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lex
09-11-2009, 11:51 AM
Usually the two you think of most are Auburn and USC, but are they? Which school has produced better RBs at the pro level (I say at the pro level and not NFL because you have guys like Herschel Walker playing for the Generals)?



Florida
Emmitt Smith 18,355
Fred Taylor 11,271
Neal Anderson 6,166
John L. Williams 5,006
Errict Rhett 4,143
Lorenzo Hampton 1,949
46,890

Miami
Edgerrin James 12,121
Ottis Anderson 10,273
Clinton Portis 9,202
Willis McGahee 5,243
Frank Gore 4,441
Cleveland Gary 2,645
43,925
USC
Marcus Allen 12,243
OJ Simpson 11,236
Mike Garrett 5,481
Sam Cunningham 5,453
Charles White 3,075
Ricky Bell 3,063
Lynn Cain 2,309
LenDale White 2,127
Reggie Bush 1,550
46,537
Auburn
Stephen Davis 8,052
James Brooks 7,962
William Andrews 5,986
Rudi Johnson 5,979
Ronnie Brown 3,433
Bo Jackson 2,782
Carnell Williams 2,417
Lionel James 1,062
37,673


Oklahoma State
Barry Sanders 15,269
Thurman Thomas 12,074
27,343
Texas
Earl Campbell 9,407
Ricky Williams 7,771
17,178
Syracuse
Jim Brown 12,312
Larry Csonka 8,081
Floyd Little 6,323
26,716
Georgia
Herschel Walker 8,225
Garrison Hearst 7,966
Terrell Davis 7,607
23,798
Notre Dame
Jerome Bettis 13,662
Ricky Watters 10,643
24,305
Pitt
Curtis Martin 14,101
Tony Dorsett 12,739
Ironhead Heyward 4,301
31,141
Penn State
Franco Harris 12,120
Curt Warner 6,844
Lydell Mitchell 6,534
Larry Johnson 5,638
Blair Thomas 2,236
Curtis Enis 1,497
KiJana Carter 1,144
36,013






Florida 46,890
USC 46,537
Miami 43,925
Auburn 37,673
Penn State 36,013
Pitt 31,141
Oklahoma State 27,343
Syracuse 26,716
Notre Dame 24,305
Georgia 23,798
Texas 17,178

lex
09-11-2009, 11:58 AM
BTW, thats not a comprehensive list of all RBs from the above schools. Its just a list of the more prominent ones that I could think of.

Beantown Bronco
09-11-2009, 12:01 PM
"The U" has clearly dominated if you are talking recent history.

lex
09-11-2009, 12:04 PM
"The U" has clearly dominated if you are talking recent history.

I should have put Priest Holmes on there for Texas but even with him, Im kind of surprised Texas hasnt had more RBs.

Smiling Assassin27
09-11-2009, 12:06 PM
Plymouth State with Holy Cross a close second...

Joe Dudek...Gordie Lockbaum...any of this ringing a bell?

MOCRUSH
09-11-2009, 12:09 PM
UGA, TD 'nuff said.

bombay
09-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Usc

Doggcow
09-11-2009, 12:23 PM
How come Tatum Bell wasn't listed for Oklahoma State? :P

Jason in LA
09-11-2009, 12:29 PM
I wonder what those numbers will look like in 10 years because USC has like 5 RBs who have pro potential right now.

BroncoMan4ever
09-11-2009, 12:39 PM
"The U" has clearly dominated if you are talking recent history.

i don't think so, half of the total yardage of USC came from 2 guys who haven't played in more than 20 years. there are no current elite backs from USC, so i don't consider them to be that great.

Miami has the most backs that are currently in the NFL that have reached elite status in the last few years. Edge, Gore, Portis, and McGahee has been good when not injured.

Miami is the current Tailback U

Beantown Bronco
09-11-2009, 12:45 PM
i don't think so, half of the total yardage of USC came from 2 guys who haven't played in more than 20 years. there are no current elite backs from USC, so i don't consider them to be that great.

Miami has the most backs that are currently in the NFL that have reached elite status in the last few years. Edge, Gore, Portis, and McGahee has been good when not injured.

Miami is the current Tailback U

Read my post again. I said "The U" which = The University of Miami....not USC.

KS Bronco
09-11-2009, 12:58 PM
UGA, TD 'nuff said.

dont forget the next td, moreno!

BroncoMan4ever
09-11-2009, 01:42 PM
Read my post again. I said "The U" which = The University of Miami....not USC.

my bad dude. momentary dyslexia or brain fart on my part. i think i saw the U and just interpreted it as USC like a jackass.

BroncoMan4ever
09-11-2009, 01:49 PM
i am having a hard time buying a lot of these programs as top Tailback producing colleges.
i have always considered a college with the nickname of Linebacker U or Tailback U as a school that continually almost annually churns out another good back, and a lot of these schools listed have either guys who were awesome years ago and no one current, or only have 2 or 3 guys on the list.

Miami, Auburn and USC are the only schools on the list with current decent RBs and Miami is the only school with multiple backs that have at one point in the last decade reached elite status.

Crushaholic
09-11-2009, 02:08 PM
I think Georgia is winning the poll just because of TD. While he was a great one, USC boasts Marcus Allen and OJ Simpson...

Winner - USC...

Gcver2ver3
09-11-2009, 02:12 PM
its clearly USC...

but it was cool seeing that list compiled...

Zoobie
09-11-2009, 02:15 PM
Graig Cooper looks very nice for the U. I think he will be a great change of pace back, return man, and quality receiver out of the backfield. I think with the current run of Miami running backs it's hard to argue that they aren't the running back factory of today. Are they the top producer of all time? No, but currently they are.

Rock Chalk
09-11-2009, 02:22 PM
I hate OU but how come they aren't even on this list?

Not to mention Kansas.

Riggins and Sayers baby!

lex
09-11-2009, 03:18 PM
i am having a hard time buying a lot of these programs as top Tailback producing colleges.
i have always considered a college with the nickname of Linebacker U or Tailback U as a school that continually almost annually churns out another good back, and a lot of these schools listed have either guys who were awesome years ago and no one current, or only have 2 or 3 guys on the list.

Miami, Auburn and USC are the only schools on the list with current decent RBs and Miami is the only school with multiple backs that have at one point in the last decade reached elite status.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2549856&postcount=10

You two need to talk. If Bush and White arent all that, then you really have to go back a long time to find a USC RB.


Having said that, for me its between Florida, Auburn, Miami, and USC. Bo Jackson was probably the best RB Ive seen aside from maybe Barry Sanders even though he didnt have the best career. Im going to have to go with Florida though. Going back to Neal Anderson's time with the Bears, Florida has always had someone decent between Anderson, Smith, and Taylor, with Smith being the all time leading rusher. That and they have the most yards of teams on the list.


I would ranke them:

1. UF
2. Auburn
3. Miami
4. USC

Even though Miami has a lot of good runners, much of them were at Miami at the same time so the notion of consistency is in question.

lex
09-11-2009, 03:21 PM
I hate OU but how come they aren't even on this list?

Not to mention Kansas.

Riggins and Sayers baby!

Billy Sims was awesome but since Billy Sims, who has been a producer in the pros for OU? Marcus Dupree was a great runner but he had an injury and wasnt the same. Beyond that, who? Mike Pruitt?

lex
09-11-2009, 03:27 PM
I think Georgia is winning the poll just because of TD.

Pretty much. You cant really even acknowledge UGa's poll results.

Clockwork Orange
09-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Billy Sims was awesome but since Billy Sims, who has been a producer in the pros for OU? Marcus Dupree was a great runner but he had an injury and wasnt the same. Beyond that, who? Mike Pruitt?

http://www.mokers.org/blog/images/2007/12/nfl/adrian-peterson.jpg

This guy aint half bad.

LonghornBronco
09-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Although not "Prominant" these backs are currently gaining yards or had significant yards in the NFL.
Cedric Benson
Eric Metcalf
Jamaal Charles
Selvin Young

lex
09-11-2009, 09:41 PM
http://www.mokers.org/blog/images/2007/12/nfl/adrian-peterson.jpg

This guy aint half bad.

Yeah, Adrian Peterson is awesome but look at the original post and the data that was compiled. Do you really think AD and Billy Sims stack up against what was posted? Billy Sims and AD, who is in his third year, is what youre lobbying for? Billy Sims has 5,106 career yards. Maybe one day Peterson and Sims might compare with Watters and Bettis but Peterson has a lot of work ahead of him.

SoCalBronco
09-11-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm definitely biased. :)

http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/29/miami_hurricanes_logo.jpg

Jason in LA
09-11-2009, 10:28 PM
Just to add a wrinkle to this. Is the best way to determine this by using NFL success? College and pro football are a different game. We see a lot of players who are great in college who are just not suited for the pro game. So wouldn't it be better to go by college numbers only?

AlphaOmega
09-11-2009, 10:30 PM
Just to add a wrinkle to this. Is the best way to determine this by using NFL success? College and pro football are a different game. We see a lot of players who are great in college who are just not suited for the pro game. So wouldn't it be better to go by college numbers only?

agreed!

lex
09-11-2009, 10:50 PM
Just to add a wrinkle to this. Is the best way to determine this by using NFL success? College and pro football are a different game. We see a lot of players who are great in college who are just not suited for the pro game. So wouldn't it be better to go by college numbers only?

Not really. While its not the purest indicator (different coaches have different schemes and RBs) the NFL is a truer test of talent. The talent level is even than it was when they accumulated numbers in college either running behind a loaded offensive line or against weak teams.

BroncoMan4ever
09-12-2009, 12:02 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2549856&postcount=10

You two need to talk. If Bush and White arent all that, then you really have to go back a long time to find a USC RB.


Having said that, for me its between Florida, Auburn, Miami, and USC. Bo Jackson was probably the best RB Ive seen aside from maybe Barry Sanders even though he didnt have the best career. Im going to have to go with Florida though. Going back to Neal Anderson's time with the Bears, Florida has always had someone decent between Anderson, Smith, and Taylor, with Smith being the all time leading rusher. That and they have the most yards of teams on the list.


I would ranke them:

1. UF
2. Auburn
3. Miami
4. USC

Even though Miami has a lot of good runners, much of them were at Miami at the same time so the notion of consistency is in question.

Bo may have been the most athletically gifted RB to ever play in the NFL. it is just a shame that he never picked a sport to give 100% attention to. had that guy actually played the game in football shape, he would have set every rushing record there is.

and with Miami, i just see them as having turned out better players more recently. too many of the schools on the list are boasting about guys who were in college 30 years ago, and don't have any top flight guys recently.

look at USC, OJ and Allen account for more than half of the rushing output on the list, and the best they can offer now are 2 change of pace backs, 1 of which can't seem to stay on the field, and the other was before this season trying to eat his way out of a job.

Miami can boast about guys like Gore, Edge, and Portis who have been awesome recently, none of the other schools on the list can say that. and as much as i love TD and believe had injury not happened(curse you Griese) he would have gone down as the undisputed greatest ever i can't call Georgia the best Tailback producing school, especially since he never actually was showcased there.

BroncoMan4ever
09-12-2009, 12:06 AM
I'm definitely biased. :)

http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/29/miami_hurricanes_logo.jpg

being SoCalBronco, i automatically assumed you would be biased towards USC

Clockwork Orange
09-12-2009, 12:25 AM
Yeah, Adrian Peterson is awesome but look at the original post and the data that was compiled. Do you really think AD and Billy Sims stack up against what was posted? Billy Sims and AD, who is in his third year, is what youre lobbying for? Billy Sims has 5,106 career yards. Maybe one day Peterson and Sims might compare with Watters and Bettis but Peterson has a lot of work ahead of him.

I wasn't saying that Oklahoma was the best, or even that they belong up there with these other schools. I was responding to your question about which OU running back has produced in the pros since Sims.

16slayer24
09-12-2009, 12:53 AM
soo what about earl at texas or ricky at texas??? maybe oklahoma state with thurman barry and tatum ??

Bronco LB52
09-12-2009, 12:55 AM
Other backs to consider:

Penn State: Lenny Moore, John Cappelletti, Matt Suhey, D.J. Dozier

Georgia: Rodney Hampton, Frank Sinkwich, Tim Worley, Robert Edwards

Syracuse: Joe Morris, Ernie Davis

USC: Anthony Davis

Notre Dame: Paul Hourning, Allen Pinkett

Miami: Alonzo Highsmith

JJJ
09-12-2009, 01:04 AM
Georgia leading the poll. My god you are homers.

Bronco LB52
09-12-2009, 01:13 AM
In addition to All Day and Billy Sims, Oklahoma also has Tommy McDonald, Greg Pruitt, Joe Washington and Steve Owens.

lex
09-12-2009, 01:56 AM
In addition to All Day and Billy Sims, Oklahoma also has Tommy McDonald, Greg Pruitt, Joe Washington and Steve Owens.


Ill give you Joe Washington. Nice call on that one but the others were kind of meh.

Ramathorn
09-12-2009, 04:48 AM
ummmm. why isnt ohio state listed. This poll is substandard. Eddie george, robert smith......come on.

Breck Bronc
09-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Two guys from Miami that have played in the NFL this decade and ran for over a thousand yards are Najeh Davenport (1,800) and James Jackson (1,100).

The 2001 Miami running back depth chart went Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, Frank Gore. Amazing. Even more amazing was Gore's performance as a true freshman in 2001. The most electric running back I've seen since Barry Sanders in 1988. Too bad he tore up his knee twice in college, even though he has turned into a very good NFL running back.

Rohirrim
09-12-2009, 10:25 AM
You left out Frank Gifford. ;D

Rohirrim
09-12-2009, 10:27 AM
You also might want to wait a couple of years so you can include Joe McKnight. ;D

SoCalBronco
09-12-2009, 11:02 AM
Two guys from Miami that have played in the NFL this decade and ran for over a thousand yards are Najeh Davenport (1,800) and James Jackson (1,100).

The 2001 Miami running back depth chart went Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, Frank Gore. Amazing. Even more amazing was Gore's performance as a true freshman in 2001. The most electric running back I've seen since Barry Sanders in 1988. Too bad he tore up his knee twice in college, even though he has turned into a very good NFL running back.

Yep. A whopping 9 yards per carry in 2001 for true freshman, Frank Gore. If he never had knee problems, he'd be either the best back in the league right now, or at worst, second behind Peterson. He would have been a Hall of Famer had he not had two ACL tears.

SoCalBronco
09-12-2009, 11:12 AM
being SoCalBronco, i automatically assumed you would be biased towards USC

There are very few teams I hate more than U$C. I am praying that the NCAA gives them the death penalty, SMU-style. It won't happen because the NCAA is sucking U$C's dick, but I still would love to see Pete Carroll and Mike Garrett have their heads forcibly lowered into a police car.

Rohirrim
09-12-2009, 11:16 AM
There are very few teams I hate more than U$C. I am praying that the NCAA gives them the death penalty, SMU-style. It won't happen because the NCAA is sucking U$C's dick, but I still would love to see Pete Carroll and Mike Garrett have their heads forcibly lowered into a police car.

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Arkie
09-12-2009, 11:24 AM
There is a 5-way tie for most running backs (4) drafted since 2004.

Arkansas
California
Louisville
USC
Virginia

USC has always been known as RBU, and they are still cranking them out.

Hogan11
09-12-2009, 01:56 PM
I know they're not really deserving of the title, but Man I love seeing Georgia leading the poll ;D

Bronco LB52
09-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Ill give you Joe Washington. Nice call on that one but the others were kind of meh.

Greg Pruitt was a five-time Pro Bowler in NFL. He's hardly a meh guy if you insist on listing Curtis Enis and Blair Thomas for Penn State.

Tommy McDonald is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a wide receiver for the Eagles, but he played tailback and finished runner up in the Heisman voting in 1956 (Paul Hourning).

Steve Owens only won the Heisman Trophy. I think his collegiate career dwarfs some pro busts you listed.

DBroncos4life
09-12-2009, 02:52 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-04-21-draft-database-cover_N.htm

a little off topic but a nice read....