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broncofan7
09-10-2009, 08:27 AM
http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1058503

White flees ‘SA oppression’

A WHITE South African man has been granted refugee status in Canada after an immigration board ruled that his “fear of persecution by African South Africans” was justified.

# Crime victims and criminals come in all colours in SA

Brandon Huntley, 31, who grew up in Mowbray, Cape Town, made his refugee claim in April last year.

On Thursday, in Ottawa, Ontario, the only member of the immigration board to hear Huntley’s application, William Davis, ruled that Huntley would “stick out like a sore thumb due to his colour in any part of the country”.

Davis added that the unemployed irrigation sprinkler salesman had given “clear and convincing” proof of the state’s “inability or unwillingness to protect him”.

Huntley’s lawyer, Russell Kaplan, said that he is a human-rights lawyer who emigrated to Canada 20 years ago to escape the apartheid government’s discrimination against black South Africans.

Kaplan told The Times that Huntley had been attacked seven times in South Africa by black people who called him a “settler” and a “white dog”.

Kind of reminds me of whites growing up in black neighborhoods in America...

Kaplan’s sister, Lara, who emigrated to Canada last year, testified about the torture and murder of her other brother, Robert, by robbers in South Africa in 1997. Both Lara and Huntley gave evidence in camera in a full-day hearing on August 18.

Between 30 and 40 newspaper clippings were presented as evidence of life in South Africa.

“One article exhibited was published in [the Daily Sun in 2004] by Africa Ka Mahamba. entitled ‘Taking from whites is not a crime’,” Kaplan said.

[I]The article quotes the leader of the “Uhuru cultural club” as telling youngsters who attended a Human Rights Day celebration to steal from whites because “it is the right thing to do”.

“The judgment was a direct criticism of the South African government,” Kaplan said.

He said that affirmative action and black economic empowerment were two of the aspects that were taken into account in considering Huntley’s application for refugee status in Canada. “These legislated policies, even though there is an explanation for them, are discriminatory. ”

Huntley first went to Canada on a six-month work permit in 2004, working as a carnival attendant. He returned in 2005, staying on illegally.

Foreign Affairs spokesman Ronnie Mamoepa said it would have been “preferable, before such a decision was made, that the South African government’s view was sought. “Quite clearly, the allegations are as preposterous as they are laughable — which they would be if they were not serious,” he said.

Smiling Assassin27
09-10-2009, 08:34 AM
Foreign Affairs spokesman Ronnie Mamoepa said it would have been “preferable, before such a decision was made, that the South African government’s view was sought. “Quite clearly, the allegations are as preposterous as they are laughable — which they would be if they were not serious,” he said.

Coming from a black man--and one who's been accused of many shady business dealings--this just doesn't hold much credibility. This very line could be taken from an apartheid leader 25 years ago regarding Nelson Mandela.

Garcia Bronco
09-10-2009, 08:38 AM
SA is in a bad way. I feel for them. They have squander what the society had built.

broncofan7
09-10-2009, 08:41 AM
I still cannot believe that the World Cup is being held there next year.....

Meck77
09-10-2009, 08:41 AM
This is off topic but I was talking to a buddy of mine. He got his first DUI earlier this year and was hoping to attend the 2010 Olymics in Canada but under the terms of his penalt y he's not allowed to leave the country? What the heck? We have ten million illegals in this country yet we won't allow Americans to travel to Cananda because they made one really bad mistake? Is this a rare circumstance or par for the course in these days? I really don't know.

cutthemdown
09-10-2009, 10:16 AM
This is off topic but I was talking to a buddy of mine. He got his first DUI earlier this year and was hoping to attend the 2010 Olymics in Canada but under the terms of his penalt y he's not allowed to leave the country? What the heck? We have ten million illegals in this country yet we won't allow Americans to travel to Cananda because they made one really bad mistake? Is this a rare circumstance or par for the course in these days? I really don't know.

term of his probation?

I have no problem with people on probation not being able to leave country.

footstepsfrom#27
09-10-2009, 01:05 PM
BF7...in the future as you troll the net looking for stuff to hate on black people with, here's a couple of suggestions.

1) Make sure the story is true. It's embarassing when it's not.

*** It appears this guy may not be white at all...ouch!

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1062096

*** It appears the Canadian government might be changing their mind.
*** It appears he never reported anything to the police.

You're left without a story now...it took me 5 minutes to find this, and you could have too. Or did you find it but didn't think anyone else would?

2) Check the reliability and integrity of your source for political bias. The Sunday Times is not exactly a politically neutral source. Observe the following:

Canada challenges Huntley decision

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1063426

Published:Sep 10, 2009

Canadian Immigration Minister Jason Kenney is challenging in court a decision to grant South African Brandon Huntley refugee status, according to a Johannesburg newspaper.

His lawyer, John H Simms, QC, has asked the Federal Court for an opportunity to argue that the decision must be quashed and the case heard again, The Star reports.

"The tribunal based its decision on an erroneous finding of fact that it made... without regard to the material before it," said Simms.

"The tribunal failed to observe principles of natural justice, procedural fairness or other procedures required by law."

A tribunal, chaired by William Davis, earlier gave Huntley, 31, refugee status, arguing that the SA government could not protect him from persecution by "African South Africans".

Huntley, who grew up in Mowbray, Cape Town, said he had been attacked seven times by black South Africans and was called a "white dog" and a "settler".
It later emerged that none of the incidents had ever been reported to the police.

The Times appears to frequently be a shill for the former white minority government as evidenced by this amazing piece of condescending racist bull****:

http://www.thetimes.co.za/article.aspx?id=741855

Uncolonised Africa wouldn’t know what it was missing

Published:Apr 07, 2008

Imagine for a moment what life would be like in South Africa if the evil white man hadn’t come to disturb the rustic idyll of the early black settlers.

Ignored by the Portuguese and Dutch, except as a convenient resting point en route to India. Shunned by the British, who had decided that their empire was already large enough and didn’t need to include bits of Africa.

The vast mineral wealth lying undisturbed below the Highveld soil as simple tribesmen graze their cattle blissfully unaware that beneath them lies one of the richest gold seams in the world. But what would they want with gold?

There are no roads because no roads are needed because there are no cars. It’s 2008 and no one has taken the slightest interest in South Africa, apart from a handful of botanists and zoologists who reckon that the country’s flora and fauna rank as one of the largest unspoilt areas in a polluted world.

Because they have never been exposed to the sinful ways of the West, the various tribes of South Africa live healthy and peaceful lives, only occasionally indulging in a bit of ethnic cleansing.

Their children don’t watch television because there is no television to watch. Instead they listen to their grandparents telling stories around a fire. They live in single-storey huts arranged to catch most of the day’s sunshine and their animals are kept nearby.

Nobody has any more animals than his family needs and nobody grows more crops than he requires to feed his family and swap for other crops. Ostentation is unknown because what is the point of trying to impress your fellow citizens when they are not impressible?

The dreaded Internet doesn’t exist in South Africa and cellphone companies have laughed off any hope of interesting the inhabitants in talking expensively into a piece of black plastic. There are no unsightly shopping malls selling expensive goods made by Asian slave workers and consequently there are no newspapers or magazines carrying articles comparing the relative merits of ladies’ handbags.

Whisky, the curse of the white man, isn’t known in this undeveloped land and neither are cigars. The locals brew a sort of beer out of vegetables and drink it out of shallow wooden bowls. Five-litre paint cans have yet to arrive in South Africa.

Every so often a child goes missing from the village, eaten either by a hungry lion or a crocodile. The family mourn for a week or so and then have another child. Life is, on the whole, pretty good but there is something vital missing. Being unaware of the temptations of the outside world, nobody knows what it is. Fire has been discovered and the development of the wheel is coming on nicely but the tribal elders are still aware of some essential happiness ingredient they still need to discover. Praying to the ancestors is no help because they are just as clueless.

Then something happens that will change this undisturbed South Africa forever. Huge metal ships land on the coast and big metal flying birds are sent to explore the sparsely populated hinterland. They are full of men from a place called China and they are looking for coal, metal, oil, platinum, farmland, fresh water and cheap labour and lots of it. Suddenly the indigenous population realise what they have been missing all along: someone to blame. At last their prayers have been answered.

In summary: he may not be white, he may be making it up, and he may not go to Canada after all.

Any questions?

footstepsfrom#27
09-10-2009, 05:22 PM
YooHoo...BF7? You in here?

http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/crickets.jpg

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 05:49 AM
BF7...in the future as you troll the net looking for stuff to hate on black people with, here's a couple of suggestions.

1) Make sure the story is true. It's embarassing when it's not.

*** It appears this guy may not be white at all...ouch!

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1062096

*** It appears the Canadian government might be changing their mind.
*** It appears he never reported anything to the police.

You're left without a story now...it took me 5 minutes to find this, and you could have too. Or did you find it but didn't think anyone else would?

2) Check the reliability and integrity of your source for political bias. The Sunday Times is not exactly a politically neutral source. Observe the following:

Canada challenges Huntley decision

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1063426

Published:Sep 10, 2009

Canadian Immigration Minister Jason Kenney is challenging in court a decision to grant South African Brandon Huntley refugee status, according to a Johannesburg newspaper.

His lawyer, John H Simms, QC, has asked the Federal Court for an opportunity to argue that the decision must be quashed and the case heard again, The Star reports.

"The tribunal based its decision on an erroneous finding of fact that it made... without regard to the material before it," said Simms.

"The tribunal failed to observe principles of natural justice, procedural fairness or other procedures required by law."

A tribunal, chaired by William Davis, earlier gave Huntley, 31, refugee status, arguing that the SA government could not protect him from persecution by "African South Africans".

Huntley, who grew up in Mowbray, Cape Town, said he had been attacked seven times by black South Africans and was called a "white dog" and a "settler".
It later emerged that none of the incidents had ever been reported to the police.

The Times appears to frequently be a shill for the former white minority government as evidenced by this amazing piece of condescending racist bull****:

http://www.thetimes.co.za/article.aspx?id=741855

Uncolonised Africa wouldn’t know what it was missing

Published:Apr 07, 2008

Imagine for a moment what life would be like in South Africa if the evil white man hadn’t come to disturb the rustic idyll of the early black settlers.

Ignored by the Portuguese and Dutch, except as a convenient resting point en route to India. Shunned by the British, who had decided that their empire was already large enough and didn’t need to include bits of Africa.

The vast mineral wealth lying undisturbed below the Highveld soil as simple tribesmen graze their cattle blissfully unaware that beneath them lies one of the richest gold seams in the world. But what would they want with gold?

There are no roads because no roads are needed because there are no cars. It’s 2008 and no one has taken the slightest interest in South Africa, apart from a handful of botanists and zoologists who reckon that the country’s flora and fauna rank as one of the largest unspoilt areas in a polluted world.

Because they have never been exposed to the sinful ways of the West, the various tribes of South Africa live healthy and peaceful lives, only occasionally indulging in a bit of ethnic cleansing.

Their children don’t watch television because there is no television to watch. Instead they listen to their grandparents telling stories around a fire. They live in single-storey huts arranged to catch most of the day’s sunshine and their animals are kept nearby.

Nobody has any more animals than his family needs and nobody grows more crops than he requires to feed his family and swap for other crops. Ostentation is unknown because what is the point of trying to impress your fellow citizens when they are not impressible?

The dreaded Internet doesn’t exist in South Africa and cellphone companies have laughed off any hope of interesting the inhabitants in talking expensively into a piece of black plastic. There are no unsightly shopping malls selling expensive goods made by Asian slave workers and consequently there are no newspapers or magazines carrying articles comparing the relative merits of ladies’ handbags.

Whisky, the curse of the white man, isn’t known in this undeveloped land and neither are cigars. The locals brew a sort of beer out of vegetables and drink it out of shallow wooden bowls. Five-litre paint cans have yet to arrive in South Africa.

Every so often a child goes missing from the village, eaten either by a hungry lion or a crocodile. The family mourn for a week or so and then have another child. Life is, on the whole, pretty good but there is something vital missing. Being unaware of the temptations of the outside world, nobody knows what it is. Fire has been discovered and the development of the wheel is coming on nicely but the tribal elders are still aware of some essential happiness ingredient they still need to discover. Praying to the ancestors is no help because they are just as clueless.

Then something happens that will change this undisturbed South Africa forever. Huge metal ships land on the coast and big metal flying birds are sent to explore the sparsely populated hinterland. They are full of men from a place called China and they are looking for coal, metal, oil, platinum, farmland, fresh water and cheap labour and lots of it. Suddenly the indigenous population realise what they have been missing all along: someone to blame. At last their prayers have been answered.

In summary: he may not be white, he may be making it up, and he may not go to Canada after all.

Any questions?

DOH! He is white.and why would he not report these to the police? BECAUSE THE LACK OF INVESTIGATION FOR WHITES WHO ARE REPORTING CRIMES IN SA IS RAMPANT.

also--there is VAST political fallout regarding Canada's decision to allow this man to claim political asylum based upon crime--there is a major sect of Canadiens who are worried about the precedent that this is setting:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/south-africans-refugee-case-causes-backlash-against-racist-canada/article1272553/

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 05:59 AM
Uncolonised Africa wouldn’t know what it was missing

Published:Apr 07, 2008

Imagine for a moment what life would be like in South Africa if the evil white man hadn’t come to disturb the rustic idyll of the early black settlers.

Ignored by the Portuguese and Dutch, except as a convenient resting point en route to India. Shunned by the British, who had decided that their empire was already large enough and didn’t need to include bits of Africa.

The vast mineral wealth lying undisturbed below the Highveld soil as simple tribesmen graze their cattle blissfully unaware that beneath them lies one of the richest gold seams in the world. But what would they want with gold?

There are no roads because no roads are needed because there are no cars. It’s 2008 and no one has taken the slightest interest in South Africa, apart from a handful of botanists and zoologists who reckon that the country’s flora and fauna rank as one of the largest unspoilt areas in a polluted world.

Because they have never been exposed to the sinful ways of the West, the various tribes of South Africa live healthy and peaceful lives, only occasionally indulging in a bit of ethnic cleansing.

Their children don’t watch television because there is no television to watch. Instead they listen to their grandparents telling stories around a fire. They live in single-storey huts arranged to catch most of the day’s sunshine and their animals are kept nearby.

Nobody has any more animals than his family needs and nobody grows more crops than he requires to feed his family and swap for other crops. Ostentation is unknown because what is the point of trying to impress your fellow citizens when they are not impressible?

The dreaded Internet doesn’t exist in South Africa and cellphone companies have laughed off any hope of interesting the inhabitants in talking expensively into a piece of black plastic. There are no unsightly shopping malls selling expensive goods made by Asian slave workers and consequently there are no newspapers or magazines carrying articles comparing the relative merits of ladies’ handbags.

Whisky, the curse of the white man, isn’t known in this undeveloped land and neither are cigars. The locals brew a sort of beer out of vegetables and drink it out of shallow wooden bowls. Five-litre paint cans have yet to arrive in South Africa.

Every so often a child goes missing from the village, eaten either by a hungry lion or a crocodile. The family mourn for a week or so and then have another child. Life is, on the whole, pretty good but there is something vital missing. Being unaware of the temptations of the outside world, nobody knows what it is. Fire has been discovered and the development of the wheel is coming on nicely but the tribal elders are still aware of some essential happiness ingredient they still need to discover. Praying to the ancestors is no help because they are just as clueless.

Then something happens that will change this undisturbed South Africa forever. Huge metal ships land on the coast and big metal flying birds are sent to explore the sparsely populated hinterland. They are full of men from a place called China and they are looking for coal, metal, oil, platinum, farmland, fresh water and cheap labour and lots of it. Suddenly the indigenous population realise what they have been missing all along: someone to blame. At last their prayers have been answered.

This Article is an EXCELLENT read and would not get even a sniff in any major publication in the USA---God bless our 'freedom' of speech--no? Left to their own devices--they would still be hunting with spears and raping 12 years olds as a matter of a cultural right of passage(wait--that still happens there far too consistently) God bless the Chinese--perhaps Africans can replace the 'white' devil with the yellow' one.........When will you realize that the 'noble' cause you are fighting for is not noble in the least--more like foolhardy and full of irony.......

footstepsfrom#27
09-11-2009, 11:21 AM
This Article is an EXCELLENT read and would not get even a sniff in any major publication in the USA---God bless our 'freedom' of speech--no? Left to their own devices--they would still be hunting with spears and raping 12 years olds as a matter of a cultural right of passage(wait--that still happens there far too consistently) God bless the Chinese--perhaps Africans can replace the 'white' devil with the yellow' one.........When will you realize that the 'noble' cause you are fighting for is not noble in the least--more like foolhardy and full of irony.......
You're out of your feeble mind. NOTHING you can say justifies the centuries of murder, kidnapping and subjugation and slavery of millions of people for profit, which is what colonialism is, let alone this bull**** you're spouting. You are apparently woefully ignorant of the history of African nations going back to antiquity and you obviously don't realize that when Europeans were living in caves and eating each other advanced civilizations were flourishing in Africa.

African civilizations in Western and Central Africa developed farming and ranching, created trading partners with gold and salt as far away as China, designed economic systems using money, built large cities with centralilzed governments and buildings built with masonry, developed advanced written languages, created sophisticated cultures featuring prolific art, music and poetry, introduced taxation systems and formed military and economic alliances with partners as far away as Arabia. Egypt, which was an African nation populated by black people, not Arabs as you've been brainwashed to believe, built the most advanced civilization on earth at a time when Europe was little more than cave men crawling around in the mud.

The horriblle conditions we see across this continent today are almost entirely due to the impact of what Western nations did to these people, not just through slavery, but through the systematic attempt to eliminate their cultures that continues even today. Coloninalism destroyed nations, rearranged tribal allignments that existed for thousands of years, decimated cultures and collapsed economic alliances. It forced long standing tribal enemies to exist under the same centralized rule, and it raped the land of it's natural resources. There is NOTHING you can say that excuses it, let alone supports it as anything but pure evil.

Hitler thought he was right for trying to murder Jews and unite "true Arians" under a banner not unlike the one you describe. You see Africa as nothing but a bunch of spear chucking savages, and it's because you know are ignorant of what you're speaking about. You need to read some books written by someone else besides white people or those who reinforce your own biased view of the world.

BTW...the free press you trumpet in South Africa? They fired this asswipe for writing this crap, as they should have.

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 11:43 AM
You're out of your feeble mind. NOTHING you can say justifies the centuries of murder, kidnapping and subjugation and slavery of millions of people for profit, which is what colonialism is, let alone this bull**** you're spouting. You are apparently woefully ignorant of the history of African nations going back to antiquity and you obviously don't realize that when Europeans were living in caves and eating each other advanced civilizations were flourishing in Africa.

African civilizations in Western and Central Africa developed farming and ranching, created trading partners with gold and salt as far away as China, designed economic systems using money, built large cities with centralilzed governments and buildings built with masonry, developed advanced written languages, created sophisticated cultures featuring prolific art, music and poetry, introduced taxation systems and formed military and economic alliances with partners as far away as Arabia. Egypt, which was an African nation populated by black people, not Arabs as you've been brainwashed to believe, built the most advanced civilization on earth at a time when Europe was little more than cave men crawling around in the mud.

The horriblle conditions we see across this continent today are almost entirely due to the impact of what Western nations did to these people, not just through slavery, but through the systematic attempt to eliminate their cultures that continues even today. Coloninalism destroyed nations, rearranged tribal allignments that existed for thousands of years, decimated cultures and collapsed economic alliances. It forced long standing tribal enemies to exist under the same centralized rule, and it raped the land of it's natural resources. There is NOTHING you can say that excuses it, let alone supports it as anything but pure evil.

Hitler thought he was right for trying to murder Jews and unite "true Arians" under a banner not unlike the one you describe. You see Africa as nothing but a bunch of spear chucking savages, and it's because you know are ignorant of what you're speaking about. You need to read some books written by someone else besides white people or those who reinforce your own biased view of the world.

BTW...the free press you trumpet in South Africa? They fired this asswipe for writing this crap, as they should have.

RIGHT! Africa is the sole 'cradle of civilization'--not so fast my friend--I will address the rest of your brain washed tripe later but 1st

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-skull-that-rewrites-the-history-of-man-1783861.html

The conventional view of human evolution and how early man colonised the world has been thrown into doubt by a series of stunning palaeontological discoveries suggesting that Africa was not the sole cradle of humankind. Scientists have found a handful of ancient human skulls at an archaeological site two hours from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, that suggest a Eurasian chapter in the long evolutionary story of man.

footstepsfrom#27
09-11-2009, 11:58 AM
Links in the story appear to have changed since yesterday. Use the following instead:

1) Canada Challenges Huntley Decision

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:86-KRPdIazIJ:www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx%3Fid%3D1063426+%22Canada+challenges+H untley+decision%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

2) The artical on Huntley being of mixed race appears to have been taken off the server by the Sunday Times. Here's another link that works:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0910/1224254206085.html

SA man who said he was persecuted for being white is of mixed race

BILL CORCORAN in Cape Town

A STUDY of the family history of a South African man granted refugee status in Canada on the grounds that he faced persecution at home for being white has shown he is of mixed race, a newspaper reported yesterday.

According to the Pretoria News, research carried out by Cape Town-based social historian Patric Tariq Mellet into the ancestry of Brandon Huntley has revealed he is part coloured, a local term for South Africans of mixed origins.

Mr Huntley (31) hit the headlines around the world last week when an independent immigration board in Canada granted him refugee status because of his alleged persecution by black criminals in South Africa for being white. He said that between 1991 and 2003 he had been attacked seven times and stabbed three times by black South Africans who called him “a white dog” and “a settler”. He never reported any of the incidents to the police.

The immigration board’s chairperson, William Davis, said the evidence during a hearing last month painted a picture “of indifference and inability or unwillingness” by the South African government to protect Mr Huntley.
Mr Davis concluded that if Mr Huntley was sent back to South Africa his life would be in danger, and granted him refugee status. The decision caused widespread debate about racism in South Africa, and prompted the government to deny Mr Huntley’s assertions about life in his home country. It has asked its Canadian counterpart to challenge the ruling, which it has agreed to do.

However, the story took a bizarre twist on Monday when Mr Mellet – related to Mr Huntley via his maternal grandparents – wrote on the Cape-Slavery-Heritage website that he had verified Mr Huntley’s ancestral breakdown through death notices and the Cape Town city archives.

“Over 50 per cent of Brandon’s relatives are people of colour in Cape Town and don’t share his race attitudes or so-called ‘fear problem’ . . . Brandon’s great-great-grandmother, Francina, was a woman of colour, married to . . . William Haddon, one of the first Englishmen to settle in the Xalanga district of the Transkei . . . At least one of his direct family, his father’s brother, is married across the colour line.”

ANY MORE FREAKING QUESTIONS? ???

footstepsfrom#27
09-11-2009, 12:01 PM
RIGHT! Africa is the sole 'cradle of civilization'--not so fast my friend--I will address the rest of your brain washed tripe later but 1st

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-skull-that-rewrites-the-history-of-man-1783861.html
Who cares? I said not one word about Africa being the cradle of civilization. If you're creating a straw man at least make one that's remotely likely to be believable. I'm responding to your stupid statement about why Africa is better off because westerners murdered them, enslaved them and tried to destroy their culture.

Are you really this dense?

Mr.Meanie
09-11-2009, 12:06 PM
I don't think I've ever met any person who is as fixated on black people as you are, bf7. Why is that?

footstepsfrom#27
09-11-2009, 12:12 PM
I don't think I've ever met any person who is as fixated on black people as you are, bf7. Why is that?
My guess is he had a 6th grade gym class with some little black boys and they laughed at his pubescent boyhood. :giggle:

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 12:13 PM
Links in the story appear to have changed since yesterday. Use the following instead:

1) Canada Challenges Huntley Decision

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:86-KRPdIazIJ:www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx%3Fid%3D1063426+%22Canada+challenges+H untley+decision%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

2) The artical on Huntley being of mixed race appears to have been taken off the server by the Sunday Times. Here's another link that works:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0910/1224254206085.html

SA man who said he was persecuted for being white is of mixed race

BILL CORCORAN in Cape Town

A STUDY of the family history of a South African man granted refugee status in Canada on the grounds that he faced persecution at home for being white has shown he is of mixed race, a newspaper reported yesterday.

According to the Pretoria News, research carried out by Cape Town-based social historian Patric Tariq Mellet into the ancestry of Brandon Huntley has revealed he is part coloured, a local term for South Africans of mixed origins.

Mr Huntley (31) hit the headlines around the world last week when an independent immigration board in Canada granted him refugee status because of his alleged persecution by black criminals in South Africa for being white. He said that between 1991 and 2003 he had been attacked seven times and stabbed three times by black South Africans who called him “a white dog” and “a settler”. He never reported any of the incidents to the police.

The immigration board’s chairperson, William Davis, said the evidence during a hearing last month painted a picture “of indifference and inability or unwillingness” by the South African government to protect Mr Huntley.
Mr Davis concluded that if Mr Huntley was sent back to South Africa his life would be in danger, and granted him refugee status. The decision caused widespread debate about racism in South Africa, and prompted the government to deny Mr Huntley’s assertions about life in his home country. It has asked its Canadian counterpart to challenge the ruling, which it has agreed to do.

However, the story took a bizarre twist on Monday when Mr Mellet – related to Mr Huntley via his maternal grandparents – wrote on the Cape-Slavery-Heritage website that he had verified Mr Huntley’s ancestral breakdown through death notices and the Cape Town city archives.

“Over 50 per cent of Brandon’s relatives are people of colour in Cape Town and don’t share his race attitudes or so-called ‘fear problem’ . . . Brandon’s great-great-grandmother, Francina, was a woman of colour, married to . . . William Haddon, one of the first Englishmen to settle in the Xalanga district of the Transkei . . . At least one of his direct family, his father’s brother, is married across the colour line.”

ANY MORE FREAKING QUESTIONS? ???

Even MORE DISPICABLE. So anyone who is not 100% African is subject to more ridicule and crime--we all KNOW that whites are having VERY difficult times all throughout Africa --but even mixed race people are not free from the thuggery,land grabbing, rapings and beatings--and because he LOOKS white to the average African THUG--he is subject to more ridicule and violence

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 12:20 PM
I don't think I've ever met any person who is as fixated on black people as you are, bf7. Why is that?

I am not against Black people--I am against this era of political correctness that we currently find our nation in--when the facts bare themselves out--yet are muzzled by the political forces of our times.I look for articles that go DIRECTLY against the popular held beliefs that are expressed in our media. for 14 % of the US population--blacks certainly do commit MORE THAN their fair share of crimes--When Blacks inherit a country in 1992-- what happens--within 20 years it is in disarray--resembling a large metropolitan US city like Detroit or Philadelphia--overridden with criminals and thugs. But it is the white man's fault......

footstepsfrom#27
09-11-2009, 12:21 PM
Even MORE DISPICABLE. So anyone who is not 100% African is subject to more ridicule and crime--we all KNOW that whites are having VERY difficult times all throughout Africa --but even mixed race people are not free from the thuggery,land grabbing, rapings and beatings--and because he LOOKS white to the average African THUG--he is subject to more ridicule and violence
You must be illiterate. The story says he never reported any of this to the cops, which if true probably means that he's lying just to get free passage to Canada.

It's shocking how ignorant and utterly blind to your own hatred you are.


Now excuse me while I go do something more productive than schooling you again...I guess I'll scoop the yard of dog dirt.

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 12:26 PM
You must be illiterate. The story says he never reported any of this to the cops, which if true probably means that he's lying just to get free passage to Canada.

It's shocking how ignorant and utterly blind to your own hatred you are.


Now excuse me while I go do something more productive than schooling you again...I guess I'll scoop the yard of dog dirt.

School me? LOL I have already addressed WHY he did not report these thing to the police--the POLICE DO NOT ACT ON BEHALF OF WHITES IN A RELAIBLE FASHION.

RAPE:

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Mr.Meanie
09-11-2009, 12:29 PM
I am not against Black people--I am against this era of political correctness that we currently find our nation in--when the facts bare themselves out--yet are muzzled by the political forces of our times.I look for articles that go DIRECTLY against the popular held beliefs that are expressed in our media. for 14 % of the US population--blacks certainly do commit MORE THAN their fair share of crimes--When Blacks inherit a country in 1992-- what happens--within 20 years it is in disarray--resembling a large metropolitan US city like Detroit or Philadelphia--overridden with criminals and thugs. But it is the white man's fault......

I already knew that you spend alot your time combing the internet for anything you can find on Black on White crime or injustice.... I was just wondering why. There's quite a bit of injustice in the world, what drives you to focus on this issue in such an obsessive manner?

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Black cops in SA: **** OFF to white people who had just been robbed by blacks

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Johannesburg - "It's time you whites packed your bags and ****ed off."
With these words a black police inspector from Tembisa on the East Rand allegedly scolded the victims of an armed robbery and hijacking attempt in Kempton Park on Monday night.
This officer, whose name is known to Beeld, apparently refused to arrest a black suspect on the scene.
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He ostensibly also refused to allow white members of the Norkem Park police to search the suspects' car and called them "white dogs".
Lubbe said he was on his way to drop off his daughter and grandchildren at their house in Terrenure at about 23:00 when he saw a grey Corsa bakkie next to the road in Orange River Street.
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"The inspector said we were white dogs and he told a white policewoman that he would see to it that she was shot dead in a robbery.
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An eyewitness apparently heard the inspector's offensive remarks.
"I saw how these people were robbed, but he protected the criminal."
The inspector apparently did open an accident report. The Corsa driver's wife then arrived on the scene, posing as a police officer.
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Lubbe said the woman emptied out the contents of his daughter's handbag and returned the empty handbag to her.
On Tuesday Lubbe opened a case of armed robbery and attempted hijacking at the Norkem Park police.
Gauteng police spokesperson Superintendent Eugene Opperman said the matter was being investigated "with the view to possible disciplinary steps."
The Tembisa and provincial police management have expressed their shock at the alleged incident, he said.
- Beeld

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 12:34 PM
I already knew that you spend alot your time combing the internet for anything you can find on Black on White crime or injustice.... I was just wondering why. There's quite a bit of injustice in the world, what drives you to focus on this issue in such an obsessive manner?

Because the majority of our news networks--yahoo, MSN, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS do not cover these instances with anywhere NEAR the degree that they cover the RARE white on black crimes of our current times.

Rigs11
09-11-2009, 12:38 PM
you mean racism goes both ways???And in other countries too??Gasp!:rofl:

Mr.Meanie
09-11-2009, 12:38 PM
Because the majority of our news networks--yahoo, MSN, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS do not cover these instances with anywhere NEAR the degree that they cover the RARE white on black crimes of our current times.

ah ok. Well good luck with that.

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 01:05 PM
you mean racism goes both ways???And in other countries too??Gasp!:rofl:

IT does! But one wouldn't know that by reading the headlines of major American news organizations.....

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 01:14 PM
Who cares? I said not one word about Africa being the cradle of civilization. If you're creating a straw man at least make one that's remotely likely to be believable. I'm responding to your stupid statement about why Africa is better off because westerners murdered them, enslaved them and tried to destroy their culture.

Are you really this dense?

If Africa was so advanced--(IE not hunting with spears and raping 12 year olds) WHY DID THEY ROLE OVER LIKE BEATEN DOGS when the Euros came--perhaps because the EUROPEAN SOCIETY WAS MORE ADVANCED? Face it--you can blame the failings of Africans ALL OVER THIS PLANET on the 'white devil' all you want--the facts are--if left to their own devices--they would still be living in huts and wearing animal skins--like the untouched peoples in South America that were recently discovered in a rain forest.....Short term pain, LONG TERM GAIN for AFRICA--that could have been the Legacy of EURO involvement in African affairs...Please name me a prosperous 1st world African country that was not formerly a colony? and what happens when the EURO cultural elite leaves--absolute chaos and ruin.--SEE ZIMBABWE and South Africa as a prime examples--good grief--look at our OWN AMERICAN CITIES such as Detroit and Philadelphia.......

Rigs11
09-11-2009, 03:19 PM
IT does! But one wouldn't know that by reading the headlines of major American news organizations.....

this didn't even happen in the US. And you are going to hear more about blacks being suppressed because they are the minority in this country.Hence more chance of racially motivated attacks and therefore more reports in the media.

Rigs11
09-11-2009, 03:24 PM
If Africa was so advanced--(IE not hunting with spears and raping 12 year olds) WHY DID THEY ROLE OVER LIKE BEATEN DOGS when the Euros came--perhaps because the EUROPEAN SOCIETY WAS MORE ADVANCED? Face it--you can blame the failings of Africans ALL OVER THIS PLANET on the 'white devil' all you want--the facts are--if left to their own devices--they would still be living in huts and wearing animal skins--like the untouched peoples in South America that were recently discovered in a rain forest.....Short term pain, LONG TERM GAIN for AFRICA--that could have been the Legacy of EURO involvement in African affairs...Please name me a prosperous 1st world African country that was not formerly a colony? and what happens when the EURO cultural elite leaves--absolute chaos and ruin.--SEE ZIMBABWE and South Africa as a prime examples--good grief--look at our OWN AMERICAN CITIES such as Detroit and Philadelphia.......

What an asnine argument. I think people were far more 'advanced' when they were living in huts and wearing animal skins. They lived with nature instead of pillaging it. They lived with the environment instead of destroying it. You should stop now because you are coming off as a racist with a chip on your shoulder.

broncofan7
09-11-2009, 03:36 PM
What an asnine argument. I think people were far more 'advanced' when they were living in huts and wearing animal skins. They lived with nature instead of pillaging it. They lived with the environment instead of destroying it. You should stop now because you are coming off as a racist with a chip on your shoulder.

Go hug a tree. In a ghetto. After midnight.

coming off as racist? NO.

The Africans were not as advanced as the Euros and no one can argue otherwise--if in YOUR utopia you want to imagine what Africa would look like without Euro colonization--

See this link:

http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0530-tribe.html

cutthemdown
09-11-2009, 10:28 PM
what an asnine argument. I think people were far more 'advanced' when they were living in huts and wearing animal skins. They lived with nature instead of pillaging it. They lived with the environment instead of destroying it. You should stop now because you are coming off as a racist with a chip on your shoulder.

lol!!!!!!

cutthemdown
09-11-2009, 10:39 PM
I could care less what happens to white people in South Africa.......And I'm Dutch!!!!!!!!!

footstepsfrom#27
09-12-2009, 08:18 PM
If Africa was so advanced--(IE not hunting with spears and raping 12 year olds) WHY DID THEY ROLE OVER LIKE BEATEN DOGS when the Euros came--perhaps because the EUROPEAN SOCIETY WAS MORE ADVANCED? Face it--you can blame the failings of Africans ALL OVER THIS PLANET on the 'white devil' all you want--the facts are--if left to their own devices--they would still be living in huts and wearing animal skins--like the untouched peoples in South America that were recently discovered in a rain forest.....Short term pain, LONG TERM GAIN for AFRICA--that could have been the Legacy of EURO involvement in African affairs...Please name me a prosperous 1st world African country that was not formerly a colony? and what happens when the EURO cultural elite leaves--absolute chaos and ruin.--SEE ZIMBABWE and South Africa as a prime examples--good grief--look at our OWN AMERICAN CITIES such as Detroit and Philadelphia.......
You are obviously ignorant about huge sections of history.

Europeans enslaved each other and were also the victims of the Arab slave trade until they got their hands on gun powder and firearms in the 14th century. Then they went searching for people who didn't have the same weapons to fight back with and used religion to justify what they were doing in the form of blessing from the Catholic church; not unlike Adolph Hitler used Arian racial lineage merged with a twisted appeal to Christianity as his appeal to moral priviledge. Slave ships raided along the coast in little villages rather than pushing into the interior where they would have faced larger contingents of armed opposition. Colonial armies did battle with small tribes and kingdoms rarely facing armies of more powerful states. When they did the results were sometimes disasterous as the British discovered in South Africa when they were wiped out by Zulu warriors in the 1860's.

I guess you think American Indians are also inferior since we managed to subjugate them as well. Might does not make right. Your stupid mention of "raping 12 year old girls"...is more accurately characteristic of the way white slave owners behaved toward black slaves. In fact white slave owners raping black female slaves of any age in America was so common it's a virtual certainty that nearly every black person in America has white blood in them.

Most people have enough intelligence to understand that murder, rape, wholesale attempted destruction of another culture and legalized cruelty toward millions of people is not something to be proud of. Very few people are actually stupid enough to not only justify this as defensible, but to make the bizarely insane argument that the victims should thank their tormentors.

frerottenextelway
09-12-2009, 08:23 PM
IT does! But one wouldn't know that by reading the headlines of major American news organizations.....

Perhaps that would be because just a couple decades ago we made people with darker skin use seperate bathrooms...?

cutthemdown
09-12-2009, 08:30 PM
You are obviously ignorant about huge sections of history.

Europeans enslaved each other and were also the victims of the Arab slave trade until they got their hands on gun powder and firearms in the 14th century. Then they went searching for people who didn't have the same weapons to fight back with and used religion to justify what they were doing in the form of blessing from the Catholic church; not unlike Adolph Hitler used Arian racial lineage merged with a twisted appeal to Christianity as his appeal to moral priviledge. Slave ships raided along the coast in little villages rather than pushing into the interior where they would have faced larger contingents of armed opposition. Colonial armies did battle with small tribes and kingdoms rarely facing armies of more powerful states. When they did the results were sometimes disasterous as the British discovered in South Africa when they were wiped out by Zulu warriors in the 1860's.

I guess you think American Indians are also inferior since we managed to subjugate them as well. Might does not make right. Your stupid mention of "raping 12 year old girls"...is more accurately characteristic of the way white slave owners behaved toward black slaves. In fact white slave owners raping black female slaves of any age in America was so common it's a virtual certainty that nearly every black person in America has white blood in them.

Most people have enough intelligence to understand that murder, rape, wholesale attempted destruction of another culture and legalized cruelty toward millions of people is not something to be proud of. Very few people are actually stupid enough to not only justify this as defensible, but to make the bizarely insane argument that the victims should thank their tormentors.

Onward christian soldiers marching as to war!!!!!!!!!!