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Rohirrim
08-27-2009, 02:35 PM
Hard to imagine what the new world, the world of our children and grandchildren, will be like. I'm guessing that ten degrees higher pretty much kills any chance of continuing the kind of productivity we've gotten in the past from our greatest agricultural region. Interesting to hypothesize what will happen: More and more billions of people, less and less capacity to grow food. Not a pretty picture.
http://www.climatewizard.org/
ant1999e
08-28-2009, 12:40 PM
"There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon."
http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
If we all use mercury filled bulbs and are unemployed will it help? There are several issues as I see them :
1. is global warming happening and how fast?
2. If is is rising AND WE ARE CAUSING IT, can we do anything about it?
What makes me think global warming (or are we calling it "climate change" now?) is more faith than reason -- earth temps have been changing since the beginning -- and inconsistant data over the past 10 years is ignored by those who want government funding. Americans could literially all go back to the stone age, if other nations continue to polute in increasing numbers, and get at energy and extract it without restrictions and use it using almost no standards, it seems like a net loss for the planet. At least if we are drilling just off our shores, our companies are more concerned about a major oil spill. China is building coal plants at a fast clip and buying up mines and other resources around the world (like we were doing the turn of the last century) If we are weak, China India et all wont listen to anything we say about upping standards will they?
I know every faith needs an armagedon --but lets not hasten the economic one over a one degree temp change shall we?
Fedaykin
08-28-2009, 01:22 PM
All you have to do to see an example of a negative effect of GCC that will directly impact each and every person is to drive I-70 or up to Estes Park and look at the devastation wrought by the pine beetles, whose principal means of population control was cold winters which have become insufficiently cold to kill off enough of their eggs to keep their population in check.
Rohirrim
08-28-2009, 01:54 PM
And guess where all those millions of people are going to want to migrate to?
ant1999e
08-28-2009, 01:58 PM
And guess where all those millions of people are going to want to migrate to?
What people?
bronclvr
08-28-2009, 02:04 PM
All you have to do to see an example of a negative effect of GCC that will directly impact each and every person is to drive I-70 or up to Estes Park and look at the devastation wrought by the pine beetles, whose principal means of population control was cold winters which have become insufficiently cold to kill off enough of their eggs to keep their population in check.
Fedaykin,
You are certainly correct, however if we get over 110 degrees (kinda unlikely) it will also kill the Beetles. I was told that the Indians (pre-white men infestation!) would start fires in the Mountains they inhabited as they left, so that it would reforest and revegatate the areas-they say a good portion of the reason for the beetle infestation is old growth-
Hard to imagine what the new world, the world of our children and grandchildren, will be like. I'm guessing that ten degrees higher pretty much kills any chance of continuing the kind of productivity we've gotten in the past from our greatest agricultural region. Interesting to hypothesize what will happen: More and more billions of people, less and less capacity to grow food. Not a pretty picture.
http://www.climatewizard.org/
Have you ever seen Water World -- I think you would get some good planning tips from this documentary -- and if you have enough faith, you could pray to the Druid fish God for gills. Be Prepared!!!
Fedaykin,
You are certainly correct, however if we get over 110 degrees (kinda unlikely) it will also kill the Beetles. I was told that the Indians (pre-white men infestation!) would start fires in the Mountains they inhabited as they left, so that it would reforest and revegatate the areas-they say a good portion of the reason for the beetle infestation is old growth-
or if its too cold:
A cold snap in early 2008 was hoped to have dropped the pine beetle population to more manageable levels. [8] However, preliminary results from the summer of 2008 indicate that the cold winter was less successful at killing pine beetle than predicted.
Rohirrim
08-28-2009, 08:14 PM
Have you ever seen Water World -- I think you would get some good planning tips from this documentary -- and if you have enough faith, you could pray to the Druid fish God for gills. Be Prepared!!!
What a silly little person. If only you were funny.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-28-2009, 09:19 PM
Hard to imagine what the new world, the world of our children and grandchildren, will be like. I'm guessing that ten degrees higher pretty much kills any chance of continuing the kind of productivity we've gotten in the past from our greatest agricultural region. Interesting to hypothesize what will happen: More and more billions of people, less and less capacity to grow food. Not a pretty picture.
http://www.climatewizard.org/
And the irony is that those same corn belt states have overwhelmingly supported the same bought-and-paid-for-by-Big Pollution republican crooks whose policies have done nothing but exacerbate the climate change problem.