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Rock Chalk
10-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Sorry if this was posted...


http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2009/10/taylor_had_surg.html

FOXBOROUGH -- Patriots running back Fred Taylor underwent surgery today to repair severe ligament damage in his right ankle and could miss the rest of the season, according to a league source.

The 33-year-old Taylor, who is the team's leading rusher this season through four games with 201 yards on 45 carries and two touchdowns, is facing the likelihood of being done for the year, according to the source. But there is a small chance that Taylor could return during the final month of the regular season depending on how his recovery progresses.

Taylor sustained an eversion ankle sprain -- meaning he rolled his ankle to the outside -- on his final carry in the Patriots' 27-21 win over the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. Taylor, who finished the game with seven carries for 25 yards, hobbled to the sideline following the 3-yard run with under five minutes left in the fourth quarter.

He did not return and was absent from practice on Wednesday.

Taylor's ankle surgery was done by Dr. George Theodore, the same surgeon who reconstructed the ruptured peroneal tendon sheath of former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling in 2004, after Schilling famously pitched in the playoffs and World Series that year with sutures to hold the tendon in place, allowing him to help the Red Sox to their first World Series title in 86 years.

Taylor, who is in his 12th NFL season, joined the Patriots this season, signing a two-year, $5 million deal. He had spent the previous 11 seasons with the Jacksonville Jaguars. In 2005, he missed four games for Jacksonville with what was initially referred to as a sprained right ankle, but after further tests the Jaguars re-classified the injury as a bone bruise.

The last time Taylor played in all 16 games of a season was 2003, when he was in the middle of a stretch of 46 consecutive starts. However, in both 2006 and 2007 he played in 15 games, and in '07 the only game he missed was the season-finale, when he was a healthy deactivation as Jacksonville prepared for the playoffs.

Last season, Taylor missed three games with a torn ligament in his thumb.

His absence leaves the Patriots with Laurence Maroney, Kevin Faulk, Sammy Morris and BenJarvus Green-Ellis, who has been a healthy inactive in three of the team's four games, including the last two, as their stable of running backs.

Los Broncos
10-08-2009, 10:36 PM
NE is going to throw the **** out of the ball this Sunday.

Dagmar
10-08-2009, 10:47 PM
NE is going to throw the **** out of the ball this Sunday.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HN3tigaU1Bk/SEaKdkt8n2I/AAAAAAAACjg/oIZf2IrSQ9o/s320/champ_bailey.jpg

Los Broncos
10-08-2009, 10:49 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HN3tigaU1Bk/SEaKdkt8n2I/AAAAAAAACjg/oIZf2IrSQ9o/s320/champ_bailey.jpg

Champ is the man!

BroncoMan4ever
10-08-2009, 10:54 PM
NE is going to throw the **** out of the ball this Sunday.

Brady meet the Denver secondary that you are going to be forced to challenge. You're ****ed, you just don't know it yet.

azbroncfan
10-08-2009, 10:57 PM
Sammy Morris ususally has a good game against Denver. Faulk catches a bunch of those arrow, and checkdown routes. I expect Brady to air it out.

Rock Chalk
10-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Considering the forecast calls for snow, airing it out may not be a great option for New England.

Could be to our advantage.

BMarsh615
10-08-2009, 10:59 PM
Brady meet the Denver secondary that you are going to be forced to challenge. You're ****ed, you just don't know it yet.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=21795&d=1216319335

broncofan2438
10-08-2009, 10:59 PM
Airing it out might be decided by the weather as well. Our secondary better be ready for an air attack

azbroncfan
10-08-2009, 11:04 PM
Considering the forecast calls for snow, airing it out may not be a great option for New England.

Could be to our advantage.

Snow is great for passing as the defenders have the disadvantage not knowing which way the recievers are going.

Paladin
10-08-2009, 11:12 PM
That goes on both sides of the ball? For both teams? Or is this one of those things that works only for the Pats?

Rock Chalk
10-08-2009, 11:40 PM
Snow is great for passing as the defenders have the disadvantage not knowing which way the recievers are going.

Not necessarily. The cold weather makes the ball harder, harder to throw, harder to catch. It also makes footing for both receiver and defender more difficult. I've seen it many times on both sides of the ball. Wet balls are easier to drop too.

There is a reason why, late in the season, teams from the north run the ball more than they pass by a large margin.

epicSocialism4tw
10-08-2009, 11:42 PM
I cant wait to see Brian Dawkins light someone up in the snow. That dude is made for crappy conditions.

ZONA
10-09-2009, 01:50 AM
nice try Taylor. But when your 45 you don't usually last too long in the NFL. Hahhahhaha. Seriously, he's old for a RB. He makes LT look like a rookie.

cutthemdown
10-09-2009, 01:57 AM
I think this is bigger then buck missing the game. We have Moreno, they have Moroney. Maroney just not looking good. I think Broncos going to eat him for lunch that day.

ZONA
10-09-2009, 02:02 AM
I think this is bigger then buck missing the game. We have Moreno, they have Moroney. Maroney just not looking good. I think Broncos going to eat him for lunch that day.


Yeah, I can't put my finger on that one. Moroney looked really good last year. I just don't see him making as many plays so far this year. But he's got the talent to turn it on so I'm not gonna say we're going to shut this guy down. But I would say we hold the Pats to under 100 yds rushing.

cutthemdown
10-09-2009, 02:08 AM
Yeah, I can't put my finger on that one. Moroney looked really good last year. I just don't see him making as many plays so far this year. But he's got the talent to turn it on so I'm not gonna say we're going to shut this guy down. But I would say we hold the Pats to under 100 yds rushing.

He's running like he can't make up his mind. He seems afraid to lower shoulders and run into people. He slows down, he makes moves in backfield instead of hitting hole etc etc. I'm not sure Broncos defense the best one to try and solve those problems against as we seem really mean and fast to the ball this yr.

I doubt NE even tries to establish the run early. They are coming out in shotgun, and they are throwing it 40 times or more.

Broncosfreak_56
10-09-2009, 02:10 AM
Might as well post this badass Dawkins pic in here as well.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2009/1007/20091007_092344_sp08woody_dawkins.jpg

BroncoDoug
10-09-2009, 02:14 AM
Might as well post this badass Dawkins pic in here as well.

http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=2671756

ummm... I'm pretty sure you should be posting that everywhere...

BroncoMan4ever
10-09-2009, 02:22 AM
I think this is bigger then buck missing the game. We have Moreno, they have Moroney. Maroney just not looking good. I think Broncos going to eat him for lunch that day.

what happened to Maroney? coming out of college he seemed like the most complete back in that draft and was set to light the league on fire. i seem to recall he was the guy we were targeting had we not made a few moves.

cutthemdown
10-09-2009, 02:57 AM
what happened to Maroney? coming out of college he seemed like the most complete back in that draft and was set to light the league on fire. i seem to recall he was the guy we were targeting had we not made a few moves.

I have no idea. My guess would be that his really bad shoulder injury maybe diminished his willingness to lower his head and pound away. Then he had the groin, and the ankle. Who knows maybe he's just soft and lacks the toughness needed.

I don't know but from what I have heard he isn't running with power. I doubt he can outrun the Broncos.

Garcia Bronco
10-09-2009, 06:37 AM
You have to give Taylor props on surviving this long in the NFL. Amazing career.

Beantown Bronco
10-09-2009, 07:16 AM
Yeah, I can't put my finger on that one. Moroney looked really good last year.

Ummmmm, here are his stats from last year:

3 games
28 attempts
93 yards
3.3 yds/carry
0 TDs

Maybe he was a sharp dresser on the sidelines or something.

Old Dude
10-09-2009, 08:27 AM
Morris rushed for 138 against Denver last year.

Smiling Assassin27
10-09-2009, 08:32 AM
Taylor's always been injury prone, but his talent makes him attractive. I guess this is one that finally didn't work out for Bellicheat. I'm distraught.

OK, I'm over it.

Tailgater
10-09-2009, 08:36 AM
The 2nd yr rb will be activated and get some snaps (BJGE a.k.a. 'The Law Firm'). He runs with power and little hesitation.

Maroney has been disappointing. He's great in open space, but seems to be blind when he tries to find a hole, no matter how big it is.

loborugger
10-09-2009, 08:42 AM
Fred Taylor out for the season? Really? I am shocked. This has only happened like, 10 times in his career. Fred Taylor is what TD woulda become had TD held on and tried to keep playing. 4 games here, 5 games there. Every so often, he would have a spectacular day here and there to remind you of what was and coulda been.

Beantown Bronco
10-09-2009, 08:55 AM
Morris rushed for 138 against Denver last year.

So did my grandmother.

Beantown Bronco
10-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Maroney has been disappointing. He's great in open space, but seems to be blind when he tries to find a hole, no matter how big it is.

Seems like the "anti-Travis Henry", at least in the bedroom.

Garcia Bronco
10-09-2009, 08:58 AM
So did my grandmother.

That's why she's on teh scout team.

Bronco Yoda
10-09-2009, 12:45 PM
Moroney can do some damage when he's not busy dancing around. Here's hoping he continues his 2009 dancing with the LOS.

azbroncfan
10-09-2009, 04:07 PM
Not necessarily. The cold weather makes the ball harder, harder to throw, harder to catch. It also makes footing for both receiver and defender more difficult. I've seen it many times on both sides of the ball. Wet balls are easier to drop too.

There is a reason why, late in the season, teams from the north run the ball more than they pass by a large margin.

Snow in Denver is pretty Dry for the most part. As long as it isn't a blizzard snow helps the passing offense. Marino/Young and a few others have said it is there favorite conditions to play in because the pass rush is not near as effective. It is easier for the WR's to get open even though footing is worse for everyone but since he knows where he is going it is easier for him to dig in. These teams play most of the games in cold weather with a hard ball. I think the notion that north teams run more than south teams is a myth. NE throws the ball all over. Pitt over the past few years is more of a Passing team. San Fran in 80's a passing team. Seattle is west coast offense. Tenn and Miami running teams. Jacksonville running team. Green Bay throws it around a lot also.

Wind is a bigger disadvantage than snow.

gunns
10-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Why the hell was this thread started???

I'm playing Bob this weekend in the Donkey-Chef league and noticed this morning all of his byes are gone but Taylor was still there. Maybe mom had grounded him from watching TV. Thanks for tipping him off!

DB-Freak
10-09-2009, 06:39 PM
You have to give Taylor props on surviving this long in the NFL. Amazing career.

Tremendously talented RB unfortunately riddled with injuries. Im surprised he lasted this long.

Rock Chalk
10-09-2009, 07:31 PM
Why the hell was this thread started???

I'm playing Bob this weekend in the Donkey-Chef league and noticed this morning all of his byes are gone but Taylor was still there. Maybe mom had grounded him from watching TV. Thanks for tipping him off!

Here's some cheese with that whine.

Rock Chalk
10-09-2009, 08:05 PM
Snow in Denver is pretty Dry for the most part. As long as it isn't a blizzard snow helps the passing offense. Marino/Young and a few others have said it is there favorite conditions to play in because the pass rush is not near as effective. It is easier for the WR's to get open even though footing is worse for everyone but since he knows where he is going it is easier for him to dig in. These teams play most of the games in cold weather with a hard ball. I think the notion that north teams run more than south teams is a myth. NE throws the ball all over. Pitt over the past few years is more of a Passing team. San Fran in 80's a passing team. Seattle is west coast offense. Tenn and Miami running teams. Jacksonville running team. Green Bay throws it around a lot also.

Wind is a bigger disadvantage than snow.

Pitt runs the ball more down the stretch, look it up. Even New England did last year down the stretch when the weather turned bad.

San Fran, Seattle, Tennessee, Miami dont see snow, ever. Jacksonville? Seriously? Green Bay ALSO runs the ball at home in incliment weather.

Dude you can THINK whatever you want but STATS back it up. Teams from the north run the ball more in bad weather. The ONLY exception to this rule is when they are far behind and playing catchup and have no choice.

Denver is dry, I will give you that but the moment that snow hits a player or the ball while its attached to the player it becomes wet because snow is WATER. That makes the ball wet.
You make horrible arguments and I expect my 5 thousand dollars from you the moment we reach 8 wins.

azbroncfan
10-09-2009, 08:11 PM
my 5 thousand dollars from you the moment we reach 8 wins.

You need to learn to reread meth head. I said that about San Fran not Denver. How many games a year are there in the snow? Maybe 3? Get your glass d$ck back out.

Snow is ice crystals that only become water once they melt. There is a difference between dry snow(powder) and the wet sh&t snow they get back east.

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There are a handful of snow games off the top of my head where the QB's are airing it out on both sides more than they are running. But stats prove otherwise right Alec. Not saying there isn't times the snow/rain/wind affect it but a lot of times gameplan isn't impacted by snow.

I wasn't saying it snowed in Jacksonville, Tennessee, San Fran. San Fran gets shi% weather and the others are pretty good weather but built to run the football. Pass run ratio is more dependent on the QB and players not the weather of the city teams live in. Put your stats where your mouth is if you can get the crack pipe out and show me how many games Pitt ran the ball more than passed last year. They are a passing team.

bpc
10-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Might as well post this badass Dawkins pic in here as well.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2009/1007/20091007_092344_sp08woody_dawkins.jpg

Damn he looks sweet in the orange and blue. He's been great for us.

broncosteven
10-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Bin-ladenGreenJarvisMoss is the only Patsy RB that scares me.

Didn't he tear us up last year?

BroncoDoug
10-10-2009, 04:01 PM
Bin-ladenGreenJarvisMoss is the only Patsy RB that scares me.

Didn't he tear us up last year?

no it was sammy morris that tore us up

azbroncfan
10-18-2009, 04:05 PM
Considering the forecast calls for snow, airing it out may not be a great option for New England.

Could be to our advantage.

Like I said before when it snows it doesn't necessarily mean running the ball and this is the team that your saying may not want to throw the ball.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291018017

Bronx33
10-18-2009, 04:23 PM
NE is going to throw the **** out of the ball this Sunday.

Nice call brady with 6 TDs so far.

Karenin
10-18-2009, 05:04 PM
except he was referring to last sunday