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cdabroncofan
09-17-2009, 09:00 AM
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For one day at least, Vince Young stepped up to try to fill the void for the late Steve McNair's two young sons, the Tennessean reported Thursday.

Young surprised 11-year-old Trenton and 5-year-old Tyler on Wednesday by showing up at their house and taking them to their school's "Dear Dads Breakfast" at a local restaurant.



Those are my boys. I wouldn't say it was to pay anyone back; it was just out of love. Steve would do it for me. He pretty much did it for me when I was growing up. I have a history with the boys and I want to do anything I can. I am their big brother.


-- Vince Young

"Those are my boys," Young told the Tennessean. "I wouldn't say it was to pay anyone back; it was just out of love. Steve would do it for me. He pretty much did it for me when I was growing up. I have a history with the boys and I want to do anything I can. I am their big brother."

Julie Dilworth, admissions director at St. Paul Christian Academy, lauded Young's actions.

"It was a great, great gesture," Dilworth told the Tennessean. "All the kids had been talking about the dads' breakfast and [Trenton and Tyler] were wondering what was going to happen with them.

"They were thrilled ... the boys came to school with huge smiles on their faces."

Young had a close relationship with Steve McNair, even before the latter was drafted by the Titans four years ago. He attended McNair's football camps when he was young. McNair was shot and killed July 4.

Besides being there for McNair's sons, Young gave other kids at the school jerseys and autographs.

"It was a surprise, and just to see the excitement on their faces, it's a great feeling," Young told the Tennessean. "We had a good time eating pancakes. I had an omelet.

"Overall they are doing cool, doing good. Just talking to their mom, I think they are going to be all right. I am always going to be here for them, always."

McNair also had two older teenage sons.


You don't hear enough these stories these days. Good for you Vince.

Rohirrim
09-17-2009, 09:03 AM
Very classy. Standing O for him.

Broncoman13
09-17-2009, 09:10 AM
AWESOME!~!

VY is going to be a player in this league once he learns to overcome his emotions... that is probably his biggest downfall, his emotion. But, without that emotion he probably wouldn't have gone to the "Dad's Breakfast", and to me that is a bigger deal then how he played on Sunday.

bfoflcommish
09-17-2009, 09:12 AM
i read this earlier this morning and have alot of respect for VY as a person.

Pony Boy
09-17-2009, 09:44 AM
That was nice of "Radio" to take the time to do that .............

Popcorn Sutton
09-17-2009, 09:50 AM
Very cool.

Crushisback
09-17-2009, 09:52 AM
Good for Vince. There are many players in the NFL making small gestures like this to make huge diffences in the lives of others. It's just too bad we hear about a guy getting a speeding ticket before we ever hear these stories.

broncosteven
09-17-2009, 10:06 AM
Nice jesture by VY, I hope he keeps up the leadership stuff...but shouldn't the thread title be "Shirts off to VY"?

LOL

Mr. Elway
09-17-2009, 10:21 AM
Awesome move on his part. Breaks my heart to think of McNair's kids.

DomCasual
09-17-2009, 10:30 AM
Yep. Very nice stuff. Kids in that situation break my heart. I bet it was a huge deal for them.

bronco militia
09-17-2009, 10:33 AM
that was nice of "radio" to take the time to do that .............

bwhaha

BroncoLifer
09-17-2009, 10:37 AM
If VY was on the Mane, I would rep him - very classy.

McDman
09-17-2009, 10:39 AM
That was nice of "Radio" to take the time to do that .............

Hahahahaha, I actually cracked up when I read that.

Jesterhole
09-17-2009, 10:48 AM
ghey

Broncos123
09-17-2009, 11:06 AM
That is great! Good story.

supermanhr9
09-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Very respectful. Still don't like him though.

Florida_Bronco
09-17-2009, 11:30 AM
Ahhh man, now I can't talk bad about him anymore. :)

SportinOne
09-17-2009, 11:31 AM
Very respectful. Still don't like him though.

As a player or as a person?

nevermind, i don't care.

Garcia Bronco
09-17-2009, 12:24 PM
Good work.

DenverBrit
09-17-2009, 12:47 PM
Nicely done, Vince. :thumbsup:

gyldenlove
09-17-2009, 12:50 PM
Good person, bad player, the anti pacman really.

BroncoMan4ever
09-17-2009, 01:04 PM
never liked the guy, even going back to college(as a football player), but i have to give credit to him being an awesome person, and returning the favor McNair gave him as a kid to McNair's kids.

hookemhess
09-17-2009, 01:30 PM
never liked the guy, even going back to college(as a football player), but i have to give credit to him being an awesome person, and returning the favor McNair gave him as a kid to McNair's kids.

Yeah, I can understand people not liking the greatest college qb of all time.

Vince is great. I had a couple classes with him at UT... was always real nice to ppl who came up to him before/after class. And surprisingly, he paid attention and took notes... but he did get the separate testing room treatment.

rbackfactory80
09-17-2009, 01:32 PM
What a great gesture. I hope he gets it together and has a great career.

maher_tyler
09-17-2009, 03:34 PM
That's awesome...words can't describe what he did for those two kids!

Mogulseeker
09-17-2009, 03:40 PM
Anyone read the article Vine Young wrote in Esquire?

Esquire magazine has a feature called "What I've Learned" and it's basically articles written by outstanding individuals of arts & letters, sports, science, theater, whatever... Vince Young was in it either last month of the one before that.

Vince Young talked about his cocaine-addicted mother, and his deadbeat dad, and worthless uncle who would always steal from his family. He basically became the adult of his house at a very young age.

The guy has had an extremely tough life, but I think he is one of the more outstanding PEOPLE in the NFL. He has the tools, too. I was disappointed when the Titans benched him, because I really want this guy to succeed.

Florida_Bronco
09-17-2009, 03:59 PM
Yeah, I can understand people not liking the greatest college qb of all time.

:spit:

gunns
09-17-2009, 04:46 PM
What a wonderful difference he made in one day. Very thoughtful. Changes my whole perception of the guy. Those emotions he has did some very good.

epicSocialism4tw
09-17-2009, 11:12 PM
Anyone read the article Vine Young wrote in Esquire?

Esquire magazine has a feature called "What I've Learned" and it's basically articles written by outstanding individuals of arts & letters, sports, science, theater, whatever... Vince Young was in it either last month of the one before that.

Vince Young talked about his cocaine-addicted mother, and his deadbeat dad, and worthless uncle who would always steal from his family. He basically became the adult of his house at a very young age.

The guy has had an extremely tough life, but I think he is one of the more outstanding PEOPLE in the NFL. He has the tools, too. I was disappointed when the Titans benched him, because I really want this guy to succeed.

Yeah. I'm an OU guy and I started seeing him early in his college career. I took interest because he seemed likeable in a classy way (atypical of what you expect out of UT ;D ). He interviewed well and had a great personality.

BroncoMan4ever
09-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Yeah, I can understand people not liking the greatest college qb of all time.

Vince is great. I had a couple classes with him at UT... was always real nice to ppl who came up to him before/after class. And surprisingly, he paid attention and took notes... but he did get the separate testing room treatment.

i never saw him as the greatest college QB of all time. i always saw him as the QB who had a great bowl game appearance that sent his stock soaring. prior to that bowl game against USC he was never being mentioned as one of the greatest college QBs ever. he was seen as good but he was vastly overhyped in the months before the draft.

i'm not saying anything about him personally, or that he is a bad guy or anything, because i don't know. i am judging him solely on the opinion i had of him coming out of college of him being overhyped pre draft due to a great bowl game, and that in his personal life he is a good man for stepping up as a mentor to McNair's kids.

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2009, 12:30 AM
i never saw him as the greatest college QB of all time. i always saw him as the QB who had a great bowl game appearance that sent his stock soaring. prior to that bowl game against USC he was never being mentioned as one of the greatest college QBs ever. he was seen as good but he was vastly overhyped in the months before the draft.

i'm not saying anything about him personally, or that he is a bad guy or anything, because i don't know. i am judging him solely on the opinion i had of him coming out of college of him being overhyped pre draft due to a great bowl game, and that in his personal life he is a good man for stepping up as a mentor to McNair's kids.

Look. You saw him play a couple times. Just admit that you really dont know one way or the other.

Young was outstanding the entire time he played at UT. The guy lost ONE game as a full time starter. One. That game was a hard-fought Red River Rivalry game that they lost to Oklahoma who went on to play in the championship game that year.

As an 11-1 team, UT beat Michigan 38-37 in the Rose Bowl and Vince Young was a monster. Just as he would do the following year against USC, Young dominated a tough back-and-forth game that he eventually won for the Longhorns in a similar fashion. Vince Young was involved in every score that the Longhorns put on the board except for one...the game winning field goal...and Young drove the team down the field nearly by himself to put the Longhorns in range for that one. The Longhorns got the ball with about 3 minutes left and Young ran the ball down their throats from the Texas 35 down to the Michigan 21. He gained all but 6 of the yard that UT earned on that drive. The game winning FG was kicked with 2 seconds on the board. Thats masterful game management.

Young was unstoppable. Literally unstoppable. I have never seen a player dominate a football game like Young could in college. When the field was spread and he was in shotgun, he was like Elway. You couldnt do anything about what he was going to do to you. He's the closest thing to Elway that Ive ever seen. He dominated football games the way that Jordan dominated the NBA, and I have never seen a player do that before. I probably never will again. When it was time to put up or shut up, Young was unstoppable. In the last 50 seconds, Young was unstoppable.

Young is the greatest clutch player in college football, and I think that he's probably one of, if not the, greatest college player of all-time.

If nothing else, he's the undisputed King of the Rose Bowl.

enjolras
09-18-2009, 12:30 AM
Vince was a great college Quarterback (so was Matt Jones tho). I'm a CU guy, but I lived in Dallas during VY's run. I really enjoyed watching him play, his athletic ability was just miles beyond anyone on the field in terms of pure athleticism. He could just accelerate like crazy.

Greatest of all time? I doubt that. Certainly played a huge role in one of the college footballs greatest games, however.

I'm not sure he'll ever be a day to day started in the NFL. It would be interesting to see him in the 'slash' role that Kordell Stewart used to run. Young is twice the athelete he was, and it might be really effective on the right team.

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2009, 12:36 AM
Vince was a great college Quarterback (so was Matt Jones tho). I'm a CU guy, but I lived in Dallas during VY's run. I really enjoyed watching him play, his athletic ability was just miles beyond anyone on the field in terms of pure athleticism. He could just accelerate like crazy.

Austin's a long way from Dallas. Matt Jones is a long way from Vince Young.


Greatest of all time? I doubt that.

Who has been better? And how is that so?


Certainly played a huge role in one of the college footballs greatest games, however.

He played the starring role in that game.

I'm not sure he'll ever be a day to day started in the NFL. It would be interesting to see him in the 'slash' role that Kordell Stewart used to run. Young is twice the athelete he was, and it might be really effective on the right team.

If he finds some motivation to succeed in the NFL, he'll be as good as he wants to be. When he's on, he's a man among boys on the field.

BroncoMan4ever
09-18-2009, 12:47 AM
Look. You saw him play a couple times. Just admit that you really dont know one way or the other.

Young was outstanding the entire time he played at UT. The guy lost ONE game as a full time starter. One. That game was a hard-fought Red River Rivalry game that they lost to Oklahoma who went on to play in the championship game that year.

As an 11-1 team, UT beat Michigan 38-37 in the Rose Bowl and Vince Young was a monster. Just as he would do the following year against USC, Young dominated a tough back-and-forth game that he eventually won for the Longhorns in a similar fashion. Vince Young was involved in every score that the Longhorns put on the board except for one...the game winning field goal...and Young drove the team down the field nearly by himself to put the Longhorns in range for that one. The Longhorns got the ball with about 3 minutes left and Young ran the ball down their throats from the Texas 35 down to the Michigan 21. He gained all but 6 of the yard that UT earned on that drive. The game winning FG was kicked with 2 seconds on the board. Thats masterful game management.

Young was unstoppable. Literally unstoppable. I have never seen a player dominate a football game like Young could in college. When the field was spread and he was in shotgun, he was like Elway. You couldnt do anything about what he was going to do to you. He's the closest thing to Elway that Ive ever seen. He dominated football games the way that Jordan dominated the NBA, and I have never seen a player do that before. I probably never will again. When it was time to put up or shut up, Young was unstoppable. In the last 50 seconds, Young was unstoppable.

Young is the greatest clutch player in college football, and I think that he's probably one of, if not the, greatest college player of all-time.

If nothing else, he's the undisputed King of the Rose Bowl.

give me a break. just because i haven't annointed him the greatest college QB of all time means nothing. Tebow is better in college than Vince Young was.

lots of QBs dominate in college and it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. look at all the players from elite programs in the country who fail the moment they are no longer on stacked teams.

and i have never said anything bad about his college play, simply i have never believed him to be the greatest college QB of all time. he was good in college, but a lot of that comes from playing for a program stacked with talent. and yes he had an ability to take over games late and his bowl performance was incredible which i have admitted, but those heroics are not possible if he didn't have really strong teams built around him.

Do you truly believe he replicates his performance from UT if he played for a program like CU during his college years?

i don't give a damn what a college record says about a QB, because in college football, programs like Texas, USC, Florida, LSU are always the best of the best because they get their picks of the top talent in high school kids coming to college and are capable of being head and shoulders above the rest of college football teams.

also, as a CU fan, i watch and know about what is going on in the Big 12

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2009, 12:56 AM
give me a break. just because i haven't annointed him the greatest college QB of all time means nothing. Tebow is better in college than Vince Young was.

[QUOTE]lots of QBs dominate in college and it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. look at all the players from elite programs in the country who fail the moment they are no longer on stacked teams.

Ha!

Lets see...We're talking about whether or not he is the greatest college QB of all time, it doesnt help your argument to say that his play in college doesnt meant anything. After all, arent we arguing his position among the all-time college greats? What are you arguing?

and yes he had an ability to take over games late and his bowl performance was incredible which i have admitted, but those heroics are not possible if he didn't have really strong teams built around him.

So...Tebow isnt surrounded by talent? Bradford? Matt Leinart? Carson Palmer? Colt McCoy? These guys are in great programs for a reason...because they are immense talents who are sought because they are outstanding.

Do you truly believe he replicates his performance from UT if he played for a program like CU during his college years?

First off, Young wouldnt have ended up there because he was literally to good of a prospect. But had he gone to CU, he would have started as a freshman and set all sorts of records there. A player like that turns a program around.

i don't give a damn what a college record says about a QB, because in college football, programs like Texas, USC, Florida, LSU are always the best of the best because they get their picks of the top talent in high school kids coming to college and are capable of being head and shoulders above the rest of college football teams.

:spit:

Again youre arguing that you dont care what they accomplished in college. Remember, we are talking about college. Nothing else matters.

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2009, 01:01 AM
also, as a CU fan, i watch and know about what is going on in the Big 12

Well, you must remember Young absolutely destroying your Buffaloes 70-3 in the Big 12 Championship game on their way to the historic win against "the greatest college team of all time" Bush and Leinart's USC bell-cow.

BroncoMan4ever
09-18-2009, 01:09 AM
Lets see...We're talking about whether or not he is the greatest college QB of all time, it doesnt help your argument to say that his play in college doesnt meant anything. After all, arent we arguing his position among the all-time college greats? What are you arguing?

So...Tebow isnt surrounded by talent? Bradford? Matt Leinart? Carson Palmer? Colt McCoy? These guys are in great programs for a reason...because they are immense talents who are sought because they are outstanding.

you miss the point completely, basically like lex when it pertains to those whose nuts you swing from having to jumble words to get your point across.
but the point is, there is not a snowballs chance in hell he is thought of as highly as he is now, had he not played for a stacked team. put him at any lower level school(in terms of recruiting) in college and he isn't seen as a TOP 5 talent coming into the draft.

he had the privelege of playing for a team that could have won with almost anyone at the QB position. hell switch Cutler and Young in college and Cutler does just as well or better than Young did at Texas, and the same can't be said of Young at Vanderbilt.

and yes, it is the same with the guys like Young, Leinart, Palmer, Bradford McCoy, they are nowhere near as good as they are thought of in college because they were part of programs anyone could have looked great in.


First off, Young wouldnt have ended up there because he was literally to good of a prospect. But had he gone to CU, he would have started as a freshman and set all sorts of records there. A player like that turns a program around.

that is complete conjecture on your part trying to make him into some sort of superman. in a school with half the talent that Texas had during his tenure as QB there, this discussion doesn't even arise because no one would ever think of him as highly as you do.

BroncoMan4ever
09-18-2009, 01:15 AM
Well, you must remember Young absolutely destroying your Buffaloes 70-3 in the Big 12 Championship game on their way to the historic win against "the greatest college team of all time" Bush and Leinart's USC bell-cow.

big whoop. that goes back to the point i made about him leading a totally stacked team.
what separates him from the pack of guys like Leinart, McCoy, Tebow, Bradford who have all been surrounded by elite college talent, to make him the greatest college QB ever.

all you do is spout on about the TEAM he was apart of, with no real reason as to why he is different than any other supposedly elite college QB surrounded by elite talent?

i don't remember seeing one thing about him that separated him and elevated him over his peers at the QB position in college. he was good in college no doubt, but the greatest ever, not a chance.

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2009, 01:18 AM
you miss the point completely, basically like lex when it pertains to those whose nuts you swing from having to jumble words to get your point across.
but the point is, there is not a snowballs chance in hell he is thought of as highly as he is now, had he not played for a stacked team. put him at any lower level school(in terms of recruiting) in college and he isn't seen as a TOP 5 talent coming into the draft.

he had the privelege of playing for a team that could have won with almost anyone at the QB position. hell switch Cutler and Young in college and Cutler does just as well or better than Young did at Texas, and the same can't be said of Young at Vanderbilt.

and yes, it is the same with the guys like Young, Leinart, Palmer, Bradford McCoy, they are nowhere near as good as they are thought of in college because they were part of programs anyone could have looked great in.




that is complete conjecture on your part trying to make him into some sort of superman. in a school with half the talent that Texas had during his tenure as QB there, this discussion doesn't even arise because no one would ever think of him as highly as you do.

Ah...so I get it now. I see.

You're right.

Every player on UT was a super prospect except for Vince Young. Ah. Okay. I see. The same applies to Tebow and Bradford. Every player on their team is great, and thus, they are great.

I was extremely confused in my thinking that Young, Tebow, and Bradford are all outstanding players themselves. Shown by the fact that they are the engines that drive (or drove in Youngs case) their programs, which contain super talent. They couldnt be the cream of the crop. There's no way that Young, Tebow, and Bradford are so good that they rise above the rest. Its not possible. It has to be the other players.

You should just let me kick you in the jimmy. It would hurt less, take up less of your time, and you wouldnt build up so much animosity.

BroncoMan4ever
09-18-2009, 01:22 AM
Ah...so I get it now. I see.

You're right.

Every player on UT was a super prospect except for Vince Young. Ah. Okay. I see. The same applies to Tebow and Bradford. Every player on their team is great, and thus, they are great.

I was extremely confused in my thinking that Young, Tebow, and Bradford are all outstanding players themselves. Shown by the fact that they are the engines that drive (or drove in Youngs case) their programs, which contain super talent. They couldnt be the cream of the crop. There's no way that Young, Tebow, and Bradford are so good that they rise above the rest. Its not possible. It has to be the other players.

You should just let me kick you in the jimmy. It would hurt less, take up less of your time, and you wouldnt build up so much animosity.

you know just like everyone else, that teams like USC, TExas, Florida are always going to be above everyone else in college football. and yes in many cases the worst players on programs like these powerhouses would be top players in lower level schools. from top to bottom the powerhouse programs are better than lower level schools could ever hope to be, and because of that, good players are seen as more special than they are because of the talent around them, and Young is a recipient of that

but it is almost 230 in the morning, and i am about to crash, so if it is necessary we can continue this discussion tomorrow, however it is just getting to the point of being a pointless back and forth in which 2 varying opinions are never going to see eye to eye, so we can just agree to disagree, no point in getting pissed off at each other over something that doesn't even have any bearing on Broncos football.

for tonight, i'll just leave it with my original though that Young is a good man for what he is doing for McNair's family.

hookemhess
09-18-2009, 07:21 AM
hell switch Cutler and Young in college and Cutler does just as well or better than Young did at Texas, and the same can't be said of Young at Vanderbilt.

You lose all credibility with this little gem. Yes, Cutler is a better pro right now...but tell me with a straight face that Jay could have made 1 of these plays with his legs:

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And don't give me any crap about Vince's passing...he was the most efficient QB in the nation his last year.

BroncoMan4ever
09-18-2009, 11:56 AM
You lose all credibility with this little gem. Yes, Cutler is a better pro right now...but tell me with a straight face that Jay could have made 1 of these plays with his legs:

And don't give me any crap about Vince's passing...he was the most efficient QB in the nation his last year.

i am not at all a Cutler lover, but it makes no sense to compare specific plays that 1 guy can do that another can't. i am simply saying Cutler in Texas ends with the same or better results for Texas over the time Young started. But Young at Vanderbilt, does not come close to replicating what Jay did there, or does he still look good enough to warrant being a 1st round pick.

i have never said anything about his passing, i just don't think he is the greatest college QB of all time. he was good, and played great in some games, but he wasn't so special that he was better than every college QB ever.

Crushisback
09-18-2009, 01:21 PM
Well, you must remember Young absolutely destroying your Buffaloes 70-3 in the Big 12 Championship game on their way to the historic win against "the greatest college team of all time" Bush and Leinart's USC bell-cow.

Damn dude. What do you want to hear? "Vince Young is the greatest NCAA player ever". There it is he is king of college football.

He absolutley sucks as a pro! He has no future in the NFL. He can't even beat out Kerry Freakin Collins! Therefore OVERHYPED going into the draft!

Crushisback
09-18-2009, 01:27 PM
At least Charlie Ward could play basketball! VY's earning potential dies with his rookie contract!.......Good person though.

Mediator12
09-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Not enough people like Vince Young in the NFL. Most of them are so damn self absorbed they would not even consider doing somthing like that. The more I read the mane the more I realize that they just represent their entire generation....