Jimmy carter needs to retire

[Bronx33]

Iam speechless after hearing carter talk:

I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man

If this isn't a black eye for dem supporters cause i don't know what is does jimmy have one shread of evidence what is his logic behind this? what a off the wall bold faced last resort attempt to swoon the useful idiots and keep their attention the only way he could determine if they were racists would to be a mind reader. It that really what is come down too? calling people racists? because they disagree with the presidents policy.

He also brought up a sign that read Obama care needs to be buried with ted kennedy and said it read Obama needs to be buried with ted kennedy.just retire carter you have lost it and so has your party.

(yes i agree the sign was a little over the top so lets not go there ok)

Ya we need the opinion of a failed one term peanut farmer/president and to lie on top of that is mind boggling and pathetic.

[DBruleU]

Iam speechless after hearing carter talk:

I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man

If this isn't a black eye for dem supporters cause i don't know what is does jimmy have one shread of evidence what is his logic behind this? what a off the wall bold faced last resort attempt to swoon the useful idiots and keep their attention the only way he could determine if they were racists would to be a mind reader. It that really what is come down too? calling people racists? because they disagree with the presidents policy.

He also brought up a sign that read Obama care needs to be buried with ted kennedy and said it read Obama needs to be buried with ted kennedy.just retire carter you have lost it and so has your party.

(yes i agree the sign was a little over the top so lets not go there ok)

Ya we need the opinion of a failed one term peanut farmer/president and to lie on top of that is mind boggling and pathetic.

Birds of a feather, stick together. One terrible President to another....

[Traveler]

Welcome to your 4-8 years of hell!

[Bob]

You know they are loosing -- when the majority of Americans now who disagree with a liberal, have to be rascist? So when Rush disagrees with Carter is he just stupid, but when he disagrees with Obama on the same policy he is a rascist? Its the same tired tactic -- we see it now for what it is -- thugishness -- and we wont shut up, no matter who the spokesperson is for greater government control. Our country is at stake.

[Rohirrim]

Jimmy grew up in, and spent his whole life in Georgia. He knows peanuts when he smells them. ;D

[Bronx33]

You know they are loosing -- when the majority of Americans now who disagree with a liberal, have to be rascist? So when Rush disagrees with Carter is he just stupid, but when he disagrees with Obama on the same policy he is a rascist? Its the same tired tactic -- we see it now for what it is -- thugishness -- and we wont shut up, no matter who the spokesperson is for greater government control. Our country is at stake.

The left is just used to being told what to think.

[Traveler]

You know they are loosing -- when the majority of Americans now who disagree with a liberal, have to be rascist? So when Rush disagrees with Carter is he just stupid, but when he disagrees with Obama on the same policy he is a rascist? Its the same tired tactic -- we see it now for what it is -- thugishness -- and we wont shut up, no matter who the spokesperson is for greater government control. Our country is at stake.

Everyone grab your guns! There's a () in the WH!

[Bronx33]

Everyone grab your guns! There's a (extreme lying lefty) in the WH!

fixed...

[Rohirrim]

fixed...

That reminds me of that poster I saw some woman carry at the multi-million person tea bagger rally in D.C. the other day: "There's an African lion in the zoo and a lying African in the White House." Different.

[Rohirrim]

Everyone grab your guns! There's a () in the WH!

I want "MY" America back. :P

[gunns]

Birds of a feather, stick together. One terrible President to another....


I didn't read anything about Bush???

[Traveler]

fixed...

Doesn't this remind you when we were calling Bush a liar? And we were proved right.

Let's see where you guys stand when this Administration is no longer in DC.

[gunns]

The left is just used to being told what to think.

OMG, if that isn't the conservative pot calling the liberal kettle black.

[gunns]

Welcome to your 4-8 years of hell!

That just ended. I'm fine now.

[Bronx33]

Doesn't this remind you when we were calling Bush a liar? And we were proved right.

Let's see where you guys stand when this Administration is no longer in DC.


Stay on subject ok i know reverting back to bush remarks is all you got but that isn't the topic at hand.

[Traveler]

That just ended. I'm fine now.

Me too.

[Bronx33]

OMG, if that isn't the conservative pot calling the liberal kettle black.

Iam talking about right now this moment in time iam pointing out the adminisration attempt to lash out with baseless racism accusations.

[Traveler]

Stay on subject ok i know reverting back to bush remarks is all you got but that isn't the topic at hand.

What I said is true nonetheless, right? Same as old Jimmy!

[Rohirrim]

Iam talking about right now this moment in time iam pointing out the adminisration attempt to lash out with baseless racism accusations.

Oh, puleeze. Jimmy Carter grew up in the segregated South. You think he doesn't recognize what the **** is going on? Talk about suspension of disbelief.

You don't think that little Joe Wilson opera wasn't pre-planned? I got some land for sale in Florida.

[Traveler]

Iam talking about right now this moment in time iam pointing out the adminisration attempt to lash out with baseless racism accusations.

Now you are lying. Jimmy Carter is not part of this Administration, nor has anyone from this Administration claimed racism. If anything, they've broken their necks running away from such a claim.

You have the evidence to prove otherwise?

[Bronx33]

Oh, puleeze. Jimmy Carter grew up in the segregated South. You think he doesn't recognize what the **** is going on? Talk about suspension of disbelief.

You don't think that little Joe Wilson opera wasn't pre-planned? I got some land for sale in Florida.

I know jimmy carters background ok and iam too guess your going to over look this incident then right? business as usual don't want a damn thing fixed you want goverment setting up these plays to manipulate the dumbf**** that vote. :thumbsup: i guess i want a different goverment than you it seems your happy with the way it is.

[Rohirrim]

I know jimmy carters background ok and iam too guess your going to over look this incident then right? business as usual don't want a damn thing fixed you want goverment setting up these plays to manipulate the dumb***** that vote. :thumbsup: i guess i want a different goverment than you it seems your happy with the way it is.

Sounds to me like you're trying to take a bunch of stickum and paste all kinds of crap to Jimmy's remarks that don't belong there. It has nothing to do with Obama. Nothing to do with the government. It's a retired president's take on what he perceives to be going on. Take it or leave it.

[Bronx33]

Sounds to me like you're trying to take a bunch of stickum and paste all kinds of crap to Jimmy's remarks that don't belong there. It has nothing to do with Obama. Nothing to do with the government. It's a retired president's take on what he perceives to be going on. Take it or leave it.

All i know is carter is a representitive of the democratic party as hes calling me and others that simply disagree with obamas ( another democrat btw) policies nothing racial about it heck i disagreed with ted kennedy when he was pushing socialized medicine. But it must be some master plan set up to alienate even more people from supporting obama if i were obama i would have told carter to keep his mouth shut the bees nest is already pissed but i guess that was part of the master plan. ;)

[Traveler]

All i know is carter is a representitive of the democratic party as hes calling me and others that simply disagree with obamas ( another democrat btw) policies nothing racial about it heck i disagreed with ted kennedy when he was pushing socialized medicine. But it must be some master plan set up to alienate even more people from supporting obama if i were obama i would have told carter to keep his mouth shut the bees nest is already pissed but i guess that was part of the master plan. ;)

Keep walking it back....:thumbsup:

[Bronx33]

Keep walking it back....:thumbsup:


huh? please ellaborate.

[Smiling Assassin27]

I find it funny that Carter has spent his post-presidential life railing on Israel and palling around with the likes of Hamas, who spews out anti-Semitic rants on a regular basis. By Carter's standard, if an overhwelming portion of animosity directed at Obama is racist, then the overhwleming portion of animosity toward Israel is anti-Semitic.

[BroncoInferno]

Iam talking about right now this moment in time iam pointing out the adminisration attempt to lash out with baseless racism accusations.

What do you think it means when people say "I want my country back"? What else could be at the heart of it other than racism? People did not say "I want my country back" when Clinton tried to push through healthcare reform; no one yelled "Liar!" to Clinton at a joint session; so this clearly goes beyond typical partisan arguments.

[Bronx33]

What do you think it means when people say "I want my country back"? What else could be at the heart of it other than racism? People did not say "I want my country back" when Clinton tried to push through healthcare reform; no one yelled "Liar!" to Clinton at a joint session; so this clearly goes beyond typical partisan arguments.


Iam addressing carters accusations to the people questioning obamas policy i don't care what happened to bush or clinton.

[Bronx33]

After being called a racist for disagreeing with Obama on policies, these same people are going to ask you to vote for them or their candidates in 2010 and 2012

[frerottenextelway]

God bless Carter, he really is a national treasure, although he is just stating the obvious. Kenyan is the new n!gger.

[frerottenextelway]

After being called a racist for disagreeing with Obama on policies, these same people are going to ask you to vote for them or their candidates in 2010 and 2012

I don't think Obama or other Democrats have much chance of capturing the votes of people who are threatening assassination of him and such.

[frerottenextelway]

Iam addressing carters accusations to the people questioning obamas policy i don't care what happened to bush or clinton.

You lie.

[Smiling Assassin27]

You lie.

CENSURE!

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YV5NZKhlX-HavM:http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/files/2009/08/pelosi.jpg

[Bronx33]

I don't think Obama or other Democrats have much chance of capturing the votes of people who are threatening assassination of him and such.

sarcasm?

[frerottenextelway]

sarcasm?

No, I'm just speculating here, but I really think the peeps that want him dead aren't going to vote for him.

[BroncoInferno]

Iam addressing carters accusations to the people questioning obamas policy i don't care what happened to bush or clinton.

People who talk about "death panels" and other BS are not making reasoned critiques of policy proposals. Folks like you trying to sell this as reasoned debate coming from the right either have your head in the sand or are outright lying. Obama was getting excoriated before he even entered office. And, no, this is not the same as what happened to Bush. Bush was not roundly attacked until he invaded the wrong country based on lies. In other words, based on his actions. Obama has only made recommendations on healthcare and has the peanut gallery calling him a Commie and liar.

[Smiling Assassin27]

People who talk about "death panels" and other BS are not making reasoned critiques of policy proposals. Folks like you trying to sell this as reasoned debate coming from the right either have your head in the sand or are outright lying. Obama was getting excoriated before he even entered office. And, no, this is not the same as what happened to Bush. Bush was not roundly attacked until he invaded the wrong country based on lies. In other words, based on his actions. Obama has only made recommendations on healthcare and has the peanut gallery calling him a Commie and liar.

The inability to see the lies of this man really is an illness. Do you really want to examine his presidential reign thus far to see if he's lied or not? And what if he is exposed as a habitual liar? You'd still stand by the man because you've made your bed and now must sleep in it, lest you have to admit you got this one wrong.

[Smiling Assassin27]

BTW, the White House threw Carter under the bus...The follow up question was genius: Don't you think THIS is a teaching moment for the President like the Cambridge police flap was? Answer: Uh, no.

White House: Obama Disagrees With Carter on Race
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White House press secretary Robert Gibbs reiterated at his press briefing this afternoon that President Obama disagrees with former President Carter's assertion that Joe Wilson's "you lie" outburst and other animosity directed at the president is grounded in racism.

"The president does not believe that -- that the criticism comes based on the color of his skin," Gibbs said. "We understand that people have disagreements with some of the decisions that we've made and some of the extraordinary actions that had to be undertaken by this administration and previous administrations to stabilize our financial system, to ensure viability of our domestic auto industry."

"I don't -- I don't think that, you know, the president does not believe that it's based on the color of his skin," he continued.

Gibbs later added that the president "does not believe that the majority of this" is grounded in racism.

Gibbs was asked by reporters why this is not a "teachable moment" on race similar to the one that Mr. Obama identified following the Cambridge police flap.

"Obviously, the president has, and has always had, great concerns about race relations in this country," he replied. "He's talked about them in speeches. He's talked about them throughout his career in politics; believes we've made great strides, and obviously we've got work to do. But I -- I don't -- I'm not sure I see this -- this large national conversation going on right now."

Carter said Tuesday that "there is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president," arguing that Wilson's outburst was "based on racism."

Alan Wilson, Joe Wilson's son, countered that "there is not a racist bone in my dad's body."

The South Carolina Republican's outburst came after Mr. Obama said that under his health care plan illegal immigrants would not be eligible for health insurance subsidies.

[BroncoInferno]

The inability to see the lies of this man really is an illness. Do you really want to examine his presidential reign thus far to see if he's lied or not? And what if he is exposed as a habitual liar? You'd still stand by the man because you've made your bed and now must sleep in it, lest you have to admit you got this one wrong.

The liars are the silly death-panel-we-want-our-country-back folk. In other words, folks like you.

[frerottenextelway]

Just a small sample, this set of pics could be a couple hundred deep.

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[Smiling Assassin27]

The liars are the silly death-panel-we-want-our-country-back folk. In other words, folks like you.

Yeah, I figured you'd walk that one back. This statement tells me that you KNOW he's a liar but just can't be honest enough with yourself to admit that you had no idea who this guy was when you voted for him and now have egg on your face because he's a scumbag.

[Bronx33]

People who talk about "death panels" and other BS are not making reasoned critiques of policy proposals. Folks like you trying to sell this as reasoned debate coming from the right either have your head in the sand or are outright lying. Obama was getting excoriated before he even entered office. And, no, this is not the same as what happened to Bush. Bush was not roundly attacked until he invaded the wrong country based on lies. In other words, based on his actions. Obama has only made recommendations on healthcare and has the peanut gallery calling him a Commie and liar.




Again this thread was about jimmy carter and his racist acusations where are you even attempting to go with this statement?

Again carters quote:

"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.

Hes calling people whom don't agree with obama policies (racists) and i say it's preposterous and the only way he could remotely know this is if he was a mindreader does he have any evidence or anything to back this wild comment how is this topic not a reasoned debate?

[broncofan7]

Iam speechless after hearing carter talk:

I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man

If this isn't a black eye for dem supporters cause i don't know what is does jimmy have one shread of evidence what is his logic behind this? what a off the wall bold faced last resort attempt to swoon the useful idiots and keep their attention the only way he could determine if they were racists would to be a mind reader. It that really what is come down too? calling people racists? because they disagree with the presidents policy.

He also brought up a sign that read Obama care needs to be buried with ted kennedy and said it read Obama needs to be buried with ted kennedy.just retire carter you have lost it and so has your party.

(yes i agree the sign was a little over the top so lets not go there ok)

Ya we need the opinion of a failed one term peanut farmer/president and to lie on top of that is mind boggling and pathetic.

He needs his Aricept dose increased.....he obviously thinks this is 1979 and not 2009 and that his opinion still carries any weight.......

[Smiling Assassin27]

Just a small sample, this set of pics could be a couple hundred deep.

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http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp1.jpg


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp3.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3912656655_c60e04f291.jpg

I see, so these are out of line but the ones portraying Bush as a monkey and Rummy as a Nazi are just fine. My position is that BOTH sets of pics are out of line, how about you?

[broncofan7]

Just a small sample, this set of pics could be a couple hundred deep.

http://5.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpvt66dtT41qa3xbjo1_500.png

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp1.jpg


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp3.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3912656655_c60e04f291.jpg

That zoo poster is RIDICULOUS and incredibly offensive--please note the PERSON's AGE....those of us 35 and below--we view things a lot differently.......and even at that--she is but one of a FEW......that was not part of a CHANT was it?

[Bronx33]

Just a small sample, this set of pics could be a couple hundred deep.

http://5.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpvt66dtT41qa3xbjo1_500.png

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp1.jpg


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp3.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3912656655_c60e04f291.jpg

what is racist there?

and remember this:
http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2009/09/bush_hitler.jpg

http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2009/09/185.jpg

[BroncoInferno]

Yeah, I figured you'd walk that one back. This statement tells me that you KNOW he's a liar but just can't be honest enough with yourself to admit that you had no idea who this guy was when you voted for him and now have egg on your face because he's a scumbag.

We've never had a president yet that didn't lie and fudge things to suit their arguments. Not one. Sometimes its intentional, sometimes not. Anyone expecting any different from a President is naive. You voted for a liar in Bush twice, so don't try selling us that bag of magic beans. I am not completely happy with Obama so far. Contrary to your ridiculous claims, Obama has been bending over backwards tyrying to get bi-partisan support for this bill, and the result is that he has already thrown in the towel on the solution to the problem--single payer. That's dead. You guys won that issue. Celebrate. Whatever ends up passing will be a half-assed measure and won't do jack**** to lower costs or bring about true reform. But that is what you guys wanted all along. Hence, all the vitriol and lies the right has been spreading from the beginning of the healthcare debate. Hell, it started before Obama even took the oath.

[Bronx33]

We've never had a president yet that didn't lie and fudge things to suit their arguments. Not one. Sometimes its intentional, sometimes not. Anyone expecting any different from a President is naive. You voted for a liar in Bush twice, so don't try selling us that bag of magic beans. I am not completely happy with Obama so far. Contrary to your ridiculous claims, Obama has been bending over backwards tyrying to get bi-partisan support for this bill, and the result is that he has already thrown in the towel on the solution to the problem--single payer. That's dead. You guys won that issue. Celebrate. Whatever ends up passing will be a half-assed measure and won't do jack**** to lower costs or bring about true reform. But that is what you guys wanted all along. Hence, all the vitriol and lies the right has been spreading from the beginning of the healthcare debate. Hell, it started before Obama even took the oath.


Laughable...

[BroncoInferno]

Laughable...

It's a fact. Otherwise, he would not have given up on the single payer option. He did that as a concession to appease the right. You can call "laughable" all you want, but the only thing laughable are the idiotic arguments and accusations coming from the right.

[frerottenextelway]

I see, so these are out of line but the ones portraying Bush as a monkey and Rummy as a Nazi are just fine. My position is that BOTH sets of pics are out of line, how about you?

When I was 5 years old I couldn't get away with a ''they did it too argument''.

Carter's right - clearly. And you're attempting to justify the racism. Shame on you.

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[Bronx33]

It's a fact. Otherwise, he would not have given up on the single payer option. He did that as a concession to appease the right. You can call "laughable" all you want, but the only thing laughable are the idiotic arguments and accusations coming from the right.


Ok i will just ask you straight up:

Do you think carter statement was apropriate?

[frerottenextelway]

Do you think carter statement was apropriate?

Not him but... Yes, of course. It's appropriate, accurate, and necessary.

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[watermock]

Don't we need more troops on the Khyber pass?

Or is it the CIA's control of the poppy fields?

Let's get our priorties straight!

[Bronx33]

It's a fact. Otherwise, he would not have given up on the single payer option. He did that as a concession to appease the right. You can call "laughable" all you want, but the only thing laughable are the idiotic arguments and accusations coming from the right.



Mr. DINGELL (for himself, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. STARK, Mr. PALLONE, and Mr. ANDREWS)



It states this in the start of HR3200 Find one republican for me will ya..

[Bronx33]

Not him but... Yes, of course. It's appropriate, accurate, and necessary.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/3913491978_c2acf44052.jpg

You don't even know what racism is obviously.

[frerottenextelway]

You don't even know what racism is obviously.

I know that person is one, along with these people.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3913486566_28d25fcc42.jpg

[mhgaffney]

The left is just used to being told what to think.

I hate to admit it -- but you are correct.

But no less than the right.

Face it -- the nation has been dumbed down beyond caring.

[Garcia Bronco]

Carter, bless his heart, is too old. These boomers live by conditions that are not always true anymore.

[Garcia Bronco]

I hate to admit it -- but you are correct.

But no less than the right.

Face it -- the nation has been dumbed down beyond caring.

People care....you are projecting your own apathy.

[Garcia Bronco]

Just a small sample, this set of pics could be a couple hundred deep.

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http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/signcomp1.jpg


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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3912656655_c60e04f291.jpg

These people are just as dumb as the people that slammed Bush when he was in office.

[BroncoInferno]

Ok i will just ask you straight up:

Do you think carter statement was apropriate?

I believe it was laregly accurate, yes. Nothing explains the unabashed hatred directed towards Obama even before he entered office. It goes way beyond your garden variety partisan politics. When people say "I want my country back", only a fool doesn't know what that means, and it doesn't have jack**** to do with socialism.

[BroncoInferno]

These people are just as dumb as the people that slammed Bush when he was in office.

Except the attacks on Bush were based on actual ****-ups (i.e. attacking the wrong country, allowing the destruction of a major American city, etc etc). The attacks on Obama are flat out made up (i.e. he is not a citizen, "death panels", etc).

[ant1999e]

I hate to admit it -- but you are correct.

But no less than the right.

Face it -- the nation has been dumbed down beyond caring.

I think Gaff is 100% correct. We have all been programmed to despise the other side and accept and defend anything our side says and does. Some were defending child sex slaves for god sake. I think we all need to take a step back and start choosing country over party.

[Garcia Bronco]

Except the attacks on Bush were based on actual ****-ups (i.e. attacking the wrong country, allowing the destruction of a major American city, etc etc). The attacks on Obama are flat out made up (i.e. he is not a citizen, "death panels", etc).

Not really. The media and people out there did the exact things with phoney outrage. This **** hasn't changed with Obama either. "Death panels" as they are called will exist under a single payer system. It's just a reality. He may not be a citizen. He's yet to produce a birth certificate...which he probably doesn't have regardless of the truth. To date he's spent well over a million fighting the court cases. While I hope he is a citizen, it remains to be seen on wheather it's true or not. If he isnt a citizen it could hurt our Republic.

[Rohirrim]

I think Gaff is 100% correct. We have all been programmed to despise the other side and accept and defend anything our side says and does. Some were defending child sex slaves for god sake. I think we all need to take a step back and start choosing country over party.

Who was defending child sex slaves? Where? Link. Or is this just more of your running off at the mouth bs? Provide the proof or STFU, ahole.

[ant1999e]

Who was defending child sex slaves? Where? Link. Or is this just more of your running off at the mouth bs? Provide the proof or STFU, ahole.

I will restate my post. Some were defending an organization that was willing to assist a child sex slavery and giving out tax evasion advise to pimps. You know what the hell I'm talking about you ****head.:loser:_i_O_i_

You missed the main point of my post. ****in idiot.

[broncofan7]

Not really. The media and people out there did the exact things with phoney outrage. This **** hasn't changed with Obama either. "Death panels" as they are called will exist under a single payer system. It's just a reality. He may not be a citizen. He's yet to produce a birth certificate...which he probably doesn't have regardless of the truth. To date he's spent well over a million fighting the court cases. While I hope he is a citizen, it remains to be seen on wheather it's true or not. If he isnt a citizen it could hurt our Republic.

I thought that he produced a 'certificate of live birth' which is the same thing as a birth certificate? It is strange however that this case was able to go forward and has cost him so much in legal defense--I mean if someone asks me to produce proof of citizenship--I simply show my birth certificate and I always assumed that would be that..............

[Rohirrim]

I will restate my post. Some were defending an organization that was willing to assist a child sex slavery and giving out tax evasion advise to pimps. You know what the hell I'm talking about you ****head.:loser:_i_O_i_

You missed the main point of my post. ****in idiot.

I didn't miss the main point. And I also didn't edit out 90% of your post to make it say something else, dishonest POS.

[BroncoInferno]

Not really. The media and people out there did the exact things with phoney outrage. This **** hasn't changed with Obama either. "Death panels" as they are called will exist under a single payer system. It's just a reality. He may not be a citizen. He's yet to produce a birth certificate...which he probably doesn't have regardless of the truth. To date he's spent well over a million fighting the court cases. While I hope he is a citizen, it remains to be seen on wheather it's true or not. If he isnt a citizen it could hurt our Republic.

Hospital records and a birth announcement have all been provided. He does not have his original birth certificate, but that is highly common. I don't have my original, for instance. And, no, death panels are BS. That's what we have now under the current system.
Bush's ****-ups were demonstrable.

[ant1999e]

I didn't miss the main point. And I also didn't edit out 90% of your post to make it say something else, dishonest POS.

I chose to cut 90% of the half page you posted because I was only commenting on the section I left in. And I didn't make it say something else you lying ****. In post 127 I responded to the rest of your babbling.

[Rohirrim]

I chose to cut 90% of the half page you posted because I was only commenting on the section I left in. And I didn't make it say something else you lying ****. In post 127 I responded to the rest of your babbling.

Babbling? What I said about those condoning child sex is that they should be prosecuted and locked up and that the organization whose views you support, Fox News, was making a joke out of it. In post 127 you defended them making a joke out of it. Child sex is not a joke under any conditions, but I can see why the Right would want to joke about it. After all, so many of their reps have been arrested for doing it. I would still like to know what Rush Limbaugh was doing in Dominica, the child sex capital of the Caribbean, with rubbers and Viagra in his possession. If you can't back up your ****ing accusations, don't make them.

[ant1999e]

Babbling? What I said about those condoning child sex is that they should be prosecuted and locked up and that the organization whose views you support, Fox News, was making a joke out of it. In post 127 you defended them making a joke out of it. Child sex is not a joke under any conditions, but I can see why the Right would want to joke about it. After all, so many of their reps have been arrested for doing it. I would still like to know what Rush Limbaugh was doing in Dominica, the child sex capital of the Caribbean, with rubbers and Viagra in his possession. If you can't back up your ****ing accusations, don't make them.

WTF are you b****ing about? I didn't acuse you of ****. The first comment you made was "Why do people on the Right overreact to everything?" That's what I replied to. In the rest of your post, you were deflecting the topic of the post by b****ing about a political comedy show on fox news. Like I said in many of my past posts there are POS's on both sides. Rush is a POS.

To get back on topic, Carter is an idiot.

[hookemhess]

:mullet1:

[Garcia Bronco]

Hospital records and a birth announcement have all been provided. He does not have his original birth certificate, but that is highly common. I don't have my original, for instance. And, no, death panels are BS. That's what we have now under the current system.
Bush's ****-ups were demonstrable.

I have my orignal and so does everyone in my family


You don't get it. Once the Governemnt is paying for your healthcare they will decide what and when you get it. When you have a problem with your insurance who do you appeal to? The courts. You won't be able to appeal to Gvoernemnt when the Government is the other end of the contract. It's madness. So no "death panels" are a reality. They are in every country that has Gvoernemnt run health care. Even Obama says that 80 percent of what we spend now goes to the elderly. They will tell you to roll over and die and they won't care.

Bush did **** up, but were talking about making a mountain out of a mole hill of insignificant ****. People on this forum, and you were one of them, claimed he was going to suspend the 08 elections and declare himself king.

[Garcia Bronco]

I thought that he produced a 'certificate of live birth' which is the same thing as a birth certificate? It is strange however that this case was able to go forward and has cost him so much in legal defense--I mean if someone asks me to produce proof of citizenship--I simply show my birth certificate and I always assumed that would be that..............

Hawaii produced a brand new document ad put a fresh seal on it. Further more Obama is a Kenyan Citizen and the PResident cannot hold dual citizenship.

[Odysseus]

Iam talking about right now this moment in time iam pointing out the adminisration attempt to lash out with baseless racism accusations.

I think it's sad that anyone should have to take so much time to discuss the obvious, retarded and stupid.

There is a poison in this country and nothing short of a miracle is going to get things on the right track. I guess there is no mature way to be self indulgent so some of the threads and posts I am seeing should not surprise me. I am pretty disappointed at what I am learning about my friends and neighbors. The price of free speech is apparently putting up with a whole world of silly ****.

[BroncoInferno]

I have my orignal and so does everyone in my family


You don't get it. Once the Governemnt is paying for your healthcare they will decide what and when you get it. When you have a problem with your insurance who do you appeal to? The courts. You won't be able to appeal to Gvoernemnt when the Government is the other end of the contract. It's madness. So no "death panels" are a reality. They are in every country that has Gvoernemnt run health care. Even Obama says that 80 percent of what we spend now goes to the elderly. They will tell you to roll over and die and they won't care.

I would rather a panel with no profit motive make those types of decisions than one that has shareholders to deal with. Seems pretty simple to me.

People on this forum, and you were one of them, claimed he was going to suspend the 08 elections and declare himself king.

I never believe nor said that. Find the quote or retract the statement.

[Rohirrim]

I think it's sad that anyone should have to take so much time to discuss the obvious, retarded and stupid.

There is a poison in this country and nothing short of a miracle is going to get things on the right track. I guess there is no mature way to be self indulgent so some of the threads and posts I am seeing should not surprise me. I am pretty disappointed at what I am learning about my friends and neighbors. The price of free speech is apparently putting up with a whole world of silly ****.

I'm really beginning to wonder if we are not destined for another civil war.

[rastaman]

These people are just as dumb as the people that slammed Bush when he was in office.

As the people who slammed Clinton when he was in office.

Ummmmmmmmm.......imagine all the civility and respect for the office citizens of this country showed to Reagan and Bush I, although it wasn't neccessarily owed given the corruptness and greed of the Reagan Administration. Yet Americans both Dem. and Repub. did not stoop to the levels of behavior we all saw how Repub. conserv. treated the Clintons and how Repub. are presently treating Obama.

Republicans hunted, smeared attacked, and propagandized the Clinton's for 8 looooong years. And Repub. will do the same to Obama for 8 loooong years. Of course, Bush was treated the same way by Democrats as Repub. treated Hillary and Bill. Get the picture!

Saraha Payland was treated the same way Hillary was treated. And the next Repub. Presid. will be treated by Dems the same way Repub. are currently treating Obama.

[rastaman]

Not really. The media and people out there did the exact things with phoney outrage. This **** hasn't changed with Obama either. "Death panels" as they are called will exist under a single payer system. It's just a reality. He may not be a citizen. He's yet to produce a birth certificate...which he probably doesn't have regardless of the truth. To date he's spent well over a million fighting the court cases. While I hope he is a citizen, it remains to be seen on wheather it's true or not. If he isnt a citizen it could hurt our Republic.

The only thing hurting the Republic right now are the behaviors of these crazy right fringe conservatives. Hell Bush never proved he served honorably in the Texas Air Guard and he never proved he was never convicted of several DWI or DUI's. See my point.

Yet suddenly the conservative voting Repub. pretend they care about a persons authenticity. Its pure hypocricy. Bush has yet to prove how much new prior to the attacks on 9-11.

Can you imagine had Obama been President on 9-11 how Repub. Conserv. would be calling for his

We didn't care we were rallying behind a President selected by the Supreme Court at the time. All we citizens new was we were attacked and its tme to come together.

Now imagine just for one momemt given the current environment and behavior from Repub. Conservatives....if America is attacked AGAIN----would right wing extremist Repub. conservatives rally behind the President or would they use the event for IDEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL GAIN!

[rastaman]

I'm really beginning to wonder if we are not destined for another civil war.

There's no way we will have another civil war along the magnitude of the first civil war. Will some crazy conservative right wing militia terrorist element try some shiat....yes of course they will (its in their DNA). But then again, the U.S. is ready for them....why do you think we kept GITMO open!:approve:

[Garcia Bronco]

I would rather a panel with no profit motive make those types of decisions than one that has shareholders to deal with. Seems pretty simple to me.



I never believe nor said that. Find the quote or retract the statement.

The Government has no "profit motive"??!?! LMAO

[Garcia Bronco]

As the people who slammed Clinton when he was in office.



Exactly.

[Odysseus]

I'm really beginning to wonder if we are not destined for another civil war.

Nobody seems to realize it's the same civil war. It comes down to states rights versus federal responsibility. Nobody in this debate is being honest and the bull**** is what is going to cost us. Something bad is coming our way and there is nothing stopping that.

[BroncoInferno]

The Government has no "profit motive"??!?! LMAO

Pretty much all gov't run social programs are run at a loss. Individual politicians no doubt like to line their pockets but the programs themselves are clearly not run for profit.

[Garcia Bronco]

Pretty much all gov't run social programs are run at a loss. Individual politicians no doubt like to line their pockets but the programs themselves are clearly not run for profit.

Define profit. Because power is a type of profit and if we give the Government control over our health care they will have more power over our lives. You know it. We need health care reform. It doesn't require insertion of the government other than an enforcer of the contract.

[BroncoInferno]

Define profit. Because power is a type of profit and if we give the Government control over our health care they will have more power over our lives. You know it. We need health care reform. It doesn't require insertion of the government other than an enforcer of the contract.

An entity has power and control over our lives now with regards to healthcare: corporations. I don't get what's so hard to understand about that fact. When it comes to a necessary service like health care, I would rather the government have control over it than an entity whose primary objective is to make money. It is clear to anyone with any sense that it is far more likely that a corporate "death panel" (which exist already, by the way) would deny someone coverage due to the profit motive (there are countless examples of this actually happening) than would the government, which will likely run health care at a loss (like all other gov't services).

[Bronx33]

I believe it was laregly accurate, yes. Nothing explains the unabashed hatred directed towards Obama even before he entered office. It goes way beyond your garden variety partisan politics. When people say "I want my country back", only a fool doesn't know what that means, and it doesn't have jack**** to do with socialism.


What proof do you have? cause i disagree with obamas policy does that make me a racist? and i think your lumping a very small number of people with questionable signs all together with the rest that don't agree with obama.

Do you think thats a solid interpretation of your stance? you have zero evidence to support your claim just like carter.

[Rohirrim]

I think there is also another element at work here: Change. There is a certain segment of the population that is terrified by change. I mean literally, terrified. To some people, the cultural and political changes that are taking place in this world have made them feel as if their entire cosmos is built on sand, like they have nothing to hold on to. They freak out.

[Bronx33]

I think there is also another element at work here: Change. There is a certain segment of the population that is terrified by change. I mean literally, terrified. To some people, the cultural and political changes that are taking place in this world have made them feel as if their entire cosmos is built on sand, like they have nothing to hold on to. They freak out.

I would agree that a small number of people feel that way but i will add that a huge amount of people are getting off their asses finally and getting educated on politics and issues that effect them and we can thank mr obama for that it was needed big time but i don't think mr obama is very happy he woke up the masses cause he was hoping to slide a bunch of crap through legislation before they woke up.

[Rohirrim]

I would agree that a small number of people feel that way but i will add that a huge amount of people are getting off their asses finally and getting educated on politics and issues that effect them and we can thank mr obama for that it was needed big time but i don't think mr obama is very happy he woke up the masses cause he was hoping to slide a bunch of crap through legislation before they woke up.

Naw. That's just Fox rap. ;D

[rastaman]

Exactly.

Yep! Where's the civility????8')

[rastaman]

I would agree that a small number of people feel that way but i will add that a huge amount of people are getting off their asses finally and getting educated on politics and issues that effect them and we can thank mr obama for that it was needed big time but i don't think mr obama is very happy he woke up the masses cause he was hoping to slide a bunch of crap through legislation before they woke up.

Its President Obama!!!

[rastaman]

Define profit. Because power is a type of profit and if we give the Government control over our health care they will have more power over our lives. You know it. We need health care reform. It doesn't require insertion of the government other than an enforcer of the contract.

Gar....right now Corporations have the power and control over our health care. People have actually died while waiting for approval for medicines and operations to be approved by their For Profit Health insurers to approve or deny life saving medicines or operations. For Profit private Corporate Health insurers make their obscene profits by denying as much coverage, services etc. Its these bastards who have control over our lives. Health insurers do not honor their contract b/c if they did so, they wouldn't be able earn billions of dollars by denying care.

[Bronx33]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/12_say_most_opponents_of_obama_health_care_plan_ar e_racist

Twelve percent (12%) of voters nationwide believe that most opponents of President Obama’s health care reform plan are racist. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 67% of voters disagree, and 21% are not sure.


In recent days, several Democrats have suggested that racism is a factor. The most prominent to make that accusation is former President Jimmy Carter.


Eighty-eight percent (88%) of Republicans reject the notion that most of the opponents are racist. So do 78% of voters not affiliated with either major party. However, just 39% of Democrats share that view. Twenty-two percent (22%) of those in the president’s party say that most of the opposition to his plan comes from racists, and another 39% are not sure.


The president’s health care proposal has encountered stronger opposition than anticipated by the White House. For most of the summer, a majority of the nation’s voters opposed the plan. Following the president’s nationally televised speech last week, support for the plan increased temporarily. However, support is now back to pre-speech levels.


(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.


During that speech, Republican Congressman Joe Wilson shouted “You Lie” after the president asserted that illegal immigrants would not be covered under his health care plan. Wilson subsequently apologized to Obama. But the South Carolina congressman was formally rebuked by the House on a generally party-line vote yesterday, although Democratic leaders downplayed charges by some that his outburst was racially motivated.


However, Wilson’s comment helped focus part of the discussion on taxpayer-subsidized health care coverage for illegal immigrants rather than other aspects of the presidnet's plan. That forced the White House to issue a clarification of its position and added a further complication for advocates of the plan. Eighty-three percent (83%) of voters nationwide say that people should be required to prove they are citizens before receiving government health care benefits.


Only one percent (1%) of those opposed to the health care plan believe that most of the opposition comes from racists.


Among Obama’s strongest supporters, those who Strongly Approve of his job performance, 35% say most opponents are racists, 32% disagree and 33% are not sure.


Among African-American voters, 27% say most opponents are racist, 25% disagree, and 48% are not sure.


Fifty percent (50%) of white Democrats reject the charge of racism, but 15% say it’s true.

[Bronx33]

Telling the truth pays Ha! go figure.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/60335-a-star-is-born-wilson-raises-big-bucks

Weeks after a public outburst made him a national name, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is becoming a hot commodity on the fundraising circuit, pulling in big bucks for fellow Republicans around the country.

During President Obama's Sept. 9 address to a joint session of Congress, Wilson shouted "You lie!" when Obama said healthcare legislation would not cover illegal immigrants. He was later reprimanded in a largely party-line vote.



But instead of making him a pariah, the episode made Wilson a star. His campaign committee has raised about $2 million, nearly twice what he raised and spent during the 2008 election, and suddenly, Republicans around the country are clamoring for his time.

[Rohirrim]

Telling the truth pays Ha! go figure.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/60335-a-star-is-born-wilson-raises-big-bucks

Weeks after a public outburst made him a national name, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is becoming a hot commodity on the fundraising circuit, pulling in big bucks for fellow Republicans around the country.

During President Obama's Sept. 9 address to a joint session of Congress, Wilson shouted "You lie!" when Obama said healthcare legislation would not cover illegal immigrants. He was later reprimanded in a largely party-line vote.



But instead of making him a pariah, the episode made Wilson a star. His campaign committee has raised about $2 million, nearly twice what he raised and spent during the 2008 election, and suddenly, Republicans around the country are clamoring for his time.

Good. The more Republicans associate publicly with Joe Wilson the even more crackpot the party looks and the even fewer elections they win.

He didn't just insult the president. He insulted the institutions of the United Stated of America. Sad to see so many Americans cheer for that.

[Bronx33]

Good. The more Republicans associate publicly with Joe Wilson the even more crackpot the party looks and the even fewer elections they win.

He didn't just insult the president. He insulted the institutions of the United Stated of America. Sad to see so many Americans cheer for that.


And the president insulted the american people by lying to them yet again, though i don't support his comment during the speech he could have waited until he talked to him in private but if you ask me it's a wash in my book and that soapbox has been overused imo people simply like the truth.

[Bronco Yoda]

It all comes down to a complete lack of empathy from so many.

Also fear... fear of change, fear of the unknown... you name it.

Selfishness.... I got mine, who cares about my brother, neighbor, friend let alone complete stranger.

Stupidity....

.... leading back to to the complete breakdown of any kind of empathy.

[Garcia Bronco]

An entity has power and control over our lives now with regards to healthcare: corporations..

The Government wants to make money. And Corporations don't control my healthcare. All we need to do to reform healthcare for the individual is regulate what can and cannot go in the contract. We don't need a government take over to accomplish this.

[Garcia Bronco]

Pretty much all gov't run social programs are run at a loss.

Thank you.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Thank you.

This is disappointing news. Obama told me that owning GM and Chrysler, along with bailing out Fannie and Freddie, along with saving AIG, would make a profit for the American people.

[Odysseus]

This is disappointing news. Obama told me that owning GM and Chrysler, along with bailing out Fannie and Freddie, along with saving AIG, would make a profit for the American people.

I invested in AIG in March. Take a look at the stock. I have a friend who invested in Fannie. Take a look a the stock. A friend of mine picked up a Chevy Trailblazer this year because of a terrible car accident. She never could have afforded it. That $8000 made a difference. Um. Dude. What are you talking about?

[Smiling Assassin27]

I invested in AIG in March. Take a look at the stock. I have a friend who invested in Fannie. Take a look a the stock. A friend of mine picked up a Chevy Trailblazer this year because of a terrible car accident. She never could have afforded it. That $8000 made a difference. Um. Dude. What are you talking about?


First of all, how about a reality check. You may have dollars to sink into stocks, but many do not. This is not what Obama was talking about when he said the taxpayers would actually make a profit from TARP and the Recovery Act.

He was saying taht as banks repay TARP money, taxpayers will see a profit. In fact, Geithner's already claimed $6 billion in profits from payback but is only doing what this Adminstration always does--speaks in vague, inconsistent, half-truths that give the impression that policies have created success, while reality bites them in the arse. Are those monies collected thus far 'profits'? Since we haven't seen a full accounting of TARP, including a full disclosure of the program's costs, the money that's being paid back is nothing more than income, not profit. Things like interest expense and overhead (a HUGE part of any government program, sadly) haven't been disclosed, so I guess we're just supposed to buy what they're selling sight unseen. Couple this with the fact that banks got $150 billion more in aid than taxpayers received in securities, and profits are a pipe dream at this point.

This ain't rocket science, it's just applying simple concepts of business to a government run business venture.

Anyway, I figured y'all would like to hear Carter backtrack and basically lie to us about what he said regarding racism, obama, and critics.

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refer to his first remark and see if you can find 'fringe' or 'personal vituperative attack' are in this one:

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let the justification begin. :rofl:

[Bronx33]

Those are not the remarks you were looking for.....
http://www.members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/star_wars/pics/obi-wan_kenobi.jpg

It simply pisses me off that this clown pretends like he never said it ( IT'S RIGHT THERE YOU OLD COOT!) everybody heard it.

[Odysseus]

First of all, how about a reality check. You may have dollars to sink into stocks, but many do not. This is not what Obama was talking about when he said the taxpayers would actually make a profit from TARP and the Recovery Act.

He was saying taht as banks repay TARP money, taxpayers will see a profit. In fact, Geithner's already claimed $6 billion in profits from payback but is only doing what this Adminstration always does--speaks in vague, inconsistent, half-truths that give the impression that policies have created success, while reality bites them in the arse. Are those monies collected thus far 'profits'? Since we haven't seen a full accounting of TARP, including a full disclosure of the program's costs, the money that's being paid back is nothing more than income, not profit. Things like interest expense and overhead (a HUGE part of any government program, sadly) haven't been disclosed, so I guess we're just supposed to buy what they're selling sight unseen. Couple this with the fact that banks got $150 billion more in aid than taxpayers received in securities, and profits are a pipe dream at this point.

This ain't rocket science, it's just applying simple concepts of business to a government run business venture.

Anyway, I figured y'all would like to hear Carter backtrack and basically lie to us about what he said regarding racism, obama, and critics.

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refer to his first remark and see if you can find 'fringe' or 'personal vituperative attack' are in this one:

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let the justification begin. :rofl:

I am learning a lot of disappointing truths about my fellow Americans. The ugly American is still real and no matter what you paint it with the taint is the same. It's like talking to a person who is blind, deaf, and dumb. They are capable of great things but the odds of that happening are miserable.

I don't have the patience to raise other people's kids. You don't want to get what I am talking about so nothing I am going to say will matter. You focus is being right and making sure that all your buddies agree with you. Good for you. Everybody has to have a point of view.

I don't think Carter has to apologize for anything. He said what he meant and that should be the end of it. We have people Glenn Beck using Vick's to cry on cue but that apparently is understandable because of something Carter said. Got it. I **** in an alley so you get to **** on my front lawn. Got it.

Yesterday I was drinking Chai with some elders in a mud hut at 9000 feet 10 k from three major Taliban encampments. You want to talk to me about not having an opportunity. If I kick cyber stomp your balls I would but there probably isn't anything there. The fact you have a car, Internet, a job and American citizenship automatically gives you opportunities that 80% of the planet will never see. We should talk about those but I guess that does not matter because you are more interested in being right than understanding anything that I am talking about.

Maybe I should talk about the money some of the Bush people made. Oh wait. That is in the past. Maybe I should talk about how the Republicans are stone walling change because of the billions they have invested in their own systems. Wait. That would be off topic. I guess the only point is sniffing the crap you made in my front lawn and marveling at it's texture and beauty.

Carter has a right to his opinions. Apparently you don't get the context and the whole cut and paste thing is more important. Got it. Right on Dude man.

[Bronx33]

I am learning a lot of disappointing truths about my fellow Americans. The ugly American is still real and no matter what you paint it with the taint is the same. It's like talking to a person who is blind, deaf, and dumb. They are capable of great things but the odds of that happening are miserable.

I don't have the patience to raise other people's kids. You don't want to get what I am talking about so nothing I am going to say will matter. You focus is being right and making sure that all your buddies agree with you. Good for you. Everybody has to have a point of view.

I don't think Carter has to apologize for anything. He said what he meant and that should be the end of it. We have people Glenn Beck using Vick's to cry on cue but that apparently is understandable because of something Carter said. Got it. I **** in an alley so you get to **** on my front lawn. Got it.

Yesterday I was drinking Chai with some elders in a mud hut at 9000 feet 10 k from three major Taliban encampments. You want to talk to me about not having an opportunity. If I kick cyber stomp your balls I would but there probably isn't anything there. The fact you have a car, Internet, a job and American citizenship automatically gives you opportunities that 80% of the planet will never see. We should talk about those but I guess that does not matter because you are more interested in being right than understanding anything that I am talking about.

Maybe I should talk about the money some of the Bush people made. Oh wait. That is in the past. Maybe I should talk about how the Republicans are stone walling change because of the billions they have invested in their own systems. Wait. That would be off topic. I guess the only point is sniffing the crap you made in my front lawn and marveling at it's texture and beauty.

Carter has a right to his opinions. Apparently you don't get the context and the whole cut and paste thing is more important. Got it. Right on Dude man.


Sure he does but he could just man up and recant the (overwhelming majority) comment but sadly that one of the worst presidents in history choose to deny all of it. (Just go away mr carter) you offer nothing to the problems at hand you only help add excuses by unjustly calling people racist when they are not.