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BroncoBuff
09-28-2009, 03:28 PM
Just sayin' ... I don't know the stats, but it's gotta be 90%-plus of teams starting 4-0 finish 9-7 or better.

Dallas has given up 54 points in two games ... and travel here on a short week.

Mr. Elway
09-28-2009, 03:31 PM
Hell yeah. We will be ready to go and half the Cowboy's team will be expecting what ESPN is telling them.

Clockwork Orange
09-28-2009, 03:33 PM
Did they get a new stadium? I could have swore I heard somewhere that they got a new stadium.

listopencil
09-28-2009, 03:33 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

Ambiguous
09-28-2009, 03:35 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

good point.

Mr. Elway
09-28-2009, 03:35 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

To be in the running for coach of the year.

Smiling Assassin27
09-28-2009, 03:39 PM
Let's show Tony Romo how we do things at altitude. And if anyone knows anyone, it sure would be groovy if Barber had to sit it out...

ZONA
09-28-2009, 03:40 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg

I can't wait for this game. Not only are we going 4-0 after this game but the media will HAVE to give us respect after spanking their beloved Cowboys. This is when everybody in the media (ESPN, SI, NFLN) gets it that this team is for real and that we are not gonna play the doormat role they so lovingly gave us for no reason at all. Now I am not going to go all Fantasy Land here predict a winning season and playoffs and all that but I will go on to say this is the game when some frickin respect is earned, as Dawkins talks about.

listopencil
09-28-2009, 03:42 PM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg

:rofl:

Mr.Meanie
09-28-2009, 03:54 PM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg

I can't wait for this game. Not only are we going 4-0 after this game but the media will HAVE to give us respect after spanking their beloved Cowboys. This is when everybody in the media (ESPN, SI, NFLN) gets it that this team is for real and that we are not gonna play the doormat role they so lovingly gave us for no reason at all. Now I am not going to go all Fantasy Land here predict a winning season and playoffs and all that but I will go on to say this is the game when some frickin respect is earned, as Dawkins talks about.

Bah... I prefer being the underdog. No respect, not even from some of the die hard fans. I love it!

OBF1
09-28-2009, 03:55 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

That there are still 3 games to be played :???:

listopencil
09-28-2009, 04:04 PM
Now I am not going to go all Fantasy Land here predict a winning season and playoffs...

As of right now my prediction is 10-6. There is a decent chance that we can win the division at 10-6.

BroncoBuff
09-28-2009, 04:33 PM
As of right now my prediction is 10-6.
10-6 is just .500 the rest of the way ... you rat bastard.

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 04:40 PM
http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg


I think that infinity sign is suppose to be a variable.

Rock Chalk
09-28-2009, 04:46 PM
That there are still 3 games to be played :???:

8-5 is the remaining record? 3 games played + 13 games = 16 games.

8-5 the rest of the way gets you 11-5 on the season and a guaranteed playoff spot IMO.

Chargers will finish no better than 8-8. Bank on it.

Killericon
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
If we lose, the entire national media is gonna be down the Broncos' throats like nobody's business.

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%

.

I believe that's the formula(Integral) to calculate the area under the function, but it's been a long, long time.

v2micca
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
I know a 4-0 start doesn't guarantee you anything. I also know that almost every time the Broncos started 4-0 they went to the Superbowl that year.

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 04:50 PM
Cowboys are going to own us up and down the field. :)

Archer81
09-28-2009, 04:51 PM
The memo states the team hasnt played any real team yet, and the prognosticators will pick big ole Cowboys to whip up on the JV Broncos...


:Broncos:

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 04:52 PM
I believe that's the formula(Integral) to calculate the area under the function, but it's been a long, long time.
It's fundamental theorem of calculus.

colonelbeef
09-28-2009, 05:07 PM
Something like 80% of 3-0 teams make the playoffs? Thought I heard that somewhere on the radio today.

Dagmar
09-28-2009, 05:14 PM
Couldn't find the info, but I do know that only 3 teams have made the playoffs since '90 starting 0 & 3.

ScottXray
09-28-2009, 05:20 PM
Something like 80% of 3-0 teams make the playoffs? Thought I heard that somewhere on the radio today.

We were 3-0 last year. Guess that was a 20% team..


However I don't think this team is going to fade ...that was a shanahan trademark for the last 10 years, and if one thing is different it is that this is not a Shanahan team..

It is a TEAM....all parts pulling in the same direction at the same time. something we haven't seen for a while in Denver.

I know... I know....Captain Obvious makes another brilliant analysis!

Well, at least for now, no one is saying we stink.

d bronx42
09-28-2009, 05:21 PM
I am really rooting for Dallas to win big tonight. It seems almost every time the Cowboys win a game they come out the following week very rusty and sloppy...

Wade Phillips just doesn't know the definition of the word discipline.

Los Broncos
09-28-2009, 05:22 PM
Whats our biggest concern with the Cowboys? Romo, Barber?

rubaiyat
09-28-2009, 05:23 PM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg

I can't wait for this game. Not only are we going 4-0 after this game but the media will HAVE to give us respect after spanking their beloved Cowboys. This is when everybody in the media (ESPN, SI, NFLN) gets it that this team is for real and that we are not gonna play the doormat role they so lovingly gave us for no reason at all. Now I am not going to go all Fantasy Land here predict a winning season and playoffs and all that but I will go on to say this is the game when some frickin respect is earned, as Dawkins talks about.

Some respect, but I think 8-5 gets thrown out there. 3-0 is being marginalized as the same as last year.

Rabb
09-28-2009, 05:23 PM
Whats our biggest concern with the Cowboys? Romo, Barber?

IMO, their defense

IHaveALight
09-28-2009, 06:36 PM
What does 8-5 almost guarantee you?

I do believe you all missed the sarcasm here. Listo was referring to last year, sitting real pretty at 8-5 and 1 win or loss by Chargers to get into the playoffs. I think we all probably thought we were guaranteed to make the playoffs then, and as we found out there is no guarantee until you clinch.

tsiguy96
09-28-2009, 06:39 PM
romo looks awful, get him the least bit flustered and he chokes. their oline sucks too and make up for it by doing wahtever possible, legal or not, to stop the other team.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-28-2009, 06:43 PM
IMO, their defense

Really? What about it?

Los Broncos
09-28-2009, 06:46 PM
I'm looking forward to Clady v Ware.

Meck77
09-28-2009, 06:49 PM
IMO, their defense

I don't know. They can't seem to tackle worth a ****. I think Moreno is going to pop a run for 50+.

BroncoBuff
09-28-2009, 06:50 PM
I'm looking forward to Clady v Ware.

I tell you, that Richard Seymour was a little girl after the game yesterday ... what a poor sport, what a sore loser. Regarding his childish pulling on Clkady's hair:

"It was no mistake," Seymour told Cohn.

Pressed about the incident, Seymour said, "It wasn't no mistake, brother. Next question."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/09/richard-seymour-pulling-ryan-cladys-hair-was-no-mistake/1

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 06:52 PM
It's fundamental theorem of calculus.

Well there you go. I used to be the text book problem solving master.

tonngo0
09-28-2009, 06:57 PM
I think that infinity sign is suppose to be a variable.

That is not an infinity sign

Rock Chalk
09-28-2009, 06:58 PM
IMO, their defense

Whats to be concerned about with the worst defense in the NFL?

Los Broncos
09-28-2009, 07:00 PM
I tell you, that Richard Seymour was a little girl after the game yesterday ... what a poor sport, what a sore loser. Regarding his childish pulling on Clkady's hair:


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/09/richard-seymour-pulling-ryan-cladys-hair-was-no-mistake/1

That's awesome.

BroncoBuff
09-28-2009, 07:03 PM
That's awesome.

More:

"Seymour and the reporter then got into an argument that ended with the Raiders demanding the reporter vacate Seymour's locker and the player refusing to answer questions."

Better get used to losing, little girl ... it's gonna happen more often than not :~ohyah!:

broncofan2438
09-28-2009, 07:08 PM
Yea, Cowgirls have been sucking it up and they'll probably blow us up in the run game

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 07:11 PM
I think that infinity sign is suppose to be a variable.

It's the dervative or velocity right? Or is it the integral and area?

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 07:12 PM
That is not an infinity sign
Yep, I don't know what I was thinking. It's an alpha sign which is a variable. So the pic is correct, Iím retarded.

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 07:21 PM
It's the dervative or velocity right? Or is it the integral and area?
That particular theorem just shows that the derivative of the integral of a function is equal to the original function.

And yes, first derivative = velocity, integral = area under curve.

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 07:32 PM
That particular theorem just shows that the derivative of the integral of a function is equal to the original function.

And yes, first derivative = velocity, integral = area under curve.

Right....got it. And the coverse is true as well, right?

HILife
09-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Did they get a new stadium? I could have swore I heard somewhere that they got a new stadium.

Check your source, you heard wrong.

broncogary
09-28-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm interested in how they'll rate the coaching match-up before the game, Wade vs. McD.

I know they'll give it to Wade, but I want to see their reasoning.

Paladin
09-28-2009, 07:54 PM
I think the misdirection toss to Buck would gain big yardage. Marshall should do okay underneath, and Stokes and Royal should get a couple of catches. The screens to the RBs could be big.....

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 07:55 PM
Right....got it. And the coverse is true as well, right?

yes.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-28-2009, 07:56 PM
Don't forget Gaffney.

Man, they run a ****load of draws.

HILife
09-28-2009, 07:57 PM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg


Dang, and I use to be good a math. Everything I learned in high school and college are defiantly gone. Math and Science were always my favorite subject, next to lunch and snow-days.

ward63
09-28-2009, 07:58 PM
Their line is huge, so our d-line will have a huge test this coming week!

baja
09-28-2009, 08:01 PM
Dang, and I use to be good a math. Everything I learned in high school and college are defiantly gone. Math and Science were always my favorite subject, next to lunch and snow-days.

Well clearly English was not your strong suit.

baja
09-28-2009, 08:01 PM
We are going to so out coach them....

Broncos dude
09-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Just sayin' ... I don't know the stats, but it's gotta be 90%-plus of teams starting 4-0 finish 9-7 or better.

Dallas has given up 54 points in two games ... and travel here on a short week.

One game at a time .... Jesus , If we lose to cowboys all the hating will start again...

Doggcow
09-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Dallas ****ing blows. Seriously, I just watched that game and **** are they bad.

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 09:01 PM
the are big and physical. I think they are the Raiders with a much better QB.

Cito Pelon
09-28-2009, 11:49 PM
Dallas is gonna be a test.

Denver so far has run 34 times per game, 30 passes per game. That's a good balance.

Obviously, Dallas will try to limit the rushing game since it's been kicking ass. That's Dallas' modus operandi also, so they know.

Dallas Monday stacked 8 guys not only in the box, but on the LOS. They'll try that again Sunday as their best strategy.

Orton, Marshall, Gaffney, Stokley, Royal, Scheffler will have to gash them and make them pay for stacking the box.

PRBronco
09-29-2009, 12:07 AM
I think that infinity sign is suppose to be a variable.

It's not an infinity sign, it's a constant (greek letter alpha). If I remember my calculus right, it's super simple: if you integrate a function f from alpha to x, you get (f(x)^2)/2 - (f(alpha)^2)/2, and then take the derivative (d/dx) of that just returns it to f(x). Then everybody wins! ^5

Oh also, I think the key to beating the Cowboys is gluing 2 players on Witten, and exploiting Slowzell Adams' terribleness.

Gort
09-29-2009, 01:05 AM
the derivative with respect to x of the integral of a function from alpha to x is simply that function... f(x).

alpha is a constant.

cutthemdown
09-29-2009, 02:10 AM
Dallas is our first real test. Don't go thinking we are favorites in this game. Dallas is big and runs the ball well. They have weapons in passing game, a TE like our team has yet to see. Witten will test out linebackers and safety's big time.

This won't be an easy game. Broncos get this one and people will really start to talk.

_Oro_
09-29-2009, 07:43 AM
And to think I actually felt bad for Seymour going to the Raiduhs. Then he goes and pulls Clady's hair like a little pos.

Eldorado
09-29-2009, 07:56 AM
Yep, I don't know what I was thinking. It's an alpha sign which is a variable. So the pic is correct, Iím retarded.

I was going to say something, but didn't want to be rude.

Mr. Elway
09-29-2009, 08:58 AM
I tell you, that Richard Seymour was a little girl after the game yesterday ... what a poor sport, what a sore loser. Regarding his childish pulling on Clkady's hair:


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/09/richard-seymour-pulling-ryan-cladys-hair-was-no-mistake/1

Wow, that is incredible. Did you click the link inside the article? It was interesting to see what the reporter said:

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/cohn/2009/09/richard-seymour-gets-angry-at-yours-truly.html

_Oro_
09-29-2009, 09:38 AM
Wow, that is incredible. Did you click the link inside the article? It was interesting to see what the reporter said:

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/cohn/2009/09/richard-seymour-gets-angry-at-yours-truly.html

"That is not good. They (Raiders) could not beat the Broncos at home, and the Broncos are no big deal."

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090927/NEWS/909279969/1057/SPORTS0908?Title=Is-it-JaMarcus-or-the-team-at-fault-

Xenos
09-29-2009, 10:50 AM
That's the 10% dude, not the 90%


http://images.cafepress.com/product/226737919_400x400_Front.jpg

I can't wait for this game. Not only are we going 4-0 after this game but the media will HAVE to give us respect after spanking their beloved Cowboys. This is when everybody in the media (ESPN, SI, NFLN) gets it that this team is for real and that we are not gonna play the doormat role they so lovingly gave us for no reason at all. Now I am not going to go all Fantasy Land here predict a winning season and playoffs and all that but I will go on to say this is the game when some frickin respect is earned, as Dawkins talks about.
The slope of a derivative is equal to f(x). In other words, the slope and the derivative cancels out leaving the original equation the same.

broncocalijohn
09-29-2009, 11:07 AM
Yea, Cowgirls have been sucking it up and they'll probably blow us up in the run game

how do you come to this conclusion?

Lev Vyvanse
09-29-2009, 12:34 PM
The slope of a derivative is equal to f(x). In other words, the slope and the derivative cancels out leaving the original equation the same.

derivative = to the slope of the function. So yea, thats not right.

gyldenlove
09-29-2009, 12:56 PM
It's not an infinity sign, it's a constant (greek letter alpha). If I remember my calculus right, it's super simple: if you integrate a function f from alpha to x, you get (f(x)^2)/2 - (f(alpha)^2)/2, and then take the derivative (d/dx) of that just returns it to f(x). Then everybody wins! ^5

Oh also, I think the key to beating the Cowboys is gluing 2 players on Witten, and exploiting Slowzell Adams' terribleness.

That depends if it is an integratable function, but the f(x)^2 is incorrect either way, but your idea is okay.

In most functions taking derivative of the indeterminate integral just returns you to your original function.

Beej
09-29-2009, 01:05 PM
Wow, that is incredible. Did you click the link inside the article? It was interesting to see what the reporter said:

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/cohn/2009/09/richard-seymour-gets-angry-at-yours-truly.html

Cohn's lucky Cable didn't come out and kick his ass!

BroncoBuff
09-29-2009, 01:21 PM
"That is not good. They (Raiders) could not beat the Broncos at home, and the Broncos are no big deal."

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090927/NEWS/909279969/1057/SPORTS0908?Title=Is-it-JaMarcus-or-the-team-at-fault-

Hahaha .. what a CHILD!

I'm glad now he was banished from the mountaintop to the gutter :spit:

baja
09-29-2009, 03:00 PM
Cohn's lucky Cable didn't come out and kick his ass!

I liked this;

Cohn, " never condone violence of any kind, but I must admit the fights in the stands were more interesting than the Raidersí effort. At least the fights didnít suck."

bombquixote
09-29-2009, 04:33 PM
Orton, Marshall, Gaffney, Stokley, Royal, Scheffler will have to gash them and make them pay for stacking the box.

This will happen.

iDENVER
09-29-2009, 04:51 PM
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=686048

lol wat a punk

rubaiyat
09-29-2009, 05:52 PM
The slope of a derivative is equal to f(x). In other words, the slope and the derivative cancels out leaving the original equation the same.

The slope of a function is the derivative. The integral is the area under the curve.

RhymesayersDU
09-29-2009, 06:01 PM
Not sure if anybody mentioned, but Felix is out for this game.

Who knows what Barber's health will be, it could be Barber/Choice or just Choice.

mr007
09-29-2009, 06:05 PM
The slope of a function is the derivative. The integral is the area under the curve.

Chlorophyll?? more like boraphyll...

Xenos
09-29-2009, 11:25 PM
The slope of a function is the derivative. The integral is the area under the curve.
Ah the joys of not taking Calculus in five years. I meant to say integral of a derivative, but I suppose that's not correct either according to glydenlove. I love derivatives though. It made geometry easier. Though the process of learning how to do slopes in order to get derivatives was annoying.

baja
09-29-2009, 11:29 PM
Ah the joys of not taking Calculus in five years. I meant to say integral of a derivative, but I suppose that's not correct either according to glydenlove. I love derivatives though. It made geometry easier. Though the process of learning how to do slopes in order to get derivatives was annoying.

Hum.... Get this one will ya Spider. ;D

cutthemdown
09-30-2009, 12:19 AM
Doom, Haggan, Ayers, or whoever is going again flozell better watch out for tripping and leg whipping. He's really playing dirty right now.

maher_tyler
09-30-2009, 01:37 AM
Should be a fun game to watch...i can't wait. This is a huge game for us!! You could almost say this is a must win!!

Old Dude
09-30-2009, 07:19 AM
Realistiically, I think Denver has to win at least one of its next three to have a shot at the playoffs. If they drop all three and go to 3-3 at the break, they'd have to win 7 of the final 10 against a lineup that includes the Giants, San Diego, and Pittsburgh here and road games against Baltimore, Indianapolis and Philadelphia.

Dallas is on a short week, has some banged-up RBs, hasn't hit full stride on defense, and we have them at home. The Broncos are about as healthy and confident right now as they are going to get. This is also one of those "make-a-statement" games so the effort should be close to 100%.

I think it will be a definitive game for the season.

Tom H.
09-30-2009, 08:17 AM
I see I-N-T in Romo's eyes and a pissed off Jerry Jones. Someone should flash pictures of Jessica Simpson to throw off Tony even more.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/stylewatch/gallery/celeb_fragrance/jessica_simpson.jpg

Steve Sewell
09-30-2009, 10:03 AM
We were 3-0 last year. Guess that was a 20% team..


However I don't think this team is going to fade ...that was a shanahan trademark for the last 10 years, and if one thing is different it is that this is not a Shanahan team..

It is a TEAM....all parts pulling in the same direction at the same time. something we haven't seen for a while in Denver.

I know... I know....Captain Obvious makes another brilliant analysis!

Well, at least for now, no one is saying we stink.

The reason Shanahan teams faded in the past was because he was such a good coach with bad personnel. He'd out-scheme teams in the beginning and then once opponents got a gist for what he was doing, we were toast later on in the season because of a lack of talent.

I should say that right now I have no idea what this teams talent level is in comparison, but it seems like our game plans, offensively, have been pretty straightforward and bland to this point. I think the talent and coaching level on defense is vastly improved though.

ScottXray
09-30-2009, 11:29 AM
The reason Shanahan teams faded in the past was because he was such a good coach with bad personnel. He'd out-scheme teams in the beginning and then once opponents got a gist for what he was doing, we were toast later on in the season because of a lack of talent.

I should say that right now I have no idea what this teams talent level is in comparison, but it seems like our game plans, offensively, have been pretty straightforward and bland to this point. I think the talent and coaching level on defense is vastly improved though.

I agree. Shanny did it with smoke and mirrors a lot the start of every year....then when the teams had enough film to figure his schemes out they stopped us pretty cold the second half of the year. The lack of talent was his downfall, and when he did have some and an adequate D we would make the playoffs. The better teams then usually trounced us. Having a Crap defense was the final nail, since they couldn't pull it through and save his bacon over the last three years.

Our offense is not impressive...yet. Seems they are still getting it together. Maybe when Orton removes the glove the pass game will step up more. If that happens we could be a real problem for a lot of teams, considering the D we have been fielding. Just hope the injury bug stays away until both sides are firing on all cylinders.

BroncoBuff
09-30-2009, 01:52 PM
Keep the glove. Don't change anything.

He's a different player since the regular season began, maybe the glove is the reason ???

ScottXray
09-30-2009, 02:01 PM
Keep the glove. Don't change anything.

He's a different player since the regular season began, maybe the glove is the reason ???

There's a poll in there somewhere! I'm not gonna start it since it will just devolve into another flame fest.

Baja?

cutthemdown
09-30-2009, 02:09 PM
Realistiically, I think Denver has to win at least one of its next three to have a shot at the playoffs. If they drop all three and go to 3-3 at the break, they'd have to win 7 of the final 10 against a lineup that includes the Giants, San Diego, and Pittsburgh here and road games against Baltimore, Indianapolis and Philadelphia.

Dallas is on a short week, has some banged-up RBs, hasn't hit full stride on defense, and we have them at home. The Broncos are about as healthy and confident right now as they are going to get. This is also one of those "make-a-statement" games so the effort should be close to 100%.

I think it will be a definitive game for the season.

When you look at the schedule you almost think a team would need to be ready to go to Superbowl to go any better then 10-6 vs that schedule. It's a whose who of the best teams in the NFL.

Dallas IMO is a winnable game. Short week for them, we are at home and really confident. Still IMO this would be a huge win for Denver and a lot of media types will start to wonder. Especially if the defense clamps down the cowboys.

JJJ
09-30-2009, 02:32 PM
I finally had a chance to see the Bronco-Raider game and coming in was expecting to be impressed. I really wasn't impressed I must say. I didn't see a defense forcing turnovers, I saw JaMarcus giving the game away and the Bronco offense very reluctant to take it. That thing should have been 21-0 by the end of the 1st quarter with as bad as Raiders played.

I expect Cowboys to put up at least 175 yards rushing, 3 to 4 sacks by the D, and win this one handily.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-30-2009, 02:34 PM
I finally had a chance to see the Bronco-Raider game and coming in was expecting to be impressed. I really wasn't impressed I must say. I didn't see a defense forcing turnovers, I saw JaMarcus giving the game away and the Bronco offense very reluctant to take it. That thing should have been 21-0 by the end of the 1st quarter with as bad as Raiders played.

I expect Cowboys to put up at least 175 yards rushing to 4 sacks, and win this one handily.

You're not impressed by giving up 120-something total yards of offense, 3 turnovers and only 3 points? Really.

JJJ
09-30-2009, 02:34 PM
You're not impressed by giving up 120-something total yards of offense, 3 turnovers and only 3 points? Really.

Really.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-30-2009, 02:46 PM
Really.

Maybe you'd be interested in another sport, then? How about figure skating? There are fewer numbers and far less strategy. Easier to follow AND your acute eye for detail should take you far.

BroncoBuff
09-30-2009, 02:52 PM
I don't mind skepticism at this point ... although the Bengals have proven they can score a lot against the Packers and Steelers, the Browns are horrid and Jamarcus might be the worst starting quarterback in the league.

I'm with JJJ to a point ... I wanna wait 'til Sunday to hop all the way up on the bandwagon ... :bandwagon

JJJ
09-30-2009, 03:22 PM
Maybe you'd be interested in another sport, then? How about figure skating? There are fewer numbers and far less strategy. Easier to follow AND your acute eye for detail should take you far.

Tanya Harding had a clever strategy.