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Bronx33
08-25-2009, 03:42 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/08/whole_foods_cri.html


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8322658&page=1
The radical left plan to boycott whole food because owner CEO john mackey wrote an artical writing out alternatives to healthcare and now the radical left goes over the edge and yells boycott. WTF? why? because it's not obamas spit polished turd? really is this even remotely fair mackey is only a business owner that provides health insurance to it's employees he might have a few ideas. But no lets boycott the guy for having an idea and punish it's employees that may or may not have voted for obama. And yes i picked the Cambridge artical for a reason it seems they take anything anti obama personal for some reason :oyvey:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119099537379#

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/13-0

ect ect ect........just pathetic.

kappys
08-25-2009, 03:51 PM
Meh, I think if someone disagrees with those running a company is fully within their rights to organize a boycott. Doesn't stop you from shopping there so why the big fuss?

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 03:57 PM
Meh, I think if someone disagrees with those running a company is fully within their rights to organize a boycott. Doesn't stop you from shopping there so why the big fuss?


The point is they are simply trying to boycott a person for stating some alternatives to heathcare that really doesn't make sense to me and it's kinda chickenshyt IMO.

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Meh, I think if someone disagrees with those running a company is fully within their rights to organize a boycott. Doesn't stop you from shopping there so why the big fuss?


OK iam making a facebook/blog on this statement ( by you) stating you don't like freedom of speech and asking your boss to take it out of your paycheck ( that make sense?) LOL

peacepipe
08-25-2009, 04:04 PM
It surprises me that CEO John Mackey could be this stupid. Whole foods is a place that makes it's money selling natural & organic foods. Which side of the political aisle did he think his patrons sat in? A great majority of the people I know that spend the extra money to shop at whole foods(which is more expensive to shop at) are very left leaning.

Fedaykin
08-25-2009, 04:14 PM
There are much better reasons to Boycott Whole foods, such as the fact that they defraud their customers by selling them things like homeopathic "medicine".

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 04:18 PM
It surprises me that CEO John Mackey could be this stupid. Whole foods is a place that makes it's money selling natural & organic foods. Which side of the political aisle did he think his patrons sat in? A great majority of the people I know that spend the extra money to shop at whole foods(which is more expensive to shop at) are very left leaning.


God forbid someone remotely qualified give his two cents publically obvisouly the boycotters have obama blinders on and iam also guessing mackey assumed his patrons were not healthy mindless tools but sadly he was wrong.

Rohirrim
08-25-2009, 04:21 PM
I miss the days when there was competition with stores like Wild Oats, Alfalfas, Vitamin Cottage, etc. Now you've got Whole Foods... period. No wonder this guy feels like he doesn't have to worry about pissing off his customers. He knows there is no other show in town.

cutthemdown
08-25-2009, 04:23 PM
Since when has politics ever been fair?

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 04:23 PM
This pathetic boycott won't amount to anything anyways but what got my attention was somebody would even take the time to even do this is shallow,selfish and narrowminded on all levels and the only people it really hurts is it's employees some of which are obama supporting Democrats.

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 04:25 PM
Since when has politics ever been fair?


Ask the unemployed from the car dealerships obamas wonder kid axed ( and quit changing the subject)

peacepipe
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
God forbid someone remotely qualified give his two cents publically obvisouly the boycotters have obama blinders on and iam also guessing mackey assumed his patrons were not healthy mindless tools but sadly he was wrong.

Oh please,kind of like the mindless tools at townhall meetings booing & shouting. I have no issue with him speaking his mind,everyone is entitled to put their foot in their mouth at least once. I'm just saying noone should get upset at the consequences when they say something stupid. You shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you.

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
I miss the days when there was competition with stores like Wild Oats, Alfalfas, Vitamin Cottage, etc. Now you've got Whole Foods... period. No wonder this guy feels like he doesn't have to worry about pissing off his customers. He knows there is no other show in town.


Stay on the subject :thumbs: and those outlets are still in business they just are not as good at it i guess. :~ohyah!:

Bronx33
08-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Oh please,kind of like the mindless tools at townhall meetings booing & shouting. I have no issue with him speaking his mind,everyone is entitled to put their foot in their mouth at least once. I'm just saying noone should get upset at the consequences when they say something stupid. You shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you.


I stopped reading after this, stay on the subject ( your part of the problem) sunshine.

footstepsfrom#27
08-25-2009, 05:39 PM
The radical left plan to boycott whole food because owner CEO john mackey wrote an artical writing out alternatives to healthcare and now the radical left goes over the edge and yells boycott.
When you say, "the radical left"...I assumed you meant some kind of national campaign led by democrats, major political allies of the DNC and the usual power players.

It turns out, at least according to everything you posted and a few other things I read...that this boils down to couple of union organizations in Massachusetts and another in Ohio. The MA branch of "Jobs with Justice" is a state branch of a larger national organization and the Ohio organization called "Single Payer Action" is a small non profit with a measley $22,000 in revenue last year. A couple of other stories note that up to "half a dozen" similar groups are on board and a Facebook site now lists 22,000 people on board. This is not a major boycot, despite the publicity. Most of the quotes in those stories are from individual shoppers, not organizational leaders, which is usually a tipoff to a pretty haphazzard initiative, not a major organizational push.

Since I consult with NPO's on a regular basis, I'm going to guess this is probably a nifty branding opportunity somebody dreamed up, a shot at gaining some national notice. As an effective boycot...it's probably more or less meaningless. In terms of PR value it probably has some value in profiling these groups to their doner base...but that's about it.

Let's try to be a little more truthful shall we? Citing a couple of locally generated boycott efforts as "the radical left", implying the collective efforts of the entire democratic party, which is clearly what you intended to do...is intellectually dishonest.

footstepsfrom#27
08-25-2009, 05:57 PM
Whole Foods Market BTW...is an excellent company. Contrary to some of the uninformed bloggers I'm reading, they have an outstanding track record of corporate social responsibility. I've shopped at the one here for several years and wouldn't stop over something like this.

Dukes
08-25-2009, 06:51 PM
I wonder what Whole foods profit margin is compared to other grocery stores. Anyone know?

footstepsfrom#27
08-25-2009, 07:00 PM
I wonder what Whole foods profit margin is over other grocery stores. Anyone know?
2006 Data: Whole Foods 35%, Safeway 28.8%, Kroger 23.7%...Avg profit margin over the last 4 years is 34.8%

Dukes
08-25-2009, 07:09 PM
2006 Data: Whole Foods 35%, Safeway 28.8%, Kroger 23.7%...Avg profit margin over the last 4 years is 34.8%

Interesting, I thought grocery stores margins were lower.

footstepsfrom#27
08-25-2009, 07:17 PM
Interesting, I thought grocery stores margins were lower.
Whole Foods caters to customers who like not only organics, but value a sustainability corporate ethic. They avoid things like cheap produce that uses insecticides, hormone growth milk, etc...they also carry a lot of high end stuff the other stores don't.

Dukes
08-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Whole Foods caters to customers who like not only organics, but value a sustainability corporate ethic. They avoid things like cheap produce that uses insecticides, hormone growth milk, etc...they also carry a lot of high end stuff the other stores don't.

I'm aware of all that. I'm not bashing them in any way. Just curious is all.

Spider
08-26-2009, 01:01 AM
Dixie chicks anyone ???

kappys
08-26-2009, 07:02 AM
OK iam making a facebook/blog on this statement ( by you) stating you don't like freedom of speech and asking your boss to take it out of your paycheck ( that make sense?) LOL

Boycotts are protected free speech. I'm not saying the CEO doesn't have the right to say what he wants, but his customers also have a right to refuse to shop at his store and to make public what he has put into the public realm. If they can convince other shoppers that such idas are reprehensible then they too can stop shopping there. Given what he actually said I think its pretty clear why no one is actualyl paying attention to this boycott

BroncsRule
08-27-2009, 10:16 PM
Boycotts are protected free speech - and should be. But they are also notoriously ineffective.

So have a hoot - boycott away, if it makes you feel better.