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steeledude
08-28-2009, 05:54 PM
It's like every sports caster and message board poster has to use this word now. I hear it about four times a week, and it is quickly becoming the new "classy" of the sports world.

Why do we latch onto these words? Do they make us sound smart? Marshall is a petulant child. Cutler is a petulant child. TO is a petulant child. Great, find another word, this one is driving me bat**** nuts.

Dukes
08-28-2009, 06:02 PM
You sound like a petulant child for making this thread.

WABronco
08-28-2009, 06:04 PM
I don't notice that at all.

And it's the perfect adjective to describe how Marshall is acting.

TheDave
08-28-2009, 06:05 PM
I used it once or twice to describe Cutler, and a bunch of the media types just latched on to it.

Sorry...


...and 100 post rule

steeledude
08-28-2009, 06:08 PM
I used it once or twice to describe Cutler, and a bunch of the media types just latched on to it.

Sorry...


...and 100 post rule

So as for your condescending "100 post rule" that people like you spout, is it because if people don't post here they must not have any idea of how to post on a message board? I mean, it's not like I haven't spent years at other message boards before I came here, but I guess the Orange Mane is special in how those who have posted 100 times are smarter than everyone else. That makes a lot of sense.

I'll be honest--I've only seen this whining pissy complaint on sporting websites. Are you an ex-jock? I'm just trying to get an idea for the type of people who like to use the word "petulant" a hundred times a post, and then complain about the 100 post rule.

steeledude
08-28-2009, 06:10 PM
I don't notice that at all.

And it's the perfect adjective to describe how Marshall is acting.

Look through the 13 page thread on Marshall's video, then look at the front page of the Denver Post, and then look at ESPN and SI's commentary. They all have it.

And perfect adjective? Sorry, adjectives are for 8th graders trying to pass the CSAP. Real writers don't use them. They bog down the writing and become distracting. Especially when a word goes into heavy circulation like this.

TheDave
08-28-2009, 06:13 PM
So as for your condescending "100 post rule" that people like you spout, is it because if people don't post here they must not have any idea of how to post on a message board? I mean, it's not like I haven't spent years at other message boards before I came here, but I guess the Orange Mane is special in how those who have posted 100 times are smarter than everyone else. That makes a lot of sense.

I'll be honest--I've only seen this whining pissy complaint on sporting websites. Are you an ex-jock? I'm just trying to get an idea for the type of people who like to use the word "petulant" a hundred times a post, and then complain about the 100 post rule.

Now your just acting petulant... ;)

Here's a hint: Stop taking yourself so serious and relax.

LonghornBronco
08-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Go back to your squeeler board Troll!

Hogan11
08-28-2009, 06:13 PM
What's wrong with expanding your vocabulary? Are they supposed to sound like lugheads or something?

Taco John
08-28-2009, 06:14 PM
petulance is the egg-head way of calling someone a pussy

WABronco
08-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Typically the 100 post line is used as a kind of catchall for when someone new to the board starts a ****ty thread, a ****ty annoying thread, or a ****ty annoying awful thread.

Seriously, complaining about word usage on the internets?

He is being petulant. Sorry.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/petulant (there gaiz)

steeledude
08-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Ya WA, I should have gone with my first inclination and complained about it over a round of beers at the strip club tonight. But strippers, as you probably know, are horrible adjective abusers. So yeah. What kind of pissy catch phrase can I use for when people who have been around awhile start annoying ass threads?

And I'm not new around here. I dropped my other account.

What's wrong with expanding your vocabulary? Are they supposed to sound like lugheads or something?

Expand your vocab and then use restraint.;)

2KBack
08-28-2009, 06:21 PM
if the word fits

WABronco
08-28-2009, 06:22 PM
I supplied the thesaurus link, the thread has served the OP's purpose (He's so witty!).

Petulant. Boom, one word--DONE.

EDIT-I would call him "disgruntled"....

steeledude
08-28-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm confused about your pronoun usage. Him = Marshall or me? Either way, disgruntled if you must use an adjective is much better. Not so flashy and trying to draw attention to yourself.

Marshall and Cutler were disgruntled. I'd also use the words "awesomely defiant" or "bad ass rebels" to describe them standing up to a suddenly idiotic front office.

theAPAOps5
08-28-2009, 06:36 PM
Are you upset that people are using a word too big for your 3rd grade vocabulary? You come across very defensive. Are you angry at yourself for your lack of intelligence?

Boobs McGee
08-28-2009, 06:40 PM
Look through the 13 page thread on Marshall's video, then look at the front page of the Denver Post, and then look at ESPN and SI's commentary. They all have it.

And perfect adjective? Sorry, adjectives are for 8th graders trying to pass the CSAP. Real writers don't use them. They bog down the writing and become distracting. Especially when a word goes into heavy circulation like this.

haha really? Last time I checked "real writers" use adjectives as they were intended, to describe things. Petulance just happens to be a wonderfully accurate description of the current situation.

Just because you're pissy that it's being used more than usual doesn't make it any less appropriate.

:thumbs:

Thank you for your concern though, the grammar police will almost CERTAINLY be knocking on your door with a shiny new badge!

theAPAOps5
08-28-2009, 06:40 PM
I also suggest everyone ignore this asshat. He is a past member here. Went by the name Casino Royal. He had been gone for a while but like a cold sore on a hooker he just won't go away.

steeledude
08-28-2009, 06:51 PM
I also suggest everyone ignore this asshat. He is a past member here. Went by the name Casino Royal. He had been gone for a while but like a cold sore on a hooker he just won't go away.

Actually went by SimonSteele--don't know who you are though. You seem like a bitter person, someone who must fight with those around him. My bitterness stems from dealing with people like you, and I suppose there are a number of faceless internet names I could attach your identity to as well, people who have bothered me over the years much in the way you do now. I could assume you are alts of all these people, because there could never be more than one boy out there who disagreed with me right?

But nonetheless, I am arguing writing with a group who seems to know nothing about writing.

Take a writing class. Actually that might be too much work. Take a lit class. Read something by Hemingway or Cormac McCarthy or Tim O'brien or John Steinbeck and tell me how many 10 dollar adjectives they use in their writing. Of course, what do they know about writing anyway?

I suppose arguing a point of contention on a message board doesn't make sense when it deviates from the norm. I should have seen that in how people reacted to players not towing the company line.

WABronco
08-28-2009, 07:01 PM
My Grandma always says I'm a great writer, and she was a teacher!

Literature=literature

Sports=not literature

Sorry.

I mean, if you want to read Woody Paige or Mark Kizsla, that's great. Just give me the news/stats/etc.

_Oro_
08-28-2009, 07:05 PM
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steeledude
08-28-2009, 07:05 PM
My Grandma always says I'm a great writer, and she was a teacher!

Literature=literature

Sports=not literature

Sorry.

That's the problem with teaching writing these days--I deal with it on a daily basis. Just because we could never live up to literary geniuses doesn't mean we shouldn't learn something from them. They are, after all, the best. And good sports writing, which is exactly what this is concerning, doesn't need the use of adjectives and adverbs in abundance.

I'm a writing teacher as well, but I don't think I'll evaluate your writing.

Popcorn Sutton
08-28-2009, 07:06 PM
It's like every sports caster and message board poster has to use this word now. I hear it about four times a week, and it is quickly becoming the new "classy" of the sports world.

Why do we latch onto these words? Do they make us sound smart? Marshall is a petulant child. Cutler is a petulant child. TO is a petulant child. Great, find another word, this one is driving me bat**** nuts.

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WABronco
08-28-2009, 07:09 PM
That's the problem with teaching writing these days--I deal with it on a daily basis. Just because we could never live up to literary geniuses doesn't mean we shouldn't learn something from them. They are, after all, the best. And good sports writing, which is exactly what this is concerning, doesn't need the use of adjectives and adverbs in abundance.

I'm a writing teacher as well, but I don't think I'll evaluate your writing.

Ya becuz i care bout how i right on here.

There's a difference though between "sports writing" and the news-print stuff you get on ESPN or rotoworld.

Boobs McGee
08-28-2009, 07:14 PM
Actually went by SimonSteele--don't know who you are though. You seem like a bitter person, someone who must fight with those around him. My bitterness stems from dealing with people like you, and I suppose there are a number of faceless internet names I could attach your identity to as well, people who have bothered me over the years much in the way you do now. I could assume you are alts of all these people, because there could never be more than one boy out there who disagreed with me right?

But nonetheless, I am arguing writing with a group who seems to know nothing about writing.

Take a writing class. Actually that might be too much work. Take a lit class. Read something by Hemingway or Cormac McCarthy or Tim O'brien or John Steinbeck and tell me how many 10 dollar adjectives they use in their writing. Of course, what do they know about writing anyway?

I suppose arguing a point of contention on a message board doesn't make sense when it deviates from the norm. I should have seen that in how people reacted to players not towing the company line.

Seriously dude, making blanket statements about serious writers is just plain retarded. ALL WRITERS use adjectives, because essentially, that's what writing is. A DESCRIPTION of some sort. Just because you don't deem certain portions of our language worthwhile, doesn't mean anyone else in the writing world agrees with you.







Steinbeck - The Pearl, page 85...."and the baby was weary and petulant, and Juana gave him her breast"



McCarthy - Suttree, page 410..."she raised her foot, a huge petulant child, and kicked the rearview mirror askew"



Hemingway - in his PERSONAL LETTERS IN RESPONSE TO FAULKNER CRITICISM, uses petulant 3 times in one short excerpt.



run along and troll somewhere else please

Boobs McGee
08-28-2009, 07:17 PM
That's the problem with teaching writing these days--I deal with it on a daily basis. Just because we could never live up to literary geniuses doesn't mean we shouldn't learn something from them. They are, after all, the best. And good sports writing, which is exactly what this is concerning, doesn't need the use of adjectives and adverbs in abundance.

I'm a writing teacher as well, but I don't think I'll evaluate your writing.

I call b.s.

And if it IS true, please let me know where you teach so that one day, when I have children, I don't send them to learn from a lexicon-racist.

clown

:welcome:

steeledude
08-28-2009, 07:33 PM
Seriously dude, making blanket statements about serious writers is just plain retarded. ALL WRITERS use adjectives, because essentially, that's what writing is. A DESCRIPTION of some sort. Just because you don't deem certain portions of our language worthwhile, doesn't mean anyone else in the writing world agrees with you.







Steinbeck - The Pearl, page 85...."and the baby was weary and petulant, and Juana gave him her breast"



McCarthy - Suttree, page 410..."she raised her foot, a huge petulant child, and kicked the rearview mirror askew"



Hemingway - in his PERSONAL LETTERS IN RESPONSE TO FAULKNER CRITICISM, uses petulant 3 times in one short excerpt.



run along and troll somewhere else please


And you fail to read the message only to cite rare occurrences in the world.

steeledude
08-28-2009, 07:34 PM
I call b.s.

And if it IS true, please let me know where you teach so that one day, when I have children, I don't send them to learn from a lexicon-racist.

clown

:welcome:

I'll PM you so I don't have to deal with the children raised by you.

steeledude
08-28-2009, 07:41 PM
A man's character may be learned from the adjectives which he habitually uses in conversation.
Mark Twain

I haven't changed much, over the years. I use less adjectives, now, and have a kinder heart, perhaps.
Angela Carter

I think my mistakes were kind of common - leaning on cliches and adjectives in the place of clear, vivid writing. But at least I knew how to spell, which seems to be a rarity these days.
Dick Schaap

As to the Adjective: When in doubt, strike it out.
Mark Twain

I notice that you use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English--it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don't let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in. When you catch an adjective, kill it. No, I don't mean utterly, but kill most of them--then the rest will be valuable. They weaken when they are close together. They give strength when they are wide apart. An adjective habit, or a wordy, diffuse, flowery habit, once fastened upon a person, is as hard to get rid of as any other vice.
- Letter to D. W. Bowser, 3/20/1880

Archer81
08-28-2009, 07:50 PM
A man's character may be learned from the adjectives which he habitually uses in conversation.
Mark Twain

I haven't changed much, over the years. I use less adjectives, now, and have a kinder heart, perhaps.
Angela Carter

I think my mistakes were kind of common - leaning on cliches and adjectives in the place of clear, vivid writing. But at least I knew how to spell, which seems to be a rarity these days.
Dick Schaap

As to the Adjective: When in doubt, strike it out.
Mark Twain

I notice that you use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English--it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don't let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in. When you catch an adjective, kill it. No, I don't mean utterly, but kill most of them--then the rest will be valuable. They weaken when they are close together. They give strength when they are wide apart. An adjective habit, or a wordy, diffuse, flowery habit, once fastened upon a person, is as hard to get rid of as any other vice.
- Letter to D. W. Bowser, 3/20/1880


http://tinyurl.com/3dzj8m


:Broncos:

Boobs McGee
08-28-2009, 08:01 PM
Actually went by SimonSteele--don't know who you are though. You seem like a bitter person, someone who must fight with those around him. My bitterness stems from dealing with people like you, and I suppose there are a number of faceless internet names I could attach your identity to as well, people who have bothered me over the years much in the way you do now. I could assume you are alts of all these people, because there could never be more than one boy out there who disagreed with me right?

But nonetheless, I am arguing writing with a group who seems to know nothing about writing.

Take a writing class. Actually that might be too much work. Take a lit class. Read something by Hemingway or Cormac McCarthy or Tim O'brien or John Steinbeck and tell me how many 10 dollar adjectives they use in their writing. Of course, what do they know about writing anyway?
I suppose arguing a point of contention on a message board doesn't make sense when it deviates from the norm. I should have seen that in how people reacted to players not towing the company line.


I read your whole blurb, but was pointing out the writers you specifically chose to prove your point. See, what I did there, was showed you specific examples where great writers used the very word you're so vehemently bashing (AND CONSEQUENTLY HAPPENS TO BE AN ADJECTIVE)

Listen, I get it. You're the guy who teaches writing classes, feels like he has the ultimate grasp on proper writing techniques, and essentially uses internet forums to try and red pen the writing of the masses (which in itself is quite laughable IMO, but whatever).


I really don't even know why I'm arguing with you here...essentially you hate adjectives.

I don't even know where to go from there.

So good luck in life I guess, and steer clear of fiction. and history books. poetry, autobiography's, essays, and most newspapers as well. Don't want you goin and gettin yourself an anneurism or anything

theAPAOps5
08-28-2009, 08:07 PM
Actually went by SimonSteele--don't know who you are though. You seem like a bitter person, someone who must fight with those around him. My bitterness stems from dealing with people like you, and I suppose there are a number of faceless internet names I could attach your identity to as well, people who have bothered me over the years much in the way you do now. I could assume you are alts of all these people, because there could never be more than one boy out there who disagreed with me right?

But nonetheless, I am arguing writing with a group who seems to know nothing about writing.

Take a writing class. Actually that might be too much work. Take a lit class. Read something by Hemingway or Cormac McCarthy or Tim O'brien or John Steinbeck and tell me how many 10 dollar adjectives they use in their writing. Of course, what do they know about writing anyway?

I suppose arguing a point of contention on a message board doesn't make sense when it deviates from the norm. I should have seen that in how people reacted to players not towing the company line.

Wow, what a joke. You are the definition of a loser. I have read everything ever written by Hemingway. Cormac McCarthy is a wannabe Hemingway and only cherished by losers who think they have a clue about writing when in actuality they haven't a clue.

Nice try though. You aren't fooling anyone.

Boobs McGee
08-28-2009, 08:09 PM
Wow, what a joke. You are the definition of a loser. I have read everything ever written by Hemingway. Cormac McCarthy is a wannabe Hemingway and only cherished by losers who think they have a clue about writing when in actuality they haven't a clue.

Nice try though. You aren't fooling anyone.

but but but...he's a WRITING teacher!

HOW DARE YOU

_Oro_
08-28-2009, 08:11 PM
I was fooled for a while... I was like yeah adjectives suck. And then I was like wait what. And then yeah I realized adjectives are not so bad. /thread

theAPAOps5
08-28-2009, 08:11 PM
but but but...he's a WRITING teacher!

HOW DARE YOU

Well you know what they say. Those who can't teach. He is obviously a crap writer who takes offense when people call out the crap he puts out. In other words he is a laughing stock in the writing community and a bitter never was.

Its why he teaches.

TheDave
08-28-2009, 08:13 PM
Well you know what they say. Those who can't teach. He is obviously a crap writer who takes offense when people call out the crap he puts out. In other words he is a laughing stock in the writing community and a bitter never was.

Its why he teaches.

Hey, hey, hey... I'll have you know I'm actually pretty good at chemistry. ;D

WABronco
08-28-2009, 08:13 PM
I was fooled for a while... I was like yeah adjectives suck. And then I was like wait what. And then yeah I realized adjectives are not so bad. /thread

Ya bro why you so mad at adjectives? Lolumad?

I'm sure he's shaking in his computer chair "I'm surrounded by illiterates what ever shall I do?"

_Oro_
08-28-2009, 08:17 PM
Hemingway is cool though. He stole the pisser out of the (probably at the time the only) bar down in Key West. Threw it in his front yard and used it as a watering bowl for his cats.

_Oro_
08-28-2009, 08:19 PM
His second or third wife took out all the ceiling fans in the house (keep in mind were talking sub tropics) and replaced them with chandeliers. /divorce

maher_tyler
08-28-2009, 08:19 PM
So as for your condescending "100 post rule" that people like you spout, is it because if people don't post here they must not have any idea of how to post on a message board? I mean, it's not like I haven't spent years at other message boards before I came here, but I guess the Orange Mane is special in how those who have posted 100 times are smarter than everyone else. That makes a lot of sense.

I'll be honest--I've only seen this whining pissy complaint on sporting websites. Are you an ex-jock? I'm just trying to get an idea for the type of people who like to use the word "petulant" a hundred times a post, and then complain about the 100 post rule.

:Whaaaa!:

worm
08-28-2009, 08:21 PM
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steeledude
08-28-2009, 08:24 PM
Ya bro why you so mad at adjectives? Lolumad?

I'm sure he's shaking in his computer chair "I'm surrounded by illiterates what ever shall I do?"

Nah, I'm surrounded by illiterates at a different time of the day. Right now I'm surrounded by walls reading the words of illiterates.

steeledude
08-28-2009, 08:26 PM
Wow, what a joke. You are the definition of a loser. I have read everything ever written by Hemingway. Cormac McCarthy is a wannabe Hemingway and only cherished by losers who think they have a clue about writing when in actuality they haven't a clue.

Nice try though. You aren't fooling anyone.

And that right there is a perfect example of a man with a tiny penis getting on the internet and raging against what he perceives to be the vision of the man banging his wife.

maher_tyler
08-28-2009, 08:35 PM
And that right there is a perfect example of a man with a tiny penis getting on the internet and raging against what he perceives to be the vision of the man banging his wife.

Hilarious!

Pseudofool
08-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Take a writing class. Actually that might be too much work. Take a lit class. Read something by Hemingway or Cormac McCarthy or Tim O'brien or John Steinbeck and tell me how many 10 dollar adjectives they use in their writing. Of course, what do they know about writing anyway?Meh. Petulance is hardly a ten-dollar adjective, your lack of familiarity with the word (and really it's being used as an idiom and not as some eggheaded way) can stem from any number of circumstances that don't have to do with the word being esoteric.

But to lecture others about literature on message board is assinine. Heck, Steinbeck and McCarthy are wordy mofos--while I appreciate the minimalism of Obrien (In the Lake of the Woods is one of the most unheralded novels of the last 20 years) and Hemmingway, I'm not sure how that applies here to a word that is couched in idiom not in a pendantic lexicon.

The minute you start whipping out reading lists or degrees or resumes on an internet board, you'll always find there's somehow who's read far more and is far more educated or experienced than you. So just shove it. You're education isn't very special, and you wear it awfully.

FWIW, the writing on an high-volume website (like OM) is far and away better than what most of academia can produce.

(And I'm not sure being a grad student in an MFA (or is it an MA?) program teaching freshman comp for a year or two gives you much authority here.)

theAPAOps5
08-28-2009, 08:49 PM
And that right there is a perfect example of a man with a tiny penis getting on the internet and raging against what he perceives to be the vision of the man banging his wife.

Nah actually not. You are making a fool of yourself we are just treating you like the puppet you are. We talk you dance. The joke is on you my friend.

WABronco
08-28-2009, 09:03 PM
Nah, I'm surrounded by illiterates at a different time of the day. Right now I'm surrounded by walls reading the words of illiterates.

hahaha I was going to crack about that but figured I'd spent enough time in here.