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Doggcow
09-27-2009, 05:55 PM
I just heard that on NBC, is that right?!?!?!?

Baba Booey
09-27-2009, 05:55 PM
Good lord.

Archer81
09-27-2009, 05:56 PM
Keith Olbermann said it...must be true...


:Broncos:

mhgaffney
09-27-2009, 05:56 PM
5.33 points per game.

Wow.

Doggcow
09-27-2009, 05:57 PM
Is it right?

houghtam
09-27-2009, 06:07 PM
No.

The 2000 Ravens had 2 stretches where they only gave up 10 points over 3 games.

dbroncos31
09-27-2009, 06:09 PM
Maybe they meant to start a season?

ZONA
09-27-2009, 06:09 PM
I'll take 16 points over 3 games any time. Give it up.

How many TO's did the Broncos D get today? 3? Woot !!!:wiggle:

Archer81
09-27-2009, 06:11 PM
The stat is to start a season. In 2000, ravens gave up 36 points to Jacksonville in week 2.


:Broncos:

OBF1
09-27-2009, 06:11 PM
I so hate McDaniels for putting this coaching staff and team together. I knew he would destroy the Bronco's.

dbroncos31
09-27-2009, 06:11 PM
We have allowed 16 points and have scored 23 points off of TOs.

Awesome

bronco0608
09-27-2009, 06:12 PM
Paging TheRev and his 20 reasons why the defense would suck this year.

Paging the moron Rev, paging rev.

Your "astute" analysis is needed to explain why this defense still sucks.

Paging the moron Rev.

Br0nc0Buster
09-27-2009, 06:12 PM
yeah I heard that to
Not sure if he was referring to the Bronco franchise, or all the teams

Regardless it is incredibly impressive

Killericon
09-27-2009, 06:12 PM
****ing sweet.

Bronx33
09-27-2009, 06:13 PM
I so hate McDaniels for putting this coaching staff and team together. I knew he would destroy the Bronco's.




HES!!! tearin this team apart!!!! I TELL YA!!!

Archer81
09-27-2009, 06:14 PM
HES!!! tearin this team apart!!!! I TELL YA!!!


THE PLAYERS ARE IN A STATE OF FEAR! BOWLEN IS HIGH! WE WILL NEVER WIN AGAIN...


Funny stuff.


:Broncos:

Garcia Bronco
09-27-2009, 06:18 PM
No.

The 2000 Ravens had 2 stretches where they only gave up 10 points over 3 games.

To "start" a season

OBF1
09-27-2009, 06:19 PM
I wonder what MOCK's dumbass take will be on this topic

Garcia Bronco
09-27-2009, 06:20 PM
Paging TheRev and his 20 reasons why the defense would suck this year.

Paging the moron Rev, paging rev.

Your "astute" analysis is needed to explain why this defense still sucks.

Paging the moron Rev.

It's time to let our friends here off the hook. Unless they persist. Then it's called "giving them enough rope."

Archer81
09-27-2009, 06:20 PM
I wonder what MOCK's dumbass take will be on this topic


Meh.

Germans on the Marne...Lenin in the henhouse.

Book it.

:Broncos:

KS Bronco
09-27-2009, 06:23 PM
3 of those points were after hillis' fumble to start the browns game and cinci has posted 54 the last two games after we only gave up 7 against them!
GO BRONCOS!

oubronco
09-27-2009, 06:28 PM
I wonder what MOCK's dumbass take will be on this topic

you probably don't want to know

TailgateNut
09-27-2009, 06:34 PM
I so hate McDaniels for putting this coaching staff and team together. I knew he would destroy the Bronco's.

No doubt, my brother. WTF were they thinking getting rid of 52% of the OLD TEAM.

broncocalijohn
09-28-2009, 01:23 PM
I wonder what MOCK's dumbass take will be on this topic

He is blaming the last 6 months on beezer the cat taking over his keyboard. Something about Beezer hangin out in Meth alley back in March and coming back with a drugged out look and just took over the computer. On a side note, beezer types much better than Mock. Anyone else think Shanahan losing his job could have been keeping Slowick as the Defensive coordinator? If Mike wants another job in the NFL, he better leave his sidekick at home.

TheDave
09-28-2009, 01:28 PM
"Hater" or "Supporter"... "Superfan" or "Widow"...

Nobody saw this coming... The most optomistic post I saw on this board had our defense improving from #30 to #15ish.

#1?... Really?

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
09-28-2009, 01:31 PM
wow i was wrong about mcdaniels. btw i was also against getting rid of dan reeves wade phillips and shanny

Broncosfreak_56
09-28-2009, 01:45 PM
Hope we can keep it up. this year is the first in a while where I am not holding my breath every time there is a third and long. Feels good. :D

Old Dude
09-28-2009, 01:45 PM
16 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

edited for accuracy.

jhns
09-28-2009, 01:49 PM
13 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

That is some interesting history. It wasn't an offensive game then but that is just rediculous.

baja
09-28-2009, 01:52 PM
"Hater" or "Supporter"... "Superfan" or "Widow"...

Nobody saw this coming... The most optomistic post I saw on this board had our defense improving from #30 to #15ish.

#1?... Really?

Not true I thought all along with Nolan simplifying things and the 3 -4 plus the FA pick ups that we could be a top 10 defense. I thought the nose tackle from Nolan's old team was one key and Dawkins another. Davis was a surprise. I bet we finish the year in the top 10.

baja
09-28-2009, 01:55 PM
It's time to let our friends here off the hook. Unless they persist. Then it's called "giving them enough rope."

No it's not! Not even close, there is crow to be served, it's a tradition.

underrated29
09-28-2009, 01:55 PM
old broncos '05- colts, eagles, ravens and someone else.

We are tied third with other teams for fewest points to start a season.

Tned made a thread over at our site. He twittered schefter and he responded.

Pretty tight of schefty to do that....Anyways, if schefter reports it, i believe it.


So i think NBC might have made an error or something.

RaiderH8r
09-28-2009, 01:56 PM
16 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

edited for accuracy.

Dude....you're old.

Irish Stout
09-28-2009, 01:59 PM
Tned made a thread over at our site. He twittered schefter and he responded.


What do you mean "our" site? Why are you excluding me?

Cool Breeze
09-28-2009, 01:59 PM
This has been really entertaining - I have found myself waiting for the defense to force a stop this year.
Contrast with last year and knowing we couldn't stop opposing offenses.
Just a lot of fun to watch.

Hogan11
09-28-2009, 01:59 PM
It's all smoke and mirrors....they have garbage up front, they beat the worst 2 teams in the AFC this season and got obscenely lucky against freak show Sincy.

It all comes with an * by it, just ask them.

DBroncos4life
09-28-2009, 02:14 PM
It's all smoke and mirrors....they have garbage up front, they beat the worst 2 teams in the AFC this season and got obscenely lucky against freak show Sincy.

It all comes with an * by it, just ask them.

I wouldn't call it smoke and mirrors, but two of the three teams we have played are averaging less then thirteen points per game. Next week we play Dallas who is right now number three in the NFL with just under 33 points scored per game. That could change tonight though. We face seven teams from the top ten in scoring soon. We will see just how good they really are soon enough. I have to say the secondary looks damn impressive and so do the LBs. Doom is everything I thought he would be in the 3-4, I wish could get Ayers or another LB clicking as well as him from the outside in pass rushing. It would be lights out then.

gunns
09-28-2009, 02:17 PM
"Hater" or "Supporter"... "Superfan" or "Widow"...

Nobody saw this coming... The most optomistic post I saw on this board had our defense improving from #30 to #15ish.

#1?... Really?

:thumbsup:

gunns
09-28-2009, 02:27 PM
No.

The 2000 Ravens had 2 stretches where they only gave up 10 points over 3 games.

Yep, they did. They had one game where they scored 9 field goals, no TDs, they had a couple of those, but still won the games. Same thing in the playoffs, a bunch of field goals, I think they scored only 1 or 2 TDs throughout the playoffs. That's what a good defense will do for you.

jacob2125
09-28-2009, 02:58 PM
16 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

edited for accuracy.

I think he said it was a record in the superbowl era.

TheDave
09-28-2009, 03:15 PM
Not true I thought all along with Nolan simplifying things and the 3 -4 plus the FA pick ups that we could be a top 10 defense. I thought the nose tackle from Nolan's old team was one key and Dawkins another. Davis was a surprise. I bet we finish the year in the top 10.

Well then, you missed the boat.

Instead of making "Darius Watts = Randy Moss" and "Broncos will beat SD" bets you should have gotten some action on this one.

You could have made millions with the line "I got $100 that says the Broncos defense will be #1 in the league after 3 games"

Old Dude
09-28-2009, 03:20 PM
I think he said it was a record in the superbowl era.

Hmmn. That could be...

Just looking over some of the most likely suspects:

The 1985 Bears gave up 59 points in their first three games, before putting the clamps on. (The 1984 Bears were actually better early on and gave up only 21 in the same three-game span.)

The 1977 Dolphins gave up 22. The 1972 Dolphins gave up 37.

The 1981 Raiders gave up 29.

The 1985 Steelers gave up 20.

The 1977 and 1978 Steelers each gave up 30.

The 2000 Ravens were a great defensive team, pitching four shutouts and
holding three opponents to a single field goal, but in week two, Jacksonville gouged them for 36 points.

So ... maybe it is a super-bowl era record!


Edit: Best that I could find in the modern era was the 2000 Miami Dolphins who gave up 19 points in the first three weeks. (They shutout Seattle, gave up 13 to the Vikings, then 6 to the Ravens.) They followed that by holding the Pats to a FG. Then they gave up scores in the mid-teens to the Bills and Bengals.

Then they had a bye week and when they came back, the Jets smacked them for 40. They would make it all the way to a divisional playoff game that year, before they were themselves shut out by Oakland.

KevinJames
09-28-2009, 03:35 PM
2nd best start in NFL history is what I heard on Around The Horn

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 03:35 PM
16 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

edited for accuracy.

So is it the first time since 32?

Old Dude
09-28-2009, 04:00 PM
So is it the first time since 32?

I don't know. I'm pretty sure that there were plenty of low-scoring games and seasons after 1932, but before the "super bowl" era started. I haven't double checked, but I know that the lions & giants had some pretty solid defenses back in those days (as did the bears and packers from time to time.)

But even some of those great defenses were sometimes slow getting out of the gate.

Broncos4tw
09-28-2009, 04:09 PM
I'd normally be doing a happy-dance and talking about how bad-ass we are. But... this was against 3 bad teams, and two HORRIBLE offenses. Now, if we by the end of game 5, are still managing this, I am going to be SO stoked.

baja
09-28-2009, 05:12 PM
Well then, you missed the boat.

Instead of making "Darius Watts = Randy Moss" and "Broncos will beat SD" bets you should have gotten some action on this one.

You could have made millions with the line "I got $100 that says the Broncos defense will be #1 in the league after 3 games"

What no smily

In my defense i knew we were likely to lose that SD game I was just trying to rally the troops

i am still dissapointed in Watts - who knew he couldn't catch. Sure could get open though.

Garcia Bronco
09-28-2009, 06:12 PM
So I am watching preseason and seeing these stats on Nolan defenses and turnovers. I laughed by the 3rd preseaon game. I am not laughing anymore.

Los Broncos
09-28-2009, 06:15 PM
Great news just what I wanted to hear about the defense.

Hopefully we hold together down the stretch, I think with Dawkins it will.

Old Dude
09-29-2009, 07:52 AM
The Post ran a story today which answers the question. I can't provide a link yet, but there are at least two teams in the super bowl era who got off to better three game starts (13 points) and two others who also surrendered 16. All 4 went on to make the playoffs.

Rock Chalk
09-29-2009, 07:54 AM
No.

The 2000 Ravens had 2 stretches where they only gave up 10 points over 3 games.

Cant be.

On Around the Horn Woody said the 16 points given up were tied for second fewest to start the season since the AFL/NFL Merger.

Spider
09-29-2009, 07:54 AM
16 points in the first three games is a Broncos record, but not an NFL record.

It would be hard to outdo the 1932 Chicago Bears, who allowed 0 points in their first three games.

Wanna know the punchline, though?

The Bears did not win any of those shutouts.

All three games (vs. Green Bay, Staten Island and the Chicago Cardinals) ended in 0-0 ties.

Want another punchline?

In week 4, the Bears string of defensive shutouts was broken - - by their offense - - which surrendered a safety. And, they lost 0-2, in a rematch with the Packers.

So after four weeks, they'd surrendered only 2 points but they were winless with a 0-1-3 record.

Yet another punchline....

They won the NFL Championship that year with a final record of 7-1-6. In those 14 games, they gave up 44 points. (3.1 per game.)

edited for accuracy.
pre merger ......

Old Dude
09-29-2009, 07:54 AM
Here's the link:

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_13441331

Following up on those teams, the 2004 Seahawks, who gave up only 13 points in their first three games, had a bye, then got torched for 33 and 30 points the next two weeks.

The 2001 Packers, who also gave up only 13 in the first 3, then gave up 14, 23 and 35.

The 1980 Eagles stayed pretty strong. They gave up 16 in their first three ... then 24, 14, 16, 10, 14, 20, 21, 0, 7, 22, 20, and 3, before finally giving up 35 in the final week of the regular season. They went on to win the NFC title, but lost in the super bowl.

The 2005 Colts, after giving u 16 in their first three, stayed strong for two more weeks, giving up 10 and 3, before surrendering 28 in game 6. They finished 14-2, but were upset by the Steelers in the first round of the playoffs.

JJJ
09-29-2009, 09:33 AM
Three words: Bengals, Browns, Raiders.

The last two are 15th and 16th in the AFC in scoring and are really all-decade bad teams.

I predicted you guys go 3-0 and this board goes ballistic. The real season starts now. You go 4-4 or better over the next 8 then much respect.