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aces11
09-09-2009, 02:06 PM
Talk about a weird turn of events....per espn

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4459220

SoDak Bronco
09-09-2009, 02:08 PM
i think i said the deal would get done a few months back...i knew it ;)

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Do it and do it correctly.

Popcorn Sutton
09-09-2009, 02:09 PM
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I hope they are able to back load it a bit or offer less guaranteed money than Roddy White received.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-09-2009, 02:09 PM
i would love this....git er done

ant1999e
09-09-2009, 02:12 PM
There is always a time and place.

bronco militia
09-09-2009, 02:12 PM
he'll be a raider in a few weeks

baja
09-09-2009, 02:14 PM
he'll be a raider in a few weeks

Wanta bet?

He'll sign a long term deal within 2 weeks with the Broncos

Beantown Bronco
09-09-2009, 02:15 PM
I won't believe anything until I get Josina's twitter update.

broncofan2438
09-09-2009, 02:15 PM
DAM, You beat me to it. I was just gonna post this. Give this fool more money and get on with the season

tsiguy96
09-09-2009, 02:15 PM
ive been waiting for this all year. his problem is not WITH denver personally at all. my favorite player (on the field) hope we can get this done. i bet the gauranteed money is a bit lower than others, but incentives super high and per year basis is good too.

jhns
09-09-2009, 02:17 PM
I want Marshall to get a deal and stay around so this is good to hear. The only problem I see is again they are showing they reward crying and acting like a child. First cutler acts childish and gets what he wants and now marshall is going to as well? This is the perfect way for our front office to make their jobs much harder. This is not sending a good message to all current and future Bronco players.

baja
09-09-2009, 02:17 PM
Nows is the time while he is feeling remorseful and his peers are telling him he f**ed up

PRBronco
09-09-2009, 02:18 PM
Nope, sorry, not ready to remember you yet Brandon. You owe me a touchdown before I stop forgetting you.

BabyTO
09-09-2009, 02:19 PM
would be awesome. i thought he was a goner but it would be great if we could lock him up and move on already. we need him

baja
09-09-2009, 02:20 PM
I want Marshall to get a deal and stay around so this is good to hear. The only problem I see is again they are showing they reward crying and acting like a child. First cutler acts childish and gets what he wants and now marshall is going to as well? This is the perfect way for our front office to make their jobs much harder. This is not sending a good message to all current and future Bronco players.

Not really they held their ground, even they suspended him They only started to talk after he admitted his error and came back ready to play.

Popcorn Sutton
09-09-2009, 02:20 PM
I won't believe anything until I get Josina's twitter update.

....after lunch.

lostknight
09-09-2009, 02:22 PM
Back load it, but give him some money up front - their proposed no guaranteed money contract was insulting.

Marshall bailed them out of that mistake, but it's not likely that he is going to set any records with Orton throwing the rock.

Br0nc0Buster
09-09-2009, 02:22 PM
His play deserves a new contract
But his off the field behavior and the fact he is one IQ point above someone with downs syndrome is what has held it up so far

I would like him to get a new contract though that also doesnt completely screw the Broncos in the event he gets arrested again

errand
09-09-2009, 02:24 PM
I want Marshall to get a deal and stay around so this is good to hear. The only problem I see is again they are showing they reward crying and acting like a child. First cutler acts childish and gets what he wants and now marshall is going to as well? This is the perfect way for our front office to make their jobs much harder. This is not sending a good message to all current and future Bronco players.

I agree...however we need to have several clauses in it like he loses X number of $$$ for punting the ball instead of giving it toa ball boy. Or he loses money for just being a putz. And a no-sulking clause when Eddie Royal gets more balls thrown his way.

bronco militia
09-09-2009, 02:24 PM
Wanta bet?

He'll sign a long term deal within 2 weeks with the Broncos

"oh I got this one, Militia"


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/don_banks/01/28/Day1/t1_seymour.jpg


http://www.2010-super-bowl.com/Miami_Dolphins/bill-belichick.jpg

"no comment"

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"no comment"

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"I'll see you in court"

KevinJames
09-09-2009, 02:24 PM
wow talk about a turn of events lets get this deal done and forget this all happened gogogogoogo

Pony Boy
09-09-2009, 02:25 PM
If you expect him to play like a pro bowl player then pay him like a pro bowl player

Baba Booey
09-09-2009, 02:25 PM
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scorpio
09-09-2009, 02:26 PM
http://imgur.com/qqXAz.gif

Beantown Bronco
09-09-2009, 02:28 PM
I agree...however we need to have several clauses in it like he loses X number of $$$ for punting the ball instead of giving it toa ball boy. Or he loses money for just being a putz. And a no-sulking clause when Eddie Royal gets more balls thrown his way.

Jamie Dukes? Is that you?

WABronco
09-09-2009, 02:29 PM
Brandon we offer you 50 thousand guaranteed!

This is funny. The guy's a punk ass. Not more than a week ago he was public enemy numero uno. But now? Get 'er done! I guess people just don't like controversy.

But ya, he's a good player, so if the deal makes sense, do it.

KevinJames
09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3881100101_afc64b72d0_o.jpg

his punishment for acting like a baby

RunSilentRunDeep
09-09-2009, 02:33 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3881100101_afc64b72d0_o.jpg

his punishment for acting like a baby

That picture is haunting, it's like looking at rest stop toilet on the Jersey Turnpike.

bronco militia
09-09-2009, 02:33 PM
blech...they wouldn't be too bad if they were different colors

errand
09-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Back load it, but give him some money up front - their proposed no guaranteed money contract was insulting.

Marshall bailed them out of that mistake, but it's not likely that he is going to set any records with Orton throwing the rock.

Have you ever looked at the NFL's record books? You'll see names of oft-maligned QB's through out it. sure they don't hold the top spots career wise...but their numbers, when compared to alot of hall of famers are not chopped liver.

Vinny Testeverde isn't known as being a "great" QB....but only 7 players have more TD passes than he does. Only 6 QB's have completed more passes, and only 5 QB's have thrown for more yards.

Dave Krieg is another oft-maligned QB...who is in the top 10 of TD passes thrown as well. He's 11th in passing yardage, and 12th in completions.

This is by no means to say Orton will have a decent career...but you don't know that he won't either. Any QB in the NFL can have one good to great season (Don Majkowski, Derek Anderson, Mark Rypien to name a few)...who's to say Kyle Orton can't?

errand
09-09-2009, 02:36 PM
If you expect him to play like a pro bowl player then pay him like a pro bowl player

How about if he want's to be called a professional....act like a professional?

If he does that...the money will come.

80smith
09-09-2009, 02:39 PM
I won't believe anything until I get Josina's twitter update.

BWAAahhaaaAAAhhAAAA:rofl:

TotallyScrewed
09-09-2009, 02:44 PM
His play deserves a new contract
But his off the field behavior and the fact he is one IQ point above someone with downs syndrome is what has held it up so far

I would like him to get a new contract though that also doesnt completely screw the Broncos in the event he gets arrested again

Ohhh Look Out over there! You're goin' straight to hell for that one.

TotallyScrewed
09-09-2009, 02:49 PM
How about if he want's to be called a professional....act like a professional?

If he does that...the money will come.

What the hell has he done PROFESSIONALLY for the last two years?? If he's such a cry baby and spoiled, etc... Why doesn't every other team have a guy who's posted his numbers for the last two years??

Crap, football fans here are morons...absolute MORONS!!

Did Terrell Davis or Clinton Portis deserve a raise after posting the numbers that they posted in their 2 or 3 years??

It's a profession that is short lived and if you produce on the field, you should get paid. Now, if you want to bitch about garanteed contracts and signing bonuses, I'm with you.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-09-2009, 02:52 PM
have you ever looked at the nfl's record books? You'll see names of oft-maligned qb's through out it. Sure they don't hold the top spots career wise...but their numbers, when compared to alot of hall of famers are not chopped liver.

Vinny testeverde isn't known as being a "great" qb....but only 7 players have more td passes than he does. Only 6 qb's have completed more passes, and only 5 qb's have thrown for more yards.

Dave krieg is another oft-maligned qb...who is in the top 10 of td passes thrown as well. He's 11th in passing yardage, and 12th in completions.

This is by no means to say orton will have a decent career...but you don't know that he won't either. Any qb in the nfl can have one good to great season (don majkowski, derek anderson, mark rypien to name a few)...who's to say kyle orton can't?

qft

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 02:55 PM
Have you ever looked at the NFL's record books? You'll see names of oft-maligned QB's through out it. sure they don't hold the top spots career wise...but their numbers, when compared to alot of hall of famers are not chopped liver.

Vinny Testeverde isn't known as being a "great" QB....but only 7 players have more TD passes than he does. Only 6 QB's have completed more passes, and only 5 QB's have thrown for more yards.

Dave Krieg is another oft-maligned QB...who is in the top 10 of TD passes thrown as well. He's 11th in passing yardage, and 12th in completions.

This is by no means to say Orton will have a decent career...but you don't know that he won't either. Any QB in the NFL can have one good to great season (Don Majkowski, Derek Anderson, Mark Rypien to name a few)...who's to say Kyle Orton can't?

I will :wave:

Dedhed
09-09-2009, 02:56 PM
I'm all for paying the man if he shuts up and plays ball. If they can protect themselves in the event of further suspensions or even the mention of an off field issue, all the better.

There is no doubt we're a better team with him on the field.

PRBronco
09-09-2009, 02:57 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3881100101_afc64b72d0_o.jpg

his punishment for acting like a baby

I seriously love these jerseys. Where'd you find that picture?

*edit* Wow he looks like Stephon Marbury with his head shaved.

BroncoMan4ever
09-09-2009, 02:58 PM
ive been waiting for this all year. his problem is not WITH denver personally at all. my favorite player (on the field) hope we can get this done. i bet the gauranteed money is a bit lower than others, but incentives super high and per year basis is good too.

i agree. he probably isn't getting the same deal White got in Atlanta, but his incentives will give him the opportunity to make more money than White, while also safeguarding the team in case his antics re-occur

DBroncos4life
09-09-2009, 03:05 PM
McD must have finished watching preseason game film and figured he might keep his job longer if Marshall and Royal are the two starting WR's instead of Royal and Gaffney.

SoDak Bronco
09-09-2009, 03:06 PM
i was thnking we were going to trade him after this season..i hope he keeps his nose clean.

Broncojef
09-09-2009, 03:11 PM
What the hell has he done PROFESSIONALLY for the last two years?? If he's such a cry baby and spoiled, etc... Why doesn't every other team have a guy who's posted his numbers for the last two years??

Crap, football fans here are morons...absolute MORONS!!

Did Terrell Davis or Clinton Portis deserve a raise after posting the numbers that they posted in their 2 or 3 years??

It's a profession that is short lived and if you produce on the field, you should get paid. Now, if you want to b**** about garanteed contracts and signing bonuses, I'm with you.

And next month when he gets a DUI or punches his girlfriend and is suspended for half the year half the board, including myself, will wonder why we catered to his demands. Give me a first round draft choice and be done with him.

Gcver2ver3
09-09-2009, 03:12 PM
well perhaps Denver is just stringing him along a little bit to try and get the guy even more motivated to play...

just the fact that the Broncos are entertaining a new contract may be enough to get Brandon smiling again...

jhns
09-09-2009, 03:13 PM
who's to say Kyle Orton can't?

Everyone that has seen him play?

baja
09-09-2009, 03:14 PM
"oh I got this one, Militia"


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/don_banks/01/28/Day1/t1_seymour.jpg


http://www.2010-super-bowl.com/Miami_Dolphins/bill-belichick.jpg

"no comment"

http://nfldotcom.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/j_mcdaniels_blog.jpg

"no comment"

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5513d181b88340120a53d615f970c-800wi

"I'll see you in court"

lol

I knew you knew I was right. ;D

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 03:17 PM
lol

I knew you knew I was right. ;D

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1251156233240.jpg

Hercules Rockefeller
09-09-2009, 03:27 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/O-mizzle/HeinkenGIF1.gif

That's how I feel.

He's perfect for this offense.

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 03:30 PM
Re thread subject:


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http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr12/HammettSHREDZ/Fat_guy_chair_fall.gif

Gcver2ver3
09-09-2009, 03:30 PM
some guy on the Broncosmania is claiming he got a text that the Broncos and Marshall have agreed to a 6yr contract and that the Denver Post will be breaking the news shortly...

i find that hard to believe, but i'm letting yall know anyway because NOTHING surprises me anymore about the Denver Broncos this year...

SureShot
09-09-2009, 03:31 PM
24859

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 03:33 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1766/tigerg.gif

Popcorn Sutton
09-09-2009, 03:33 PM
VicLombardi (http://twitter.com/VicLombardi) Orton says he's been working on routes with Marshall after practices...sounds like he's gonna play

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 03:34 PM
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Popcorn Sutton
09-09-2009, 03:34 PM
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TheReverend
09-09-2009, 03:34 PM
http://image.hotdog.hu/_data/members3/279/811279/images/Joker-Clapping.gif

errand
09-09-2009, 03:44 PM
What the hell has he done PROFESSIONALLY for the last two years?? If he's such a cry baby and spoiled, etc... Why doesn't every other team have a guy who's posted his numbers for the last two years??

Crap, football fans here are morons...absolute MORONS!!

Did Terrell Davis or Clinton Portis deserve a raise after posting the numbers that they posted in their 2 or 3 years??

It's a profession that is short lived and if you produce on the field, you should get paid. Now, if you want to b**** about garanteed contracts and signing bonuses, I'm with you.

The key word was ACT, there clown....

You remind me of people who will defend a drunk or druggie at work by saying 'Yeah, but he does good work when he shows up..."

Sure Brandon put up great numbers....but he's in no way a professional. He's a spoiled amateur drawing pay. when one thinks of professionals they think of Jerry Rice, Eddie Mac or Rod Smith...not this idiot who pouts when he doesn't get his way.

errand
09-09-2009, 03:49 PM
McD must have finished watching preseason game film and figured he might keep his job longer if Marshall and Royal are the two starting WR's instead of Royal and Gaffney.

.... I'd hate to think my job security was tied to some idiot malcontent that wouldn't honor a contract that he signed before I arrived.

LongDongJohnson
09-09-2009, 03:50 PM
rumors are he signed a 6 year deal.

lets hope its true.

HEAV
09-09-2009, 03:51 PM
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the Broncos have opened talks with Brandon Marshall about a contract extension.

--------

Got mixed feelings about this. His talent is worth it, but his attitude and police blog are huge red flags.

Will he F-up again and how bad will it be?

The deal should have protective verbage saving Denver from any of his BS.

lazarus4444
09-09-2009, 03:55 PM
I hope the broncos take care of themselves in this deal. This guy is a scumbag but i guess he's our scumbag NOW. We can only hope that he doesn't keep being a dumb ass.

NYBronco
09-09-2009, 03:57 PM
The deal is enhanced by the recent talent discovery of Marshall's punting ability.

Popps
09-09-2009, 04:05 PM
I just hope we don't blow our salary cap on this guy.


We've got a few key players with extensions coming due very quickly, and none of those players are in jeopardy of being suspended at any moment.

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 04:09 PM
I just hope we don't blow our salary cap on this guy.


We've got a few key players with extensions coming due very quickly, and none of those players are in jeopardy of being suspended at any moment.

Outside of the signing bonus, high salary figures are a good reason for him to keep his head on straight.

Rickity
09-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Please have a clause in his contract that if he screws up off field he pays through his nose to the team.

BroncoBuff
09-09-2009, 04:11 PM
A w e s o m e

HEAV
09-09-2009, 04:13 PM
I just hope we don't blow our salary cap on this guy.


We've got a few key players with extensions coming due very quickly, and none of those players are in jeopardy of being suspended at any moment.

Dumerville comes to mind and if he makes the transition to OLB...:strong:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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Popps
09-09-2009, 04:15 PM
Dumerville comes to mind and if he makes the transition to OLB...:strong:

-Eddie
-Ryan
-Doom


At some point, these guys have to be dealt with to keep them around.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-09-2009, 04:19 PM
-Eddie
-Ryan
-Doom


At some point, these guys have to be dealt with to keep them around.

Not to mention Eventual Starting Quarterback to be Named Later. Hilarious!

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 04:21 PM
-Eddie
-Ryan
-Doom


At some point, these guys have to be dealt with to keep them around.

Kuper and the other Ryan as well.

Bronx33
09-09-2009, 04:21 PM
I really hope brandon is listening though.

BroncoSojia
09-09-2009, 04:35 PM
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv258/Hsei/rkzuci.gif

Popps
09-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Kuper and the other Ryan as well.

Word.

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 04:42 PM
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http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/8/128679892870251417.jpg

TonyR
09-09-2009, 05:08 PM
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1251156233240.jpg

Um, what were we talking about again?

SureShot
09-09-2009, 05:10 PM
24861

footstepsfrom#27
09-09-2009, 05:13 PM
I can't decide it it's good news or bad.

SureShot
09-09-2009, 05:16 PM
Um, what were we talking about again?

We were talking about how she sucks and laundry and can't sew for ****.

Chris
09-09-2009, 05:19 PM
Who is that girl?

Popcorn Sutton
09-09-2009, 05:24 PM
I just saw Jason LaCanfora on NFL Network say that a Broncos official refuted these rumors.

DBroncos4life
09-09-2009, 05:38 PM
If false rumors was a stat we would be having a solid off-season.

HILife
09-09-2009, 05:41 PM
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1251156233240.jpg

ok, that's it, your going to have to tell me your secret. Is it a magic one liner, clean shave, good clothes? What is it!! Tell me!!!!! I need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

HILife
09-09-2009, 05:43 PM
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv258/Hsei/rkzuci.gif

:spit::spit:I wish we had sigs.

Bronx33
09-09-2009, 05:56 PM
ok, that's it, your going to have to tell me your secret. Is it a magic one liner, clean shave, good clothes? What is it!! Tell me!!!!! I need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's simple you just quit eating.

Boss Man
09-09-2009, 05:56 PM
knees to knobby would not hit...

HILife
09-09-2009, 06:04 PM
It's simple you just quit eating.

Done and done.

Rock Chalk
09-09-2009, 06:07 PM
Talk about a weird turn of events....per espn

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4459220

Haha first comment in the article:

"I'm going into work tomorrow and telling off the boss. Hopefully they send me home for a week and then double my salary. Wish me luck everyone!"

IHaveALight
09-09-2009, 06:28 PM
Just recently added to denverpost.com...

broncos
New deal for Marshall on hold
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 09/09/2009 07:07:59 PM MDT
Updated: 09/09/2009 07:15:27 PM MDT


Brandon Marshall. (John Leyba, The Denver Post)The Broncos are in a tough spot with their star receiver Brandon Marshall. They could use his talent and productivity. They're paying $2.198 million this year in return for his talent and productivity.

But they know Marshall is not happy with $2.198 million. Can he be productive if unhappy? The Broncos say they won't trade Marshall. Earlier in training camp, the Broncos submitted at least one contract proposal to Marshall, according to two NFL sources.

The proposal was considered to be team-favorable and was quickly rejected. Since that proposal, Marshall was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team.

Although Marshall's agent Kennard McGuire has maintained dialogue with the Broncos, the team is likely to wait to see how Marshall performs before it engages in serious discussions regarding a contract extension.

Marshall did not address the media on Tuesday or Wednesday.

UberBroncoMan
09-09-2009, 06:29 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3881100101_afc64b72d0_o.jpg

his punishment for acting like a baby

That looks like a toy model.

Boobs McGee
09-09-2009, 06:48 PM
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1251156233240.jpg

this

broncswin
09-09-2009, 06:50 PM
I want Marshall to get a deal and stay around so this is good to hear. The only problem I see is again they are showing they reward crying and acting like a child. First cutler acts childish and gets what he wants and now marshall is going to as well? This is the perfect way for our front office to make their jobs much harder. This is not sending a good message to all current and future Bronco players.

I think they gave him some pretty good punishment....he looked like a jacka$$ in front of the whole nation with his dumb@ss antics. I like what they are doing here...getting a deal done now after he took his punishment and moving on so that they can have a productive season.:thumbsup:

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 06:51 PM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg

oubronco
09-09-2009, 06:53 PM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg

she just needs to drop them there clothes ;D

Archer81
09-09-2009, 06:54 PM
ok, that's it, your going to have to tell me your secret. Is it a magic one liner, clean shave, good clothes? What is it!! Tell me!!!!! I need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://tinyurl.com/62pfqh


:Broncos:

fdf
09-09-2009, 07:02 PM
I think they gave him some pretty good punishment....he looked like a jacka$$ in front of the whole nation with his dumb@ss antics.

Jacka$$es usually don't know when they look like a jacka$$. They are almost always the last to know. That's part of the reason they jacka$$es.

TheReverend
09-09-2009, 07:03 PM
ok, that's it, your going to have to tell me your secret. Is it a magic one liner, clean shave, good clothes? What is it!! Tell me!!!!! I need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh that girls not mine man. Just saw the pic and thought it needed to be shared, lol

Ray Finkle
09-09-2009, 07:21 PM
Oh that girls not mine man. Just saw the pic and thought it needed to be shared, lol

yeah, if you look closely, you can see Rev standing on a buckey gazing in the window....you perv!;D

kent156
09-09-2009, 07:31 PM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg


paris hilton lookalike trying to get paid

ZONA
09-09-2009, 07:36 PM
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HILife
09-09-2009, 07:43 PM
http://tinyurl.com/62pfqh


:Broncos:

LOL LOL :giggle: I have no problems in that area.

HILife
09-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Oh that girls not mine man. Just saw the pic and thought it needed to be shared, lol

Thank god! I thought there was some secret out there people weren't telling me.

HILife
09-09-2009, 07:56 PM
paris hilton lookalike trying to get paid

She's better then paris. I've never really thought Paris was anything special.

BlaK-Argentina
09-09-2009, 09:04 PM
she just needs to drop them there clothes ;D

WAAAAYYY too much abs and not enough legs!! Just my opinion.

mr007
09-09-2009, 09:06 PM
WAAAAYYY too much abs and not enough legs!! Just my opinion.

Man she has perfect amount of abs. Great body..

Queue the black girl with the WTF eyes! Found it....

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2539/259deut.gif

scorpio
09-09-2009, 09:07 PM
WAAAAYYY too much abs and not enough legs!! Just my opinion.

http://imgur.com/FyXbe.jpg

BlaK-Argentina
09-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Man she has perfect amount of abs. Great body.

I think it's too much. I think this is perfect for abs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/danrocar/Pampita15.jpg

Not a lot, just enough. I don't think abs are sexy in a girl.

EDIT: Oops, pic didn't work. Here we go.

Dagmar
09-09-2009, 09:41 PM
I think it's too much. I think this is perfect for abs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/danrocar/Pampita15.jpg

Not a lot, just enough. I don't think abs are sexy in a girl.

EDIT: Oops, pic didn't work. Here we go.

http://blackmenvent.com/Zefram20Cochran20-20Sweet20Jesus.gif

worm
09-09-2009, 09:47 PM
Looks like she has sharp elbows.

BroncoMan4ever
09-09-2009, 09:51 PM
I just hope we don't blow our salary cap on this guy.


We've got a few key players with extensions coming due very quickly, and none of those players are in jeopardy of being suspended at any moment.

Doom and Kuper are the 2 i am most worried about losing. i think Doom is about to set the league on fire and Kuper is on his way to becoming the top young guard in the league

BlaK-Argentina
09-09-2009, 09:54 PM
http://blackmenvent.com/Zefram20Cochran20-20Sweet20Jesus.gif

There's "some" Photoshop in that pic but I met her and she's out of this freaking world.

BroncoMan4ever
09-09-2009, 09:56 PM
http://tinyurl.com/62pfqh


:Broncos:

my cock is bigger

Lev Vyvanse
09-09-2009, 10:03 PM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg

Tits or GTFO.

Broncos_OTM
09-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Dumerville comes to mind and if he makes the transition to OLB...:strong:

WTF A BRONCO FOR 3 years and you stilll cant spell his name:strong:

Rock Chalk
09-10-2009, 12:24 AM
I think it's too much. I think this is perfect for abs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/danrocar/Pampita15.jpg

Not a lot, just enough. I don't think abs are sexy in a girl.

EDIT: Oops, pic didn't work. Here we go.

There is a god and he loves him some Pampita15.jpg

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-10-2009, 06:49 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/victoriam2007/Seinfeld.gif%5B/IMG%5D

TailgateNut
09-10-2009, 07:13 AM
And next month when he gets a DUI or punches his girlfriend and is suspended for half the year half the board, including myself, will wonder why we catered to his demands. Give me a first round draft choice and be done with him.


I also have reservations about giving him a contract with no "protective clauses". If I had to bet, I'd put my money on him "****ing up again" during the season. The Good: He could be headline material for the sports pages, but he'll also make the front page for another stupid "move".

colonelbeef
09-10-2009, 07:35 AM
It's a shame that we didn't lose Marshall first for some picks, then take this approach with Cutler instead

Chris
09-10-2009, 08:11 AM
Who is the girl in the bathing suit? The glowing one.

BroncoMan4ever
09-10-2009, 10:59 AM
It's a shame that we didn't lose Marshall first for some picks, then take this approach with Cutler instead

**** Cutler. no pussies wanted for the team, especially at QB

dbfan21
09-10-2009, 11:13 AM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg

Nice, but does she have toe-shaped thumbs? :approve:

rastaman
09-10-2009, 12:19 PM
i agree. he probably isn't getting the same deal White got in Atlanta, but his incentives will give him the opportunity to make more money than White, while also safeguarding the team in case his antics re-occur

Brandon is still owed or should be paid bonus money for 07 and 08 b/c he out performed his contract during those years. Brandon won his court case for his legal problems in 07 and 08, so really Bowlen should simply pay Brandon performance bonuses for the last two seasons. Brandon would have been a happy camper for 09 if he stood to earn around 7 million if you include his 2.7 million salary for 09 and add another 5 million for his performances in 07 and 08.

As far as incentives going forward and contract extension, its highly unlikely Brandon achieves those incentives even if he keeps his nose clean and stays out of trouble, b/c of the lower quality QB's he has throwing him the ball and the new Offense McD has installed. Its likely the new Offense will take at least two years to take effect. A contract extension is not the same as a new contract.....so Brandon should only agree to a new contract.

Brandon would be smart to just play out his current contract in 09 and endure the RFA and URFA tags the Broncos have in their plans and see what the 2012 season offers.

Hercules Rockefeller
09-10-2009, 12:25 PM
So Bowlen should randomly establish a bonus figure to pay Marshall for '07 and '08? How would that affect Denver's obligations as to the salary cap for those seasons? Should someone like Moss for example, have to pay back the Broncos because he underperformed on his contract?

Please enlighten us as to the functional difference between an extension and a new contract since apparently you think he needs to agree to a new contract and not an extension.

Do you ever actually read what you write when you discuss things like $$$ and contract length before you hit "post"?

rastaman
09-10-2009, 12:50 PM
So Bowlen should randomly establish a bonus figure to pay Marshall for '07 and '08? How would that affect Denver's obligations as to the salary cap for those seasons? Should someone like Moss for example, have to pay back the Broncos because he underperformed on his contract?

Apples and oranges here. Am talking about a player who has out performed his contract the last two years and you're talking about a player that has under performed his contract. Stay focus---dude.

Please enlighten us as to the functional difference between an extension and a new contract since apparently you think he needs to agree to a new contract and not an extension.

True both mean the same. However, Brandon needs to ensure he goes over the Broncos contract extentsion with a keen eye and make sure its a Brandon friendly contract and not a team friendly contract. Both sides don't trust each other and believe the other is trying to rip one another off.

Do you ever actually read what you write when you discuss things like $$$ and contract length before you hit "post"?

You make a some valid points. However, what is ignored, Brandon out played his contract in 07 and 08.....did he not! It would be prudent of Bowlen to actually see what he could have afforded (cap wise) to compensate Brandon for 07 and 08. Bonuses are paid to players all the time when they out perform their contracts lets not act like this doesn't happen.

DenverBrit
09-10-2009, 12:53 PM
Premature?

New deal for Marshall on hold
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 09/09/2009 07:07:59 PM MDT
Updated: 09/09/2009 07:25:30 PM MDT


The Broncos are in a tough spot with Brandon Marshall. They could use his talent and productivity. They're paying $2.198 million this year in return for his talent and productivity.

But they know Marshall is not happy with $2.198 million. He's asked to be traded. Can he be productive if unhappy? Earlier in training camp, the Broncos submitted at least one contract proposal to Marshall, according to two NFL sources.

The proposal was considered to be team-favorable and was quickly rejected. Since that proposal, Marshall was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team.

Several NFL executives and agents say they expect the Broncos to wait to see how Marshall performs before they engage in serious discussions regarding a contract extension.

Marshall did not address the media on Tuesday or Wednesday.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_13302182#

BlaK-Argentina
09-10-2009, 12:54 PM
Who is the girl in the bathing suit? The glowing one.

Carolina "Pampita" Ardohain.


I think giving Marshall a new contract is the right choice IF (and only IF) the team protects itself against Marshall's idiocy. If Brandon doesn't want to sign that kind of contract then we should try to trade him for something next year.

I heard people say that it would be difficult for the Broncos to protect themselves if they did give Marshall a new contract... but why would that be? I have zero clues on how NFL contracts are written.

Beantown Bronco
09-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Bonuses are paid to players all the time when they out perform their contracts lets not act like this doesn't happen.

This couldn't be more false.

If it's not written into the original contract, an owner can't simply give a guy a "XMas bonus" just because he wants to. The league simply doesn't allow this. The owner would have to give him an extension or would have to literally rip up the current contract and give him a new one with a new bonus entirely.

rastaman
09-10-2009, 12:59 PM
This couldn't be more false.

If it's not written into the original contract, an owner can't simply give a guy a "XMas bonus" just because he wants to. The league simply doesn't allow this. The owner would have to give him an extension or would have to literally rip up the current contract and give him a new one with a new bonus entirely.

Well there you go! Why hasn't Bowlen found a way to compenstate Marshall with in the NFL rules???

gyldenlove
09-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Well there you go! Why hasn't Bowlen found a way to compenstate Marshall with in the NFL rules???

Such a way exists, it is called contract extension.

DenverBrit
09-10-2009, 01:07 PM
You make a some valid points. [B]However, what is ignored, Brandon out played his contract in 07 and 08.....did he not! It would be prudent of Bowlen to actually see what he could have afforded (cap wise) to compensate Brandon for 07 and 08. Bonuses are paid to players all the time when they out perform their contracts lets not act like this doesn't happen

He outperformed the 'morals clause' by a wide margin and has become one big liability!

15 times the Police have met with Brandon the last five years, making a new deal a huge risk without some way to back-load the contract.

Popcorn Sutton
09-10-2009, 01:10 PM
You make a some valid points. However, what is ignored, Brandon out played his contract in 07 and 08.....did he not! It would be prudent of Bowlen to actually see what he could have afforded (cap wise) to compensate Brandon for 07 and 08. Bonuses are paid to players all the time when they out perform their contracts lets not act like this doesn't happen.

Let's break this down.

Q: Why did Brandon Marshall get drafted in the 4th round?
A: Off the field issues in college. Note: Before Denver

Q: What would have happened if Brandon kept his nose clean in college?
A: He would have been drafted much higher and made a LOT more money.

Q: Did the Broncos take a risk in drafting Brandon Marshall?
A: Yes

Q: Are the Broncos to blame for Brandon Marshall receiving 4th round money instead of 1st round money?
A: No, Brandon is responsible for his actions

Q: Did Brandon Marshall do anything to squash the high-risk label from college?
A: No

Q: Do players in the NFL often play out their entire first contract?
A: Yes

Q: Are NFL teams able to protect themselves against large guaranteed money contracts if a player can't stay out of trouble?
A: Yes, but it's more like a poke in the eye. See Denver Post article.

Q: Has Brandon Marshall outperformed his contract on the field?
A: Absolutely

Q: Since Brandon has played at such a high-level, why aren't teams beating down the Broncos doors and offereing at least a first round pick for him.
A: Because these teams also realize the inherent risk in signing a guy who has done nothing to prove he can stay out of handcuffs.

Q: If Brandon Marshall keeps his nose clean this year and plays well, will he get his big pay day?
A: Yes, if not in Denver he'll get it somewhere.

rastaman
09-10-2009, 01:15 PM
He outperformed the 'morals clause' by a wide margin and has become one big liability!

15 times the Police have met with Brandon the last five years, making a new deal a huge risk without some way to back-load the contract.

Can you back load the contract the contract and guarantee it should Bmarsh not get into anymore trouble? Back loaded contracts minus the signing bonus are rarely paid out by teams any way.

rastaman
09-10-2009, 01:18 PM
Let's break this down.

Q: Why did Brandon Marshall get drafted in the 4th round?
A: Off the field issues in college. Note: Before Denver

Q: What would have happened if Brandon kept his nose clean in college?
A: He would have been drafted much higher and made a LOT more money.

Q: Did the Broncos take a risk in drafting Brandon Marshall?
A: Yes

Q: Are the Broncos to blame for Brandon Marshall receiving 4th round money instead of 1st round money?
A: No, Brandon is responsible for his actions

Q: Did Brandon Marshall do anything to squash the high-risk label from college?
A: No

Q: Do players in the NFL often play out their entire first contract?
A: Yes

Q: Are NFL teams able to protect themselves against large guaranteed money contracts if a player can't stay out of trouble?
A: Yes, but it's more like a poke in the eye. See Denver Post article.

Q: Has Brandon Marshall outperformed his contract on the field?
A: Absolutely

Q: Since Brandon has played at such a high-level, why aren't teams beating down the Broncos doors and offereing at least a first round pick for him.
A: Because these teams also realize the inherent risk in signing a guy who has done nothing to prove he can stay out of handcuffs.

Q: If Brandon Marshall keeps his nose clean this year and plays well, will he get his big pay day?
A: Yes, if not in Denver he'll get it somewhere.

Brew, fair enough argument and great job.

DenverBrit
09-10-2009, 01:42 PM
Brew, fair enough argument and great job.

+1 :thumbsup:

DenverBrit
09-10-2009, 01:49 PM
Can you back load the contract the contract and guarantee it should Bmarsh not get into anymore trouble? Back loaded contracts minus the signing bonus are rarely paid out by teams any way.

Unfortunately, contracts that allow teams to recover money when a 'morals' clause is violated are almost impossible to structure.

I believe the max they can recoup is approx $700,000 to $800,000.

FireFly
09-10-2009, 04:43 PM
I want Marshall to get a deal and stay around so this is good to hear. The only problem I see is again they are showing they reward crying and acting like a child. First cutler acts childish and gets what he wants and now marshall is going to as well? This is the perfect way for our front office to make their jobs much harder. This is not sending a good message to all current and future Bronco players.

But at least he isn't holding out. He's back at practice without a new deal. He'll be suiting up Sunday with or without a new deal (if I'm not mistaken). At least its something; as in he's only getting a new deal now - after he's started doing the right thing.

JJJ
09-10-2009, 10:12 PM
Pay the man.

All good receivers seem to be head cases. Don't think the next fleet of them is going to improve in this regard. The next one will probably be just as dopey but half the player.

ScottXray
09-10-2009, 11:03 PM
Pay the man.

All good receivers seem to be head cases. Don't think the next fleet of them is going to improve in this regard. The next one will probably be just as dopey but half the player.

The next one is already here....Drafted By SF #1 and he already is holding out cause he thinks he should have been top 5 and wants to be paid that way..


CRABTREE...Idjit!

ZONA
09-10-2009, 11:11 PM
I would pay him for sure. He is a beast of a WR and he won't be getting insane money. Yeah there is risk but there is risk with every player, it's called an injury. Marshall isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, we all know that but I think he's smart enough to know his NFL rope is shorter then it used to be. You just have to roll the dice and hope for the best. If we were a power running team like the years before, maybe you could look somewhere else but it seems like in this spread offense, you really want to have a guy like him on the field. Can you imagine some of those nice quick screen passes to him? He's got the strength to break tackles or make people miss and turn it up for some big yards.

baja
09-11-2009, 06:39 AM
Pay Marshall now, he is never going to be cheeper after a year in McDs offense he will demand and get (somewhere) much more.

rastaman
09-11-2009, 06:39 AM
I would pay him for sure. He is a beast of a WR and he won't be getting insane money. Yeah there is risk but there is risk with every player, it's called an injury. Marshall isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, we all know that but I think he's smart enough to know his NFL rope is shorter then it used to be. You just have to roll the dice and hope for the best. If we were a power running team like the years before, maybe you could look somewhere else but it seems like in this spread offense, you really want to have a guy like him on the field. Can you imagine some of those nice quick screen passes to him? He's got the strength to break tackles or make people miss and turn it up for some big yards.

Most importantly for the remainder of Brandon's career he needs to play smart from here on out. Brandons goals should be productivity and longevity. Making people miss---will prolong his career! Breaking tackles will invite wear and tear on his body thus shortening his career. Brandon will earn more money over a longer playing career of lets 12-15 years.

Brandon need not play with allowing opposing tacklers to take unnecessary shots at his body and getting tackled or breaking tackles of two or three players. Brandon's job is to run precise routs, catch the catchables passes, and utilizing his size, height and agility on shorter CB's. It will be up to his QB's and offensives schemes and play calling to put Bmarsh in positions to be most effective.

errand
09-13-2009, 07:28 AM
The deal is enhanced by the recent talent discovery of Marshall's punting ability.

LOL Not to mention his ability to knock down passes...so perhaps we have even more depth in our secondary?LOL

errand
09-13-2009, 07:36 AM
Brandon would be smart to just play out his current contract in 09 and endure the RFA and URFA tags the Broncos have in their plans and see what the 2012 season offers.

...unfortunately for us...he isn't.

errand
09-13-2009, 07:42 AM
This couldn't be more false.

If it's not written into the original contract, an owner can't simply give a guy a "XMas bonus" just because he wants to. The league simply doesn't allow this. The owner would have to give him an extension or would have to literally rip up the current contract and give him a new one with a new bonus entirely.

I recall when Rick Parros had a clause that would pay him a $100,000 bonus if he rushed for 750 or more yards...he ended the season with 749. He was shocked the Broncos didn't pay him the money....

I think Mr. Deeds said it best when the QB asked for more money after having a good season..."So, if you suck this season do we get our money back?"

See, contracts protect the players as well as the owners.

errand
09-13-2009, 07:44 AM
He outperformed the 'morals clause' by a wide margin and has become one big liability!

15 times the Police have met with Brandon the last five years, making a new deal a huge risk without some way to back-load the contract.

...and yet amazingly, some on here think that this isn't a problem....eh, Rastaman?

NYBronco
09-13-2009, 07:47 AM
LOL Not to mention his ability to knock down passes...so perhaps we have even more depth in our secondary?LOL

He has proven flexibility and talents to play pass defense.
Now if he could just have a little self control he could be an assest to both himself and whatever team he plays for.

broncswin
09-13-2009, 08:04 AM
...and yet amazingly, some on here think that this isn't a problem....eh, Rastaman?

actually rastaman just agreed about being wrong in some regards to brewcrew's above post, which in these times on the Mane is amazing.:thumbsup:

fatbronco
09-13-2009, 08:15 AM
Mort reported this morning on ESPN radio that before the Pro Bowl, Shanny told Cutler to be prepared because he was going to flat cut Brandon Marshall after the Pro Bowl. Not trade him, cut him, and that Cutler should be prepared. Shanny was fired the next day, not due to wanting to cut Marshall.

Mort said that Shanny believed Marshall lost them more games than he won for them. Wow, anyone else hear that? If that is the case, it's just illustrates (IMO) how bad things had gotten. Not to add fuel to any existing fires, but I'm glad we've turned the page.

broncswin
09-13-2009, 08:18 AM
Mort reported this morning on ESPN radio that before the Pro Bowl, Shanny told Cutler to be prepared because he was going to flat cut Brandon Marshall after the Pro Bowl. Not trade him, cut him, and that Cutler should be prepared. Shanny was fired the next day, not due to wanting to cut Marshall.

Mort said that Shanny believed Marshall lost them more games than he won for them. Wow, anyone else hear that? If that is the case, it's just illustrates (IMO) how bad things had gotten. Not to add fuel to any existing fires, but I'm glad we've turned the page.

Wow...sounds like a girls locker room.

rastaman
09-13-2009, 08:27 AM
...and yet amazingly, some on here think that this isn't a problem....eh, Rastaman?

There's no morality out on the football field especially in a pile up....let alone trying to avoid getting your head knocked off during any stretch of the game or season.

By the way, the owners need no protection from the contract(s) they sign players to b/c owning an NFL franchise is a cash cow. An NFL owner need not worry having their wealth or team taken from them b/c they can't put a winner out on the field aka Detroit Lions. An NFL owners window of opportunity is endless for making money continuously.

However, a players window of opportunity is very limited at best. So I have no empathy for the risk owners take with player contracts. Bowlen needs to quit playing "Who's Boss" or King of The Mountain and just pay Marshall.

Take the freaking risk Pat Bowlen......afterall your players who wear the Bronco uniform take RISK every sunday with injuries both season and career ending. Its time for Bowlen to take some FINANCIAL RISK and PAY THE BROTHA!!:afro:

rastaman
09-13-2009, 08:35 AM
Mort reported this morning on ESPN radio that before the Pro Bowl, Shanny told Cutler to be prepared because he was going to flat cut Brandon Marshall after the Pro Bowl. Not trade him, cut him, and that Cutler should be prepared. Shanny was fired the next day, not due to wanting to cut Marshall.

Mort said that Shanny believed Marshall lost them more games than he won for them. Wow, anyone else hear that? If that is the case, it's just illustrates (IMO) how bad things had gotten. Not to add fuel to any existing fires, but I'm glad we've turned the page.

Good Read. Thats absolutlely amazing b/c Shanny was willing to let go of Marshall but keep Slowick? I think Slowick lost more games defensively than Marshall lost offensively.

fdf
09-13-2009, 08:36 AM
Take the freaking risk Pat Bowlen......afterall your players who wear the Bronco uniform take RISK every sunday with injuries both season and career ending. Its time for Bowlen to take some FINANCIAL RISK and PAY THE BROTHA!!:afro:

Well, that's the way Shanahan handled free agency. And it got us IHOP, Carter, and other talented, head-cases. They got their payday.

I just hope BM keeps his head down and has a good season. At that point, we can trade him and get some value, he can get his payday, and we can get the cancer out of our locker room.

Whoever he gets the payday from is going to lose most of their investment, imho. Let it be another team.

rastaman
09-13-2009, 08:42 AM
Well, that's the way Shanahan handled free agency. And it got us IHOP, Carter, and other talented, head-cases. They got their payday.

I just hope BM keeps his head down and has a good season. At that point, we can trade him and get some value, he can get his payday, and we can get the cancer out of our locker room.

Whoever he gets the payday from is going to lose most of their investment, imho. Let it be another team.

Like I said, "Its Only Money" and owners can afford it. You can't take it all with you when you die.

fatbronco
09-13-2009, 08:43 AM
Good Read. Thats absolutlely amazing b/c Shanny was willing to let go of Marshall but keep Slowick? I think Slowick lost more games defensively than Marshall lost offensively.

Couldn't agree more, but it was Shanny who got him all those players who now find themselves out of the NFL completely. I loved Shanahan when Elway was here and there is no doubt he knows football. If I were guessing, I'd say he wanted out and he probably orchestrated it (not firining Slowick). I think he looked at the mess he was responsible for and realized there was no easy fix.

GoBroncos84
09-13-2009, 08:46 AM
Since this has gone over well, have some more guys

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp69/marcusd1101/Fitness/1249238128843.jpg

Looks like Stacy Keibler...