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Rulon Velvet Jones
10-07-2009, 07:38 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/scouting?gameId=291011007

New England at Denver
When: 4:15 PM ET
Watch: CBS
Preview
More scouting reports: Week 5
Scouts Inc. Position Advantage

QB: NE
RB: DEN
WR: NE
OL: DEN
DL: DEN
LB: NE (?)
DB: NE
ST: NE
Coach: DEN (I had to quadruple check I saw this correctly)


After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week's Patriots-Broncos matchup.


1. New England needs to stay balanced offensively: The Patriots have been much better at keeping defenses off-balance with a mixture of run and pass. They won the time of possession in their Week Four victory with a variety of short and intermediate passes as well as with an interior and perimeter ground assault.

2. Expect the Patriots to involve Welker more this week: Now that Wes Welker is healthy we are likely to see him be a larger part of the game plan in this week's matchup. The Broncos have two excellent corners that can give the New England perimeter targets problems and Welker is most effective out of the slot on short crossing and option routes with effective run-after-catch yards to move the chains.

3. Make Denver one-dimensional on offense: The Broncos have a formidable ground attack averaging 4.7 yards per attempt and Bill Belichick will likely design defensive schemes that will stymie their running game. Look for more zone run blitzes and eight-man fronts from a somewhat depleted Patriots defense.

4. Look for more pressure packages from the Patriots: Putting pressure on Kyle Orton will be a key for a Patriots victory. Orton isn't flashy but hasn't thrown an interception and only has been sacked six times thus far. The Broncos signal caller can be very effective if given time in the pocket, so making him get the ball out quickly will be important.

5. Matchup to watch: Patriots WR Randy Moss vs. Broncos CB Champ Bailey: This should be an outstanding battle between two of the best at their respective positions. Moss has a distinct size advantage on Bailey, especially on jump balls, while Champ has excellent quickness, speed and agility to stay in Moss's hip pocket. If Bailey can take Moss away with single coverage it will give the advantage to the Denver defense, but if Moss makes some big plays early in the contest the momentum will swing in the Patriots' favor.

6. Denver will utilize more early down throws: We should expect more three-step and bootleg schemes in the Broncos' air assault to make third-down conversions more manageable. New England will likely overplay the run and short crossing patterns, as well as slants, so option routes should be available to Orton.

7. More balls going to the Denver playmakers: There is no room for error in this matchup and we should expect a more concerted effort to get the ball to Brandon Marshall, as well as Correll Buckhalter (if he can play) and Knowshon Moreno. Marshall appears to be very focused and showed how explosive he can be in last week's matchup. Meanwhile, both backs have been very effective toting the football as well as receiving passes out of the backfield.

8. Denver needs to flush Brady from the pocket: Brady has been much more effective in the past couple of weeks, as he has had time in the pocket to scan the field. The future Hall-of-Famer is excellent in the pocket but isn't great at improvising when flushed to the perimeter. Look for more middle-backer blitz schemes, as well as edge pressure from a defense that leads the league in sacks with 15.

9. Look for more aggressive alignment and techniques from Denver: The Broncos appear to have the personnel to match up with a talented Patriots receiving corps. We should see more jam techniques and tighter alignments to funnel perimeter targets in coordinator Mike Nolan's aggressive approach.

10. Matchup to watch: Broncos OLB Elvis Dumervil vs. Patriots OT Matt Light: The Broncos racked up five sacks in last week's victory, with Dumervil being the most disruptive force. Elvis doesn't possess great size, but has excellent quickness and a deceptive power to give Light problems protecting Brady's blind side. Look for this battle to have a huge impact on the outcome.


Prediction
New England 23
Denver 24

broncogary
10-07-2009, 07:43 PM
DL: DEN
LB: NE (?)
DB: NE

I think they got these three backward.

lex
10-07-2009, 07:46 PM
Thats a good breakdown. I wouldnt say the Pats have the advantage at DB though.

lostknight
10-07-2009, 07:51 PM
This is a game we should have a distinct advantage in. McDaniel's should know the Patriot's offense weakness up one side and down the other.

uplink
10-07-2009, 07:58 PM
This is a game we should have a distinct advantage in. McDaniel's should know the Patriot's offense weakness up one side and down the other.

Yeah but the Pats know he knows their weakness so well and might be able to predict how he will attack them.

broncogary
10-07-2009, 08:00 PM
I disagree on WR also. The Pats have two excellent receivers. We have much more depth.

RhymesayersDU
10-07-2009, 08:06 PM
I disagree on WR also. The Pats have two excellent receivers. We have much more depth.

We do?

cutthemdown
10-07-2009, 08:17 PM
We win this game and the rest of the league, the networks, the talking heads, are going to freak out.

Irish Stout
10-07-2009, 08:18 PM
We do?

They basically have: Wes Welker, Moss, Galloway, and a couple of dudes you've never really heard of before (Aiken and Edleman)

We have: Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, and Stokely (then McKinley and Lloyd) we
have more depth at WR on our depth chart and I believe in actuallity.

for TEs, they have Ben Watson, Chris Baker and Mike Matthews
We have Scheffler, Graham, and Quinn

Although both Baker and Watson are formidable if left unchecked, I would take Scheff and Graham over those two.

Where NE has an advantage is in receiving backs with: Morris, Faulk, Taylor, and Maroney (is he playing?).

Without Correll, we have Hillis and Moreno as our potential receiving backs.

I think we are decidedly better in receiving positions than the Pats. Moss is more proven than Marshall, but Champ should be on Moss.

HILife
10-07-2009, 08:19 PM
Yeah but the Pats know he knows their weakness so well and might be able to predict how he will attack them.

Yes, but Denver knows, that they know, that Denver knows there weakness, so they will counter by not attacking.

Irish Stout
10-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Yes, but Denver knows, that they know, that Denver knows there weakness, so they will counter by not attacking.

I expect McD will tell our guys to prepare for the things that Patriots aren't going to do, because thats exactly what they will do to confuse McD. Belicheat will do the same, but in reverse so that he will do the things that McD expects him to do, only they will be the unexpected things because they are expected.

lex
10-07-2009, 08:22 PM
I expect McD will tell our guys to prepare for the things that Patriots aren't going to do, because thats exactly what they will do to confuse McD. Belicheat will do the same, but in reverse so that he will do the things that McD expects him to do, only they will be the unexpected things because they are expected.


Exactly. Thats why I really thing we're going to see the wishbone on Sunday.

Irish Stout
10-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Exactly. Thats why I really thing we're going to see the wishbone on Sunday.

Maybe the straight T formation.

HILife
10-07-2009, 08:30 PM
They basically have: Wes Welker, Moss, Galloway, and a couple of dudes you've never really heard of before (Aiken and Edleman)

We have: Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, and Stokely (then McKinley and Lloyd) we
have more depth at WR on our depth chart and I believe in actuallity.

for TEs, they have Ben Watson, Chris Baker and Mike Matthews
We have Scheffler, Graham, and Quinn

Although both Baker and Watson are formidable if left unchecked, I would take Scheff and Graham over those two.

Where NE has an advantage is in receiving backs with: Morris, Faulk, Taylor, and Maroney (is he playing?).

Without Correll, we have Hillis and Moreno as our potential receiving backs.

I think we are decidedly better in receiving positions than the Pats. Moss is more proven than Marshall, but Champ should be on Moss.

Jordan is good a catching passes too.

tsiguy96
10-07-2009, 08:32 PM
we have better WR depth for SURE. welker might not play i thought, but moss is clearly the best WR on the field. other than that, they have no one. galloway is a healthy inactive now.

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2009, 08:35 PM
Our advantage in this game is McDaniel's knowledge of personnel not offensive or defensive systems.

HILife
10-07-2009, 08:36 PM
I expect McD will tell our guys to prepare for the things that Patriots aren't going to do, because thats exactly what they will do to confuse McD. Belicheat will do the same, but in reverse so that he will do the things that McD expects him to do, only they will be the unexpected things because they are expected.

Diabolical!

HILife
10-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Maybe the straight T formation.

I'll be keeping a look out for the cheerleaders to run a few plays. Keep the other team on their toes.

Irish Stout
10-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I'll be keeping a look out for the cheerleaders to run a few plays. Keep the other team on their toes.

Maybe we'll make some room on our roster for some of the chicks from the Lengerie league!




Although I'm not sure how they'd look in their brown and yellow lengerie with those striped socks.

HILife
10-07-2009, 08:51 PM
Maybe we'll make some room on our roster for some of the chicks from the Lengerie league!




Although I'm not sure how they'd look in their brown and yellow lengerie with those striped socks.

Right now I really don't care. Why is the TE playing C?

http://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/lingerie-football-league-try-outs.jpg

Br0nc0Buster
10-07-2009, 08:51 PM
our DL is given the advantage?

lol wow a long way we have come from last year

Greatspirits
10-07-2009, 08:52 PM
They didn't mention the advantage we'll have because the Pats will be laughing too hard at our throwback uni's that they will be distracted!

Caveat Lector
10-07-2009, 08:54 PM
Maybe we try some Wildcat? We practised some in TC, maybe its a look they're not expecting. Remember what the Dolphins did to them last year...

Rock Chalk
10-07-2009, 10:05 PM
QB: NE - Right
RB: DEN - Right
WR: NE - Right
OL: DEN - Right
DL: DEN - Wow
LB: NE (?) - Umm, Im not sure, maybe.
DB: NE - Wrong
ST: NE - Wrong
Coach: DEN - Wrong

I love the new staff we got but until McD and company win 3 SBs with the Broncos the coaching edge goes to NE period.

Irish Stout
10-07-2009, 10:11 PM
QB: NE - Right
RB: DEN - Right
WR: NE - Right
OL: DEN - Right
DL: DEN - Wow
LB: NE (?) - Umm, Im not sure, maybe.
DB: NE - Wrong
ST: NE - Wrong
Coach: DEN - Wrong

I love the new staff we got but until McD and company win 3 SBs with the Broncos the coaching edge goes to NE period.

Man I really disagree with WR. Maybe its cause there is more faith in their QB to get the ball to Moss or Welker than there is in Ort to get it to Royal, Marshall, Stokely, or Gaffney. I get that Moss and Welker are scary, but we've seen what Royal, Marshall and Stokely are capable of.

I also think we've got better pass catching TEs.

tsiguy96
10-07-2009, 10:12 PM
serious question: does scout.com watch any games?

they are wrong probably in the 60% range as far as position advantage, the average fan can do better than them, and their final scores are always within 3 points of each other. apparently every NFL game is decided by a FG

Archer81
10-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Inside the NFL had sapp and colinsworth picking NE...simply because denver cannot stop the awesomeness of the patriots, led by the most beautiful man in the history of men...


:Broncos:

cutthemdown
10-07-2009, 10:48 PM
The good news is Dawkins will have stuff to be pissed about every week. This week it will be the still dont respect us!!!! While he's spitting on everyone!!!!

Next week it will be. Last yr they took it from us!!!!! That was last yr!!!! Rivers disrespect taunting our crowd must be answered for!!!! TAKE IT!!!! TAKE IT!!!!!

That dude just knows how to get men fired up and his routine never gets old. It's full off so much venom and passion players cant help but get infected.

These guys are flying around to the ball playing like crazed dogs. Thats what it takes in the NFL, you have to want it really really bad.

ZONA
10-07-2009, 11:30 PM
I think we win or lose this game on offensive penalties by us. We shot ourselves in the foot way too many times last game, which resulted in a turnover and a ton of penalties. If we can drastically reduce our offensive penalties, I think we win this game. If we don't, we won't keep drives alive which keeps Brady off the field.


This is a game where our defense is going to need our offense to be much better then it has. I'm not saying we need to score 30 points, but we need to score 20 and AT LEAST split the TOP.

Paladin
10-07-2009, 11:41 PM
It is enough that an outstanding publication/blog such as this outfit recognizes that the final outcome is correctly identfied and enshrined in electronic print. I do believe that the squad is deserving of the showing of confidence and faith. In short,



I don't care what they think.....

Hogan11
10-07-2009, 11:42 PM
We win this game and the rest of the league, the networks, the talking heads, are going to freak out.

Flags will fly at half mast in Bristol and at 30 Rock if Denver wins.

hambone13
10-07-2009, 11:44 PM
I think we win or lose this game on offensive penalties by us. We shot ourselves in the foot way too many times last game, which resulted in a turnover and a ton of penalties. If we can drastically reduce our offensive penalties, I think we win this game. If we don't, we won't keep drives alive which keeps Brady off the field.


This is a game where our defense is going to need our offense to be much better then it has. I'm not saying we need to score 30 points, but we need to score 20 and AT LEAST split the TOP.

I don't know that I concur directly w/ "based on penalties" but I like all the other things you said about the offense showing up....I'm sold on Nolan, I'm still teetering on McD's offense....although I loved what he said to Ortan in the Mic'd Up video about, "just get it done...I don't wanna hear, 'My Bad", "Just Get it Done.....make a play." HA! Well, that's the gist of it...

Old Dude
10-08-2009, 08:47 AM
If the Pats have a weakness on defense, it's been against the run so far. They're giving up about 4.5 ypc. I'm sure that part of that is due to the teams they've played all having good riunning games. But they haven't been dominant.

They are also averaging less than 4 ypc when they run the ball. And Denver's D is giving up about 3.7 or something like that. Again, it's probably skewed by the competition.

But it looks obvious, at least from here, that Denver will try to control the game on the ground.

tsiguy96
10-08-2009, 08:47 AM
If the Pats have a weakness on defense, it's been against the run so far. They're giving up about 4.5 ypc. I'm sure that part of that is due to the teams they've played all having good riunning games. But they haven't been dominant.

They are also averaging less than 4 ypc when they run the ball. And Denver's D is giving up about 3.7 or something like that. Again, it's probably skewed by the competition.

But it looks obvious, at least from here, that Denver will try to control the game on the ground.

regardless of stats, the raiders, bengals and cowboys are some of the best running teams in the game.

outdoor_miner
10-08-2009, 09:15 AM
Coach: DEN (I had to quadruple check I saw this correctly)

What a difference a week makes... Last week, McDaniels is at a disadvantage to Wade friggin Phillips, and this week, he's got the advantage over Belichick? Scouts Inc must have really been impressed with that Dallas win! LOL

Doggcow
10-08-2009, 09:38 AM
How the **** did they get LB's? Doom is on the list for just about every defensive LB award out there..

BroncoInSkinland
10-08-2009, 09:39 AM
What a difference a week makes... Last week, McDaniels is at a disadvantage to Wade friggin Phillips, and this week, he's got the advantage over Belichick? Scouts Inc must have really been impressed with that Dallas win! LOL

It's the 4-0 seeming more realistic, I let it hype me up too, then again I am not a supposedly impartial journalist filled with "integrity". Good to see McDaniels getting media props though, after the hammering they did to him off-season and the result, he deserves it. I kinda wish they kept ragging on him though, if the little guy gets a big head he might be top heavy. Hope he remembers that he is one loss away from being the poster child for mentaly handicapped HC's. It makes him mean. ;D