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RhymesayersDU
10-20-2009, 07:50 AM
You all know I was one of the nay-sayers. The haters. The "oh my God we're only going to win 5 games max" people. BUT like I said back in the preseason, I hoped I was wrong. I was DYING to be wrong. And thankfully, I was.

Never has it been so much fun to admit stupidity. Let me have it.

To sum up, from Happy Gilmore:
"I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive."

missingnumber7
10-20-2009, 07:52 AM
I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive.

We all knew this before you put it here...but I guess the first step to recovery is stating publically what we all knew to be true.

Man-Goblin
10-20-2009, 07:57 AM
You all know I was one of the nay-sayers. The haters. The "oh my God we're only going to win 5 games max" people. BUT like I said back in the preseason, I hoped I was wrong. I was DYING to be wrong. And thankfully, I was.

Never has it been so much fun to admit stupidity. Let me have it.

To sum up, from Happy Gilmore:
"I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive."

It's all good, man. Now....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/justusj/33048-2.jpg

alkemical
10-20-2009, 07:58 AM
We all knew this before you put it here...but I guess the first step to recovery is stating publically what we all knew to be true.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2585967&postcount=31

* Confession Even trivial violations of the group's demand for purity must be confessed immediately and thoroughly, often to a large group.

* Thought control: Cults teach their members techniques to stop thinking processes involving questions or doubts immediately. Criticism is labelled unethical or sinful.

TheDave
10-20-2009, 08:00 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2585967&postcount=31

* Confession Even trivial violations of the group's demand for purity must be confessed immediately and thoroughly, often to a large group.

* Thought control: Cults teach their members techniques to stop thinking processes involving questions or doubts immediately. Criticism is labelled unethical or sinful.

You know you want to be in the cult... Now get out that pic of TSI in his superfan costume and start worshiping it. ;D

RhymesayersDU
10-20-2009, 08:04 AM
Solid, solid replies.

I'm bowing to my collective sensei now.

alkemical
10-20-2009, 08:08 AM
You know you want to be in the cult... Now get out that pic of TSI in his superfan costume and start worshiping it. ;D

F that noise. But i will continue to observe this disturbing change of events.

Rabb
10-20-2009, 08:09 AM
I would not classify myself as a naysayer by any stretch or someone that panicked, but I will admit I officially picked us to go 5-11 and I will be man enough to admit I was very wrong

I have never even once taken the stance of a non-supporter, I just felt I was being realistic with so many unknowns

God Damn I am happy to be wrong here

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 08:10 AM
You know you want to be in the cult... Now get out that pic of TSI in his superfan costume and start worshiping it. ;D

damn skippy. i think its funny you continue to be a prick to people who supported the team after all your bull**** this offseason. i mean, atleast you had the sense to admit you were 100% wrong, yet you offer no apology to the people you were a dick to all offseason for actually believing in the team. but i guess, we didnt predict 6-0 so we were equally wrong, right...

crawdad
10-20-2009, 08:10 AM
Where is BF7 with all his BS crap? He needs to apologize to Orton!

missingnumber7
10-20-2009, 08:11 AM
F that noise. But i will continue to observe this disturbing change of events.

Do we need to bring in the Tanks and go Waco on these guys?

Bronco Warrior
10-20-2009, 08:11 AM
I was wrong! I picked us to go 10-6 the day after the Scheduale came out with our first loss coming @ San Iego! I'm obviously Wrong! That game was sick..I was the only sober guy is a bar full of Football freaks! lol!

TheDave
10-20-2009, 08:13 AM
damn skippy. i think its funny you continue to be a prick to people who supported the team after all your bull**** this offseason. i mean, atleast you had the sense to admit you were 100% wrong, yet you offer no apology to the people you were a dick to all offseason for actually believing in the team. but i guess, we didnt predict 6-0 so we were equally wrong, right...

Brandy... Brandy... Brandy... :thumbs:

alkemical
10-20-2009, 08:13 AM
damn skippy. i think its funny you continue to be a prick to people who supported the team after all your bull**** this offseason. i mean, atleast you had the sense to admit you were 100% wrong, yet you offer no apology to the people you were a dick to all offseason for actually believing in the team. but i guess, we didnt predict 6-0 so we were equally wrong, right...

Dave, shame on you. You haven't paid enough of a price admitting you were wrong. We have a place and a thing we'll do to you.....

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/350239953_952604f8bc.jpg

Until WE say you've paid enough, we shall brandish our words and rocks at you. Submit or be banished!

Bronco Warrior
10-20-2009, 08:16 AM
I underestimated ORton too!

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 08:17 AM
i most definitely did not predict 6-0, i know that. i did think the team was on the right path and was excited to see them play it out, but even the most supportive of fans did not predict 6-0, guaranteed. i thought 8-8, 9-7 given the scheme change, personnel turnover and schedule. if we win only 6 of our next 10 games, thast 12-4, which is freaking unbelievable, and given that we still play SD, OAK, KC, WSH, theres 4 games we should easily win. NYG, PHI, Bmore, and PITT have all looked beatable and weak at times, the colts on hte other hand....

orangemonkey
10-20-2009, 08:24 AM
I'm an idiot. I was completely wrong about Kyle and McD! But I never lost faith in Bmarsh. Let's go Broncos!

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 08:31 AM
Brandy... Brandy... Brandy... :thumbs:

i definitely already ate my crow on that :strong:

totally wrong idea to consider starting him

Smiling Assassin27
10-20-2009, 08:39 AM
6-10 is a best case scenario, given this brutal schedule. Indy, Pittsburgh, New England, Ravens, Philly, Cowboys, and the Giants? Son of a....

That was my prediction and, technically, I'm still in the game. Seriously, though, I thought we'd see the win curve jump next year but couldn't see 6-0 this year coming at all. Hand me a drumstick and a beak, please.

OABB
10-20-2009, 08:42 AM
25264

socal....?

Mock....?

Blueflame....?

Spider
10-20-2009, 08:42 AM
;D ........... who cares ..........enjoy this great Bronco season ..........
How great was it to see Rivers get his pie hole shut ?
20-17 at half time , And the Broncos came out and slammed the door shut .........
Doom was all over rivers like a drunk 40+ year old man on a 16 year old girl in a Mississippi trailer park .........

TheDave
10-20-2009, 08:43 AM
i definitely already ate my crow on that :strong:

totally wrong idea to consider starting him

everyone missed this season... ESPECIALLY me.


No one thought this team would be undefeated through 6

No one thought our Defense would be the #1 D in the league.

Hell, the highest win total I saw all offeason was 10-6...The vast majority of people in this place had us at about .500. As of now, if we managed to **** the bed and only play .500 ball for the rest of the year we would be 11-5.


What we have seen so far is unbelievable... Let's enjoy it while it lasts.

Irish Stout
10-20-2009, 08:46 AM
I'm an idiot. I was completely wrong about Kyle and McD! But I never lost faith in Bmarsh. Let's go Broncos!

I lost faith in BMarsh. I really did. I cannot believe the repoire and respect that he has for his teammates and coach now and vice versa. What a great turn around there.


Really, though, what a great season... even if we have struggles after this point you have to believe that McD has the ability to pull people together for a common goal. It hase been a long time since I have been this excited about the Broncos!

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 08:47 AM
everyone missed this season... ESPECIALLY me.


No one thought this team would be undefeated through 6

No one thought our Defense would be the #1 D in the league.

Hell, the highest win total I saw all offeason was 10-6...The vast majority of people in this place had us at about .500. As of now, if we managed to **** the bed and only play .500 ball for the rest of the year we would be 11-5.


What we have seen so far is unbelievable... Let's enjoy it while it lasts.

the only difference is, and the REAL issue that mcdaniels supporters have, is all the people who spent all offseason trying to downplay mcd and everything he did, hes the worst coach ever set this team back 10 years etc. and they had to take every chance they could to tell people who supported this team that we are blind homer koolaid drinkers for giving mcd a chance to coach, and win, games. questioning the moves he made was one thing, declaring his whole head coaching tenure a failure and entire offseason a disaster before letting them play a game is completley different.

bronco610
10-20-2009, 08:48 AM
;D ........... who cares ..........enjoy this great Bronco season ..........
How great was it to see Rivers get his pie hole shut ?
20-17 at half time , And the Broncos came out and slammed the door shut .........
Doom was all over rivers like a drunk 40+ year old man on a 16 year old girl in a Mississippi trailer park .........

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Peoples Champ
10-20-2009, 08:49 AM
I was definately a jackass, but I am not proud of it. I wish I thought we were going to be this good going into the year, but I guess I was just too nervous to take a stand. Boy was I wrong. The biggest thing to prove me wrong was Kyle Orton. I thought our D would improve a litttle, but never thought Kyle Orton would be this good. I WAS WRONG.

OABB
10-20-2009, 08:50 AM
The only thing I have been a jackass about has been Phillip Rivers.

That guy is a damn good qb, and last night he really impressed me even in the loss.

I was so blinded by hate that I ignored the fact that the guy is tough as nails and accurate as hell.

This thread is a cool way to wash away our sins.

Also I want to confess that I actually enjoy Tsiguy....I think he is a solid poster....


also, one time at band camp....

TheDave
10-20-2009, 08:52 AM
the only difference is, and the REAL issue that mcdaniels supporters have, is all the people who spent all offseason trying to downplay mcd and everything he did, hes the worst coach ever set this team back 10 years etc. and they had to take every chance they could to tell people who supported this team that we are blind homer koolaid drinkers for giving mcd a chance to coach, and win, games. questioning the moves he made was one thing, declaring his whole head coaching tenure a failure and entire offseason a disaster before letting them play a game is completley different.

Well, at some point the "McDaniels suporters" are going to have to get over it...

Peoples Champ
10-20-2009, 08:54 AM
The only thing I have been a jackass about has been Phillip Rivers.

That guy is a damn good qb, and last night he really impressed me even in the loss.

I was so blinded by hate that I ignored the fact that the guy is tough as nails and accurate as hell.

This thread is a cool way to wash away our sins.

Also I want to confess that I actually enjoy Tsiguy....I think he is a solid poster....


also, one time at band camp....

I still dont like his attitude, just like I dont like Cutlers. I wish there were more Kyle Ortons in this world.

OABB
10-20-2009, 09:26 AM
I still dont like his attitude, just like I dont like Cutlers. I wish there were more Kyle Ortons in this world.

amen.

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 09:27 AM
Well, at some point the "McDaniels suporters" are going to have to get over it...

im getting close, i think the "haters" have learned their lesson ^5:wave:

OABB
10-20-2009, 09:31 AM
im getting close, i think the "haters" have learned their lesson ^5:wave:

i could stand to read some more pwnage...


we have to beat these guys down so they learn not to react like spoiled women when change happens. It will serve to benefit humanity.

letting these wusses off the hook so easy will only make them worse.

it's time to take your medicine all of you pussies that quit on our team.

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 09:37 AM
i could stand to read some more pwnage...


we have to beat these guys down so they learn not to react like spoiled women when change happens. It will serve to benefit humanity.

letting these wusses off the hook so easy will only make them worse.

it's time to take your medicine all of you pussies that quit on our team.

thats the thing, they dont get "beat down" they just get more defiant of people who actually supported the team through the whole offseason, and will do it even worse next time. dont ask me why, but thats what will happen. some of them have eaten full servings of crow, and i think in those cases they will not jump to conclusions so fast, because i think everyone on this forum, including supporters, learned one thing: we dont know jack **** about football compared to the guys running this team, to completely and defiantly hate what they do and act lke it has no reasoning is beyond silly.

baja
10-20-2009, 09:44 AM
I would like to eat some crow


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But I have been right about everything ;D

TheDave
10-20-2009, 09:46 AM
Hey you guys carring this on as long as you want... Now pardon me while I go and enjoy that whole 6-0 thing.

tsiguy96
10-20-2009, 09:51 AM
I would like to eat some crow


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But I have been right about everything ;D

:alky:

broncocalijohn
10-20-2009, 09:59 AM
It is one thing to be totally WRONG about this team. The coach, the QB, the owner, etc. Some of the naysayers have a problem with admiting those issues that they were wrong. There is no problem of thinking this team will go 8-8 at best but be positive in the direction the team is heading. The problem was those that would draw a line in the sand after every game. They drew a new one every week and the reason you dont hear from them (or still make excuses for themselves) is because they took too many steps back and fell right off the cliff.

Kaylore
10-20-2009, 10:01 AM
You people didn't even give him a chance. Half of you made up your mind after the first preseason game, and the other half had your minds made up in March. I'll say it: You were all being stupid and overreacting because you worship the QB like he's Jesus, especially if he has a big arm. It's a team game.

Rohirrim
10-20-2009, 10:02 AM
I was happy to wave goodbye to Shanahan and Cutler and happy to see McD come in and take over. Still, I thought they wouldn't do much better than five wins. I don't see how anybody else could have either, especially given the last three games of last season and having a whole new philosophy installed on both sides of the ball. So color me shocked. I would never have expected 6 and 0. I'm enjoying it immensely. Nothing to apologize for. And if Baja keeps mouthing off about it, I'm giving him one of these:
:nutkick

CEH
10-20-2009, 10:11 AM
I've decided that I will only listen to Adam Shefter from this point forward
Every other media head has no clue

From AS before the season started

Quote:
"He's getting a lot of heat now, but someone who knows coaches well predicted to me that McDaniels is going to be one of the greatest NFL coaches ever. Strong words, I know, and we'll see. But I think he's going to be a real good one".

- Adam Schefter on Josh McDaniels

baja
10-20-2009, 10:15 AM
I was happy to wave goodbye to Shanahan and Cutler and happy to see McD come in and take over. Still, I thought they wouldn't do much better than five wins. I don't see how anybody else could have either, especially given the last three games of last season and having a whole new philosophy installed on both sides of the ball. So color me shocked. I would never have expected 6 and 0. I'm enjoying it immensely. Nothing to apologize for. And if Baja keeps mouthing off about it, I'm giving him one of these:
:nutkick

If one was to say 6 & 0 before the season started than you could say that was a shiit lucky guess. I didn't make that 6 & 0 claim until I had watched two games and by them you could see this team was going to be special as to playing hard for 4 quarters and playing for each other. I felt we were going to surprise a lot of people but predicting 6 & 0 can only be classified as a studied but shiit lucky guess none the less. ;D

What I find interesting is the posters that over reacted in the beginning of the season are still over reacting when it comes to taking some friendly ribbing now.

baja
10-20-2009, 10:17 AM
I've decided that I will only listen to Adam Shefter from this point forward
Every other media head has no clue

From AS before the season started

Quote:
"He's getting a lot of heat now, but someone who knows coaches well predicted to me that McDaniels is going to be one of the greatest NFL coaches ever. Strong words, I know, and we'll see. But I think he's going to be a real good one".

- Adam Schefter on Josh McDaniels

ya he was at the farmers market too I told him that over coffee and a turkey sandwich. I didn't know he passed that on in print, did he give me credit?

Meck77
10-20-2009, 10:28 AM
It's just easier to be a Bronco fan and hope for the best. Been doing that for 30 years and occasionally we make the SB and win it.

BroncoBuff
10-20-2009, 10:31 AM
I was WAAAY wrong on:

1. The defensive line
2. Kyle Orton (although in preseason I can't see how anybody liked him)
3. My 6-8 win prediction
4. McD's general manager performance

I am happily wrong on all these counts! Knowitall

baja
10-20-2009, 10:58 AM
I was WAAAY wrong on:

1. The defensive line
2. Kyle Orton (although in preseason I can't see how anybody liked him)
3. My 6-8 win prediction
4. McD's general manager performance

I am happily wrong on all these counts! Knowitall

You forgot to mention that Cutler sucks. ;D

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-20-2009, 11:09 AM
you people are most certainly odd getting all worked up over keep cutler shanny group vs the get rid of the bums group doncha think you should i dont know calm down. relax instead of jumpin up n down like a monkey on crack and caffeine sayin see see we pro McDaniels people are right and anointed by god.
helll i love the broncos and i was thinkin most wins we would ever get was like 5 or 6 since i thought we was going to be doing some major rebuilding after that lil boy packed up and left denver to go to chicago and shanny was fired. i am glad im wrong thou, along with the time i was wrong with my opinion we should of kept dan reeves not fire wade phillips not hire mike shannahan. im wrong quite often

Rohirrim
10-20-2009, 11:14 AM
Well, I thought the Tommy Maddox thing was a big mistake. So I've got that going for me. ;D

baja
10-20-2009, 11:17 AM
you people are most certainly odd getting all worked up over keep cutler shanny group vs the get rid of the bums group doncha think you should i dont know calm down. relax instead of jumpin up n down like a monkey on crack and caffeine sayin see see we pro McDaniels people are right and anointed by god.
helll i love the broncos and i was thinkin most wins we would ever get was like 5 or 6 since i thought we was going to be doing some major rebuilding after that lil boy packed up and left denver to go to chicago and shanny was fired. i am glad im wrong thou, along with the time i was wrong with my opinion we should of kept dan reeves not fire wade phillips not hire mike shannahan. im wrong quite often

So are you a real fan?

Spider
10-20-2009, 11:18 AM
Well, I thought the Tommy Maddox thing was a big mistake. So I've got that going for me. ;D

:rofl:

OBF1
10-20-2009, 11:22 AM
I want to start this post with the following disclaimer: I never gave up on my Broncos and always backed ownership and the new coaching staff.... That said, I thought we were going to be a 6-8 win team this season. Looking at the schedule and figuring it would take a team in transition a year to gel and improve.

I have no problems with the fans that thoughy the team would not be very good this season, I had problems with the posters that kept bad mouthing Pat Bowlen and expecially those that started pissing all over our new head coach before he even coached a single game.... Guess McDaniels showed them who sucks and who knows NFL football, Right Blue/Mock/SoCal/TheRev/Rastabiotch :)

HEAV
10-20-2009, 11:26 AM
25264

socal....?

Mock....?

Blueflame....?

LOL

Sadly the list is longer than just these three flamers. Some rats are hide'n in their respective holes and have locked the doors. Maybe they will come out after a loss...or Offseason 2010...:wave:

Broncos4tw
10-20-2009, 11:28 AM
I was harsh on McD, and Orton as well. I'm sold on Josh, although he still has some maturing to do as a HC, and I am mostly sold on Orton. Not 100%, but almost there. Dunno what it is about the Orton Factor, but the dude just wins games.

As far as eating crow, apologizing, or anthing like that.. screw that crap. I predicted 6 to 8 wins tops, and I stand by that. Obviously that isn't going to happen, but it certainly appeared that way. And I was PO'd because I love this team so much, and I felt as if were utterly dismantling it, sending it back years. Of course, this sentiment was shared by many analysts, who felt that Denver was in for a long rebuilding stage.

But I give credit where it is due. And you EARN respect. You don't just deserve it by virtue of getting a job. Josh is earning respect now, as is Orton, as it should be, and I'll not make any apologies for expecting that.

Of course, all bets are off if you are talking about folks who were just rude and nasty about the whole thing. : p

Drek
10-20-2009, 11:31 AM
I was WAAAY wrong on:

1. The defensive line
2. Kyle Orton (although in preseason I can't see how anybody liked him)
3. My 6-8 win prediction
4. McD's general manager performance

I am happily wrong on all these counts! Knowitall

On #2:
I said repeatedly on this forum that people where blowing the preseason games out of proportion, that McDaniels tests his QB's limits in preseason games unlike Shanahan who used them as a conservative dry run setting. I cited the example of Matt Cassel, a guy who had been Brady's understudy for three years in NE, ****ting the bed all preseason last year and then stepping up when called on in the regular season.

I liked him because I knew what Orton had for skills, what McDaniels' system called for, and how well the two meshed together. McDaniels forcing Orton to play outside his comfort zone in games that didn't matter wasn't going to dissuade me from believing in that being an ideal pairing.

#4 is just a case of people buying into the media's off-season hype where they try and act like every team could fix all their problems with the right signings. Most off-seasons the talent pool isn't deep enough or varied enough to fix them all, you need to fix what you can and hope you find some diamonds in the rough for the rest.

Same goes for the draft. ESPN, NFL Network, etc. all try and sell the draft as some quick fix where a team that has needs at X position should be able to draft an immediate starter. That doesn't happen very often even with first rounders, yet "draft gurus" keep acting like well into the second day teams need to be drafting for needs.

What will really blow people's minds about McDaniels' management is when we do finally start having some key injuries or older guys fall off a cliff (next season or the year after) and all of a sudden a young guy steps in and takes over his role without the rest of the unit breaking stride. He's building layers of youth behind solid vets so that the message of "just do your job" has an attached subtext of "and this is how you do it".

HEAV
10-20-2009, 11:33 AM
I was harsh on McD, and Orton as well. I'm sold on Josh, although he still has some maturing to do as a HC, and I am mostly sold on Orton. Not 100%, but almost there. Dunno what it is about the Orton Factor, but the dude just wins games.

As far as eating crow, apologizing, or anthing like that.. screw that crap. I predicted 6 to 8 wins tops, and I stand by that. Obviously that isn't going to happen, but it certainly appeared that way. And I was PO'd because I love this team so much, and I felt as if were utterly dismantling it, sending it back years. Of course, this sentiment was shared by many analysts, who felt that Denver was in for a long rebuilding stage.

But I give credit where it is due. And you EARN respect. You don't just deserve it by virtue of getting a job. Josh is earning respect now, as is Orton, as it should be, and I'll not make any apologies for expecting that.

Of course, all bets are off if you are talking about folks who were just rude and nasty about the whole thing. : p

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baja
10-20-2009, 11:33 AM
I want to start this post with the following disclaimer: I never gave up on my Broncos and always backed ownership and the new coaching staff.... That said, I thought we were going to be a 6-8 win team this season. Looking at the schedule and figuring it would take a team in transition a year to gel and improve.

I have no problems with the fans that thoughy the team would not be very good this season, I had problems with the posters that kept bad mouthing Pat Bowlen and expecially those that started pissing all over our new head coach before he even coached a single game.... Guess McDaniels showed them who sucks and who knows NFL football, Right Blue/Mock/SoCal/TheRev/Rastabiotch :)

No no you said 4 wins you can't change it now

Mr. Elway
10-20-2009, 11:46 AM
you people are most certainly odd getting all worked up over keep cutler shanny group vs the get rid of the bums group doncha think you should i dont know calm down. relax instead of jumpin up n down like a monkey on crack and caffeine sayin see see we pro McDaniels people are right and anointed by god.
helll i love the broncos and i was thinkin most wins we would ever get was like 5 or 6 since i thought we was going to be doing some major rebuilding after that lil boy packed up and left denver to go to chicago and shanny was fired. i am glad im wrong thou, along with the time i was wrong with my opinion we should of kept dan reeves not fire wade phillips not hire mike shannahan. im wrong quite often

Wow, your writing is atrocious.

Paladin
10-20-2009, 11:48 AM
:pray:

Bless them, Father, for they have sinned..........

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Wow, your writing is atrocious.

awww :thanku: i love you too why dont you be my living spell checker ok.

broncocalijohn
10-20-2009, 11:09 PM
Wow, your writing is atrocious.

we keep trying to tell him. He finally got the courage to start posting a few months back and someone told him to keep it up. The more positive reinforcements he receives, the longer the post are (and also longer the run on sentences). Good luck on him listening. He just broke his record on longest dribble that wasnt on a basketball court.
Memo to Dan. It just isnt about the spelling. You would make any of your English teachers die if they saw your posts.

BroncoBuff
10-20-2009, 11:42 PM
I liked him because I knew what Orton had for skills, what McDaniels' system called for, and how well the two meshed together. McDaniels forcing Orton to play outside his comfort zone in games that didn't matter wasn't going to dissuade me from believing in that being an ideal pairing.
If there's such a thing as "reverse crow," you get a HUGE helping for Kyle Orton, you were on that guy from Jump Street.

I remember you defending him after horrible preseason games and wondering, 'did Drek go to Purdue, or what?' :~ohyah!:

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-21-2009, 12:35 AM
So are you a real fan?

well i remember the time elway was hurt so we ended up that year playing some black qb and some other qb . they alternated tween plays it seems like. then there was the time Minnesota had a 3rd and forever at mile hi they decided to just run the ball and get a few yards they wound up getting a first down and change.
another memory i have is sitting thru the first superbowl john elway played in and the safety he got. it was the first time i seen the broncos and i felt kinda bad for em losing so i became a fan. so does this prove im a fan or would ya want more stories of my memories of the broncos. i could go on and on i got alot of memories

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-21-2009, 12:37 AM
we keep trying to tell him. He finally got the courage to start posting a few months back and someone told him to keep it up. The more positive reinforcements he receives, the longer the post are (and also longer the run on sentences). Good luck on him listening. He just broke his record on longest dribble that wasnt on a basketball court.
Memo to Dan. It just isnt about the spelling. You would make any of your English teachers die if they saw your posts.

awwwwwwwwwwwwww i still love you your such a grammar Nazi.Hilarious!

Rock Chalk
10-21-2009, 12:47 AM
awwwwwwwwwwwwww i still love you your such a grammar Nazi.Hilarious!

its you're such a grammar Nazi.

Just a FYI.

Rock Chalk
10-21-2009, 12:49 AM
If there's such a thing as "reverse crow," you get a HUGE helping for Kyle Orton, you were on that guy from Jump Street.

I remember you defending him after horrible preseason games and wondering, 'did Drek go to Purdue, or what?' :~ohyah!:

No, Drek is just smarter than most of the posters here.

He's probably my favorite poster on this site anymore. Him, Herc and Mediator (even though Mediator's love for Peyton Manning is a bit nauseating at times).

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-21-2009, 01:25 AM
its you're such a grammar Nazi.

Just a FYI.
thank

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DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-21-2009, 01:26 AM
aint that greeet

Drek
10-21-2009, 03:32 AM
If there's such a thing as "reverse crow," you get a HUGE helping for Kyle Orton, you were on that guy from Jump Street.

I remember you defending him after horrible preseason games and wondering, 'did Drek go to Purdue, or what?' :~ohyah!:

I actually wanted us to grab him from Chicago when they gave Grossman the job back and signed Griese to slot in as the #2 over Orton. That was three years ago or so.

He's got a better arm than a lot of people on here gave him credit for, he's a big QB, and he's got what it takes above the shoulders to never lose you a game and in the right situations do a lot to help win them.

If we had him as our backup behind Cutler last year maybe we don't get smoke showed in NE when Cutler busts up his hand. Maybe we put some legitimate pressure on Cutler to learn not to make so many bonehead plays, knowing that a guy his age who doesn't throw those red zone picks is looking for a chance to start. Instead we set up paper tigers for Cutler to "compete" in camp with despite Mike's constant preaching of competition across the board being so vital.

I also wanted us to grab David Garrard after the '04 season when he was a free agent. He's got the perfect skillset for Shanahan's offense and would have given us someone to develop and eventually replace Plummer with. Instead he resigned with Jacksonville for peanuts because no one really expressed interest. Now he's not elite but then he is also playing in Jacksonville. You put him here in Denver with the same surrounding cast and Haloti Ngata on the DL instead of drafting Jay. How much better does the '06 and '07 seasons look then?

This is one thing I expect from McDaniels and will very much enjoy seeing. Despite Orton looking very good as our starter we have Simms behind him and Brandstater as 3rd string. I fully expect us to draft another QB in either next year's draft or the one after that, unless Kevin O'Connell is released by the Jets, in which case we'll pick him up. The QB position can't be treated as this holier than thou position. Everyone needs competition and everyone needs a competent backup who can step in and do the job.

Rock Chalk
10-21-2009, 07:50 AM
I actually wanted us to grab him from Chicago when they gave Grossman the job back and signed Griese to slot in as the #2 over Orton. That was three years ago or so.

He's got a better arm than a lot of people on here gave him credit for, he's a big QB, and he's got what it takes above the shoulders to never lose you a game and in the right situations do a lot to help win them.

If we had him as our backup behind Cutler last year maybe we don't get smoke showed in NE when Cutler busts up his hand. Maybe we put some legitimate pressure on Cutler to learn not to make so many bonehead plays, knowing that a guy his age who doesn't throw those red zone picks is looking for a chance to start. Instead we set up paper tigers for Cutler to "compete" in camp with despite Mike's constant preaching of competition across the board being so vital.

I also wanted us to grab David Garrard after the '04 season when he was a free agent. He's got the perfect skillset for Shanahan's offense and would have given us someone to develop and eventually replace Plummer with. Instead he resigned with Jacksonville for peanuts because no one really expressed interest. Now he's not elite but then he is also playing in Jacksonville. You put him here in Denver with the same surrounding cast and Haloti Ngata on the DL instead of drafting Jay. How much better does the '06 and '07 seasons look then?

This is one thing I expect from McDaniels and will very much enjoy seeing. Despite Orton looking very good as our starter we have Simms behind him and Brandstater as 3rd string. I fully expect us to draft another QB in either next year's draft or the one after that, unless Kevin O'Connell is released by the Jets, in which case we'll pick him up. The QB position can't be treated as this holier than thou position. Everyone needs competition and everyone needs a competent backup who can step in and do the job.

Compelling, but the fatal flaw in this logic is, we are still stuck with Bob Slowik and Shanahan likely.

I'll not change teh course of events as those events led to the hiring of McDaniels and I am happy about that.

Drek
10-21-2009, 08:03 AM
Compelling, but the fatal flaw in this logic is, we are still stuck with Bob Slowik and Shanahan likely.

I'll not change teh course of events as those events led to the hiring of McDaniels and I am happy about that.

I wouldn't either, but Coyer might just hang onto that job a little longer if we gave him Haloti Ngata heading into 2006.

I don't wish for that alternate path. I think Shanahan lost the hunger and that is the primary reason he's out of here. I'm just pointing out how viewing players like puzzle pieces, in terms of their different skills, and determining what fits your puzzle is a much more effective method than trying to view them as these all in one multi-tools that fit in every scheme or system.

David Garrard was a Shanahan model QB. He's a good QB regardless, but he could have been elite in Shanahan's system. That said I wouldn't trade Kyle Orton for him straight up, no way in hell. Garrard isn't a McDaniels system QB while Orton is.

Its all about fits in this league. Its not about star players or even star coaches. Its about a cohesive organization that says "this is the style of team we want, who fits that style?" When all eleven guys on both sides of the ball are ideally suited to their individual jobs it becomes much easier to scheme ways to protect their inevitable flaws and at the same time to exploit the flaws of the opposition.

Rohirrim
10-21-2009, 08:05 AM
I wouldn't either, but Coyer might just hang onto that job a little longer if we gave him Haloti Ngata heading into 2006.

I don't wish for that alternate path. I think Shanahan lost the hunger and that is the primary reason he's out of here. I'm just pointing out how viewing players like puzzle pieces, in terms of their different skills, and determining what fits your puzzle is a much more effective method than trying to view them as these all in one multi-tools that fit in every scheme or system.

David Garrard was a Shanahan model QB. He's a good QB regardless, but he could have been elite in Shanahan's system. That said I wouldn't trade Kyle Orton for him straight up, no way in hell. Garrard isn't a McDaniels system QB while Orton is.

Its all about fits in this league. Its not about star players or even star coaches. Its about a cohesive organization that says "this is the style of team we want, who fits that style?" When all eleven guys on both sides of the ball are ideally suited to their individual jobs it becomes much easier to scheme ways to protect their inevitable flaws and at the same time to exploit the flaws of the opposition.

Looks like we have another Bellichick convert! ;D

kamakazi_kal
10-21-2009, 08:10 AM
Division race: Over.

My doubts about the Broncos: Over.

The Broncos and McDaniels are proving to many people, me included, that we have no idea what to expect each and every NFL season. Anybody outside the Rocky Mountain region not named McDaniels who thought this would be a playoff team is lying worse than that balloon fool.

Drek
10-21-2009, 08:21 AM
Looks like we have another Bellichick convert! ;D

Convert? I've been singing the same ol' song and dance for years, much of it on this board.

Bellichick is a douche but growing up in New England, seeing what the Pats typically where, and then seeing how they turned around with Parcells running the show, dropped off when he left, and bounced back with Bellhicick? Its pretty obvious what wins football games, and it isn't collecting big name superstars like in the NBA.

Rohirrim
10-21-2009, 08:24 AM
Convert? I've been singing the same ol' song and dance for years, much of it on this board.

Bellichick is a douche but growing up in New England, seeing what the Pats typically where, and then seeing how they turned around with Parcells running the show, dropped off when he left, and bounced back with Bellhicick? Its pretty obvious what wins football games, and it isn't collecting big name superstars like in the NBA.

Just a joke. Have a beer. Settle down. We're 6 and 0. :kiss:

I agree completely. The Snyder plan is an uber-fail. Although I do like the idea of having playmakers here and there. I don't care for superstars with superegos (TO, etc.) but what I wouldn't give for a Polamalu or a Bob Sanders... :oyvey:

Drek
10-21-2009, 08:45 AM
Just a joke. Have a beer. Settle down. We're 6 and 0. :kiss:

I agree completely. The Snyder plan is an uber-fail. Although I do like the idea of having playmakers here and there. I don't care for superstars with superegos (TO, etc.) but what I wouldn't give for a Polamalu or a Bob Sanders... :oyvey:

I'm always pretty relaxed, just pointing out the fact that this was the same stuff I was saying all off-season.

Like Andre Goodman over Dre Bly. Bly's skill set is that of a #1 corner who can take risks to make big plays. That is Champ Bailey's role here. What we needed opposite Champ is a guy who is steady and doesn't give up the big play. That is Andre Goodman.

And yes, we do need to have some playmakers, but the key for guys like Polamalu, Ed Reed, etc. is the supporting cast doesn't make mistakes. They fit their roles perfectly and do their jobs, that allows your playmakers to step outside the system and make plays without it exposing you too badly.

The last few years we've seen our playmakers (mostly Champ) have to use all their diverse talents to cover up the failings of their surrounding teammates. Now that the guys around them are doing their jobs correctly they can stop looking around for chinks in our armor and instead look for chinks in the opposition that they can exploit for the big play.

Anyone wonder why DJ is suddenly looking like a pro-bowler at ILB, despite not being nearly as impressive at MLB for Bates? Now he doesn't need to pick up the trash of guys like Winborn and Webster.

Rohirrim
10-21-2009, 08:52 AM
I'm always pretty relaxed, just pointing out the fact that this was the same stuff I was saying all off-season.

Like Andre Goodman over Dre Bly. Bly's skill set is that of a #1 corner who can take risks to make big plays. That is Champ Bailey's role here. What we needed opposite Champ is a guy who is steady and doesn't give up the big play. That is Andre Goodman.

And yes, we do need to have some playmakers, but the key for guys like Polamalu, Ed Reed, etc. is the supporting cast doesn't make mistakes. They fit their roles perfectly and do their jobs, that allows your playmakers to step outside the system and make plays without it exposing you too badly.

The last few years we've seen our playmakers (mostly Champ) have to use all their diverse talents to cover up the failings of their surrounding teammates. Now that the guys around them are doing their jobs correctly they can stop looking around for chinks in our armor and instead look for chinks in the opposition that they can exploit for the big play.

Anyone wonder why DJ is suddenly looking like a pro-bowler at ILB, despite not being nearly as impressive at MLB for Bates? Now he doesn't need to pick up the trash of guys like Winborn and Webster.

Yeah, but we don't get to watch as many celebrations and helmet tosses. :oyvey: Look what this D has done for Dumervil? He has been set free. And DJ has suddenly "woke up" hasn't he? ;D I remember every season wondering, "When is this guy going to play up to his potential?" Now it's pretty easy to see what the hangup was, and it wasn't with DJ. What I wouldn't give to get a killer NT next year (like Mount Cody). This D would become friggin nuclear.

Pick Six
10-21-2009, 09:06 AM
I know there were several doubters on this board, but not many of us predicted we would be undefeated at this point in the season...AND looking impressive. I was NEVER one of the people who said we were being set back a decade with the McDaniels hire, but I still thought it was going to be a rebuilding year. I'm thoroughly enjoying this ride...:gobroncos

Drek
10-21-2009, 09:13 AM
Yeah, but we don't get to watch as many celebrations and helmet tosses. :oyvey: Look what this D has done for Dumervil? He has been set free. And DJ has suddenly "woke up" hasn't he? ;D I remember every season wondering, "When is this guy going to play up to his potential?" Now it's pretty easy to see what the hangup was, and it wasn't with DJ. What I wouldn't give to get a killer NT next year (like Mount Cody). This D would become friggin nuclear.

Can't discount the job Ron Fields is doing, but yes, a big mammoth beast who can spell him at NT and develop into our long term starter would be excellent, especially since Fields as DE experience in a 3-4 so in short yardage situations we could easily rotate him out to DE and let the young NT play the nose, really putting some beef on the line.

I think you can also attribute some of DJ's coming out to having a guy like Andra Davis next to him. DJ looked like a beast when playing next to a smart, fundamentally sound guy like Al Wilson and I don't think its any coincidence that finally putting another high football IQ teammate next to him has yielded similar results.

oubronco
10-21-2009, 09:27 AM
;D ........... who cares ..........enjoy this great Bronco season ..........
How great was it to see Rivers get his pie hole shut ?
20-17 at half time , And the Broncos came out and slammed the door shut .........
Doom was all over rivers like a drunk 40+ year old man on a 16 year old girl in a Mississippi trailer park .........

memories?

Pony Boy
10-21-2009, 11:00 AM
All is forgiven..............