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Pseudofool
09-17-2009, 07:52 AM
Cleveland at Denver
cle When: 4:15 PM ET
Watch: CBS
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After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week's Browns-Broncos matchup.

1. Wrap up WR Eddie Royal: Royal is often compared to Wes Welker in Josh McDaniels' passing attack, but the truth is that Royal is much faster than Welker and can get deep if he has to. Royal will mostly be used on quick screens and other quick-hitting routes. He can nickel and dime a defense to death and is very good after the catch. Cleveland has to limit the damage he does and get him on the ground quickly after the reception. Denver must make a point to get Royal more involved this week.

2. Keep contain: Led by LT Ryan Clady, Denver is exceptional with their perimeter run blocking. It is imperative for the Browns' 3-4 outside linebackers to keep contain and funnel the action back inside for their inside linebackers to clean up. If the outside guys are unable to secure the edge, big runs should ensue.

3. Pound the rock: Jamal Lewis ran hard and looked relatively spry in Week 1 against a very stout Minnesota defensive front. Backup James Davis is banged up a bit, but that shouldn't keep Cleveland from staying patient with the ground attack.

4. Excel in sub packages: The Broncos will usually operate out of three- and even four-wide-receiver sets. This obviously will challenge the Browns' sub package defenses. Their secondary isn't particularly deep, which is a major concern in a matchup such as this. However, Denver did turn over the ball far too often this preseason and there appear to be obvious growing pains with this passing attack.

5. Matchup to watch: Broncos OLB Elvis Dumervil vs. Browns LT Joe Thomas: Thomas is one of the elite left tackles in the game, but he is also very tall and could struggle with leverage against the much shorter Dumervil. Dumervil plays the game very low and shows exceptional quickness off the edge. Their skill sets are vastly different, so this should be an excellent individual confrontation.

6. Restrain Shaun Rogers: Rogers can be a man among boys when he is on top of his game and has a massive size advantage against the interior of the Broncos' smaller offensive line. If Denver tries to run right at Cleveland's nose tackle, they will have little success. But if they are able to get him moving laterally and cut out his legs at times, running lanes could appear. Rogers is also fully capable of collapsing the pocket on any passing play. Compounding matters, starting OG Chris Kuper (ankle) probably will not play. Rogers often had his way with Minnesota C John Sullivan last week.

7. Shut down Braylon Edwards: Edwards is the only true big-play threat on Cleveland's offense. Forcing Cleveland to sustain offense and forge long drives will be very difficult on the Browns, but giving up the big play to Edwards may be more than Denver can overcome. However, Brady Quinn does seem very reluctant to throw downfield.

8. Rattle Brady Quinn: Quinn doesn't have a lot of NFL starting experience and facing a 3-4 defense, like the one that Denver runs, is often confusing. Denver is stronger in their secondary than they are up front, so expect them to put faith in their cover men by coming after Quinn in the passing game and keeping the bulk of their defense near the line of scrimmage. The Broncos did register four sacks last week in Cincinnati.

9. Contain Josh Cribbs: Cribbs may be a factor on offense and surely will take some direct snaps from the quarterback position, but he is most dangerous as a return man. Cribbs has a tremendous combination of tenacity, speed and elusiveness once he fields a kick. It what may prove to be an ugly game, a special-teams play might be the difference in a win or loss.

10. Matchup to watch: Browns WR Braylon Edwards vs. Broncos CB Champ Bailey: With a new coaching staff in Denver, it is tough to predict if the Broncos will choose to have Bailey shadow Edwards, but it would be a logical move as the Browns really only have Edwards as a true difference-maker in their receiving corps.

Prediction
adv: den Cleveland 10
Denver 17

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-17-2009, 08:02 AM
lol mangini

Old Dude
09-17-2009, 08:13 AM
On point 3: Lewis was held out of practice yesterday (after suffering neck stinger in the Viking game.) He might not be quite as spry.

On point 6: This is very scary. If Kuper is out again, Rogers could gobble up our whole interior line.

Popcorn Sutton
09-17-2009, 08:13 AM
Pseudo, do you have a link to this? Is it on ESpIN?

Doggcow
09-17-2009, 08:19 AM
On point 3: Lewis was held out of practice yesterday (after suffering neck stinger in the Viking game.) He might not be quite as spry.

On point 6: This is very scary. If Kuper is out again, Rogers could gobble up our whole interior line.

What exactly is a stinger?

Pseudofool
09-17-2009, 08:20 AM
Pseudo, do you have a link to this? Is it on ESpIN?It's insider, so I thought it best to just leave the link out.

Pseudofool
09-17-2009, 08:21 AM
What exactly is a stinger?

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/19629.jpg

RaiderH8r
09-17-2009, 08:22 AM
What exactly is a stinger?

The nerve bundle running down the neck and over the shoulder gets stretched or traumatized by a big hit (usually the neck goes left/right and the opposite shoulder goes down resulting in a stretched nerve) and that results in a fire sensation running down the arm and impairs motor skills in the affected region. Can be a couple of minutes or it can take a couple of days to recover. It sucks.

RaiderH8r
09-17-2009, 08:23 AM
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/19629.jpg

Or this.

TailgateNut
09-17-2009, 08:38 AM
Or this.

:rofl:

gyldenlove
09-17-2009, 08:51 AM
On point 3: Lewis was held out of practice yesterday (after suffering neck stinger in the Viking game.) He might not be quite as spry.

On point 6: This is very scary. If Kuper is out again, Rogers could gobble up our whole interior line.

Wiegmann did very well last year against some top NTs in 2 gap schemes (Wilfork and Jenkins) so there is hope that with a little help from his friends he can do the same to Rogers.

Bronco Boy
09-17-2009, 09:32 AM
That's interesting about Quinn facing a 3-4.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-17-2009, 09:38 AM
On point 3: Lewis was held out of practice yesterday (after suffering neck stinger in the Viking game.) He might not be quite as spry.

On point 6: This is very scary. If Kuper is out again, Rogers could gobble up our whole interior line.

Point 6 is what I've been concerned about since Sunday. Rogers poses the biggest threat to our offense right now IMO, considering the trouble the interior of our offensive line had last week.

GoBroncos DownUnder
09-17-2009, 09:45 AM
As long as we don't see this again, 70yd td waddle!!
http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2008/02/071104-shaun-rogers-int-for-td.jpg

DeuceOfClub
09-17-2009, 10:09 AM
Few random thoughts:

Scouts Inc. Gives advantage at Quarterback to Denver. A big surprise for the Mane community, as it was almost unanimous that Quinn's backup will be a huge upgrade over Orton.

The worst defense in the NFL history (well, almost) is already graded better on both DBs and LBs (!!!)

Scout "advice" Cleveland to "pound the rock" but reserve from doing the same to Denver.

"Contain Josh Cribbs" (point #9) the key to Denver success IMO. if the game doesn't go out of hand in any direction, Denver suspect ST coverage team can not allowed easy points.

boppool
09-17-2009, 10:24 AM
My prediction:

Cleveland: 2
Good guys: 3

Prater hitting 57 yarder as time expires...

oubronco
09-17-2009, 10:33 AM
As long as we don't see this again, 70yd td waddle!!
http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2008/02/071104-shaun-rogers-int-for-td.jpg

looks like the Bronco to his right is mocking him

BroncoMan4ever
09-17-2009, 11:04 AM
On point 3: Lewis was held out of practice yesterday (after suffering neck stinger in the Viking game.) He might not be quite as spry.

On point 6: This is very scary. If Kuper is out again, Rogers could gobble up our whole interior line.

i am expecting to see Hillis on the field a lot as an additional blocker if Kuper is out. and even if Kuper plays it wouldn't surprise me to see Hillis on the field early in the game just as a precaution if Kuper needs to shake off some rust.

Chris
09-17-2009, 02:20 PM
looks like the Bronco to his right is mocking him

It's the ability of people online to spot stuff like this that makes me chuckle inside.

maher_tyler
09-17-2009, 05:44 PM
As long as we keep it up with our quick passes and screens i don't see Rogers being that effective on passing downs..when we run could be another story. I'm thinking we pass early and often to get him and the rest of the D tired and in the 2nd half if we have the lead run the ball.

As long as we contain Edwards, Cribbs and Rogers...keep the TO's to a minimum, i don't see how we don't win this game. We out match them pretty much every where except the defensive front 7 and ST's.