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Garcia Bronco
09-25-2009, 01:43 PM
Jail Time For Not Paying The Health Insurance "Fee"
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http://www.politico.com/livepulse/09..._.html?showall
This doesn't happen often enough.
Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.
Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."
The note was a follow-up to Ensign's questioning at the markup.
cutthemdown
09-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Wow jail time? That would just cost us more money!!!!
25 grand penalty? if they could afford 25 grand wouldn't they probably buy insurance?
Garcia Bronco
09-25-2009, 02:35 PM
Wow jail time? That would just cost us more money!!!!
25 grand penalty? if they could afford 25 grand wouldn't they probably buy insurance?
Yep...all those things. It's lunacy.
Rohirrim
09-25-2009, 02:44 PM
Well, that just about covers the entire bandwidth of stupid.
Smiling Assassin27
09-25-2009, 02:47 PM
No, it's actually GENIUS. The only place you can send people who refuse to buy their own insurance is prison where they'll be forced into the best health care plan in existence...along with sodomy and using cigs as a medium of exchange.
Crazy? Like a fox...
Rigs11
09-25-2009, 03:39 PM
don't we do this with car insurance?
Rohirrim
09-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Give every American Medicare and you don't have to worry about all this extraneous ****.
kappys
09-25-2009, 03:48 PM
don't we do this with car insurance?
You are only required to buy it if you own a car. There are other options like public transport or bicycle.
Everyone gets sick and needs health care.
Smiling Assassin27
09-25-2009, 03:50 PM
Give every American Medicare and you don't have to worry about all this extraneous ****.
whether you give 'em medicare or something else, if you MANDATE that they take it or some other plan, teh extraneous becomes reality--not to mention the extraneous disadvantages that would result from an American Medicare system run by an incompetent government.
Bronx33
09-25-2009, 04:04 PM
No, it's actually GENIUS. The only place you can send people who refuse to buy their own insurance is prison where they'll be forced into the best health care plan in existence...along with sodomy and using cigs as a medium of exchange.
Crazy? Like a fox...
Well forced sodomy would sure make a person allocate some money real fast for health insurance:spit:
TexanBob
09-25-2009, 04:25 PM
Only Democrats would come up with a plan where we "reduce health care costs" by taxing the hell out of everyone who does and doesn't have a health care plan.
Obama promised during the election that he wouldn't raise taxes except on people who earn more than $250,000. The only people who believe that lie are idiots...or Democrats...which might be redundant.
frerottenextelway
09-25-2009, 06:09 PM
The more Republicans slam the Baucus plan, the better for Liberals - so have it.
They are usually so good process wise, just not policy wise, but the Tards completely missed the boat on this.
This is why things have shifted so far to the Left over the past week, because there are 4 liberal plans that have already passed committee and the one center-right plan is getting blasted by everyone. This moves the focus back to those liberal 4 plans which all include the public option.
So Tards, keep blasting the Baucus plan, just like we are over the Huffington Post and Daily Kos.
El Minion
09-25-2009, 06:27 PM
don't we do this with car insurance?
Read some where that in NY you could be jailed for jaywalking. I think practically every misdemeanor potentially carries a jail stint.
cutthemdown
09-25-2009, 06:31 PM
don't we do this with car insurance?
yeah but you can always walk. You aren't forced to drive a car.
frerottenextelway
09-25-2009, 06:35 PM
yeah but you can always walk. You aren't forced to drive a car.
Which is the biggest reason why it should stay completely in the private sector compared to health where there isn't another option besides dying.
cutthemdown
09-25-2009, 08:01 PM
So they decided to only surtax the people making a million or more. But now they are like 3-4 billion off they need to get by taxing the peoples insurance plans that are really good?
But they won't say how they will determine that yet? Anyone have numbers on that?
My brother racked up tons of insurance charges fighting luekemia and now needs a stent put in a valve.
He's an atty so he makes good money, under a million though.
So would he then get taxed a % of what his policy paid out? He has a good one but still racked up tons of other medical bills he pays on his own. It would suck for him to then get taxed on what he did get.
Hell Obama about to quit fighting in Afghanistan I would think that saves some billions right there.
TexanBob
09-25-2009, 08:06 PM
I can see why the Democrats are so eager to empty the prisons of real criminals so they have a place to put all the "insurance cheats".
As Obamunism continues to crash the economy, jail might not be such a bad place. You'd have a roof over your head rent-free, three square meals a day (likely of tofu and sprouts once the health nazis have their say), free health care (oh, the irony!), a free ACLU lawyer and all the gay sex you could possibly want. The only downside is the three hours of Obama propaganda you'd be forced to watch every night with your eyelids forced open.
Rohirrim
09-26-2009, 05:43 AM
I can see why the Democrats are so eager to empty the prisons of real criminals so they have a place to put all the "insurance cheats".
As Obamunism continues to crash the economy, jail might not be such a bad place. You'd have a roof over your head rent-free, three square meals a day (likely of tofu and sprouts once the health nazis have their say), free health care (oh, the irony!), a free ACLU lawyer and all the gay sex you could possibly want. The only downside is the three hours of Obama propaganda you'd be forced to watch every night with your eyelids forced open.
Your idiocy is monumental. Are you actually this totally clueless? Obama is doing nothing the corporate oligarchy doesn't want him to do. Why the hell do you think there are all these liberals sitting around looking at each other going "WTF?" Do people actually believe that bankrupting the country to bail out banks, insurance companies and investment coporations while pouring bonus money into the pockets of oligarchs is a "liberal" idea? You need to look up the definition of liberal.
Watch this vid. This is Krugman saying, "I was hoping Obama would be another FDR, but..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/26/krugman-the-american-drea_n_300702.html
The Left is starting to wake up from their Obama-dream. Let's put it this way, Bush shoved through tons more of his programs with far less legislative support and no mandate whatsoever. Obama is either the most gutless politician in history, or his path is being dictated to him. People who think Obama is going to launch some "socialist" agenda are raging fools. Do you think the corporate oligarchy that runs American is going to support socialism? Really? Maybe socialism for them.
Meck77
09-26-2009, 06:59 AM
Read some where that in NY you could be jailed for jaywalking. I think practically every misdemeanor potentially carries a jail stint.
That's funny. I'd guess that at any given second in Manhattan there is probably 100,000 people jaywalking. That number could easily be up to 1/2 million. Ha!
Round em up and jail em!
Dukes
09-26-2009, 07:53 AM
That's funny. I'd guess that at any given second in Manhattan there is probably 100,000 people jaywalking. That number could easily be up to 1/2 million. Ha!
Round em up and jail em!
The amount of urination in the subway system is a much bigger problem in NY than jaywalking. ;D
Rohirrim
09-26-2009, 09:03 AM
I feel, once again, like I'm back in Alice in Wonderland.
What is the Wonderland solution for insurance reform? Take the people who can least afford insurance and threaten them with jail. Brilliant! It's not like they're not miserable enough already.
In Wonderland, here's the best advice we can give somebody who finds out they have a disease that could bankrupt them: Rob a bank. Then, you go to a federal prison and receive treatment for your disease, and once you are paroled, you still have your house. Brilliant!
TexanBob
09-26-2009, 06:07 PM
Your idiocy is monumental. Are you actually this totally clueless?
Watch this vid. This is Krugman saying, "I was hoping Obama would be another FDR, but..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/26/krugman-the-american-drea_n_300702.html
Are you actually this totally clueless? Why would I give a **** what that moron Krugman has to say on the Zsa Zsa Post?
So, you're bailing on your Messiah??? :peace:
Spider
09-27-2009, 09:04 AM
Meh ........
rastaman
09-28-2009, 06:19 PM
The amount of urination in the subway system is a much bigger problem in NY than jaywalking. ;D
Heat-high pressurized scolding water hoses can clean up the smell of high grade PISS!:sunshine: