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epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2009, 09:58 AM
I would say that the offensive line is a strength, but only in terms of pass blocking right now. The team is still struggling to get yards on the ground.

The only element of the systems on either side of the ball that seem to be having any success are the corners/safeties and the offensive line.

What say you?

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2009, 10:00 AM
I would say that the offensive line is a strength, but only in terms of pass blocking right now. The team is still struggling to get yards on the ground.

The only element of the systems on either side of the ball that seem to be having any success are the corners/safeties and the offensive line.

What say you?

The fans and home field advantage used to be a real strenght of this franchise... guess that's not the case any more too...

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2009, 10:03 AM
The fans and home field advantage used to be a real strenght of this franchise... guess that's not the case any more too...

I dont think thats the case. Cutler got boo'ed quite effusely yesterday, despite the common knowledge that the instigator of the situation was McDaniels and his pursuit of Cassell.

Its pretty clear that the fans are upset about the whole thing and that Cutler (seeing as Denver is a QB-centric city) is the focus of all the angst.

But back to the point...what are the strengths of these Denver Broncos? What will they be during the season?

bronco militia
08-31-2009, 10:05 AM
I would say that the offensive line is a strength, but only in terms of pass blocking right now. The team is still struggling to get yards on the ground.



What say you?

they don't seem to have too many problems when Hillis is in.

lex
08-31-2009, 10:05 AM
I dont think thats the case. Cutler got boo'ed quite effusely yesterday, despite the common knowledge that the instigator of the situation was McDaniels and his pursuit of Cassell.

Its pretty clear that the fans are upset about the whole thing and that Cutler (seeing as Denver is a QB-centric city) is the focus of all the angst.

But back to the point...what are the strengths of these Denver Broncos? What will they be during the season?


Thats definitely true that the fans are angry. And that anger will soon be turned toward McDaniels and Orton once again.

atomicbloke
08-31-2009, 10:07 AM
The Punters seem really good.....

Dukes
08-31-2009, 10:11 AM
We still have hot cheerleaders

WolfpackGuy
08-31-2009, 10:12 AM
The QB's have the strength of smell.

TheReverend
08-31-2009, 10:13 AM
The Punters seem really good.....

This.

When they're not getting blocked, at least

Beantown Bronco
08-31-2009, 10:15 AM
My adopt a bronco is bouncing back nicely after a tough end of the season. Perfect on fgs and extra points and has 3 touchbacks. :strong::egbgb:

SonOfLe-loLang
08-31-2009, 10:21 AM
I dont think thats the case. Cutler got boo'ed quite effusely yesterday, despite the common knowledge that the instigator of the situation was McDaniels and his pursuit of Cassell.

Its pretty clear that the fans are upset about the whole thing and that Cutler (seeing as Denver is a QB-centric city) is the focus of all the angst.

But back to the point...what are the strengths of these Denver Broncos? What will they be during the season?

I dont think you can effusively boo

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2009, 10:22 AM
My adopt a bronco is bouncing back nicely after a tough end of the season. Perfect on fgs and extra points and has 3 touchbacks. :strong::egbgb:

He is kicking quite well, this is true.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2009, 10:24 AM
they don't seem to have too many problems when Hillis is in.

For some reason, McD has been reluctant to run Hillis with the first team. Hillis is clearly the top option with Moreno out. He is versatile, and we all know how tough he is to bring down.

I guess the question with Hillis is why he hasnt been getting the ball much.

Beantown Bronco
08-31-2009, 10:27 AM
For some reason, McD has been reluctant to run Hillis with the first team. Hillis is clearly the top option with Moreno out. He is versatile, and we all know how tough he is to bring down.

I guess the question with Hillis is why he hasnt been getting the ball much.

Well, considering they literally only ran the ball 8 times in the entire first half yesterday, I think it's safe to say that Hillis isn't the only RB not getting the ball very much.

Natedog24
08-31-2009, 10:28 AM
Our offensive line is awesome but outside of that, its tough to say. I still think Denver has a pretty solid secondary with Champ/Goodman at CB and now especially with a good veteran SS in Dawkins.

And if our backs can ever stay healthy I think Moreno/Hillis is a pretty darn good running/receiving tandom out of the back field. Outside of that Doom has looked pretty good this preseason and we have one really awesome WR in Royal...

bronco militia
08-31-2009, 10:29 AM
down and distance determines how the team uses the running game.

but I was very disappointed in the play calling . I think the Broncos called a running play on every 1st and 10

NFLBRONCO
08-31-2009, 10:30 AM
OL Great
RB- Healthy Moreno and Hillis Great
WR- Royal Great Stokley good Gaffney good
TE- Blocking great catching ok
QB- Yuck

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:37 AM
Our Tackling is a 100 times improved that alone give me hope that McD is a Coach .

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:37 AM
also I like the work he has done with our young QB !

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:39 AM
OL Great
RB- Healthy Moreno and Hillis Great
WR- Royal Great Stokley good Gaffney good
TE- Blocking great catching ok
QB- Yuck

not fare! our young QB looked damn fine yesterday .

Ambiguous
08-31-2009, 10:39 AM
Long snapping!

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:41 AM
I am glad the Leauge is kind of pick on our Oline....

anthonypacino
08-31-2009, 10:41 AM
Our line is a strentgh but it's not the type of line that McD wants, running all these screens and such force our guys into space which will cause more injuries, guys rolling up on them from behind and such, more penalties and running out so much they will get gassed earlier and not be able to let us pound the ball late in the game to burn clock and hold the lead, but it's not looking like we will have many leads to hold on to this season.

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:41 AM
makes them clean up there BS

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:44 AM
Our line is a strentgh but it's not the type of line that McD wants, running all these screens and such force our guys into space which will cause more injuries, guys rolling up on them from behind and such, more penalties and running out so much they will get gassed earlier and not be able to let us pound the ball late in the game to burn clock and hold the lead, but it's not looking like we will have many leads to hold on to this season.

true but only to a point . in the end this is the preseason and it being the preseason you theach all your guys there weak parts of there game an I see that going on .

NFLBRONCO
08-31-2009, 10:44 AM
not fare! our young QB looked damn fine yesterday .

Why I said, yuck with QB is Orton and Simms. Tom B looked good I agree but, I'd like to groom him a year before he starts. Who knows if its ugly by midseason we might see him this year.

bronco militia
08-31-2009, 10:45 AM
also I like the work he has done with our young QB !

W..T.. F..?

if not for the injuries, Brandstater should be worried about making this roster

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:46 AM
this team as a whole is going the right way other than QB and our young rookie QB just might make all Bronco fans smile .

lex
08-31-2009, 10:50 AM
A better thread title would have been, "Have the Broncos Been DisemBowlened?"

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:51 AM
W..T.. F..?

if not for the injuries, Brandstater should be worried about making this roster

The coach was sand bagging the kid to get him on the practice squad you could tell that was going on now when sims was going to be out for some time the play calling changed big time .. I am glad that was the case and you can tell.

azbroncfan
08-31-2009, 10:52 AM
DL has improved just with the subtraction of Engelberger. Now to call it a strength would be a stretch.

RaiderH8r
08-31-2009, 10:56 AM
They run out of the tunnel nicely.

~Crash~
08-31-2009, 10:58 AM
A better thread title would have been, "Have the Broncos Been DisemBowlened?"

Lex you are not that off with all that has went on during the off season but damn there is a lot of good thing going on as well.

I have gotten a lot of flack for telling the truth around this joint. you guys are all on one side or the other . **** that is BS . for one there is always two sides.

lex
08-31-2009, 11:06 AM
Lex you are not that off with all that has went on during the off season but damn there is a lot of good thing going on as well.

I have gotten a lot of flack for telling the truth around this joint. you guys are all on one side or the other . **** that is BS . for one there is always two sides.


Thats not true. I havent been totally negative but I expect to win and Im not lowering my expectations. A lot of people expect to win after all the tumult. Thats just the reality. And so when I ratchet it up a couple of notches in terms of pointing out how this is absolute failure or absolute victory, thats just the truth and, though people like to bitch about it, its the truth.

uplink
08-31-2009, 11:11 AM
strength = controversy

They just need to learn how to harness this weapon to win games.
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azbroncfan
08-31-2009, 11:15 AM
They are very strong at committing penalties.

Bronco Yoda
08-31-2009, 12:29 PM
We suck from the ground up..... everyone happy now?

Cheer up gloomy campers.

broncswin
08-31-2009, 12:48 PM
I think we look much improved in many areas: Defense all around looks better, SPECIAL TEAMS much better, running game looks as good maybe a little better( too early), offense looks not so much better, hopefully with the running game doing well, it will help out the pass game.

Any one that would rag on Tommy B is crazy, the guy only had minimal work before last nights game. You could tell that after a few pass attemps he got into the flow, yes he did lead them to a td against the 1st string d, running alot or not, he made it happen. I was very pleased with him, should he be starting??? NOT YET.

Bigdawg26
08-31-2009, 12:51 PM
We found the perfect position for Elvis Dumervil and Baker and Dawkins looked really well. Outside of that I don't really know of one.. Outside of our O-line.

Beantown Bronco
08-31-2009, 12:51 PM
running game looks as good maybe a little better

You must've missed the first half of last night's game.

broncswin
08-31-2009, 01:16 PM
You must've missed the first half of last night's game.

No Beannie, I saw the whole game, Hillis looks very good, we were missing Kuper for over a quarter in the 1st half and did a good job of running the ball, once we got into the flow. I think the return of Knowshon will be huge for us. Don't forget, the Bears front line is very good and they were bring the blitz every play with atleast one LB, sometimes two. We found that attacking them to the outside caught them in a couple of blitzes, they back off and we pretty much ran it down their throat for the 2nd quarter td.

Beantown Bronco
08-31-2009, 01:24 PM
No Beannie, I saw the whole game, Hillis looks very good, we were missing Kuper for over a quarter in the 1st half and did a good job of running the ball, once we got into the flow. I think the return of Knowshon will be huge for us. Don't forget, the Bears front line is very good and they were bring the blitz every play with atleast one LB, sometimes two. We found that attacking them to the outside caught them in a couple of blitzes, they back off and we pretty much ran it down their throat for the 2nd quarter td.

ummm, first half = 8 carries for 9 yards. That's what I'm talking about. That is not the definition of "improved" running game.

I think you mean 2nd half...not 2nd quarter in your last sentence. Once Chicago starters started leaving at the half, I stop analyzing except for depth purposes.

Bronco Yoda
08-31-2009, 01:33 PM
It was good to see buckhalter still has that get-around-the-edge speed. Too bad his body won't allow for him to be a feature back... he just wouldn't hold up. But he's good to have in the rotation.

Again.... besides the Hester runback, our Special Teams is playing better than they have in years.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2009, 02:44 PM
They run out of the tunnel nicely.

Ha!

They also enthusiastically encouraged the fans to boo.

BossBruce
08-31-2009, 03:03 PM
DL has improved just with the subtraction of Engelberger. Now to call it a strength would be a stretch.

I don't post much. Pretty much a reader...

But this was the funniest shh I've read in a long time.

Hilarious and true.

bendog
08-31-2009, 03:08 PM
The coach looks intimidating in a hoody.

RaiderH8r
09-01-2009, 07:02 AM
Ha!

They also enthusiastically encouraged the fans to boo.

Indeed, the often neglected "Neener Neener you've got no weiner" gameplan. Rarely used and with good reason it would seem. Apparently actually fielding talented, well coached players beats the Neener neener plan every time. The beating the weiner plan is good old fashioned fun though.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-01-2009, 07:30 AM
I dont think thats the case. Cutler got boo'ed quite effusely yesterday, despite the common knowledge that the instigator of the situation was McDaniels and his pursuit of Cassell.



I was at the game. I don't think it's "common knowledge" that Mcdaniels was the instigator. In fact, the only folks supporting Cutler's bitch ass were Bears fans.

Despite what you want to believe Skillet, most people at that game weren't blaming Cutler because it was convenient. They were blaming him because he's a bitch who whined his way out of town.

Also: Where's the proof, even a sliver of proof, that McDaniels "tried to trade" for Cassel? Answering a phone call is not "trying to trade" someone. Even making a counter-offer isn't "trying to trade" someone.

Demanding a trade is demanding a trade, though.

vancejohnson82
09-01-2009, 07:39 AM
I was at the game. I don't think it's "common knowledge" that Mcdaniels was the instigator. In fact, the only folks supporting Cutler's b**** ass were Bears fans.

Despite what you want to believe Skillet, most people at that game weren't blaming Cutler because it was convenient. They were blaming him because he's a b**** who whined his way out of town.

Also: Where's the proof, even a sliver of proof, that McDaniels "tried to trade" for Cassel? Answering a phone call is not "trying to trade" someone. Even making a counter-offer isn't "trying to trade" someone.

Demanding a trade is demanding a trade, though.


I can't believe you still have the energy to argue about JayGate....I'm totally worn out from defending the coach and the team's decision making. FOr years Broncos fans talked about guys like TO like they were the plague because they have crappy attitudes. Then our "franchise" QB turns out to be a whiner and everybody turns on the frsnchise

RaiderH8r
09-01-2009, 07:39 AM
I was at the game. I don't think it's "common knowledge" that Mcdaniels was the instigator. In fact, the only folks supporting Cutler's b**** ass were Bears fans.

Despite what you want to believe Skillet, most people at that game weren't blaming Cutler because it was convenient. They were blaming him because he's a b**** who whined his way out of town.

Also: Where's the proof, even a sliver of proof, that McDaniels "tried to trade" for Cassel? Answering a phone call is not "trying to trade" someone. Even making a counter-offer isn't "trying to trade" someone.

Demanding a trade is demanding a trade, though.

Lil Hoodie's own words were that he was "late to the game" with respect to moving for Cassell. The clear indication was that he wanted to be involved with a trade for his beloved backup. He came late to the game, by his own admission, allowed word of that to leak out pissing off his starter, then he managed to mangle that relationship into a trade demand and finally buckled like a cheap f'ing belt and caved to it. Nice exercise of thought and authority peckerhead. Bottom line is little hoodie doesn't have the temperament or the people skills to manage a club. He can do fine with his cliques on offense but a broad plan to skipper the ship just isn't in the cards for him right now because little hoodie is spending his time and effort convincing little hoodie that little hoodie is in charge and deserves respect. What a petulent little douche.

DrFate
09-01-2009, 07:48 AM
Their uniforms are very clean when the game starts... Kudos to the cleaning crew!

footstepsfrom#27
09-01-2009, 07:53 AM
O-lline...but then Kuper got hurt so we'll have to see how that plays out. I think when Moreno gets back he and Hillis willmake a nice 1-2 punch...TE is strong, CB looks pretty good shape. After that it gets dicey.

jhns
09-01-2009, 07:53 AM
I can't believe you still have the energy to argue about JayGate....I'm totally worn out from defending the coach and the team's decision making. FOr years Broncos fans talked about guys like TO like they were the plague because they have crappy attitudes. Then our "franchise" QB turns out to be a whiner and everybody turns on the frsnchise

Every SB team of the last 25 years has had these types of players. Our SB teams had immature/childish players and guys with horrible attitudes. Football is not a social club. People need to get over thenselves and stop acting like football is some sissy sport. If a guy gets his feelings hurt by another player then he needs to be told to man up.

Since when did dumb athletes have to have the right personality? I can see staying away from trouble makers with goodell in charge. I don't get the rest of these arguments.

I think now is the time someone points out a winning team run like this. Even new england me-firt players and a-holes. Is this new feminine approach to building a team serious?

"Who cares if the team is far worse, it is time to teach these guys a lesson. Let's do that by sending them to a much bigger market on a much better team. We really showed that guy!" Meanwhile the people who root for the broncos because they like football now have to eatch an inferior product. Way to show him!

vancejohnson82
09-01-2009, 07:58 AM
Every SB team of the last 25 years has had these types of players. Our SB teams had immature/childish players and guys with horrible attitudes. Football is not a social club. People need to get over thenselves and stop acting like football is some sissy sport. If a guy gets his feelings hurt by another player then he needs to be told to man up.

Since when did dumb athletes have to have the right personality? I can see staying away from trouble makers with goodell in charge. I don't get the rest of these arguments.

I think now is the time someone points out a winning team run like this. Even new england me-firt players and a-holes. Is this new feminine approach to building a team serious?

"Who cares if the team is far worse, it is time to teach these guys a lesson. Let's do that by sending them to a much bigger market on a much better team. We really showed that guy!" Meanwhile the people who root for the broncos because they like football now have to eatch an inferior product. Way to show him!

so you say that "football is not a sissy sport" and that "sometimes a player needs to be told to man up"

Isn't that EXACTLY what the organization tried to do with Cutler? Yes...and then he DIDN'T man up and we shipped him out. You don't win with guys like that being the heart and soul of your football team

jhns
09-01-2009, 08:04 AM
so you say that "football is not a sissy sport" and that "sometimes a player needs to be told to man up"

Isn't that EXACTLY what the organization tried to do with Cutler? Yes...and then he DIDN'T man up and we shipped him out. You don't win with guys like that being the heart and soul of your football team

That entire argument is going to look pretty retarded when chicago is winning a lot more than this team.

No they didn't tell him to man up. They started acting like children right along with him. That is actually the best part of the supporters. You all argue that we can't have that type of player as you talk about how we need to support the front office that does the same thing. Sad.

vancejohnson82
09-01-2009, 08:12 AM
That entire argument is going to look pretty retarded when chicago is winning a lot more than this team.

No they didn't tell him to man up. They started acting like children right along with him. That is actually the best part of the supporters. You all argue that we can't have that type of player as you talk about how we need to support the front office that does the same thing. Sad.

I don't see how requesting a meeting one on one with a player is acting childish. Sucking your thumb and refusing to meet without your agent is as pretty close to being a "sissy" as it gets

we'll see how the season goes....the worst part about the Cutler supporters is that they've already come to the conclusion that our season is a waste and CHicago is in the SUper Bowl....

jhns
09-01-2009, 08:20 AM
I don't see how requesting a meeting one on one with a player is acting childish. Sucking your thumb and refusing to meet without your agent is as pretty close to being a "sissy" as it gets

we'll see how the season goes....the worst part about the Cutler supporters is that they've already come to the conclusion that our season is a waste and CHicago is in the SUper Bowl....

Chicago will be good and this team will be bad. Use your head for 5 seconds and you could see that.

footstepsfrom#27
09-01-2009, 08:21 AM
There's a reason nobody else has ever traded a 26 year old franchize QB, and it's not because they were all nice guys or mature human beings. Reeves fought tooth and nail with Elway most of the time he was here, and even took the step of firing Shanahan for allegedly cooking up his own plays with John.

RaiderH8r
09-01-2009, 08:23 AM
I don't see how requesting a meeting one on one with a player is acting childish. Sucking your thumb and refusing to meet without your agent is as pretty close to being a "sissy" as it gets

we'll see how the season goes....the worst part about the Cutler supporters is that they've already come to the conclusion that our season is a waste and CHicago is in the SUper Bowl....

Bull****. Lil' Hoodie created the environment of mistrust and having your legal representative in the room is absolutely the right move. First it is a dispassionate third party that can speak on your behalf to make sure you don't say something stupid due to anger or frustration. Second, if you've got a lawyer or representative why wouldn't you use all the tools in your kit?

Hoodie and Bowlen getting all butthurty egos and then doing dumb **** because they need to let the world and themselves know who's got the bigger dick, consequences be damned, is really the saddest part of this whole saga.

Beantown Bronco
09-01-2009, 08:26 AM
Sucking your thumb and refusing to meet without your agent is as pretty close to being a "sissy" as it gets


If you met with your boss in January to go over some VERY important issues, and then in March, your boss denied ever meeting with you, wouldn't you make it a point to have a witness on hand the next time you met with them?

vancejohnson82
09-01-2009, 08:29 AM
If you met with your boss in January to go over some VERY important issues, and then in March, your boss denied ever meeting with you, wouldn't you make it a point to have a witness on hand the next time you met with them?

once again, the "real life" examples don't work in this case. If Cutler were an employee he would be suspended without pay for not showing up to work and not answering his calls. He would probably be fired too, then have to sit out for a year due to the "non compete" agreement he signed

Beantown Bronco
09-01-2009, 08:30 AM
once again, the "real life" examples don't work in this case. If Cutler were an employee he would be suspended without pay for not showing up to work and not answering his calls. He would probably be fired too, then have to sit out for a year due to the "non compete" agreement he signed

But he DID show up for work. He never missed a single day of work.