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tsiguy96
10-21-2009, 01:41 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

TheReverend
10-21-2009, 01:44 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

Completely agree. Ask Matt Leinart how his checkbook's doing... especially when he gets a mediocre back up extension/FA period.

A lot of evaluators love it because it adds experience and maturity and makes players more NFL ready, but I personally hate it when top 15 players do it, not due to injury but because more often than not they get over-scouted and their draft stock FALLS

jhat01
10-21-2009, 01:47 PM
He seems like a good dude. I feel sorry for him...That being said, he's got it made in that state for the rest of his life, whether he takes another snap or not. I hope he makes it back.

Doggcow
10-21-2009, 01:47 PM
I didn't like him that much to begin with. I like McCoy of the QB Crop.

My wishlist is still

1) Taylor Mays
2) Brandon Spikes
3) Colt McCoy

Hopefully one of them is there when we use chicagos pick

Master___Pain
10-21-2009, 01:48 PM
Bradford's injury and now re-injury are going to cause him to slip. It's his throwing shoulder and that's going to scare some teams. He's a great QB and I think he'll be a good pro if that shoulder heals completely, but right now it's a huge red flag.

bronco militia
10-21-2009, 01:48 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

ooops!

TheReverend
10-21-2009, 01:50 PM
I didn't like him that much to begin with. I like McCoy of the QB Crop.

My wishlist is still

1) Taylor Mays
2) Brandon Spikes
3) Colt McCoy

Hopefully one of them is there when we use chicagos pick

:thumbs:

SoonerBronco
10-21-2009, 01:54 PM
feel bad for him. Apparantley after Dr. Andrews fixes him, this should make everything better. I hear he had the option for surgery after the first time and really wanted to play against Texas. Good kid and I wish him the best.

Bronco Boy
10-21-2009, 02:08 PM
I'd take college trim over pro trim all day long.

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 02:10 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

Because BRadford can't play at the next level.

c_lazy_r
10-21-2009, 02:11 PM
I'd take college trim over pro trim all day long.

I'd take either...

Bronco Boy
10-21-2009, 02:16 PM
I didn't like him that much to begin with. I like McCoy of the QB Crop.

My wishlist is still

1) Taylor Mays
2) Brandon Spikes
3) Colt McCoy

Hopefully one of them is there when we use chicagos pick

I bet the Raiders take Mays because he's a physical freak. Personally I'd rather have Berry.

Mogulseeker
10-21-2009, 02:31 PM
I'd take college trim over pro trim all day long.

Hear hear!

"I want to go to college for the rest of my life
Sip Banker's Club and drink Miller Lite
On Thirsty Thursday and Tuesday Night Ice
And I can get pizza a dollar a slice

That party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it
I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked
Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need
Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again
Man, I love college
I love drinkin
I love women
And I love college"

Peoples Champ
10-21-2009, 02:35 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to


I dont agree with Bradford, but he said everything is not about money and his dream was to play all 4 years at OU. Either he is a really humble awesome kid, or he has rich parents. Adrian Peterson came back, people thought he was injury prone in college, and look at him now. Its all hinesight.

Peoples Champ
10-21-2009, 02:36 PM
I'd take college trim over pro trim all day long.


agreed, unless you play a pro sport in a city with colleges. Imagine players in Miami, or UCLA.

Irish Stout
10-21-2009, 02:38 PM
I didn't like him that much to begin with. I like McCoy of the QB Crop.

My wishlist is still

1) Taylor Mays
2) Brandon Spikes
3) Colt McCoy

Hopefully one of them is there when we use chicagos pick

We wont take any of them if Orton keeps up and with Brandstater getting the McD QB grooming. I'd actually be kind of upset if we use that high of a draft pick when we have good young QBs right now where we have some older spots in the O-line and secondary that maybe should be considered first....

That being said, I also know now to never jump the gun on being upset with what McD chooses to do in the draft (I was more pissed at McD for taking Moreno first than I was about the Cutler deal). Soooo if McD takes a QB with our first pick, I will try and suck it up.

Rock Chalk
10-21-2009, 02:38 PM
Bradford came back hoping to win a title for OU.

Kid is an Oklahoma native and grew up a life long OU fan. His dream was to win a title for OU.

He's still going in the first round, probably still top 10. So he makes a few less million on his initial paycheck, he's still going to make millions of dollars.

And Bradford is a better QB than anything that will ever come out of VTech Garcia.

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Bradford came back hoping to win a title for OU.

Kid is an Oklahoma native and grew up a life long OU fan. His dream was to win a title for OU.

He's still going in the first round, probably still top 10. So he makes a few less million on his initial paycheck, he's still going to make millions of dollars.

And Bradford is a better QB than anything that will ever come out of VTech Garcia.

Maybe, but he'll flop in the NFL. Just an opinion.

Mogulseeker
10-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Bradford came back hoping to win a title for OU.

Kid is an Oklahoma native and grew up a life long OU fan. His dream was to win a title for OU.

He's still going in the first round, probably still top 10. So he makes a few less million on his initial paycheck, he's still going to make millions of dollars.

And Bradford is a better QB than anything that will ever come out of VTech Garcia.

He'll be better than Stafford

Drek
10-21-2009, 02:46 PM
Bradford came back hoping to win a title for OU.

Kid is an Oklahoma native and grew up a life long OU fan. His dream was to win a title for OU.

He's still going in the first round, probably still top 10. So he makes a few less million on his initial paycheck, he's still going to make millions of dollars.

And Bradford is a better QB than anything that will ever come out of VTech Garcia.
I'd be very surprised if he goes in the top 10 now. Two significant injuries to his throwing shoulder within the same season? He'll need to rehab and look impressive just to stay in the first round.

400HZ
10-21-2009, 02:51 PM
He wasn't that good of a prospect to begin with.

Pony Boy
10-21-2009, 02:53 PM
I didn't like him that much to begin with. I like McCoy of the QB Crop.

My wishlist is still

1) Taylor Mays
2) Brandon Spikes
3) Colt McCoy

Hopefully one of them is there when we use chicagos pick

Question......... Why would you even think about drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round when we have.... ORTON......:kiddingme

UberBroncoMan
10-21-2009, 02:54 PM
I was all over getting Mays, however seeing as how we just drafted two safeties, on top of the fact we have a physical freak already in Barrett, and we should still have Dawkins. Mays probably isn't someone we'll get.

Woodyard will probably stay our nickle LB, Larsen will be depth for his career.

So Spikes does make sense...

If we can resign Doom, think of an LB core - Doom - Spikes - DJ - Ayers.

That's pretty freaking nasty.

SportinOne
10-21-2009, 02:54 PM
Hear hear!

"I want to go to college for the rest of my life
Sip Banker's Club and drink Miller Lite
On Thirsty Thursday and Tuesday Night Ice
And I can get pizza a dollar a slice

That party last night was awfully crazy I wish we taped it
I danced my ass off and had this one girl completely naked
Drink my beer and smoke my weed but my good friends is all I need
Pass out at 3, wake up at 10, go out to eat then do it again
Man, I love college
I love drinkin
I love women
And I love college"

Good lord I hate that song.

UberBroncoMan
10-21-2009, 02:55 PM
Question......... Why would you even think about drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round when we have.... ORTON......:kiddingme

I see us extending Orton and grooming Brandstater.

We might potentially release Simms as well meaning we'll draft another QB to groom to eventually be our starting QB and Brand (now with a year of study under his belt) will be the backup to Orton. Brand is actually not much younger than Orton.

Bronco Boy
10-21-2009, 02:57 PM
I was all over getting Mays, however seeing as how we just drafted two safeties, on top of the fact we have a physical freak already in Barrett, and we should still have Dawkins. Mays probably isn't someone we'll get.

Woodyard will probably stay our nickle LB, Larsen will be depth for his career.

So Spikes does make sense...

If we can resign Doom, think of an LB core - Doom - Spikes - DJ - Ayers.

That's pretty freaking nasty.

Rolando McClain wouldn't be bad as an ILB in a 3-4 either.

SportinOne
10-21-2009, 02:58 PM
It'd be nice if whatever high round QB that McDaniels most likes goes down with a severe-but-not-career-threatening injury and he slips to the 2nd round. We could pick up another solid defender in the 1st and get our "Franchise" in the 2nd.

If Nolan sticks around this defense is only going to get better.

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 02:58 PM
I see us extending Orton and grooming Brandstater.



This

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2009, 03:10 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

Bradford's dad played at OU and he grew up dreaming of playing QB there. He probably wanted to be part of the fabric of the history of Sooners.

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2009, 03:17 PM
I'd be very surprised if he goes in the top 10 now. Two significant injuries to his throwing shoulder within the same season? He'll need to rehab and look impressive just to stay in the first round.

Its really just one injury that was not fully rehabbed.

Bradford is easily the best QB prospect to come out of college football since the Cutler class...injury or no injury. An injury like this when a kid is that young is hardly enough to move him that far down the list.

Will some people be cautious? Sure. Will others be willing to forego the relatively minor risk and take him anyway? Sure. It depends on the franchise. If the Rams or Browns are picking in the top 5, I would expect them both to charge hard after Bradford and not to think twice about it.

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 03:18 PM
Its really just one injury that was not fully rehabbed.

Bradford is easily the best QB prospect to come out of college football since the Cutler class...injury or no injury. An injury like this when a kid is that young is hardly enough to move him that far down the list.

Will some people be cautious? Sure. Will others be willing to forego the relatively minor risk and take him anyway? Sure. It depends on the franchise. If the Rams or Browns are picking in the top 5, I would expect them both to charge hard after Bradford and not to think twice about it.

And Bradford will be a miserable failure playing for either of those teams. Hopefully he does drop and gets a on a good team where he doesn't have to the guy.

SoonerBronco
10-21-2009, 03:20 PM
Maybe, but he'll flop in the NFL. Just an opinion.

and it stinks...much like the Hokie offense...

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 03:24 PM
and it stinks...much like the Hokie offense...

LOL. Maybe...but we'd beat your ass. At least we can get a QB to actually start in the pros. :P

SoonerBronco
10-21-2009, 03:25 PM
LOL. Maybe...but we'd beat your ass. :P

You'd need another driving rain storm....

Pony Boy
10-21-2009, 03:26 PM
Bradford's dad played at OU and he grew up dreaming of playing QB there. He probably wanted to be part of the fabric of the history of Sooners.

Very True..... and think about he was recruited as a back up for Rett Bomar....

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 03:26 PM
You'd need another driving rain storm....

They happen. Don't trip over Boise State on your way out.

BroncoMan4ever
10-21-2009, 03:29 PM
I'd take college trim over pro trim all day long.

idk about that. pro trim is on the level of

Bridget Moynahan
http://www.starshub.com/thumbs/bridget_moynahan_009.jpg

Carrie Underwood
http://www.topsocialite.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/carrie-underwood-grammy.jpg

Jessica Simpson
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/people2/simpson.jpg

Gisele
http://www.modelinia.com/__wordpress__/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gisele-bunchen-gigi-green.jpg

Carmella Decesare
http://www.carmella-decesare.net/pictures/Carmella%20DeCesare%2018.jpg

Kim Kardashian
http://sneakerboxx.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/kim-bikini-kardashian-2.jpg

College trim is on the level of

Paris Hilton and judging by this picture i am pretty sure VD
http://www.mm-agency.com/mtv-real-world/paris-hilton-herpes.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2009, 03:29 PM
And Bradford will be a miserable failure playing for either of those teams. Hopefully he does drop and gets a on a good team where he doesn't have to the guy.

Nah...Bradford is the guy. He's unbelievable. His is accurate and strong with every throw. There's not a throw that he cant nail. Add to that the fact that he's Brady/Manning smart and you have what looks like a top notch prospect. The kid really doesnt have any flaws. He's not super mobile, but he's certainly more moblie than Orton or Manning. He's faster than Brady too.

Bradford will be a solid NFL player. He has a leadership personality as well...he'll be fine.

Bronco Boy
10-21-2009, 03:38 PM
idk about that. pro trim is on the level of



Yeah, but there's a lot of legwork involved there. At OU, Bradford can pretty much just open his front door and the girls come a runnin'.

SoonerBronco
10-21-2009, 03:43 PM
They happen. Don't trip over Boise State on your way out.


Don't worry, we'll take care of Kansas this week...BTW, how did that work out the last time you played the Jaychokes?

Garcia Bronco
10-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Don't worry, we'll take care of Kansas this week...BTW, how did that work out the last time you played the Jaychokes?

We got beat. But we made it back to the orange bowl the next year. Kansas didn't get an invite.

elsid13
10-21-2009, 03:51 PM
Nah...Bradford is the guy. He's unbelievable. His is accurate and strong with every throw. There's not a throw that he cant nail. Add to that the fact that he's Brady/Manning smart and you have what looks like a top notch prospect. The kid really doesnt have any flaws. He's not super mobile, but he's certainly more moblie than Orton or Manning. He's faster than Brady too.

Bradford will be a solid NFL player. He has a leadership personality as well...he'll be fine.

Did you actually post that with a straight face.

BroncoMan4ever
10-21-2009, 03:54 PM
Yeah, but there's a lot of legwork involved there. At OU, Bradford can pretty much just open his front door and the girls come a runnin'.

true, but in college, basically anyone can basically get laid nightly. it isn't a hard thing to do with drunk college trim. but quality trim takes work and you don't come across much quality trim in college.

SoonerBronco
10-21-2009, 03:55 PM
We got beat. But we made it back to the orange bowl the next year. Kansas didn't get an invite.

I guess that makes it better?Hilarious!

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2009, 04:08 PM
Did you actually post that with a straight face.

I have watched every game that Bradford has played at Oklahoma. Bradford still surprises me with his accuracy all over the field. He has Marino accuracy.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-21-2009, 04:30 PM
Front 7 next April, then more Front 7, and then Front 7 again

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Front 7 next April, then more Front 7, and then Front 7 again

I agree. I have been championing that opinion as long as I have posted here.

We may as well forget about Cherokee Sam anyhow, because he surely isnt going to be around when the Broncos draft.

azbroncfan
10-21-2009, 04:53 PM
If he is there when we pick we draft him and stuff him on the bench to learn behind Orton. Problem is in Denver the fans get real impatient when the possible QBOTF is on the bench and the starter has his first bad game.

DenverBrit
10-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Bradford is all class...a team leader, accurate, makes few mistakes, a team first QB and very intelligent.

A good fit for the Broncos offense.

But he'll be long gone.

TheChamp24
10-21-2009, 05:41 PM
I love hearing the knacks on Bradford with people thinking he's some scrub who OU just planted in the QB spot and anybody can do what he did.

Fact is, he has a great arm, great accuracy, makes good reads, puts the ball where his guy can get it, is smart and mobile. He has the size as well, I don't see how you can't like this guy in the pro's. Yes, it will be an adjustment, but the kid has loads of potential.

He is really a good guy too, not one to ignore people, go out and party all night like Mr. Leinart, but a guy who will be more like Matt Ryan/Peyton Manning in the pro spotlight.

Personally, at this point, I wonder if Bradford is thinking about sitting this year out getting surgery, staying at school, and entering the draft in 2011.

lex
10-21-2009, 06:00 PM
I have watched every game that Bradford has played at Oklahoma. Bradford still surprises me with his accuracy all over the field. He has Marino accuracy.

Thats funny because until this year the majority of the time he played, he has gone up against teams with less talent, in a conference where defense wasnt a priority, while having one of the better OLines in college football and a group of WRs that generally were better than the athletes lining up across from them. Bradford has had a lot of time and has had huge passing windows most of his games in college up until this year.

oubronco
10-21-2009, 06:12 PM
now i dont follow college football a whole lot, i can tell you the basics but not much more. the question is, why would a guy whos a sure fire top 10 pick go back to school and possibly get injured and lose tens of millions of dollars? did he wnat to compete for national title, or just want to try to secure his place as #1 overall? just dont get it...

people criticized sanchez, but i can totally understand why he entered draft when he did: its dumb not to

I believe he stated he wanted to come back and prove he could put up the same type of game with a non elite o-line

lex
10-21-2009, 06:15 PM
I believe he stated he wanted to come back and prove he could put up the same type of game with a non elite o-line

Kind of a cautionary tale. Sometimes when you become pre-occupied with "putting up", you should actually be more worried about something more basic like standing up.

Aside from that, this looks like QB class that could potentially be great.

SoonerBronco
10-22-2009, 09:56 AM
yeah lex showed up to put his dig in. STFU dude.

Garcia Bronco
10-22-2009, 09:58 AM
I guess that makes it better?Hilarious!

Hey....since we started in the ACC we play for the Championship every year.

SoonerBronco
10-22-2009, 10:02 AM
Hey....since we started in the ACC we play for the Championship every year.


That's saying you won the Big XII North....:rofl:

Dedhed
10-22-2009, 12:09 PM
Its all hinesight.
Is that like looking at things through your butt?

Garcia Bronco
10-22-2009, 12:20 PM
That's saying you won the Big XII North....:rofl:

Our two division are better than the BIG12 North.

lex
10-22-2009, 12:36 PM
yeah lex showed up to put his dig in. STFU dude.


Relax there, cowboy. Im sure Landry Jones will make you forget about Bradford a year or two from now.

epicSocialism4tw
10-23-2009, 11:43 AM
Thats funny because until this year the majority of the time he played, he has gone up against teams with less talent, in a conference where defense wasnt a priority, while having one of the better OLines in college football and a group of WRs that generally were better than the athletes lining up across from them. Bradford has had a lot of time and has had huge passing windows most of his games in college up until this year.

You dont watch the games. Period.

How on earth can you say something so unfounded after Bradford has essentially played only one game this season (while injured, in which he fared pretty well)?

Bradford is the best QB prospect in the country. No matter what the SEC propaganda clowns on CBS keep forcefeeding you.

I'm sure youre probably still trying to find some odd angle to fit Tebow into the top 5 of next years draft. Ha!

SoonerBronco
10-23-2009, 12:23 PM
Relax there, cowboy. Im sure Landry Jones will make you forget about Bradford a year or two from now.

Your opinion = poop

DenverBrit
10-23-2009, 12:25 PM
Thats funny because until this year the majority of the time he played, he has gone up against teams with less talent, in a conference where defense wasnt a priority, while having one of the better OLines in college football and a group of WRs that generally were better than the athletes lining up across from them. Bradford has had a lot of time and has had huge passing windows most of his games in college up until this year.


Sounds like Cutler when he was a Bronco.