantrums when things dont go their way. Dirty players.

Dutch
06-14-2010, 03:48 PM
I'm not impressed with Italy.

Plus, I really just dont like them very much. Mainly because their league is (has been) corrupt and they throw tantrums when things dont go their way. Dirty players.

This. I'd be perfectly happy to see Italy, Greece (HATE the "style" of game they play), and Mexico gone for the next round.

azbroncfan
06-14-2010, 03:59 PM
All I can tell you is the WC starts very slowly and gets very exciting after the 1st round of games. But seriously good on you for giving it a go.

I still will watch the US matches and I like the no commercials but I was like what the hell is that noise when I first turned it on.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 04:32 PM
I still will watch the US matches and I like the no commercials but I was like what the hell is that noise when I first turned it on.

I too am trying to give it a go.
And I STILL don't know what that annoying noise is.
Thought it was the television at first. Sounds like a beehive or something.

I guess I'll try to give it another chance (saw part of the U.S. game and most of the game today) but that sound is really irritating.

So what is it and when does our team play again?

epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2010, 04:36 PM
I too am trying to give it a go.
And I STILL don't know what that annoying noise is.
Thought it was the television at first. Sounds like a beehive or something.

I guess I'll try to give it another chance (saw part of the U.S. game and most of the game today) but that sound is really irritating.

So what is it and when does our team play again?

Our next game is HUGE. Its more important than the England game.

6/18 at 9am CT against Slovenia. On either ABC or ESPN.

BlaK-Argentina
06-14-2010, 05:00 PM
I'm not impressed with Italy.

Plus, I really just dont like them very much. Mainly because their league is (has been) corrupt and they throw tantrums when things dont go their way. Dirty players.

Psst, they don't try to impress. They just win. They are the classic clutch time team. Even if you don't like them you have to respect them. You can never count them out.

And what soccer player doesn't throw tantrums? Please!!

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 05:33 PM
Our next game is HUGE. Its more important than the England game.

6/18 at 9am CT against Slovenia. On either ABC or ESPN.

Thanks brother. I'll check it out for sure.
Why so long between games? Isn't that kinda weird?
I mean how long is the tournament? It's gotta be REALLY long with that much time between games.

Also I really do wanna know what that sound is?
The constant beehive type noise. What and why?

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 05:45 PM
Someone's gotta know what that awful noise is right?

Come on peeps. Help me out here.

epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2010, 05:52 PM
Thanks brother. I'll check it out for sure.
Why so long between games? Isn't that kinda weird?
I mean how long is the tournament? It's gotta be REALLY long with that much time between games.

Also I really do wanna know what that sound is?
The constant beehive type noise. What and why?

The "group stage" is a round-robin format beginning stage to the tournament and there are so many games that they spread them out. It allows some rest between games and allows for as many games as possible to be broadcast. Each game is of superbowl importance in the home countries of the teams involved, and some are must-watch no matter where you are. People all around the world watched US/England and will watch other marquee matchups.

Only 2 teams from each group of four advance to whats called the "round of 16" that begins the knockout stage. If you lose from this point forward, you are out of the tournament. It goes: group stage (32 teams) -> round of 16 (16 teams) -> quarterfinals (8 teams) -> semifinals (4 teams) -> final (two top teams).

The buzzing noise is a chorus of horns called vuvuzelas that are popular in South Africa. Its a cultural thing.

snowspot66
06-14-2010, 06:03 PM
Someone's gotta know what that awful noise is right?

Come on peeps. Help me out here.

It's those retarded horns they blow on nonstop.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the info.

vuvuzelas huh? Like I said I had no idea until the announcers said something today (just before a free kick) about the kick being "time for the crowd to turn up the volume on the vuvuzelas" but of course I couldn't make out the word. I of course assumed he meant the things that make that noise.

Annoying cultural thing but I guess it's just something to live with. So it's NOT a soccer thing then right?
That's good because there's only so much I can handle!!

Okay so next question.
Would it be fair to say that the U.S. (especially after the tie with England) has a good shot to advance?
And if we do, then what are our chances beyond that?
Once it gets to 32 teams it's one loss and you're out? Wow.

And what about ties at that point? With so many games ending in a tie how do they decide the games once it gets to the round of 32 and beyond?
Just sudden death? Wouldn't that take a long time?

And finally why in God's name is the extra time in the group stage the choice of the ref?
Isn't that a bit ludicrous?
In our game it was four minutes and today it was three minutes. How do they make that decision?
And are there no timeouts? I noticed even when a player was hurt the clock kept going.

Sorry to pepper with questions.
Just trying to get into this and I'm obviously pretty clueless.

That One Guy
06-14-2010, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the info.

vuvuzelas huh? Like I said I had no idea until the announcers said something today (just before a free kick) about the kick being "time for the crowd to turn up the volume on the vuvuzelas" but of course I couldn't make out the word. I of course assumed he meant the things that make that noise.

Annoying cultural thing but I guess it's just something to live with. So it's NOT a soccer thing then right?
That's good because there's only so much I can handle!!

Okay so next question.
Would it be fair to say that the U.S. (especially after the tie with England) has a good shot to advance?
And if we do, then what are our chances beyond that?
Once it gets to 32 teams it's one loss and you're out? Wow.

And what about ties at that point? With so many games ending in a tie how do they decide the games once it gets to the round of 32 and beyond?
Just sudden death? Wouldn't that take a long time?

And finally why in God's name is the extra time in the group stage the choice of the ref?
Isn't that a bit ludicrous?
In our game it was four minutes and today it was three minutes. How do they make that decision?
And are there no timeouts? I noticed even when a player was hurt the clock kept going.

Sorry to pepper with questions.
Just trying to get into this and I'm obviously pretty clueless.

I'm gonna give this an attempt. Please correct where I'm wrong.

The US-Slovenia game is very important because to lose that would give Slovenia 2 wins already and essentially pass them forward. If the US wins this one and the next, they should advance. Both very winable games.

Ties after this round go to a shootout. 5 players from each team take PKs (penalty kicks) and whoever has the most wins.

The clock never stops during play but that time, roughly, is added at the end and is the stoppage time you mentioned. I believe it's reported in to the ref from someone keeping track. I would like to know why it is done that way as it seems to be more of a pain.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 06:51 PM
And I may not know what I'm watching but I know laid back when I see it and Italy was laid back.
They looked lucky to escape with a tie from what I could see.
Makes me wonder if the favorites take it easy in the early games?
Kind of like what you sometimes see in Olympic hockey.

The only problem with that is it can sometimes be hard to "flip the switch" when you don't play at 100% all the time.
Their performance looked pretty gutless to this uneducated observer.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 06:54 PM
I can't believe I'm talking Soccer. This is definitely a first.
Just never could get into it AT ALL before but for some reason these couple games I've watched have actually held my attention.

Certainly talented players out there and a lot more strategy than I had anticipated.
Also a lot more CONTACT than I had imagined.
Sure many of the guys come off as whiners but in reality they're probably just trying to draw a penalty which is smart.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 06:58 PM
I'm gonna give this an attempt. Please correct where I'm wrong.

The US-Slovenia game is very important because to lose that would give Slovenia 2 wins already and essentially pass them forward. If the US wins this one and the next, they should advance. Both very winable games.

Ties after this round go to a shootout. 5 players from each team take PKs (penalty kicks) and whoever has the most wins.

The clock never stops during play but that time, roughly, is added at the end and is the stoppage time you mentioned. I believe it's reported in to the ref from someone keeping track. I would like to know why it is done that way as it seems to be more of a pain.

Wow. Okay thanks. Very informative. That makes a lot more sense than just guessing at additional minutes!! The announcers just said it was the choice of the refs so it sounded very arbitrary.

And shootouts never occurred to me but that makes sense. I would then think that A LOT of what decides this thing is who has the best set of five one on one players because it sure seems like A LOT of games end up in a tie.
I imagine the shoot outs are amazingly exciting for the fans. Well I'm gonna give this a real shot. I decided one or two games just isn't enough to really see what I think so I'm gonna watch this whole tourney at LEAST as long as the U.S. is a part of it. Thanks again for the info!!

That One Guy
06-14-2010, 06:58 PM
I can't believe I'm talking Soccer. This is definitely a first.
Just never could get into it AT ALL before but for some reason these couple games I've watched have actually held my attention.

Certainly talented players out there and a lot more strategy than I had anticipated.
Also a lot more CONTACT than I had imagined.
Sure many of the guys come off as whiners but in reality they're probably just trying to draw a penalty which is smart.

Deep down, we're all hoping for someone to lay a Zidane headbutt on someone by the end of the tournament. That was an awesome way to finish the last one.

Strategy is what you have to be able to appreciate. How they set up the plays and what they do with the ball. Germany was fun to watch yesterday as they were attacking by knowing where the ball was going before they ever had it truly under control. Precision one touch passes, splitting defenders and being aggressive... they were great to see. There's a lot that sets up those half dozen shots per game that each team gets and it definitely merits watching if you can appreciate it.

That One Guy
06-14-2010, 07:02 PM
Wow. Okay thanks. Very informative. That makes a lot more sense than just guessing at additional minutes!! The announcers just said it was the choice of the refs so it sounded very arbitrary.

And shootouts never occurred to me but that makes sense. I would then think that A LOT of what decides this thing is who has the best set of five one on one players because it sure seems like A LOT of games end up in a tie.
I imagine the shoot outs are amazingly exciting for the fans. Well I'm gonna give this a real shot. I decided one or two games just isn't enough to really see what I think so I'm gonna watch this whole tourney at LEAST as long as the U.S. is a part of it. Thanks again for the info!!

Well... really... Shootouts are chance. Every professional player should really make a majority of their shots. The keepers are good and get their share as well but the goal is much bigger than any single person can actually block. It often comes down to whether the keeper guesses the right direction and how many balls bounce off posts.

When I was a keeper in my kiddy-high school days, they always said you had to pick a side and just hope the player went that way with it. In reality, you could usually see by the way their plant foot was positioned and the angle they were going at the ball how it was going. At this level, holy crap those keepers are at a disadvantage.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 07:02 PM
Deep down, we're all hoping for someone to lay a Zidane headbutt on someone by the end of the tournament. That was an awesome way to finish the last one.

Strategy is what you have to be able to appreciate. How they set up the plays and what they do with the ball. Germany was fun to watch yesterday as they were attacking by knowing where the ball was going before they ever had it truly under control. Precision one touch passes, splitting defenders and being aggressive... they were great to see. There's a lot that sets up those half dozen shots per game that each team gets and it definitely merits watching if you can appreciate it.

That makes sense too.
And the Zidane thing would've gone right over my head but some "best of" show I watched awhile back showed that head butt so I know what you're referring to.
Man was that a dirty play.
I assume that's when the RED card comes out? And I also assume the red card is a disqualification?
Gotta watch those I'm sure especially if it's better players. Maybe also like hockey in that regard. Let the "goons" take the red cards and protect the better players eh?

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 07:05 PM
Well... really... Shootouts are chance. Every professional player should really make a majority of their shots. The keepers are good and get their share as well but the goal is much bigger than any single person can actually block. It often comes down to whether the keeper guesses the right direction and how many balls bounce off posts.

When I was a keeper in my kiddy-high school days, they always said you had to pick a side and just hope the player went that way with it. In reality, you could usually see by the way their plant foot was positioned and the angle they were going at the ball how it was going. At this level, holy crap those keepers are at a disadvantage.

Precisely my point.
So a lot of what will determine the winner is the shoot outs. Though from what you're saying (which makes perfect sense) it's actually the GOALIE that's the most important player at that point.
If most pro players should make most of those shots the real difference would be having a keeper that has that sixth sense and can anticipate which way the ball is going right?

And isn't the U.S. keeper known as being one of the best? If so we might have a chance to do some damage here!!

That One Guy
06-14-2010, 07:06 PM
That makes sense too.
And the Zidane thing would've gone right over my head but some "best of" show I watched awhile back showed that head butt so I know what you're referring to.
Man was that a dirty play.
I assume that's when the RED card comes out? And I also assume the red card is a disqualification?
Gotta watch those I'm sure especially if it's better players. Maybe also like hockey in that regard. Let the "goons" take the red cards and protect the better players eh?

Red cards take a player out of that game and out of the next game as well. For the team, however, if they get a red card then they can't replace the player for the rest of the game.

I'm iffy on this as in my days of playing it was 2 yellows equal a red but I believe that isn't the case here. I think 2 yellows and they just have to leave. Not sure how long or whatever, one of the soccer pros will fill us in on that.

Yellow cards sometimes come on dirty plays but really it seems they're given moreso when players dive. If the ref thinks you took a dive, it's a card. It's amazing how the players actually turn into big boys and play through contact after that first yellow comes out to avoid the second one. No diving = even more fun to watch.

And, as I've mentioned a few times for any new folks, don't be afraid to watch a slower game with something else. Surf the Mane, read the paper, etc. Keep it on and glance at it if you have to but some games are better than others.

Orange4Life
06-14-2010, 07:39 PM
Red cards take a player out of that game and out of the next game as well. For the team, however, if they get a red card then they can't replace the player for the rest of the game.

I'm iffy on this as in my days of playing it was 2 yellows equal a red but I believe that isn't the case here. I think 2 yellows and they just have to leave. Not sure how long or whatever, one of the soccer pros will fill us in on that.

Yellow cards sometimes come on dirty plays but really it seems they're given moreso when players dive. If the ref thinks you took a dive, it's a card. It's amazing how the players actually turn into big boys and play through contact after that first yellow comes out to avoid the second one. No diving = even more fun to watch.

And, as I've mentioned a few times for any new folks, don't be afraid to watch a slower game with something else. Surf the Mane, read the paper, etc. Keep it on and glance at it if you have to but some games are better than others.

I'll give my .02

First, in the knock out stage I believe there is 20 min of overtime play, two ten minute halves before the game goes to penalty kicks. I do not believe the 20 minute overtime is sudden death. They keep changing this rule so I may not be exactly up to date.

As a general rule games decided by penalty kicks suck. While being very exciting from a fan stand point they really are a crap shoot and anything can happen. From a practical stand point though after a full game and 20 minutes of overtime play the play on the field really gets sloppy just because of the fatigue factor.

Two yellow cards in one game equals an ejection and one game suspension. During group play if you get one yellow card in game one and then another yellow card in game two, three, or four you are not ejected from the current game. But you are suspended for the next game. After the group play stage yellow cards are wiped out and everyone starts over. However yellow cards can be accumulated during the knockout stage the same as they were in the group stage.

The official can skip right to a red card and eject a player from the game without issuing a yellow card. This also carries an additional one game suspension.

And yes the US does have top notch goalies. Howard is considered one of the best in the world.

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 07:52 PM
orange 4 life, this is the noise

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In all seriousness, the WC always starts slowly, things get interesting the the 2nd round of games for each team, then in the 3rd round of games they can explode or be dull depending on what the team has to play for, then the knock out rounds get underway and it all kicks off. Don't feel you have to watch 'em all, but when the round of 16 starts on June 26th the games are played to a conclusion and loser goes home.

I am aware I could have structured that sentence better.

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 07:53 PM
I'll give my .02

First, in the knock out stage I believe there is 20 min of overtime play, two ten minute halves before the game goes to penalty kicks. I do not believe the 20 minute overtime is sudden death. They keep changing this rule so I may not be exactly up to date.

As a general rule games decided by penalty kicks suck. While being very exciting from a fan stand point they really are a crap shoot and anything can happen. From a practical stand point though after a full game and 20 minutes of overtime play the play on the field really gets sloppy just because of the fatigue factor.

Two yellow cards in one game equals an ejection and one game suspension. During group play if you get one yellow card in game one and then another yellow card in game two, three, or four you are not ejected from the current game. But you are suspended for the next game. After the group play stage yellow cards are wiped out and everyone starts over. However yellow cards can be accumulated during the knockout stage the same as they were in the group stage.

The official can skip right to a red card and eject a player from the game without issuing a yellow card. This also carries an additional one game suspension.

And yes the US does have top notch goalies. Howard is considered one of the best in the world.

15 minutes per half in extra time, 5 penalties each afterwards then sudden death penalties.

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Dagmar
06-14-2010, 07:58 PM
From the NY Post article

To England’s horror, the ball skipped off Green’s scooped mitts and rolled across the line like King George only wished he could have made Thomas Jefferson’s and John Adams’s heads roll in 1776. Had that happened, Tim Howard might have been playing goal for England yesterday. Instead, North Brunswick, N.J.’s, finest was also America’s yesterday, the latest reason to celebrate that our founding fathers pressed the issue.

epicSocialism4tw
06-14-2010, 09:20 PM
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That One Guy
06-14-2010, 09:22 PM
I'll give my .02

First, in the knock out stage I believe there is 20 min of overtime play, two ten minute halves before the game goes to penalty kicks. I do not believe the 20 minute overtime is sudden death. They keep changing this rule so I may not be exactly up to date.

As a general rule games decided by penalty kicks suck. While being very exciting from a fan stand point they really are a crap shoot and anything can happen. From a practical stand point though after a full game and 20 minutes of overtime play the play on the field really gets sloppy just because of the fatigue factor.

Two yellow cards in one game equals an ejection and one game suspension. During group play if you get one yellow card in game one and then another yellow card in game two, three, or four you are not ejected from the current game. But you are suspended for the next game. After the group play stage yellow cards are wiped out and everyone starts over. However yellow cards can be accumulated during the knockout stage the same as they were in the group stage.

The official can skip right to a red card and eject a player from the game without issuing a yellow card. This also carries an additional one game suspension.

And yes the US does have top notch goalies. Howard is considered one of the best in the world.

Holy crap... imagine my confusion when the same guy I was giving answers to came back and corrected me. It took a few times of scrolling up and down to notice you have the same name but one has spaces in it. What are the odds of that happening without some trickery?

I didn't know yellow cards accumulated throughout the 4 games, that's freaking awesome. None of the divers from the first game can dive for the duration of group play... I love it!

And I agree with you on the shootout being a crap shoot. It's exciting but it's such luck. There was never a rush like lining up for a PK - either side of it, but there is no way I'd want to be one of those people. Such pressure and it all comes down to inches and chance.

Dagmar
06-14-2010, 09:36 PM
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orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 09:49 PM
orange 4 life, this is the noise

http://i46.tinypic.com/1znlxzd.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/1znlxzd.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/1znlxzd.jpg

In all seriousness, the WC always starts slowly, things get interesting the the 2nd round of games for each team, then in the 3rd round of games they can explode or be dull depending on what the team has to play for, then the knock out rounds get underway and it all kicks off. Don't feel you have to watch 'em all, but when the round of 16 starts on June 26th the games are played to a conclusion and loser goes home.

I am aware I could have structured that sentence better.

Hilarious.
It's not about sentence structure brother. Thanks for the good info.

orange 4 life
06-14-2010, 09:53 PM
Holy crap... imagine my confusion when the same guy I was giving answers to came back and corrected me. It took a few times of scrolling up and down to notice you have the same name but one has spaces in it. What are the odds of that happening without some trickery?

I didn't know yellow cards accumulated throughout the 4 games, that's freaking awesome. None of the divers from the first game can dive for the duration of group play... I love it!

And I agree with you on the shootout being a crap shoot. It's exciting but it's such luck. There was never a rush like lining up for a PK - either side of it, but there is no way I'd want to be one of those people. Such pressure and it all comes down to inches and chance.

ROFL.

I was hoping you'd catch that!!
He and I have had that problem for like seven years now. LOL

It's my bad since I didn't realize it when I picked my name. Heck we even both have Utah ties.
Anyway thanks to you and everyone for all the great info.

Too bad it's a few more days till the next U.S. game though!!!
Now I wanna see another game!

I'll check out games in the mean time (like I did today) but it's obviously not the same.
So GO U.S.A.!!!!

JPEZ
06-14-2010, 10:01 PM
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Vuvuzela!

SleepingTiger
06-15-2010, 06:18 AM
ROFL.

I was hoping you'd catch that!!
He and I have had that problem for like seven years now. LOL

It's my bad since I didn't realize it when I picked my name. Heck we even both have Utah ties.
Anyway thanks to you and everyone for all the great info.

Too bad it's a few more days till the next U.S. game though!!!
Now I wanna see another game!

I'll check out games in the mean time (like I did today) but it's obviously not the same.
So GO U.S.A.!!!!

the games you definitely want to watch during before friday is Brazil and Spain. definitely tivo the Spain game, they play the way soccer should be played!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 06:19 AM
NZ gets a goal in stoppage time to tie it... very nice!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 06:22 AM
the games you definitely want to watch during before friday is Brazil and Spain. definitely tivo the Spain game, they play the way soccer should be played!

Whoa, Ivory Coast vs Portugal will be a cracker I think. Starts in a few minutes.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 06:30 AM
Great to see New Zealand get the equalizer as Slovakia's goal was offsides. Good for them earning the first World Cup point ever for the Kiwis.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 06:31 AM
Whoa, Ivory Coast vs Portugal will be a cracker I think. Starts in a few minutes.

Should be the quality game of the day. Then this afternoon we can watch Brazil humiliate North Korea (I hope they beat them 6-0). Then Kim can pitch another hissy fit and threaten to go to war over it.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 06:35 AM
Great to see New Zealand get the equalizer as Slovenia's goal was offsides. Good for them earning the first World Cup point ever for the Kiwis.

That was disappointing to see as I didn't notice it at the time. Soccer is usually good about rules being implemented fairly so it was a fluke. It was so close though so it can hardly be said that it was a freebie. Good game overall but Slovekia just wasn't manning up near the goal and blew the lead. There were a few uncontested headers from around the six yard box and that just can't happen.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 06:42 AM
That was disappointing to see as I didn't notice it at the time. Soccer is usually good about rules being implemented fairly so it was a fluke. It was so close though so it can hardly be said that it was a freebie. Good game overall but Slovakia just wasn't manning up near the goal and blew the lead. There were a few uncontested headers from around the six yard box and that just can't happen.

I was very impressed with the quality of the Kiwi's game on set pieces, especially the service into the goal box. Pretty cool that it was a player of Maori descent.

McDman
06-15-2010, 06:56 AM
It's disappointing that Drogba won't be playing.

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2010, 06:57 AM
NZ gets a goal in stoppage time to tie it... very nice!

That was a fun result. NZ are basically one of the worst teams of the tournament, so this was a big surprise. Slovakia are actually a pretty solid squad. This has to be terrible for them as they really needed a full 3 points from that game to get through.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 07:10 AM
It's disappointing that Drogba won't be playing.

He's on the bench no?

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:11 AM
Man does Ronaldo have a cannon of a leg. That strike was fantastic. Great Save!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 07:16 AM
That was a fun result. NZ are basically one of the worst teams of the tournament, so this was a big surprise. Slovakia are actually a pretty solid squad. This has to be terrible for them as they really needed a full 3 points from that game to get through.

Exactly, one draw and one win is all Paraguay and Italy need to get through now.

As for this game, it's already very entertaining!

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:20 AM
Ivory Coast is putting some nice pressure on Portugal, shame about Drogba. He is one of those players that you love if he is on your squad, and despise if not.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 07:25 AM
Man does Ronaldo have a cannon of a leg. That strike was fantastic. Great Save!

Cannot stand him, just like Gerrard, players who dive so open and often are what detracts from the sport in my opinion.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:31 AM
Cannot stand him, just like Gerrard, players who dive so open and often are what detracts from the sport in my opinion.

Oh, I agree completely. One of the reasons I can't watch the Mexican league, flippin like watching synchronized swimming there is so much diving going on.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 07:33 AM
I'm quite surprised at this game. I really figured this would be a Portugal game but Ivory Coast seems to stay on the attack. For a while yet, it's stayed almost exclusively on the Portugal side of the field.

EDIT: I say this and then Portugal finally wakes up again.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:37 AM
I'm quite surprised at this game. I really figured this would be a Portugal game but Ivory Coast seems to stay on the attack. For a while yet, it's stayed almost exclusively on the Portugal side of the field.

Ivory Coast is doing a nice job maintaining their form. If they can do this for the duration, the pressure will build on Portugal. With Brazil in the group, everyone else has to feel like they better get wins against the other two in the group if they want to advance. If Portugal doesn't win this game, things could get interresting.

McDman
06-15-2010, 07:45 AM
This game just confirms my hatred of Ronaldo, he's such a bitch. He's always flopping and if he doesn't get a call he cries about it.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 07:47 AM
The commentator was refreshingly honest there about how **** that game turned after the 1st 15 minutes...

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:47 AM
This game needs a goal to open it up. I hope Ivory Coast scores to open the second half.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 07:47 AM
This game just confirms my hatred of Ronaldo, he's such a b****. He's always flopping and if he doesn't get a call he cries about it.

I thought that yellow card was awesome. Make everyone quit acting like babies and move on. Commentators thought they had a missed foul (I actually have volume on today, not much happening in my house) but they still didn't need to be bumping chests and acting like idiots.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 07:49 AM
The commentator was refreshingly honest there about how **** that game turned after the 1st 15 minutes...

They sure do seem to be more honest and less policital with their commentary here vs American football. If a team is playing bad, they mention it and likewise with the refs calling the game. Quite nice.

The Joker
06-15-2010, 07:49 AM
We should have a sweepstake as to when the first actually good game will take place.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:50 AM
The commentator was refreshingly honest there about how **** that game turned after the 1st 15 minutes...

They were also refreshingly honest about the crap officiating in the first half. I hope this ref from Uruguay doesn't do any of the US or Dutch games. He is a card flashing idiot who maintains no consistancy in his calls, and often has a huge impact on the games he calls.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 07:50 AM
They sure do seem to be more honest and less policital with their commentary here vs American football. If a team is playing bad, they mention it and likewise with the refs calling the game. Quite nice.

I noticed that when I moved here, commentators seem scared to be honest about how poor a game is in case people switch off.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 07:52 AM
Heh heh heh, Alexi calling out Ronaldo for being a cry baby diving wuss.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 07:57 AM
Heh heh heh, Alexi calling out Ronaldo for being a cry baby diving wuss.

haha, he definitely did not hold back.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:16 AM
game starting to open up a bit at both ends. Ivory Coast looking like the more agressive team, but Portugul picking it up as well.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:21 AM
Wow, could be a great move, but could also be a major gaff.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:22 AM
game starting to open up a bit at both ends. Ivory Coast looking like the more agressive team, but Portugul picking it up as well.

Ivory Coast has the left side working well for them. They're getting behind the D but just can't turn it into shots. If they manage to, it could quickly become a goal.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Wow, could be a great move, but could also be a major gaff.

That really takes guts to play with a broken arm. I hope this works out well. I find myself kinda rooting for Ivory Coast here...

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Ivory Coast has the left side working well for them. They're getting behind the D but just can't turn it into shots. If they manage to, it could quickly become a goal.

Drogba could draw enough attention to help open up some room for someone else. Cast or not, he does demand respect as a big game player.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:26 AM
That really takes guts to play with a broken arm. I hope this works out well. I find myself kinda rooting for Ivory Coast here...

Me too. I think Portugul is a team full of Prima Donnas. Not a fan at all.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:28 AM
Fn dive! Pussy

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:34 AM
Is there not a wreckless kicking rule at this level? I seem to see a lot of folks getting kicked above the waist by someone trying to play ninja on a high ball. I'd quickly get upset if it were me.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:35 AM
If this game ends tied, these two teams will be turning North Korea into a shooting gallery! Assuming that they both lose to Brazil, it will come down to goal differential. Ha ha ha. North Korea's goal tender is going to have a VERY long tournament!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 08:38 AM
Is there not a wreckless kicking rule at this level? I seem to see a lot of folks getting kicked above the waist by someone trying to play ninja on a high ball. I'd quickly get upset if it were me.

There is a "high boot" rule in soccer, it is very much down to the referee's interpretation though. It's there to protect a boot to the head.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:38 AM
Hahahaha...

"And you know if there's any contact, Ronaldo is gonna go down. Any contact. Maybe even a puff of wind"

I love these commentators!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:39 AM
There is a "high boot" rule in soccer, it is very much down to the referee's interpretation though. It's there to protect a boot to the head.

I thought so. Must never be called.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:40 AM
If this game ends tied, these two teams will be turning North Korea into a shooting gallery! Assuming that they both lose to Brazil, it will come down to goal differential. Ha ha ha. North Korea's goal tender is going to have a VERY long tournament!

That would be fun to see! Who wouldn't enjoy NK being humiliated on an international stage?

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:42 AM
That would be fun to see! Who wouldn't enjoy NK being humiliated on an international stage?

Absolutely!:blowhorn: :blowhorn: :blowhorn: :blowhorn: :blowhorn: :blowhorn:

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 08:44 AM
Ivory Coast getting sloppy... I don't foresee points coming if someone doesn't clean up their game.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:49 AM
Great pressure by CIV, corner kick will be the end of the game I'll bet.

Dutch
06-15-2010, 08:50 AM
That was weak. CIV should have known that they needed to take a quality kick.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 08:58 AM
http://img.skysports.com/08/06/218x298/CristianoRonaldoPortugal_957352.jpg

Over two years since his last competitive international goal

And 17 months since he's scored in any game for Portugal http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif

Dutch
06-15-2010, 09:04 AM
http://img.skysports.com/08/06/218x298/CristianoRonaldoPortugal_957352.jpg

Over two years since his last competitive international goal

And 17 months since he's scored in any game for Portugal http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif

I love it! Chokes in the big games internationally. I'm headed out to finish stripping the deck. Should be back intime for kickoff....

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 09:07 AM
The World cup will get better, it always starts off slowly as teams don't want to lose their opening matches, come the 2nd round of matches teams will need to come out and play.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 10:21 AM
Good article on Yahoo about the horns and their detriment. They make a good argument that they need to go. A couple excerpts:

Because the vuvuzelas create a wall of sound, there has been little of the usual chanting, singing and roaring that are a staple of soccer games everywhere else in the world. Even the fans of the England national team, normally among the loudest in international soccer, could not bring themselves to muster their usual diet of boisterous chants and songs during Saturday’s 1-1 draw with the United States, effectively admitting defeat to the almighty horn.

...

There is an argument that this is South Africa’s event and the rest of the world should adapt. But this is more than a South African event. The World Cup is a truly global spectacle – and the world is making itself heard that it doesn’t want its ears bashed any longer.

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/buzzkill-vuvuzelas-ruining-world-cup-experience--fbintl_ro-vuvuzela061410.html

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 10:22 AM
Apparently nearly zero degrees near Jo'burg right now, Brazil should smack these jokers around!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 10:29 AM
I can see Korea playing a 5 - 5 - 0 formation!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 10:38 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/xayv6g.jpg

Jens1893
06-15-2010, 11:07 AM
Come on DPR Korea! Do our Leader proud!

DBruleU
06-15-2010, 11:23 AM
Apparently nearly zero degrees near Jo'burg right now, Brazil should smack these jokers around!

I hate a winter WC. Germany was the best.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 11:42 AM
Come on DPR Korea! Do our Leader proud!

nananananananana leader!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:01 PM
Something that kinda irks me is the way they're so hesitant to call penalties that would become PKs. It's tackles that would seem to be called elsewhere but they're soooo hesitant there.

Also, Brazil is looking pretty iffy so far... trying to play around and be fancy and taking 25 yard shots. They have excellent ball skills but they seem to think they'll get points by showing them to us.

Jens1893
06-15-2010, 12:05 PM
Something that kinda irks me is the way they're so hesitant to call penalties that would become PKs. It's tackles that would seem to be called elsewhere but they're soooo hesitant there.

Also, Brazil is looking pretty iffy so far... trying to play around and be fancy and taking 25 yard shots. They have excellent ball skills but they seem to think they'll get points by showing them to us.

One of my bigger gripes with the game or the way the referees make decisions also. Effectively, as of right now, the penalty kick rule is counterproductive as defenders get away with far, far more in the box than they do in any part of the pitch.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:13 PM
One of my bigger gripes with the game or the way the referees make decisions also. Effectively, as of right now, the penalty kick rule is counterproductive as defenders get away with far, far more in the box than they do in any part of the pitch.

And that just serves to keep the score down which is everyone's biggest gripe with the game. Prevent the strikers from getting mauled or give PKs when they do and you're closer to 5 points per game than the 1-2 the games have averaged so far, I think.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:15 PM
Brazil's ball handling and use of the entire field is truly amazing to watch.

Jens1893
06-15-2010, 12:15 PM
And that just serves to keep the score down which is everyone's biggest gripe with the game. Prevent the strikers from getting mauled or give PKs when they do and you're closer to 5 points per game than the 1-2 the games have averaged so far, I think.

Not true.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 12:26 PM
Not true.

http://i49.tinypic.com/iwhjdl.jpg

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:26 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/iwhjdl.jpg

Haha... point made.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 12:38 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/fx4iew.gif

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:40 PM
Finally!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:41 PM
What a shot!

The Joker
06-15-2010, 12:57 PM
Two brilliant goals from Brazil.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 12:57 PM
That's two!

Woohooo... suck it NK...

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 01:00 PM
NK better watch or they'll lose a handful in the next few minutes!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:01 PM
NK keeper isn't very good, it seems. Horrible angle and position on both goals.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 01:02 PM
NK keeper isn't very good, it seems. Horrible angle and position on both goals.

Doubt many keepers in the world would have stopped the 2nd one, the 1st was poor positioning.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Doubt many keepers in the world would have stopped the 2nd one, the 1st was poor positioning.

He appeared to be way too close to the inside post. Maybe it was just the angle I saw the replay at.

The Joker
06-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Yeah the second goal he could do little about, just a great ball and finish.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Shots are going on target finally. Brazil has settled down. Lets see if they can put another one in though.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:08 PM
I love that ball movement!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:13 PM
Hahaha... that's gotta be like 4 or 5 offsides calls. They want another one, apparently.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:14 PM
Wow... well done, commies.

The Joker
06-15-2010, 01:17 PM
North Korea win the World Cup!!

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 01:21 PM
Wow... well done, commies.

http://nigelparry.com/enginefiles/uploads/kin-jong-il.jpg

**** you hans brix!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:43 PM
http://nigelparry.com/enginefiles/uploads/kin-jong-il.jpg

**** you hans brix!

LOL Nice!

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 01:51 PM
This is over on Yahoo right now. Our tie with England played out by Legos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnU3B6WsJ4&feature=player_embedded</EMBED></EMBED>

SouthStndJunkie
06-15-2010, 02:16 PM
That was a sweet goal by Maicon.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 02:46 PM
That was a sweet goal by Maicon.

Which one was that? I know not names.

The Joker
06-15-2010, 02:47 PM
Maicon was the first Brazil goal.

All three goals in the game were very good in their own right, was one of the better games of the tournament so far.

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 02:55 PM
Maicon was the first Brazil goal.

All three goals in the game were very good in their own right, was one of the better games of the tournament so far.

I personally thought the NK goal was probably the best but all three were excellent offensive plays that COULD (and possibly SHOULD) have been defended. I still maintain the keeper was out of place in the two Brazil goals and on the NK one, he dove as the ball went right where he was standing beforehand.

The last half hour or so was a great game. The first half was very ugly with lots of nice ball movement and very off target shots.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 03:02 PM
I personally thought the NK goal was probably the best but all three were excellent offensive plays that COULD (and possibly SHOULD) have been defended. I still maintain the keeper was out of place in the two Brazil goals and on the NK one, he dove as the ball went right where he was standing beforehand.

The last half hour or so was a great game. The first half was very ugly with lots of nice ball movement and very off target shots.

That first touch was fantastic for the goal.

DHallblows
06-15-2010, 04:44 PM
I wonder if head lines in NK will read "Victory" regardless of the outcome...

OABB
06-15-2010, 04:45 PM
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Dagmar
06-15-2010, 05:11 PM
Why can't you let people who enjoy soccer, just, you know, enjoy it? You that insecure?

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 05:36 PM
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Come on man, you're awesome and crack me up 90% of the time. Can you please just do us a favor and keep the soccer bashing in the other soccer thread? We'll argue it there with ya as long as you'd like - even if we really don't want to. But don't ruin this one for us too, please?

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 09:15 PM
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l42cfxqcWv1qbfyd5o1_500.jpg

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 09:16 PM
Vuvuzelas overcome Brazil

In what was, by all accounts, the biggest upset of them all, the truth of a hitherto unknown genetic anomoly was the only thing certain.

Brazil lined up in Canary Yellow glory, the North Koreans shed a tear. We anticipated a glut of goals, a showboat, but instead it was all about the vuvuzela and its strange effects on the men from Brazil.

"We had read Messi's comments about the vuvuzela noise, about not being able to communicate properly, but little were we to know what would happen after kick-off", lamented a bemused Maicon. "All I could hear was the vuvuzela, and then I looked up around me at the other players on the pitch - they were gone. I couldn't see them. I could see the referee, the linesmen, the North Koreans in the crowd. But my countrymen were invisible."

Boffins are busily poring over what sparse data there is, but right now it is an incredible mystery. Indeed, and cover your eyes if you don't want to see the score, North Korea finished the game 117-0.

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy243/artdaley/yuyuyuyu.gif

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2010, 09:21 PM
There are some good games tomorrow.

Chile are a darkhorse to make some noise and theyre playing underrated Honduras tomorrow in the early game.

You can see if Spain looks serious tomorrow against Switzerland in the middle game.

Bafana Bafana and Uruguay battle it out in a game that could decide who seizes control of Group A tomorrow in the late game.

epicSocialism4tw
06-15-2010, 09:23 PM
Slovenia guarantees victory over the US.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5288995/ce/us/slovenia-andrej-komac-guarantees-victory-vs-united-states?cc=5901&ver=us

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 09:27 PM
There are some good games tomorrow.

Chile are a darkhorse to make some noise and theyre playing underrated Honduras tomorrow in the early game.

You can see if Spain looks serious tomorrow against Switzerland in the middle game.

Bafana Bafana and Uruguay battle it out in a game that could decide who seizes control of Group A tomorrow in the late game.

Chile are going to be entertaining to watch (well maybe after their 1st game, given the way it's been). Spain vs Switzerland, I fear it being like the rest of these very first games, Switzerland sitting back hoping not to lose.

I am VERY intrigued to see how Uruguay play when they trying to win, as opposed to trying not to lose.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 09:30 PM
http://peaceplayersintl.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/moses-mabhida-stadium.jpg

http://www.fifa.com/imgml/worldcup/teams/focuson/ESP.jpg
http://www.fifa.com/imgml/worldcup/teams/focuson/SUI.jpg

HEAD TO HEAD

Spain: 15 Wins, Draws: 3

Goals forward: Spain: 45, Switzerland 15

That One Guy
06-15-2010, 09:46 PM
Slovenia guarantees victory over the US.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5288995/ce/us/slovenia-andrej-komac-guarantees-victory-vs-united-states?cc=5901&ver=us

"We are going to win this match," Komac said after practice Tuesday.

He added there's "a good feeling" on the squad after Slovenia beat Algeria 1-0 to claim its first World Cup victory and the top spot in Group C. Komac came on as a substitute in the final minutes.

A reserve player talking? Anyone remember a few years ago when the Pats were on their streak and that no-name Steeler safety guaranteed a win only to beat himself for a TD or two? I really hope it ends well for the US.

The Joker
06-16-2010, 03:23 AM
Really interested to see Chile play.

Good article here on the very unusual formation that they use and the man behind it, their manager.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/08/marcelo-bielsa-chile-world-cup-2010-tactics/

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 06:03 AM
I don't know who is who on the current game but the red team is getting some awesome shots on goal but it's some amazing defending and keeper play that is shutting them all down. Downright stunned that more goals haven't been scored.

EDIT: After watching about 50 mins of play, I've finally figured out which team is which. Chile is the ones that have been attacking like crazy and Honduras which is defending like champs.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 06:19 AM
Chile is controlling play, but unable to finish. Similar to Slovakia vs New Zealand. Hope to see Chile win this and go through. They play a nice style and would be cool to see them up against a European power in the next round. I think they could suprise some folks.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 06:20 AM
I'm looking forward to the game between Chile and Spain a week from Friday. Should be a good one.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 07:14 AM
If a header to the keeper is considered a deflection, it should similarly be a deflection when it comes to offsides.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 07:27 AM
I'll fall over laughing if the Swiss upset the Spanish. Even a tie would be great! (kind of like the US vs England only bigger gap between teams)

The Joker
06-16-2010, 07:28 AM
If a header to the keeper is considered a deflection, it should similarly be a deflection when it comes to offsides.

How do you mean?

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 07:37 AM
How do you mean?

If a team passes to their keeper, he can't use his hands. However, if they send a header to him, it's considered a deflection and he can pick it up.

In this game a few minutes ago, the Spanish team sent a ball forward and two Spanish players ran with it. As it came down, the furthest Spanish player had gotten behind the defense (which wouldn't be offsides because he was onside when the ball was kicked forward) and the 2nd Spanish player headed the ball forward to him and offsides was called. If the ball had deflected off a player to the forward most player, it would've been fair play still. However, in this scenario a header was considered a pass while the same exact move to a keeper is not.

Seems strange to have different rules there. I hope that made sense.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 07:47 AM
If a team passes to their keeper, he can't use his hands. However, if they send a header to him, it's considered a deflection and he can pick it up.

In this game a few minutes ago, the Spanish team sent a ball forward and two Spanish players ran with it. As it came down, the furthest Spanish player had gotten behind the defense (which wouldn't be offsides because he was onside when the ball was kicked forward) and the 2nd Spanish player headed the ball forward to him and offsides was called. If the ball had deflected off a player to the forward most player, it would've been fair play still. However, in this scenario a header was considered a pass while the same exact move to a keeper is not.

Seems strange to have different rules there. I hope that made sense.

Sorry, you can pass a ball to the keeper with your head, not feet. That rule was instigated years ago to stop time wasting at the end of important matches. It's in no way considered a "deflection" though.

*to clarify, a keeper would roll the ball to a defender and he would pass it right back and the keeper would pick it up, this could go on and on to preserve a slim lead, this was made very difficult by the back pass rule*

The back-pass rule was introduced in 1992 to discourage time-wasting and overly defensive play, after the 1990 World Cup was described as exceedingly dull, rife with back-passing and goalkeepers holding up the ball. Also, goalkeepers would frequently drop the ball and dribble it around, only to pick it up again once opponents came closer to put them under pressure; a typical time-stalling technique. An example was when Republic of Ireland goalkeeper Pat Bonner kept the ball for over 6 minutes against Egypt, by dribbling it around his box and picking it up again. Therefore, another rule was introduced at the same time as the back-pass rule, with the same intentions. This rule prohibits the goalkeeper from handling the ball again once he has released it for play. This offence would also result in an indirect free kick to the opposition.

The Swiss are hanging on by the skin of their teeth!

45 minutes to go till the end of the 1st round of games. Then **** gets real interesting!

The Joker
06-16-2010, 07:52 AM
Aye, as Dagmar has said it's not really considered a deflection.

Changing the rule for offsides to exclude headers would be very unfair on the defense, wouldn't make sense IMO.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 07:53 AM
Sorry, you can pass a ball to the keeper with your head, not feet. That rule was instigated years ago to stop time wasting at the end of important matches. It's in no way considered a "deflection" though.

*to clarify, a keeper would roll the ball to a defender and he would pass it right back and the keeper would pick it up, this could go on and on to preserve a slim lead, this was made very difficult by the back pass rule*



The Swiss are hanging on by the skin of their teeth!

45 minutes to go till the end of the 1st round of games. Then **** gets real interesting!

OK, maybe I've always misunderstood the justification of the ruling then. I was always told it was a deflection and not an intentional pass. I started playing soccer after this rule was implemented.

Still don't like it but that makes more sense.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 07:54 AM
Aye, as Dagmar has said it's not really considered a deflection.

Changing the rule for offsides to exclude headers would be very unfair on the defense, wouldn't make sense IMO.

Don't blame me, I'm American and we consider soccer a stupid game not worthy of learning the rules :approve:

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:09 AM
Wow! This will certainly make for a wide open game from here....

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:09 AM
Hahahahaha! That'll open this game up.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:12 AM
When I played in high school, I once accidently grabbed a corner kick while playing a post position just before it went into the goal. I got lucky and didn't get red carded and we blocked the PK. That's almost a position there where the guy should've *accidently* hit it with his hand unless it's a definite red card. If there's a way in which he could've done it and only got yellow, it would've definitely been worth it. He knew it was coming but couldn't do anything about it.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:16 AM
Spain's world ranking = 1st
Swiss' world ranking = 34th

Switzerland did not allow a single goal in cup qualifying.

Heh heh heh.......

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:17 AM
Great decision to charge out by that keeper. The way I played as well. You might score but I'm comin' for ya!

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:18 AM
Great decision to charge out by that keeper. The way I played as well. You might score but I'm comin' for ya!

Same here....

Torres coming on for Spain. That guy can be a lot of to watch....

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:19 AM
Spain's world ranking = 1st
Swiss' world ranking = 34th

Switzerland did not allow a single goal in cup qualifying.

Heh heh heh.......

Unfortunately, with the way the game was going, they'd have done better to score at 80' than at 60'. Spain is already picking it up a bit, it seems, and if it continues this way then there's no way Spain doesn't at least tie this if not sieze the momentum and win it outright.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:20 AM
Wow, was that one close! If Spain would spend more time trying to shoot on goal and less time diving for a penalty shot I think they would be much better off.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:23 AM
Unfortunately, with the way the game was going, they'd have done better to score at 80' than at 60'. Spain is already picking it up a bit, it seems, and if it continues this way then there's no way Spain doesn't at least tie this if not sieze the momentum and win it outright.

Well, yeah, no kidding. I believe the Swiss side is probably thrilled to have scored and lead in this one, period. The Swiss are playing a very scrappy game against the Spanish.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:24 AM
Wow, was that one close! If Spain would spend more time trying to shoot on goal and less time diving for a penalty shot I think they would be much better off.

It was too close. This game has become fun to watch as Spain knows there's some urgency. On the diving though, Spain has come close to getting a PK numerous times. At least 2 or 3 that could've been called such and noone but the Swiss would've been up in arms over.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:24 AM
This would be a bigger upset than if the US had beaten England.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:25 AM
Well, yeah, no kidding. I believe the Swiss side is probably thrilled to have scored and lead in this one, period. The Swiss are playing a very scrappy game against the Spanish.

I don't know many of the teams well enough, what are the odds of Spain continuing through if they lose this one?

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:27 AM
Oh my! A crossbar shot after the defender barely preventing a point blank shot on the play before. This one is gonna be good.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:31 AM
I don't know many of the teams well enough, what are the odds of Spain continuing through if they lose this one?

Well, the Spanish are the number one team in the world right now. They are dealing with several injury issues and the fact that the entire team has played a buttload of Soccer over the last year (club teams, champions league, cup qualifying, etc.). One of the hidden factors that doesn't get enough recognition in this tourney every time they hold it, I think. Spain could win this game 4-1 if the Swiss turtle into a defensive shell (as the Swiss rain several shots on Spain this moment, heh).

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 08:33 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2hsb634.jpg

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:34 AM
Haha... if nothing else, vuvuzelas will provide entertainment and humor for years to come.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 08:36 AM
http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/orangemane.com/BB/index.php/

View any site like you are at the WC!!

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/orangemane.com/BB/index.php/

View any site like you are at the WC!!

LOL Awesome

The Joker
06-16-2010, 08:40 AM
Spain **** the bed.

Their game with Chile is going to be very, very tasty now, assuming they don't score twice in the last 10 minutes.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:44 AM
Spain **** the bed.

Their game with Chile is going to be very, very tasty now, assuming they don't score twice in the last 10 minutes.

I think a fair amount of credit must be given to the Swiss as well. Their central defense has been pretty fantastic! The pressure on Spain in the Chile game will be huge! Just Huge! Group H just got real interresting!

Smiling Assassin27
06-16-2010, 08:47 AM
Spain looked every bit the creative offense as per normal (excepting the lack of closing those plays out with goals), but their defensive lapses are the one thing that could kill 'em. Really could be 2-0.

Puyol needs to call it a career.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 08:47 AM
5 hellish minutes coming for the Swiss.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:48 AM
Wow, five min of stoppage time.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:50 AM
Spain looked every bit the creative offense as per normal (excepting the lack of closing those plays out with goals), but their defensive lapses are the one thing that could kill 'em. Really could be 2-0.

Puyol needs to call it a career.

We really could be talking 4-3 at this point. Another exciting game that just didn't show up on the scoreboard.

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:50 AM
2 min

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:51 AM
We really could be talking 4-3 at this point. Another exciting game that just didn't show up on the scoreboard.

Usually the case at this level...
Hand Ball!! Free Kick!!

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:54 AM
Wow! Just Wow!

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:54 AM
Usually the case at this level...
Hand Ball!! Free Kick!!

Just saying this hasn't been the standard 1-0 game we've seen in the 1st round.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 08:57 AM
Wow! Just Wow!

This!

Dutch
06-16-2010, 08:58 AM
Just saying this hasn't been the standard 1-0 game we've seen in the 1st round.

True. The Spanish are probably the best ball possession team in the tourney, playing against the Swiss who were one of the best defensive squads in qualifying. Made for an entertaining game, for sure. Looking forward to this afternoons game as well.

Killericon
06-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Daaaaaaaamn.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 09:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/m9rLj.gif

BlaK-Argentina
06-16-2010, 10:09 AM
Haha, eat it Spain!

SonOfLe-loLang
06-16-2010, 10:29 AM
That game was sick. I was convinced Spain would score. All out assault on goal for the last 20 min. Nice job by the swiss keeper

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 10:40 AM
That game was sick. I was convinced Spain would score. All out assault on goal for the last 20 min. Nice job by the swiss keeper

Spain definitely tried their tails off but it just wasn't meant to be. Swiss goalkeeper was on his toes bigtime today and the Swiss defenders have great presence in the middle. It seemed the scoring opportunities came on controlled passes and getting behind the defense and very few opportunities from a blind cross. More often than not it seemed a cross found a Swiss defender.

I don't think Spain handled the ball quite as well as Brazil but they did very well. Just couldn't finish when they got in front of the goal.