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Drek
09-20-2009, 08:17 PM
How about everyone just stop and think for once before hitting that little "submit post" button?

Why try rubbing someone's face in previous comments when we're 2-0? Its not like we're 12-0. Have some patience, enjoy the season, and those "told you so" internet victories won't seem so important.

And for the opposite side of the spectrum, why try belittling and downplaying a surprisingly solid start from a team we all are supposed to be pulling for? That kind of overt negativity is what drives the previously mentioned spiteful "told you so" posting.

The season is early. There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

There are questions on offense, of course. The defense looks surprisingly good, but just how good is it really? Special teams have been hit (KR/PR coverage) and miss (Prater, twice). There are highs and lows within games, just like there will be highs and lows within the season. We will lose a game at some point, probably ugly.

Enjoy the season, we're 2-0. We've done it against some questionable competition, one of which looks like a potentially solid team (Cincy), the other looks horrible but we routed them (the Cleeve). We got a divisional rivalry next week on the road, it'll be a tough game and another big test for this significantly overhauled team. I'm looking forward to it.

So before the next person wants to play thread Jesus and bring up some months old relic for one or two face rubbing quotes, or starts mocking someone's fandom, football IQ, etc. because they disagreed or still disagree with you ask yourself "do I really want to be that douche?"

There will be plenty of time for all that when the season is in the books, now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.

Popcorn Sutton
09-20-2009, 08:21 PM
Time to bring the good mojo. Thanks for yet another level headed post Drek.

BlaK-Argentina
09-20-2009, 08:24 PM
Wow. You sir, are awesome.

SouthStndJunkie
09-20-2009, 08:24 PM
Solid take....rep worthy.

Clockwork Orange
09-20-2009, 08:29 PM
There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

This is the mane. NOTHING is more important than being right.

Now, cue the first douchecicle to come into this thread and say, "Well I had to listen to (insert name here) disagree with me all offseason and I told him he was wrong and I told him he was a bad fan and I told him I was a better fan than him and the Broncos are 2-0 so I was right and he was wrong and he should go be a Bears fan."

Lev Vyvanse
09-20-2009, 08:34 PM
now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.

Go Broncos!

Meck77
09-20-2009, 08:36 PM
This is the mane. NOTHING is more important than being right.

Now, cue the first douchecicle to come into this thread and say, "Well I had to listen to (insert name here) disagree with me all offseason and I told him he was wrong and I told him he was a bad fan and I told him I was a better fan than him and the Broncos are 2-0 so I was right and he was wrong and he should go be a Bears fan."

:oyvey: Congrats dude. You win. Ha!

Great post Drek.

bpc
09-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Who's belittling Denver? It's been awhile since i've been so excited for a defense. Here's to hoping we can keep this thing going!

Clockwork Orange
09-20-2009, 08:42 PM
:oyvey: Congrats dude. You win. Ha!

Great post Drek.

I'm sorry, Schmuck, did I hit a little too close to home for you and your tailgate groupies with that one? ROFL!

Agreed, though. Good post, Drek.

Meck77
09-20-2009, 08:50 PM
lol .....You hit closer to home then you realized with your first post.

Hercules Rockefeller
09-20-2009, 08:58 PM
Ehhhh I know it's not the point of the post, but both of Prater's kicks are in today but for the swirling wind. The goalposts were moving it was blowing so hard on the field, and the direction the wind was blowing on me in my seat was never the same direction as the streamers on the goalposts.

baja
09-20-2009, 09:02 PM
I'm gonna light some candles.

Florida_Bronco
09-20-2009, 09:04 PM
How about everyone just stop and think for once before hitting that little "submit post" button?

Why try rubbing someone's face in previous comments when we're 2-0? Its not like we're 12-0. Have some patience, enjoy the season, and those "told you so" internet victories won't seem so important.

And for the opposite side of the spectrum, why try belittling and downplaying a surprisingly solid start from a team we all are supposed to be pulling for? That kind of overt negativity is what drives the previously mentioned spiteful "told you so" posting.

The season is early. There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

There are questions on offense, of course. The defense looks surprisingly good, but just how good is it really? Special teams have been hit (KR/PR coverage) and miss (Prater, twice). There are highs and lows within games, just like there will be highs and lows within the season. We will lose a game at some point, probably ugly.

Enjoy the season, we're 2-0. We've done it against some questionable competition, one of which looks like a potentially solid team (Cincy), the other looks horrible but we routed them (the Cleeve). We got a divisional rivalry next week on the road, it'll be a tough game and another big test for this significantly overhauled team. I'm looking forward to it.

So before the next person wants to play thread Jesus and bring up some months old relic for one or two face rubbing quotes, or starts mocking someone's fandom, football IQ, etc. because they disagreed or still disagree with you ask yourself "do I really want to be that douche?"

There will be plenty of time for all that when the season is in the books, now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.

Amen brother.

Amen.

Baba Booey
09-20-2009, 09:07 PM
It's definitely reasonable to be excited about our revamped defense, solid running game, and a QB that isn't going to bury us on the negative side of the turnover spectrum. Obviously Cleveland is no San Diego, Pittsburgh, or New England but Cincinnati did hang 34 on Green Bay today.

However, we can't get ahead of ourselves, especially since Oakland can and has bitten us in the ass when we weren't ready.

Nevertheless, this was a great win on a great day for one of the greatest Broncos ever.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090920/capt.7e194bd2d02f44aeaa7bf5318d4eee72.browns_bronc os_football_coea117.jpg

bpc
09-20-2009, 09:11 PM
If you can't be happy when your team is 2-0, you're just a downright bad fan.

Enjoy it fellas!

BroncoBuff
09-20-2009, 09:17 PM
Nice, Drek ... time for mutual respect to make a comeback around here.

We're all Broncos fans here, no one better than any other. ^5

Broncos4tw
09-20-2009, 10:10 PM
I'm waiting until the end of game 4 before I make too many assumptions. Our D has played a fairly potent offense (that won this week), holding them to 0 points after 3 quarters.. and also held an anemic offense to 6. So... it's hard to tell really how good they are. From near dead-last to the top? That's just.. unlikely in the extreme. But man, I hope we stay there.

Our offense improved, but still looks very weak. We did well against an incredibly bad defense at home.. and did poorly against an average defense away. So, I'm not terribly optimistic yet. Guess we'll see. :)

AboveAverage
09-20-2009, 10:16 PM
Best post I've read here in awhile. You've said it better than I ever could have.

I know this team will have it's limitations, but damnit, I'm going to enjoy the ride.

Feels good man.

Houshyamama
09-20-2009, 10:20 PM
Ehhhh I know it's not the point of the post, but both of Prater's kicks are in today but for the swirling wind. The goalposts were moving it was blowing so hard on the field, and the direction the wind was blowing on me in my seat was never the same direction as the streamers on the goalposts.

When they released the balloons at the beginning you could see the swirling currents in the stadium, the wind blowing pretty stiffly.

epicSocialism4tw
09-20-2009, 10:24 PM
How about everyone just stop and think for once before hitting that little "submit post" button?

Why try rubbing someone's face in previous comments when we're 2-0? Its not like we're 12-0. Have some patience, enjoy the season, and those "told you so" internet victories won't seem so important.

And for the opposite side of the spectrum, why try belittling and downplaying a surprisingly solid start from a team we all are supposed to be pulling for? That kind of overt negativity is what drives the previously mentioned spiteful "told you so" posting.

The season is early. There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

There are questions on offense, of course. The defense looks surprisingly good, but just how good is it really? Special teams have been hit (KR/PR coverage) and miss (Prater, twice). There are highs and lows within games, just like there will be highs and lows within the season. We will lose a game at some point, probably ugly.

Enjoy the season, we're 2-0. We've done it against some questionable competition, one of which looks like a potentially solid team (Cincy), the other looks horrible but we routed them (the Cleeve). We got a divisional rivalry next week on the road, it'll be a tough game and another big test for this significantly overhauled team. I'm looking forward to it.

So before the next person wants to play thread Jesus and bring up some months old relic for one or two face rubbing quotes, or starts mocking someone's fandom, football IQ, etc. because they disagreed or still disagree with you ask yourself "do I really want to be that douche?"

There will be plenty of time for all that when the season is in the books, now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.


Thanks, McDouche.





(just kidding)

2-0! BDawk/Champ/Dumervil ... looking solid!

lazarus4444
09-20-2009, 10:29 PM
This whole peace thing with the thick headed dimwits who didn't want to dig past the surface to see what mcdaniels was doing is going to be hard on those of us who did see the vision of what he is doing. I mean, these guys did everything they could to convince others that mcdaniels was destroying the team and that bowlen was a gutless drunk. I've heard bad things said about all parts of the broncos before they even hit the field.

So, it is going to be hard to forgive these guys. Don't get me wrong, it is their right, but they were being major douche bags in the way they were acting. It is a shame that this off-season split bronco fans so much but winning cures everything! I will not forget or forgive the unbelievers easily though...But hey, as mcdaniels continues winning and the team actually beats teams it should and puts up a fight against better teams i'm sure the unbelievers will come back into the fold and after a few years things will seem normal again as we're winning consistently and not ever giving up. I know this is a stupid internet message board but damn, those of us who are very passionate about the broncos will find it hard to forgive the unbelievers. In time though, in time...

Durango
09-20-2009, 10:39 PM
I'm glad for us fans as well as the players and coaches. These were games the Broncos had to win to have a decent chance at a decent season, and if we do win 6-7-8 wins, I'll consider it a success because of that schedule.

I don't want the Bronco to lose in order to crow 'I told you so'. I always want the Broncos to win, but I still fear the worst in that murderers row middle of the schedule.

I still believe McDaniels is in over his head and isn't half the coach Shanny was, and probably still is. Maybe he will be in time, but then, he was hired to 'win now', and he's 2 & 0 so far. Good for him. Good for us fans. So lets re-visit the McPoppyface thread in about a month.

Spider
09-20-2009, 11:58 PM
this whole peace thing with the thick headed dimwits who didn't want to dig past the surface to see what mcdaniels was doing is going to be hard on those of us who did see the vision of what he is doing. I mean, these guys did everything they could to convince others that mcdaniels was destroying the team and that bowlen was a gutless drunk. I've heard bad things said about all parts of the broncos before they even hit the field.

So, it is going to be hard to forgive these guys. Don't get me wrong, it is their right, but they were being major douche bags in the way they were acting. It is a shame that this off-season split bronco fans so much but winning cures everything! I will not forget or forgive the unbelievers easily though...but hey, as mcdaniels continues winning and the team actually beats teams it should and puts up a fight against better teams i'm sure the unbelievers will come back into the fold and after a few years things will seem normal again as we're winning consistently and not ever giving up. I know this is a stupid internet message board but damn, those of us who are very passionate about the broncos will find it hard to forgive the unbelievers. In time though, in time...

;d .........

BroncoBuff
09-21-2009, 12:06 AM
This whole peace thing with the thick headed dimwits who didn't want to dig past the surface to see what mcdaniels was doing is going to be hard on those of us who did see the vision of what he is doing. I mean, these guys did everything they could to convince others that mcdaniels was destroying the team and that bowlen was a gutless drunk. I've heard bad things said about all parts of the broncos before they even hit the field.

So, it is going to be hard to forgive these guys. Don't get me wrong, it is their right, but they were being major douche bags in the way they were acting. It is a shame that this off-season split bronco fans so much but winning cures everything! I will not forget or forgive the unbelievers easily though...But hey, as mcdaniels continues winning and the team actually beats teams it should and puts up a fight against better teams i'm sure the unbelievers will come back into the fold and after a few years things will seem normal again as we're winning consistently and not ever giving up. I know this is a stupid internet message board but damn, those of us who are very passionate about the broncos will find it hard to forgive the unbelievers. In time though, in time...

Way to miss the point of the thread 150%

BroncoBuff
09-21-2009, 12:12 AM
Go Broncos!

Drek
09-21-2009, 03:42 AM
This whole peace thing with the thick headed dimwits who didn't want to dig past the surface to see what mcdaniels was doing is going to be hard on those of us who did see the vision of what he is doing. I mean, these guys did everything they could to convince others that mcdaniels was destroying the team and that bowlen was a gutless drunk. I've heard bad things said about all parts of the broncos before they even hit the field.

So, it is going to be hard to forgive these guys. Don't get me wrong, it is their right, but they were being major douche bags in the way they were acting. It is a shame that this off-season split bronco fans so much but winning cures everything! I will not forget or forgive the unbelievers easily though...But hey, as mcdaniels continues winning and the team actually beats teams it should and puts up a fight against better teams i'm sure the unbelievers will come back into the fold and after a few years things will seem normal again as we're winning consistently and not ever giving up. I know this is a stupid internet message board but damn, those of us who are very passionate about the broncos will find it hard to forgive the unbelievers. In time though, in time...

What do you have to forgive? They disagreed with you on Broncos football because they love the Broncos too and just didn't think we where going in a good direction. Its not like they where saying uncouth things about your mom or sister.

The only right of forgiveness here will come at the end of the season when (and if) McDaniels surprises the football world. He'll deserve all the apologies and be the one handing out the forgiveness. No one on this board was the direct target of all the vitriol on this board.

Some people (on both sides) acted like huge douche bags to other people on this board. Now is a great time to let winning cure all that. If the Broncos keep putting up W's on Sundays don't you think all the negative mindset posters will know they where wrong? Do you really think we need to remind people of that?

Be magnanimous and humble while being right is a key sign of good character.

Blueflame
09-21-2009, 04:01 AM
How about just.....

Go Broncos!!!!!

cmhargrove
09-21-2009, 05:57 AM
Good post Drek - i'll just keep it to my one "suck it" thread.

However, some posters have been spewing poison about the team since the spring. Those posters deserved some of the backlash. A) because they totally ripped people who were trying to support the team, and B) they were incessant about their "facts" of how the team would possibly be the worst in the league.

We don't see those guys attempting any mea culpa do we?

So, they deserved some of this - now it can end. Hatchet buried (I hope).

TailgateNut
09-21-2009, 06:23 AM
This is the mane. NOTHING is more important than being right.

Now, cue the first douchecicle to come into this thread and say, "Well I had to listen to (insert name here) disagree with me all offseason and I told him he was wrong and I told him he was a bad fan and I told him I was a better fan than him and the Broncos are 2-0 so I was right and he was wrong and he should go be a Bears fan."

Just like "clockwork" comes the first ignorant post.


Drek: Well put. I wont come in with "I told you so smears" because I'm satified knowing that we're not as bad as predicted, and also aware that we're only 1/8 throught the season and have yet to face tougher challenges, starting this coming week and increasing in difficulty as the season progresses.

Broncoman13
09-21-2009, 06:34 AM
Good points Drek... I think you hit the nail on the head on why so many of us have pretty much given up on this place.

The defense looks like it's for real, but it's too early to think we're going to be a top 10 unit. What can we do? Enjoy the ride and watch these guys mature in the system as the season goes forward. We have a great start to the season but we still have a brutal schedule. I still think 8-8 wins the division and I still think we have as good a shot as anyone.

The sad part about the OM. There are a bunch of people out there waiting for this team to lose so they can go off with the "Fire McD" threads. And, there are a bunch of morons out there starting the "We're 2-0 winning the AFC West" threads. Well, maybe not morons... but Idiots for sure.

There is a long season ahead of us. What I've seen this far is very encouraging. A QB that isn't making dumb decisions. A defense that is improving and playing quite well.

I still have some questions on how we're using our personnel but I think (hope) McD will come around. Hillis running on the goal line was a start. Now, we need to get Eddie Royal a bit more involved. The end around to BMarsh was a great play and it showed that McD is willing to go with our strengths. I think BMarsh is just now getting his legs back and I'm betting the 2nd Quarter of this season will be his strongest.

Knowshon is basically doing the same thing all the while learning the speed of the NFL. He was a lot better in game 2 than in the opener. I suspect that will continue.

Here is the bottom line though. We will continue to get better but so will the competition and the competition has more talented players than Cincy and Clev.. We'll see how fast this team can grow but don't expect the same results every week and realize that this is still a growing team. Don't be ignorant and post threads saying that we're winning the division. It's WEEK TWO PEOPLE. Likewise, don't be overly critical of play selection or the play of individuals. Obviously you should feel free to critique your team, but keep in your mind that some perspective is called for and don't get too high or too low on this team.


How about everyone just stop and think for once before hitting that little "submit post" button?

Why try rubbing someone's face in previous comments when we're 2-0? Its not like we're 12-0. Have some patience, enjoy the season, and those "told you so" internet victories won't seem so important.

And for the opposite side of the spectrum, why try belittling and downplaying a surprisingly solid start from a team we all are supposed to be pulling for? That kind of overt negativity is what drives the previously mentioned spiteful "told you so" posting.

The season is early. There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

There are questions on offense, of course. The defense looks surprisingly good, but just how good is it really? Special teams have been hit (KR/PR coverage) and miss (Prater, twice). There are highs and lows within games, just like there will be highs and lows within the season. We will lose a game at some point, probably ugly.

Enjoy the season, we're 2-0. We've done it against some questionable competition, one of which looks like a potentially solid team (Cincy), the other looks horrible but we routed them (the Cleeve). We got a divisional rivalry next week on the road, it'll be a tough game and another big test for this significantly overhauled team. I'm looking forward to it.

So before the next person wants to play thread Jesus and bring up some months old relic for one or two face rubbing quotes, or starts mocking someone's fandom, football IQ, etc. because they disagreed or still disagree with you ask yourself "do I really want to be that douche?"

There will be plenty of time for all that when the season is in the books, now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.

Broncoman13
09-21-2009, 06:36 AM
Just like "clockwork" comes the first ignorant post.


Drek: Well put. I wont come in with "I told you so smears" because I'm satified knowing that we're not as bad as predicted, and also aware that we're only 1/8 throught the season and have yet to face tougher challenges, starting this coming week and increasing in difficulty as the season progresses.

This. Leave it to a vet to have the right perspective. Nice post Leo, sorry I missed being out there yesterday with you guys.

barryr
09-21-2009, 06:39 AM
Unfortunately there are "Bronco fans" out there who have more satisfaction with the Bear win yesterday than the Bronco win.

cmhargrove
09-21-2009, 06:52 AM
Good points Drek... I think you hit the nail on the head on why so many of us have pretty much given up on this place.

The defense looks like it's for real, but it's too early to think we're going to be a top 10 unit. What can we do? Enjoy the ride and watch these guys mature in the system as the season goes forward. We have a great start to the season but we still have a brutal schedule. I still think 8-8 wins the division and I still think we have as good a shot as anyone.

The sad part about the OM. There are a bunch of people out there waiting for this team to lose so they can go off with the "Fire McD" threads. And, there are a bunch of morons out there starting the "We're 2-0 winning the AFC West" threads. Well, maybe not morons... but Idiots for sure.

There is a long season ahead of us. What I've seen this far is very encouraging. A QB that isn't making dumb decisions. A defense that is improving and playing quite well.

I still have some questions on how we're using our personnel but I think (hope) McD will come around. Hillis running on the goal line was a start. Now, we need to get Eddie Royal a bit more involved. The end around to BMarsh was a great play and it showed that McD is willing to go with our strengths. I think BMarsh is just now getting his legs back and I'm betting the 2nd Quarter of this season will be his strongest.

Knowshon is basically doing the same thing all the while learning the speed of the NFL. He was a lot better in game 2 than in the opener. I suspect that will continue.

Here is the bottom line though. We will continue to get better but so will the competition and the competition has more talented players than Cincy and Clev.. We'll see how fast this team can grow but don't expect the same results every week and realize that this is still a growing team. Don't be ignorant and post threads saying that we're winning the division. It's WEEK TWO PEOPLE. Likewise, don't be overly critical of play selection or the play of individuals. Obviously you should feel free to critique your team, but keep in your mind that some perspective is called for and don't get too high or too low on this team.

Great post, and very true.

But, you exercising the right to call other people idiots is the same thing as other people venting their frustrations. It's a great post, very true and balanced. I'm just saying that people being excited about the team and serving some crow to the people who have been bashing the team is completely in order.

I think what we are finally seeing is some of the doubters starting to believe, and that's good for everyone. This place is supposed to be fun, and football is a game, so there's nothing wrong with a little serving of crow when it is warranted -- especially when those serving the crow have stood by this team even through a decently bleak offseason.

The nice thing is the more balanced (yet pessimistic) posters are gladly eating their crow because they love to watch their team win. Welcome back.

Just sayin'

tsiguy96
09-21-2009, 06:57 AM
What do you have to forgive? They disagreed with you on Broncos football because they love the Broncos too and just didn't think we where going in a good direction. Its not like they where saying uncouth things about your mom or sister.
.

maybe they should have given the coach a chance before claiming failure. now they all have to go back on everything they spent the entire summer trying to convince us of because they were wrong: there is hope for this team.

barryr
09-21-2009, 07:06 AM
I do think it is worth remembering that the Broncos played both the Browns and Cincy last year and the defense didn't do well in either game. Whether this defense is truly a top 10 type, time will tell, but there haven't been too many instances the last few seasons where the defense put together 2 really solid, if not great, performances together regardless of who they were playing. So the improvement is there, no doubt.

TailgateNut
09-21-2009, 07:09 AM
maybe they should have given the coach a chance before claiming failure. now they all have to go back on everything they spent the entire summer trying to convince us of because they were wrong: there is hope for this team.


A like to look at the Broncos as a diamond in the carbon stages. It has the potential to be special. Orton isn't and wouldn't be my first choice as team qb, but as long as we hold teams to low scores he has the uses his mgt skills and doesn't make stupid mistakes we have a chance to not be the CELLAR DWELLARS 75-80% of the football "experts" predicted we would be.
That'll make my day.

"I'm an expert" Blah,blah,blah.......until you're proven wrong, then your someone who was FOS.

BroncoBuff
09-21-2009, 07:29 AM
"i'm an expert" blah,blah,blah.......until you're proven wrong, then your someone who was fos.

:rofl:

TailgateNut
09-21-2009, 07:39 AM
:rofl:


Just look at the media/football experts and their wonderful "foresight". They are professionals when it comes to predicting AND backtracking.

They are also experts at marinating and seasoning CROW.

Popcorn Sutton
09-21-2009, 08:08 AM
How about everyone just stop and think for once before hitting that little "submit post" button?

Why try rubbing someone's face in previous comments when we're 2-0? Its not like we're 12-0. Have some patience, enjoy the season, and those "told you so" internet victories won't seem so important.

And for the opposite side of the spectrum, why try belittling and downplaying a surprisingly solid start from a team we all are supposed to be pulling for? That kind of overt negativity is what drives the previously mentioned spiteful "told you so" posting.

The season is early. There are more important things than who was right or wrong in a message board debate from a few weeks or months ago.

There are questions on offense, of course. The defense looks surprisingly good, but just how good is it really? Special teams have been hit (KR/PR coverage) and miss (Prater, twice). There are highs and lows within games, just like there will be highs and lows within the season. We will lose a game at some point, probably ugly.

Enjoy the season, we're 2-0. We've done it against some questionable competition, one of which looks like a potentially solid team (Cincy), the other looks horrible but we routed them (the Cleeve). We got a divisional rivalry next week on the road, it'll be a tough game and another big test for this significantly overhauled team. I'm looking forward to it.

So before the next person wants to play thread Jesus and bring up some months old relic for one or two face rubbing quotes, or starts mocking someone's fandom, football IQ, etc. because they disagreed or still disagree with you ask yourself "do I really want to be that douche?"

There will be plenty of time for all that when the season is in the books, now its time for Bronco Nation to cheer for a good looking Broncos squad to keep the run alive one more week.

Just felt like bumping the OP.

Broncoman13
09-21-2009, 08:20 AM
A like to look at the Broncos as a diamond in the carbon stages. It has the potential to be special. Orton isn't and wouldn't be my first choice as team qb, but as long as we hold teams to low scores he has the uses his mgt skills and doesn't make stupid mistakes we have a chance to not be the CELLAR DWELLARS 75-80% of the football "experts" predicted we would be.
That'll make my day.

"I'm an expert" Blah,blah,blah.......until you're proven wrong, then your someone who was FOS.

I think that is key with Orton's game right now... It is not fun to watch a lot of the time and I even find myself getting frustrated, but at the end of the day he isn't turning the ball over and he is making plays to win games. An ugly day of work resulted in 263 yards passing and a TD and most importantly a 27-6 win. You can probably guess how ugly it is by the fact that ESPN is not showing two games in their highlights, the Broncos and Chefs.

Gort
09-21-2009, 08:43 AM
Don't be ignorant and post threads saying that we're winning the division. It's WEEK TWO PEOPLE.

can you actually point me to a thread here - any thread - since the start of the season (let's say the night before the CIN game) where anybody has said that we're winning the AFC West, or are you just using hyperbole? because i don't think anyone has called us the AFC West champs as a result of these 2 wins... or at least i haven't seen anyone write that. people are simply saying to enjoy the wins and stop bitching about how tough the upcoming schedule is going to be, or how the Broncos will soon be on a 6 game losing streak, etc...

i mean if you're going to slam people for writing something you don't agree with, at least be able to show that they are really writing it and that you're not making it up.

Tombstone RJ
09-21-2009, 08:51 AM
Winning sure does cure a lot of ills.

Rohirrim
09-21-2009, 09:01 AM
I feel very good about what I've seen so far, well maybe except for Orton. Of course, he's not blowing it, but he's not spectacular either. What I most enjoy watching is the D. And I'm very grateful, because I know I could be sitting there watching another season of Slowikball. I much prefer this. ;D

Gort
09-21-2009, 09:08 AM
I feel very good about what I've seen so far, well maybe except for Orton. Of course, he's not blowing it, but he's not spectacular either. What I most enjoy watching is the D. And I'm very grateful, because I know I could be sitting there watching another season of Slowikball. I much prefer this. ;D

that... and McD keeps his foot on the gas. for 2 straight weeks now, the Broncos have had possession with under 2 minutes remaining in the 1st half, with the other team set to receive the 2nd half kickoff, and McD has had them drive the ball to try and get a score. under Shanny, he'd have them take a knee 3 straight times and go to the locker room. i always hated that. you need to treat every possession as a chance to score. McD knows that. Shanny, not so much. i also hope Nolan learned his lesson from CIN... that playing a soft prevent-style defense at the end of the game (basically trading yards for time and hoping the other team makes a mistake - which was Shanny's defensive mindset the last few years) only serves to prevent victory. play all game with the defense that works. don't switch to preserve a lead and hope that you can run out the clock before the other team can catch you.

Irish Stout
09-21-2009, 09:20 AM
Great Post Drek! I agree.

Irish Stout
09-21-2009, 09:23 AM
that... and McD keeps his foot on the gas. for 2 straight weeks now, the Broncos have had possession with under 2 minutes remaining in the 1st half, with the other team set to receive the 2nd half kickoff, and McD has had them drive the ball to try and get a score. under Shanny, he'd have them take a knee 3 straight times and go to the locker room. i always hated that. you need to treat every possession as a chance to score. McD knows that. Shanny, not so much. i also hope Nolan learned his lesson from CIN... that playing a soft prevent-style defense at the end of the game (basically trading yards for time and hoping the other team makes a mistake - which was Shanny's defensive mindset the last few years) only serves to prevent victory. play all game with the defense that works. don't switch to preserve a lead and hope that you can run out the clock before the other team can catch you.

Dude! That would piss me off so friggin bad! Shanny would be within 15 yards of field goal position and would friggin kneel with 30 seconds still on the clock and a time out to spare.

I think it was two years ago we lost a game to Indy when we were up in the first half, but we kneeled on it before halftime killing plenty of time on the clock and knowing we were kicking off to Indy. You could just tell that Indy had struggled the first quarter, but was starting to pick up its pace towards the end of the second... I knew on that kneel we had lost that game and I was furious at Shanny.

SportinOne
09-21-2009, 09:24 AM
This whole peace thing with the thick headed dimwits who didn't want to dig past the surface to see what mcdaniels was doing is going to be hard on those of us who did see the vision of what he is doing. I mean, these guys did everything they could to convince others that mcdaniels was destroying the team and that bowlen was a gutless drunk. I've heard bad things said about all parts of the broncos before they even hit the field.

So, it is going to be hard to forgive these guys. Don't get me wrong, it is their right, but they were being major douche bags in the way they were acting. It is a shame that this off-season split bronco fans so much but winning cures everything! I will not forget or forgive the unbelievers easily though...But hey, as mcdaniels continues winning and the team actually beats teams it should and puts up a fight against better teams i'm sure the unbelievers will come back into the fold and after a few years things will seem normal again as we're winning consistently and not ever giving up. I know this is a stupid internet message board but damn, those of us who are very passionate about the broncos will find it hard to forgive the unbelievers. In time though, in time...

I was not on board with:

Cutler being traded
Trading a 1st for a 2nd
Various "get MY guys on MY team" moves

That doesn't mean I'm not a Bronco fan and that I want us to lose just to prove my point. So pardon me if I don't "come back into the fold" since I'm already ****ing there and have been the whole time.

Secondly, were the people that disagreed with what McDaniels was doing acting like "major douchebags" or was it more like: there was an argument at hand, and you felt like you were completely right so anyone who disagrees is a douchebag? There were many, many, many arguments. Siding with someone who is employed by the team to run the team doesn't make you right or me a traitor.

That would be like saying that if you don't agree with what Obama wants to do then you are unamerican and a "major douchebag."

BroncoBuff
09-21-2009, 10:01 AM
What do you have to forgive? They disagreed with you on Broncos football because they love the Broncos too and just didn't think we where going in a good direction. Its not like they where saying uncouth things about your mom or sister.
DING DING DING .... we have another winner!

This is such a refreshing thread. I still just can't understand what kinds of insecurities exist in people who demand you agree with them at the point of an insult.

All Broncos fans are created equal (except tailgatenut, he's one level above the rest of us ;D) ... let's all remember that.

BroncoBuff
09-21-2009, 10:03 AM
How about just.....

Go Broncos!!!!!

Works For Me ... !! ^5

Rock Chalk
09-21-2009, 10:42 AM
I was not on board with:

Cutler being traded
Trading a 1st for a 2nd
Various "get MY guys on MY team" moves

That doesn't mean I'm not a Bronco fan and that I want us to lose just to prove my point. So pardon me if I don't "come back into the fold" since I'm already ****ing there and have been the whole time.

Secondly, were the people that disagreed with what McDaniels was doing acting like "major douchebags" or was it more like: there was an argument at hand, and you felt like you were completely right so anyone who disagrees is a douchebag? There were many, many, many arguments. Siding with someone who is employed by the team to run the team doesn't make you right or me a traitor.

That would be like saying that if you don't agree with what Obama wants to do then you are unamerican and a "major douchebag."

No, if oyu disagree with Obama you are a racist.

Miss I.
09-21-2009, 10:53 AM
I am happy we won. I am happy I got to see a game streaming on the net in England even if it meant I was a bit tired at work today (a lot of coffee and a nice brisk shower cured at least part of that). I hope to see a positive trend the whole season (yes there are areas for improvement as all teams in the NFL probably need...I mean NE lost to the Jets for goodness sakes, so I imagine they are getting quite the earful).

By the way, I know this is going to sound kind of dumb, but do we have a particular fight song because I loved having one in college (it's a little goofy I know, but I am a lot goofy so I can't help it).

Anyway yesterday was a fun day of football all around. With some really bad games and some really fun games and of course our win made me all happy at work. Watching yesterday and also looking at some of the other games brought be just a little bit of that I love football fever I have been missing lately.

Go Broncos!

55CrushEm
09-21-2009, 10:59 AM
DING DING DING .... we have another winner!

This is such a refreshing thread. I still just can't understand what kinds of insecurities exist in people who demand you agree with them at the point of an insult.

All Broncos fans are created equal (except tailgatenut, he's one level above the rest of us ;D) ... let's all remember that.

We should ask broncofan7........Ha!

gyldenlove
09-21-2009, 11:00 AM
Lets see if this 06 revisited or if our D is for real the entire the season. I like the aggression we have, if we can keep it up against Dallas who will come at us we have taken a huge step.

If the offense keeps improving.

TailgateNut
09-21-2009, 11:06 AM
All Broncos fans are created equal (except tailgatenut, he's one level above the rest of us ;D) ... let's all remember that.


WTF is that about? Just because I didn't get on the "Firing Cutler was the biggest mistake ever" wagon, or Just because I wasn't willing to call the season a complete and utter failure before the first coin toss,or Just because I wasn't part of the McD and Orton lynch mob, Or was it because I responde to the Negative Nacies in kind?

WTF?

TailgateNut
09-21-2009, 11:07 AM
We should ask broncofan7........Ha!
....or jhns, or Colonel Beef, or lex, or..........

tsiguy96
09-21-2009, 11:13 AM
WTF is that about? Just because I didn't get on the "Firing Cutler was the biggest mistake ever" wagon, or Just because I wasn't willing to call the season a complete and utter failure before the first coin toss,or Just because I wasn't part of the McD and Orton lynch mob, Or was it because I responde to the Negative Nacies in kind?

WTF?

dont worry, me and tonyr are single handedly destroying this message board with optimism and fair criticism. if you arent a negative debbie downer, you are a burden to this forum.

Florida_Bronco
09-21-2009, 11:16 AM
What do you have to forgive? They disagreed with you on Broncos football because they love the Broncos too and just didn't think we where going in a good direction. Its not like they where saying uncouth things about your mom or sister.

The only right of forgiveness here will come at the end of the season when (and if) McDaniels surprises the football world. He'll deserve all the apologies and be the one handing out the forgiveness. No one on this board was the direct target of all the vitriol on this board.

Some people (on both sides) acted like huge douche bags to other people on this board. Now is a great time to let winning cure all that. If the Broncos keep putting up W's on Sundays don't you think all the negative mindset posters will know they where wrong? Do you really think we need to remind people of that?

Be magnanimous and humble while being right is a key sign of good character.

Another excellent post.

epicSocialism4tw
09-21-2009, 12:07 PM
No, if oyu disagree with Obama you are a racist.

If you mention the idea that people who disagree with Obama are racists, then you are a racist.

Lev Vyvanse
09-28-2009, 03:59 PM
Bump
Go Broncos!